Guest guest Posted September 17, 2001 Report Share Posted September 17, 2001 Om Gurave Namah -------------------------- Dear Ron, That is another excellent example. 'Radhikaye shreyam namah'is a nice mantra I learnt for overcoming the weakness if any associated with the Ista related to Venus. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - <ron <vedic astrology> Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:57 PM [vedic astrology] Vipareeta Raja Yoga > Aum Krishna Guru > > Respected Sanjay Ji, > > First of all, I thank you very much for the detailed lesson on Vipareeta Raja Yoga. > > Further to your lessons and assignments, I can offer my own chart for group study to everyone at this list [bTW; I already know what will happen]. > > My chart shows a strong Vipareeta Raja Yoga and therefore a good example. > > For all those interested [especially students], note the following: > > 1) Placement of Venus > > 2) Venus in Navamsa > > 3) Venus as the 12th lord from Karakamsa > > 4) Vargottama AtmaKaraka and its relation to Ketu [in both Rasi and Navamsa]. > > > 5) Plot Moola Dasa [not included] and see what the effects were, are, and will be [Current Moola Dasa is Mercury]. > > Note: The chart is already rectified with correct Shastyamsa. > > In any case, as Sanjay Ji and others have pointed out, it should be remembered that Vipareeta Raja Yoga causes distress to others. > > For someone who is on a spiritual path [notice Vargottama AtmaKaraka and its relation to Ketu], Vipareeta Raja Yoga though giving material gains; actually means obstacles [especially for Moksha goals]. > > Once again thanks for the detailed lessons and deeply appreciate your point by point analysis of all possibilities mentioned in the lesson. > > Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you [all] take care too. > > Aum Namo Narayana > > With respect and kind regards, > > Yours Humbly, > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 Om Krishna Guru ---------------- Respected Sanjay Ji, Thank you very much for the kind blessings and helpful mantra you gave me. I deeply appreciate it. And thank you for endorsing that my chart is an excellent example... ....I know and am aware about most implications. Therefore; I meditate a lot and avoid using [and will avoid using] Vipareeta Raja Yoga [especially when it triggers strongly in Venus Moola Dasa]. The auspicious placements of Jupiter and Moon in my chart should be more than adequate for me to take care of my family responsibilities. After completion of which, I sincerely desire that I have the courage and dedication to take Samadhi [i think you already saw that in my chart :-) ]. Further to that; I will immediately correct the Ishta weakness by the mantra given by you. Many thanks again. As it is... I already have to meditate on the struggle between Rahu and Sun. Especially since both are in my Lagna [Rasi] and Sun is my Atma Karaka. Current Vimsottari [Rahu/Sun/Rahu] is the most challenging :-) In any case... Thanks again and I am more than adamant that you will have lot more years. Therefore, I would not worry about your current Shoola Dasa :-) With that... Please give my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you take care too. Om Namo Narayana Kind regards, Ron vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@v...> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > -------------------------- > Dear Ron, > That is another excellent example. 'Radhikaye shreyam namah'is a nice mantra > I learnt for overcoming the weakness if any associated with the Ista related > to Venus. > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Om Krishna Guru --------------- Dear Doug, Pranaam: You are most welcome :-) OK...while we wait for the respected Guruji(s) and experts to shed some light on this issue [e.g. Can a 12th lord in 12th house form VRY?]...we could try to solve the puzzle: [As usual, let us use point format as I am more comfortable with that] 1) Dhira seems to suggest that the lord of 12th house in 12th forms a VRY [Vipareeta Raja Yoga]. 2) Now instead of using Dhira's chart, let us use natural zodiacs. 3) Suppose, if the rising [ascendant] is Virgo, and Sun is placed in 12th in Leo. 4) In above case, I will agree with you that this does *not* form a VRY. Because; a lord would hardly destroy his/her own house. 5) Similar would be the case if say rising [ascendant] was Leo and Moon was in 12th in Cancer. 6) But what if say rising [ascendant] was Cancer with Mercury in 12th [Gemini]? 7) Agreed that Mercury would not destroy its own house [Gemini], but would the significance of Virgo [3rd house from ascendant and also ruled by Mercury] suffer? There... Seems we have some sort of controversy here [or may be not]. P.s.: We could use any planet in point 6--above-- [except Sun, Moon who only own one sign each]. It would get even more complicated [in my opinion] if taking examples of Nodes. Anyway...hope the above will lead us to some answers and perhaps guidance and or discussions by respected Guruji(s) and experts. Many thanks in advance. In the meantime... Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you [all] take care too. Om Namo Narayana Kind regards and best wishes, Ron vedic astrology, "Doug Riemer" <vedic@k...> wrote: > Thanks Ron. > > My specific point was that a single planet Viparita can be formed >if a dusthana lord is in ANOTHER dusthana house - not the same >house. > > I agree that double of triple dusthana lords involved makes the >yoga strong but that it is also fully operative when a dusthana lord >is placed in another dusthana. I also believe that the Viparita >yoga is more powerful than even the best raja yogas - perhaps to >offset the suffering that also results from the planet(s) >destruction. > > Although referencing ones own chart is not the best measure, I'm > Libra rising with Venus in the 12th at 28 degrees, and 6th ruler > Jupiter in the 3rd aspected by 10th ruler Moon from the 9th. When I > ran Jupiter/Venus Dasa in 1975-77, I got an amazingly great job. > > I also find that Viparita effects are not temporary as Sanjay Rath's > article seems to indicate. That is, the Viparita rise brings the > person to a higher level of achievement from which the person > continues to operate. Thus, after I got the great job, I later > formed my own company and later on was recognized as an expert and > became a consultant. > > In any event, the question remains whether a dusthana lord in its own > house forms a Viparita, and if so, is this a weak form of it? > > thanks, > > doug riemer > > > > vedic astrology, ron@i... wrote: > > Om Krishna Guru > > --------------- > > > > Dear Doug and friends, > > > > Doug... > > > > I agree with your assessment. > > > > While I am not aware about any other variation(s); one could say > that > > a single planet forming a VRY (Vipareeta Raja Yoga), as in 12th > lord > > in 12th house, or 8th lord in 12th house, or whatever combination, > is > > a very weak form of VRY. > > > > One should have *at least* two lords of dusthana involved in VRY > for > > the VRY to take significance [someone please correct me on this if > I > > am wrong, many thanks in advance]. > > > > Of course... > > > > When all three lords of dusthana(s) [6th house, 8th house, and 12th > > house] form a VRY, then the VRY is very strong. > > > > The only other variation that would come to my mind would be the > > involvement of 3rd house lord in VRY [though I am not quite sure of > > this one]. > > > > Due to several factors, 3rd house is *also* considered as a > dusthana. > > > > Perhaps... > > > > The respected Guruji(s) and experts at this list may throw some > more > > light on this topic. Many thanks in advance. > > > > In the meantime... > > > > Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you > > [all] take care too. > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > Kind regards and best wishes, > > > > Ron > > > > vedic astrology, "Doug Riemer" <vedic@k...> wrote: > > > Hello Dhira, > > > > > > Your viparita raja yoga of having the 12th lord in the 12th is > > > interesting. > > > > > > In the several interpretations of this yoga I've seen, the yoga > is > > > formed when the rulers of dusthana's are in full connection, or > the > > > ruler of a dusthana is placed in another dusthana. By "full > > > connection" I mean conjunction, mutual aspect or exhange of > signs. > > I > > > checked Sanjay Rath's Viparita Yoga article and didn't see the > yoga > > > being formed as you have it. > > > > > > This is not a criticism but an inquiry as to this variation of > the > > > viparita Raja Yoga. > > > > > > Do you or anyone else know about this? > > > > > > doug riemer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Om Krishna Guru --------------- Dear Mr. H. R. Rao, Pranaam: Yes, it is a strong Vipareeta Raja Yoga *in my opinion*. Reason: As I mentioned in my earlier post... I also consider 3rd house as Dusthana and I believe so does Sanjay Ji. In your case, since all the other Dusthana lords [Mercury, Sun, and Jupiter] are in your 3rd house, well, it is a strong VRY. However...I could be wrong about some points I emphasized in previous and this post [namely 3rd house, own house, etc]. So; let us see what respected Guruji(s) and experts have to say. I am merely a humble shishya. In the meantime... Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you take care too. Om Namo Narayana Kind regards and best wishes, Ron vedic astrology, ramadasrao@h... wrote: > Om Namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya > Namaste Ron, > When the discussion about Viparreta Raja Yoga is going on,Just I > remembered my case.My Lagna is Makara and in my 3rd house a > combination of 6th Lord Mercury,8th Lord Sun and 12th Lord Jupiter > are there and aspected by Lagna lord Saturn.During Jupiter Dasa nad > Venus Sub-period I went abroad unpectedly for higher remunerations > and still I am working abroad and getting higher remunerations.So is > it not the effect of Vipareetha Raja Yoga ? > Please shed light on this. > Thanks, > H.R.Rao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Dear Ron, I really appreciate this dialogue. In regard to your cancer Asc with Merc in the 12th: 1. This would not be a Viparita unless you consider the 3rd a malefic and thus would qualify. I personally think the 3rd as a mild malefic can make a viparita. So, I agree this to be a Viparita. 2. Yes, I do believe the 3rd is injured because even though its ruler Merc is in its own house in the 12th, this "own house" signification cannot completely negate 12th house losses. The underlying logic here is that house placement is more important than sign placement. Yes, lets hope someone with greater knowledge and experience will grace us with his/her knowledge - and be very clear, for I, at least, am a thick headed Westerner who understands only when the information is put forward in simple terms. doug riemer vedic astrology, ron@i... wrote: > Om Krishna Guru > --------------- > > Dear Doug, Pranaam: > > You are most welcome :-) > > OK...while we wait for the respected Guruji(s) and experts to shed > some light on this issue [e.g. Can a 12th lord in 12th house form > VRY?]...we could try to solve the puzzle: > > [As usual, let us use point format as I am more comfortable with > that] > > 1) Dhira seems to suggest that the lord of 12th house in 12th forms a > VRY [Vipareeta Raja Yoga]. > > 2) Now instead of using Dhira's chart, let us use natural zodiacs. > > 3) Suppose, if the rising [ascendant] is Virgo, and Sun is placed in > 12th in Leo. > > 4) In above case, I will agree with you that this does *not* form a > VRY. Because; a lord would hardly destroy his/her own house. > > 5) Similar would be the case if say rising [ascendant] was Leo and > Moon was in 12th in Cancer. > > 6) But what if say rising [ascendant] was Cancer with Mercury in 12th > [Gemini]? > > 7) Agreed that Mercury would not destroy its own house [Gemini], but > would the significance of Virgo [3rd house from ascendant and also > ruled by Mercury] suffer? > > There... > > Seems we have some sort of controversy here [or may be not]. > > P.s.: We could use any planet in point 6--above-- [except Sun, Moon > who only own one sign each]. > > It would get even more complicated [in my opinion] if taking examples > of Nodes. > > Anyway...hope the above will lead us to some answers and perhaps > guidance and or discussions by respected Guruji(s) and experts. Many > thanks in advance. > > In the meantime... > > Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you > [all] take care too. > > Om Namo Narayana > > Kind regards and best wishes, > > Ron > > > vedic astrology, "Doug Riemer" <vedic@k...> wrote: > > Thanks Ron. > > > > My specific point was that a single planet Viparita can be formed > >if a dusthana lord is in ANOTHER dusthana house - not the same > >house. > > > > I agree that double of triple dusthana lords involved makes the > >yoga strong but that it is also fully operative when a dusthana lord > >is placed in another dusthana. I also believe that the Viparita > >yoga is more powerful than even the best raja yogas - perhaps to > >offset the suffering that also results from the planet(s) > >destruction. > > > > Although referencing ones own chart is not the best measure, I'm > > Libra rising with Venus in the 12th at 28 degrees, and 6th ruler > > Jupiter in the 3rd aspected by 10th ruler Moon from the 9th. When > I > > ran Jupiter/Venus Dasa in 1975-77, I got an amazingly great job. > > > > I also find that Viparita effects are not temporary as Sanjay > Rath's > > article seems to indicate. That is, the Viparita rise brings the > > person to a higher level of achievement from which the person > > continues to operate. Thus, after I got the great job, I later > > formed my own company and later on was recognized as an expert and > > became a consultant. > > > > In any event, the question remains whether a dusthana lord in its > own > > house forms a Viparita, and if so, is this a weak form of it? > > > > thanks, > > > > doug riemer > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, ron@i... wrote: > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > --------------- > > > > > > Dear Doug and friends, > > > > > > Doug... > > > > > > I agree with your assessment. > > > > > > While I am not aware about any other variation(s); one could say > > that > > > a single planet forming a VRY (Vipareeta Raja Yoga), as in 12th > > lord > > > in 12th house, or 8th lord in 12th house, or whatever > combination, > > is > > > a very weak form of VRY. > > > > > > One should have *at least* two lords of dusthana involved in VRY > > for > > > the VRY to take significance [someone please correct me on this > if > > I > > > am wrong, many thanks in advance]. > > > > > > Of course... > > > > > > When all three lords of dusthana(s) [6th house, 8th house, and > 12th > > > house] form a VRY, then the VRY is very strong. > > > > > > The only other variation that would come to my mind would be the > > > involvement of 3rd house lord in VRY [though I am not quite sure > of > > > this one]. > > > > > > Due to several factors, 3rd house is *also* considered as a > > dusthana. > > > > > > Perhaps... > > > > > > The respected Guruji(s) and experts at this list may throw some > > more > > > light on this topic. Many thanks in advance. > > > > > > In the meantime... > > > > > > Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you > > > [all] take care too. > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > > > Kind regards and best wishes, > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Doug Riemer" <vedic@k...> wrote: > > > > Hello Dhira, > > > > > > > > Your viparita raja yoga of having the 12th lord in the 12th is > > > > interesting. > > > > > > > > In the several interpretations of this yoga I've seen, the yoga > > is > > > > formed when the rulers of dusthana's are in full connection, or > > the > > > > ruler of a dusthana is placed in another dusthana. By "full > > > > connection" I mean conjunction, mutual aspect or exhange of > > signs. > > > I > > > > checked Sanjay Rath's Viparita Yoga article and didn't see the > > yoga > > > > being formed as you have it. > > > > > > > > This is not a criticism but an inquiry as to this variation of > > the > > > > viparita Raja Yoga. > > > > > > > > Do you or anyone else know about this? > > > > > > > > doug riemer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Mr. Rao's example a little confusing - for the Viparita is formed when malefic lords join, and they do in triplicate here. Whether the Viparita is stronger because it is in the 3rd house brings up the same question about the 3rd being a dusthana. Well, at least we've put this on the table rather completely for someone to pick up. doug riemer vedic astrology, ron@i... wrote: > Om Krishna Guru > --------------- > > Dear Mr. H. R. Rao, Pranaam: > > Yes, it is a strong Vipareeta Raja Yoga *in my opinion*. > > Reason: > > As I mentioned in my earlier post... > > I also consider 3rd house as Dusthana and I believe so does Sanjay > Ji. > > In your case, since all the other Dusthana lords [Mercury, Sun, and > Jupiter] are in your 3rd house, well, it is a strong VRY. > > However...I could be wrong about some points I emphasized in previous > and this post [namely 3rd house, own house, etc]. > > So; let us see what respected Guruji(s) and experts have to say. I am > merely a humble shishya. > > In the meantime... > > Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you > take care too. > > Om Namo Narayana > > Kind regards and best wishes, > > Ron > > vedic astrology, ramadasrao@h... wrote: > > Om Namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya > > Namaste Ron, > > When the discussion about Viparreta Raja Yoga is going on,Just I > > remembered my case.My Lagna is Makara and in my 3rd house a > > combination of 6th Lord Mercury,8th Lord Sun and 12th Lord Jupiter > > are there and aspected by Lagna lord Saturn.During Jupiter Dasa nad > > Venus Sub-period I went abroad unpectedly for higher remunerations > > and still I am working abroad and getting higher remunerations.So > is > > it not the effect of Vipareetha Raja Yoga ? > > Please shed light on this. > > Thanks, > > H.R.Rao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 I may be mistaken here, but I was under the impression that the Viparita yoga is formed due to the fall of functional malefics in the chart, rendering them powerless. Would this apply to a malefic in own house etc? e.g. 6th ruler in the 6th or 12th ruler in the 12th etc? Nimmi - "Doug Riemer" <vedic <vedic astrology> Sunday, October 07, 2001 9:05 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Vipareeta Raja Yoga > > Mr. Rao's example a little confusing - for the Viparita is formed > when malefic lords join, and they do in triplicate here. > > Whether the Viparita is stronger because it is in the 3rd house > brings up the same question about the 3rd being a dusthana. > > Well, at least we've put this on the table rather completely for > someone to pick up. > > doug riemer > > > vedic astrology, ron@i... wrote: > > Om Krishna Guru > > --------------- > > > > Dear Mr. H. R. Rao, Pranaam: > > > > Yes, it is a strong Vipareeta Raja Yoga *in my opinion*. > > > > Reason: > > > > As I mentioned in my earlier post... > > > > I also consider 3rd house as Dusthana and I believe so does Sanjay > > Ji. > > > > In your case, since all the other Dusthana lords [Mercury, Sun, and > > Jupiter] are in your 3rd house, well, it is a strong VRY. > > > > However...I could be wrong about some points I emphasized in > previous > > and this post [namely 3rd house, own house, etc]. > > > > So; let us see what respected Guruji(s) and experts have to say. I > am > > merely a humble shishya. > > > > In the meantime... > > > > Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you > > take care too. > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > Kind regards and best wishes, > > > > Ron > > > > vedic astrology, ramadasrao@h... wrote: > > > Om Namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya > > > Namaste Ron, > > > When the discussion about Viparreta Raja Yoga is going on,Just I > > > remembered my case.My Lagna is Makara and in my 3rd house a > > > combination of 6th Lord Mercury,8th Lord Sun and 12th Lord > Jupiter > > > are there and aspected by Lagna lord Saturn.During Jupiter Dasa > nad > > > Venus Sub-period I went abroad unpectedly for higher > remunerations > > > and still I am working abroad and getting higher remunerations.So > > is > > > it not the effect of Vipareetha Raja Yoga ? > > > Please shed light on this. > > > Thanks, > > > H.R.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 Hare Rama Krishna! Dear Nimmi Vipareeta Rajayoga cannot form when the dusthanal lords are in their own houses. One of the premise of the VRY is that the dusthana lords should be weakly placed with some other dusthana lords in some dusthana. Even if the dusthana lords are not associated with some other dusthana lord, but weakly placed in some other dusthana would constitute VRY, with some lesser extent... Regards Sarajit - "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660 <vedic astrology> Monday, October 08, 2001 2:41 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Vipareeta Raja Yoga > I may be mistaken here, but I was under the impression that the Viparita > yoga is formed due to the fall of functional malefics in the chart, > rendering them powerless. > > Would this apply to a malefic in own house etc? e.g. 6th ruler in the 6th or > 12th ruler in the 12th etc? > > Nimmi > - > "Doug Riemer" <vedic > <vedic astrology> > Sunday, October 07, 2001 9:05 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Vipareeta Raja Yoga > > > > > > Mr. Rao's example a little confusing - for the Viparita is formed > > when malefic lords join, and they do in triplicate here. > > > > Whether the Viparita is stronger because it is in the 3rd house > > brings up the same question about the 3rd being a dusthana. > > > > Well, at least we've put this on the table rather completely for > > someone to pick up. > > > > doug riemer > > > > > > vedic astrology, ron@i... wrote: > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > --------------- > > > > > > Dear Mr. H. R. Rao, Pranaam: > > > > > > Yes, it is a strong Vipareeta Raja Yoga *in my opinion*. > > > > > > Reason: > > > > > > As I mentioned in my earlier post... > > > > > > I also consider 3rd house as Dusthana and I believe so does Sanjay > > > Ji. > > > > > > In your case, since all the other Dusthana lords [Mercury, Sun, and > > > Jupiter] are in your 3rd house, well, it is a strong VRY. > > > > > > However...I could be wrong about some points I emphasized in > > previous > > > and this post [namely 3rd house, own house, etc]. > > > > > > So; let us see what respected Guruji(s) and experts have to say. I > > am > > > merely a humble shishya. > > > > > > In the meantime... > > > > > > Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you > > > take care too. > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > > > Kind regards and best wishes, > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > vedic astrology, ramadasrao@h... wrote: > > > > Om Namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya > > > > Namaste Ron, > > > > When the discussion about Viparreta Raja Yoga is going on,Just I > > > > remembered my case.My Lagna is Makara and in my 3rd house a > > > > combination of 6th Lord Mercury,8th Lord Sun and 12th Lord > > Jupiter > > > > are there and aspected by Lagna lord Saturn.During Jupiter Dasa > > nad > > > > Venus Sub-period I went abroad unpectedly for higher > > remunerations > > > > and still I am working abroad and getting higher remunerations.So > > > is > > > > it not the effect of Vipareetha Raja Yoga ? > > > > Please shed light on this. > > > > Thanks, > > > > H.R.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 dear nimmi and sarajit infact the placement of 6th lord,8th lord and 12th lord in their own houses causes the harsha, sarala and vimala yogas. regards partha sarathy --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna! > Dear Nimmi > > Vipareeta Rajayoga cannot form when the dusthanal > lords are in their own > houses. One of the premise of the VRY is that the > dusthana lords should be > weakly placed with some other dusthana lords in some > dusthana. Even if the > dusthana lords are not associated with some other > dusthana lord, but weakly > placed in some other dusthana would constitute VRY, > with some lesser > extent... > > Regards > Sarajit > > - > "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660 > <vedic astrology> > Monday, October 08, 2001 2:41 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Vipareeta Raja > Yoga > > > > I may be mistaken here, but I was under the > impression that the Viparita > > yoga is formed due to the fall of functional > malefics in the chart, > > rendering them powerless. > > > > Would this apply to a malefic in own house etc? > e.g. 6th ruler in the 6th > or > > 12th ruler in the 12th etc? > > > > Nimmi > > - > > "Doug Riemer" <vedic > > <vedic astrology> > > Sunday, October 07, 2001 9:05 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Vipareeta Raja Yoga > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Rao's example a little confusing - for the > Viparita is formed > > > when malefic lords join, and they do in > triplicate here. > > > > > > Whether the Viparita is stronger because it is > in the 3rd house > > > brings up the same question about the 3rd being > a dusthana. > > > > > > Well, at least we've put this on the table > rather completely for > > > someone to pick up. > > > > > > doug riemer > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, ron@i... wrote: > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > --------------- > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. H. R. Rao, Pranaam: > > > > > > > > Yes, it is a strong Vipareeta Raja Yoga *in my > opinion*. > > > > > > > > Reason: > > > > > > > > As I mentioned in my earlier post... > > > > > > > > I also consider 3rd house as Dusthana and I > believe so does Sanjay > > > > Ji. > > > > > > > > In your case, since all the other Dusthana > lords [Mercury, Sun, and > > > > Jupiter] are in your 3rd house, well, it is a > strong VRY. > > > > > > > > However...I could be wrong about some points I > emphasized in > > > previous > > > > and this post [namely 3rd house, own house, > etc]. > > > > > > > > So; let us see what respected Guruji(s) and > experts have to say. I > > > am > > > > merely a humble shishya. > > > > > > > > In the meantime... > > > > > > > > Please convey my best regards to all your > loved ones ever and you > > > > take care too. > > > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > > > > > Kind regards and best wishes, > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, ramadasrao@h... > wrote: > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya > > > > > Namaste Ron, > > > > > When the discussion about Viparreta Raja > Yoga is going on,Just I > > > > > remembered my case.My Lagna is Makara and in > my 3rd house a > > > > > combination of 6th Lord Mercury,8th Lord Sun > and 12th Lord > > > Jupiter > > > > > are there and aspected by Lagna lord > Saturn.During Jupiter Dasa > > > nad > > > > > Venus Sub-period I went abroad unpectedly > for higher > > > remunerations > > > > > and still I am working abroad and getting > higher remunerations.So > > > > is > > > > > it not the effect of Vipareetha Raja Yoga ? > > > > > Please shed light on this. > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > H.R.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > NEW from GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 Mmm, well, my partner has venus as 8th lord in the 6th but exalted and vargottama, though aspected by an exalted and vargottama 6th ruler jupiter! 12th ruler mercury is in the 8th. As all 4 quadrants are occupied and rahu is in the 3rd house, I remember that I need to use Ashtotri dasa and not Vimshottri dasa. I have not timed that yet. Regards, Nimmi Ragavan - "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp <vedic astrology> Monday, October 08, 2001 1:05 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Vipareeta Raja Yoga > > Hare Rama Krishna! > Dear Nimmi > > Vipareeta Rajayoga cannot form when the dusthanal lords are in their own > houses. One of the premise of the VRY is that the dusthana lords should be > weakly placed with some other dusthana lords in some dusthana. Even if the > dusthana lords are not associated with some other dusthana lord, but weakly > placed in some other dusthana would constitute VRY, with some lesser > extent... > > Regards > Sarajit > > - > "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660 > <vedic astrology> > Monday, October 08, 2001 2:41 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Vipareeta Raja Yoga > > > > I may be mistaken here, but I was under the impression that the Viparita > > yoga is formed due to the fall of functional malefics in the chart, > > rendering them powerless. > > > > Would this apply to a malefic in own house etc? e.g. 6th ruler in the 6th > or > > 12th ruler in the 12th etc? > > > > Nimmi > > - > > "Doug Riemer" <vedic > > <vedic astrology> > > Sunday, October 07, 2001 9:05 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Vipareeta Raja Yoga > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Rao's example a little confusing - for the Viparita is formed > > > when malefic lords join, and they do in triplicate here. > > > > > > Whether the Viparita is stronger because it is in the 3rd house > > > brings up the same question about the 3rd being a dusthana. > > > > > > Well, at least we've put this on the table rather completely for > > > someone to pick up. > > > > > > doug riemer > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, ron@i... wrote: > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > --------------- > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. H. R. Rao, Pranaam: > > > > > > > > Yes, it is a strong Vipareeta Raja Yoga *in my opinion*. > > > > > > > > Reason: > > > > > > > > As I mentioned in my earlier post... > > > > > > > > I also consider 3rd house as Dusthana and I believe so does Sanjay > > > > Ji. > > > > > > > > In your case, since all the other Dusthana lords [Mercury, Sun, and > > > > Jupiter] are in your 3rd house, well, it is a strong VRY. > > > > > > > > However...I could be wrong about some points I emphasized in > > > previous > > > > and this post [namely 3rd house, own house, etc]. > > > > > > > > So; let us see what respected Guruji(s) and experts have to say. I > > > am > > > > merely a humble shishya. > > > > > > > > In the meantime... > > > > > > > > Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you > > > > take care too. > > > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > > > > > Kind regards and best wishes, > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, ramadasrao@h... wrote: > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya > > > > > Namaste Ron, > > > > > When the discussion about Viparreta Raja Yoga is going on,Just I > > > > > remembered my case.My Lagna is Makara and in my 3rd house a > > > > > combination of 6th Lord Mercury,8th Lord Sun and 12th Lord > > > Jupiter > > > > > are there and aspected by Lagna lord Saturn.During Jupiter Dasa > > > nad > > > > > Venus Sub-period I went abroad unpectedly for higher > > > remunerations > > > > > and still I am working abroad and getting higher remunerations.So > > > > is > > > > > it not the effect of Vipareetha Raja Yoga ? > > > > > Please shed light on this. > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > H.R.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.