Venus in 12th exact chart - born 7 days before, + 2 similar cases

[Guest guest]

Dear Murali,

 

Sometimes in cases like this it is not necessarily that the person in

sexually immoral. Often they are abused sexually against their will.

If what Visti said is the case, and the navamsa does not show sexual

proclivities, then another explanation for the position must be

looked into. In Navamsa 8th from AL holds the Mars/Venus/Mercury

combination in a Venusian sign, which indicates unwanted sexual

difficulties, although aspect of exalted Jupiter provides relief. The

4th from Lagnamsa also shows sexual activities as it shows the place

of sex. In the 7th from UL in navamsa, this combination shows

obstruction to marriage due to these sexual matters.

 

I have two charts of girls with Venus in Scorpio in the 12th house.

The first girl has the aspect of Mars from Cancer. She was nearly

raped by 5 young men in the US, and has suffered physical abuse from

a evil boyfriend. She has also been taken advantage of in a drunken

state, and had an older man force himself onto her. The first girl

has average sexual morals. She has strong sexual desires, but they

are held in check, perhaps by Jupiter and Ketu in Saggitarius

navamsa. Mars is in Sag, and Venus in Pisces.

 

The second girl has suffered sexual abuse from the father and uncle.

However morally she is much worse, and she has run most of the Venus

cycle. She has had sexual encounters with at least 50 men, several

women, and sometimes 2 men at a time. In her chart Venus is in Leo

navamsa aspected by Mars, Saturn and Rahu from Capricorn. Navamsa

lagna is not determined.

 

As a comparison, I have a chart given to me with the following

information. She was born about 7 days before your example. She had

sex for the first time at the age of 12, has had many sexual

partners, and is bisexual and has expressed desires to join orgies.

She has also taken drugs, beginning in the Rahu dasa, and continuing

into Jupiter. She mixes many different types of drugs. She has not

been able to hold any successful relationships for more than a few

months.

 

The navamsa Mars, Venus and Moon aspecting the 2nd house, as well as

the position of Mercury, Saturn, show her strong desires.

 

best regards,

 

Alex J

 

Girl born 7 days before

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | | | |

| Ket | | HL | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | Jup |

| | | |

| | | GL |

| | | |

| | | Sun |

|-------------| R A S I |-------------|

| | | |

| | | Sat |

| | | |

| | | MerR |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| Asc | | Glk | Rah Ven |

| | | | |

| BL | | Mnd | Mar Moo |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| HL | | | |

| | | | Sat |

| Ven | | Asc | |

| | | | MerR |

| Mar | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| Sun | | |

| | | Jup |

| Rah | | |

| | | |

|-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

| | | |

| | | BL |

| Mnd | | |

| | | Ket |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | | GL | |

| | | | Moo |

| | | Glk | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

2nd girl abused by father and paternal uncle. See debilitated Sun

with Mars and Rahu in 2nd from A7 and UL. Slept with over 50 men.

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | HL | | |

| | | JupR | |

| | Ket | | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | Sat |

| | | |

| | | Moo |

| | | |

|-------------| R A S I |-------------|

| | | |

| BL | | |

| | | |

| GL | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | Ven | Sun | |

| | | | |

| Asc | Glk | Rah | Mer |

| | | | |

| | Mnd | Mar | |

+----------------------+

 

Navamsa lagna unknown

+----------------------+

| | | | HL |

| | | | |

| Moo | | | Mer |

| | | | |

| | | | Asc |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| JupR | | Ket |

| | | |

| BL | | GL |

| | | |

|-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

| Sat | | |

| | | |

| Rah | | Ven |

| | | |

| Mar | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | Mnd | Sun | Glk |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

1st girl, forced into sex by older man, sexual morals are regulated,

due to Ketu's exalted aspect in navamsa on Venus and Mars.

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | | | |

| Ket | | Moo | JupR |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | MarR |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| R A S I |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | SatR |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| BL Asc | Mnd GL | | |

| | | Glk | Rah |

| MerR Sun | HL Ven | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

Navamsa lagna undetermined.

+----------------------+

| | Glk | | SatR |

| | | | |

| Ven | BL | MerR | Rah |

| | | | |

| | Asc | | Sun |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| Moo | | |

| | | Mnd |

| HL | | |

| | | |

|-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| JupR | | | |

| | | | |

| MarR | | GL | |

| | | | |

| Ket | | | |

+----------------------+

[Guest guest]

Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

------------

Hi Alex,

 

Try Cancer Navamsa for the 2nd girl, the 1st one

definitely has Saturn and Merc in 2nd from Lagnamsa.

 

Dunno about the third one, but i'd like to add;

 

Jaimini states that the 'first' sexual encounter is

seen in the 4th from Swamsa. Giving Argala on

3rd=Copulation, the 4th determines the place this act

would be performed.

 

Mars= Wall/hard surface, Mercury= Garden/grass,

Venus=bed/lying down, so mostlikely it happened in a

park. Mars is the only malefic, so this could have

been a very nice experience, and Jupiters aspect

supports this.. Being in 8th from AL, shows that this

wasn't what the person had in mind, but yet it wasn't

bad.. maybe a humiliating experience(see argalas)..

definitely clumsy(retro-merc).

 

Could you please send all 3 charts in JHD format, i

would appreciate it alot.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

 

 

 

Listen to your Mail messages from any phone.

http://phone.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I agree. Rahu/Mars in most placements brings abuse for women,

and considering this placement is the 12th with fallen 1st and 8th

ruler Venus, the abuse can bring a major catastrophy to her body.

Perhaps, considering the Dasas and transits, she experiences a

virulent and infectuous sexual disease from the abuse due to Rahu

(toxicity) and Mars (infectous disease) ruling 2 marakas.

 

doug riemer

 

vedic astrology, "Alex J" <lostinmotion@h...> wrote:

> Dear Murali,

>

> Sometimes in cases like this it is not necessarily that the person

in

> sexually immoral. Often they are abused sexually against their

will.

> If what Visti said is the case, and the navamsa does not show

sexual

> proclivities, then another explanation for the position must be

> looked into. In Navamsa 8th from AL holds the Mars/Venus/Mercury

> combination in a Venusian sign, which indicates unwanted sexual

> difficulties, although aspect of exalted Jupiter provides relief.

The

> 4th from Lagnamsa also shows sexual activities as it shows the

place

> of sex. In the 7th from UL in navamsa, this combination shows

> obstruction to marriage due to these sexual matters.

>

> I have two charts of girls with Venus in Scorpio in the 12th house.

> The first girl has the aspect of Mars from Cancer. She was nearly

> raped by 5 young men in the US, and has suffered physical abuse

from

> a evil boyfriend. She has also been taken advantage of in a drunken

> state, and had an older man force himself onto her. The first girl

> has average sexual morals. She has strong sexual desires, but they

> are held in check, perhaps by Jupiter and Ketu in Saggitarius

> navamsa. Mars is in Sag, and Venus in Pisces.

>

> The second girl has suffered sexual abuse from the father and

uncle.

> However morally she is much worse, and she has run most of the

Venus

> cycle. She has had sexual encounters with at least 50 men, several

> women, and sometimes 2 men at a time. In her chart Venus is in Leo

> navamsa aspected by Mars, Saturn and Rahu from Capricorn. Navamsa

> lagna is not determined.

>

> As a comparison, I have a chart given to me with the following

> information. She was born about 7 days before your example. She had

> sex for the first time at the age of 12, has had many sexual

> partners, and is bisexual and has expressed desires to join orgies.

> She has also taken drugs, beginning in the Rahu dasa, and

continuing

> into Jupiter. She mixes many different types of drugs. She has not

> been able to hold any successful relationships for more than a few

> months.

>

> The navamsa Mars, Venus and Moon aspecting the 2nd house, as well

as

> the position of Mercury, Saturn, show her strong desires.

>

> best regards,

>

> Alex J

>

> Girl born 7 days before

> +----------------------+

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | Ket | | HL | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | Jup |

> | | | |

> | | | GL |

> | | | |

> | | | Sun |

> |-------------| R A S I |-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | Sat |

> | | | |

> | | | MerR |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | | |

> | Asc | | Glk | Rah Ven |

> | | | | |

> | BL | | Mnd | Mar Moo |

> | | | | |

> +----------------------+

>

> +----------------------+

> | HL | | | |

> | | | | Sat |

> | Ven | | Asc | |

> | | | | MerR |

> | Mar | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | Sun | | |

> | | | Jup |

> | Rah | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | BL |

> | Mnd | | |

> | | | Ket |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | | |

> | | | GL | |

> | | | | Moo |

> | | | Glk | |

> | | | | |

> +----------------------+

>

> 2nd girl abused by father and paternal uncle. See debilitated Sun

> with Mars and Rahu in 2nd from A7 and UL. Slept with over 50 men.

> +----------------------+

> | | | | |

> | | HL | | |

> | | | JupR | |

> | | Ket | | |

> | | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | Sat |

> | | | |

> | | | Moo |

> | | | |

> |-------------| R A S I |-------------|

> | | | |

> | BL | | |

> | | | |

> | GL | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | Ven | Sun | |

> | | | | |

> | Asc | Glk | Rah | Mer |

> | | | | |

> | | Mnd | Mar | |

> +----------------------+

>

> Navamsa lagna unknown

> +----------------------+

> | | | | HL |

> | | | | |

> | Moo | | | Mer |

> | | | | |

> | | | | Asc |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | JupR | | Ket |

> | | | |

> | BL | | GL |

> | | | |

> |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

> | Sat | | |

> | | | |

> | Rah | | Ven |

> | | | |

> | Mar | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | Mnd | Sun | Glk |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> +----------------------+

>

> 1st girl, forced into sex by older man, sexual morals are

regulated,

> due to Ketu's exalted aspect in navamsa on Venus and Mars.

>

> +----------------------+

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | Ket | | Moo | JupR |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | MarR |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------| R A S I |-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | SatR |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | | |

> | BL Asc | Mnd GL | | |

> | | | Glk | Rah |

> | MerR Sun | HL Ven | | |

> | | | | |

> +----------------------+

>

> Navamsa lagna undetermined.

> +----------------------+

> | | Glk | | SatR |

> | | | | |

> | Ven | BL | MerR | Rah |

> | | | | |

> | | Asc | | Sun |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | Moo | | |

> | | | Mnd |

> | HL | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | JupR | | | |

> | | | | |

> | MarR | | GL | |

> | | | | |

> | Ket | | | |

> +----------------------+

[Guest guest]

In the first two cases, saturn aspect/associates 7th lord mercury and rahu

aspects/associates venus. In the third case, neither of these is true.

-

"Alex J" <lostinmotion

<vedic astrology>

Friday, September 28, 2001 10:46 PM

[vedic astrology] Venus in 12th exact chart - born 7 days before, +

2 similar cases

 

 

>

> Dear Murali,

>

> Sometimes in cases like this it is not necessarily that the person in

> sexually immoral. Often they are abused sexually against their will.

> If what Visti said is the case, and the navamsa does not show sexual

> proclivities, then another explanation for the position must be

> looked into. In Navamsa 8th from AL holds the Mars/Venus/Mercury

> combination in a Venusian sign, which indicates unwanted sexual

> difficulties, although aspect of exalted Jupiter provides relief. The

> 4th from Lagnamsa also shows sexual activities as it shows the place

> of sex. In the 7th from UL in navamsa, this combination shows

> obstruction to marriage due to these sexual matters.

>

> I have two charts of girls with Venus in Scorpio in the 12th house.

> The first girl has the aspect of Mars from Cancer. She was nearly

> raped by 5 young men in the US, and has suffered physical abuse from

> a evil boyfriend. She has also been taken advantage of in a drunken

> state, and had an older man force himself onto her. The first girl

> has average sexual morals. She has strong sexual desires, but they

> are held in check, perhaps by Jupiter and Ketu in Saggitarius

> navamsa. Mars is in Sag, and Venus in Pisces.

>

> The second girl has suffered sexual abuse from the father and uncle.

> However morally she is much worse, and she has run most of the Venus

> cycle. She has had sexual encounters with at least 50 men, several

> women, and sometimes 2 men at a time. In her chart Venus is in Leo

> navamsa aspected by Mars, Saturn and Rahu from Capricorn. Navamsa

> lagna is not determined.

>

> As a comparison, I have a chart given to me with the following

> information. She was born about 7 days before your example. She had

> sex for the first time at the age of 12, has had many sexual

> partners, and is bisexual and has expressed desires to join orgies.

> She has also taken drugs, beginning in the Rahu dasa, and continuing

> into Jupiter. She mixes many different types of drugs. She has not

> been able to hold any successful relationships for more than a few

> months.

>

> The navamsa Mars, Venus and Moon aspecting the 2nd house, as well as

> the position of Mercury, Saturn, show her strong desires.

>

> best regards,

>

> Alex J

>

> Girl born 7 days before

> +----------------------+

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | Ket | | HL | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | Jup |

> | | | |

> | | | GL |

> | | | |

> | | | Sun |

> |-------------| R A S I |-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | Sat |

> | | | |

> | | | MerR |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | | |

> | Asc | | Glk | Rah Ven |

> | | | | |

> | BL | | Mnd | Mar Moo |

> | | | | |

> +----------------------+

>

> +----------------------+

> | HL | | | |

> | | | | Sat |

> | Ven | | Asc | |

> | | | | MerR |

> | Mar | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | Sun | | |

> | | | Jup |

> | Rah | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | BL |

> | Mnd | | |

> | | | Ket |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | | |

> | | | GL | |

> | | | | Moo |

> | | | Glk | |

> | | | | |

> +----------------------+

>

> 2nd girl abused by father and paternal uncle. See debilitated Sun

> with Mars and Rahu in 2nd from A7 and UL. Slept with over 50 men.

> +----------------------+

> | | | | |

> | | HL | | |

> | | | JupR | |

> | | Ket | | |

> | | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | Sat |

> | | | |

> | | | Moo |

> | | | |

> |-------------| R A S I |-------------|

> | | | |

> | BL | | |

> | | | |

> | GL | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | Ven | Sun | |

> | | | | |

> | Asc | Glk | Rah | Mer |

> | | | | |

> | | Mnd | Mar | |

> +----------------------+

>

> Navamsa lagna unknown

> +----------------------+

> | | | | HL |

> | | | | |

> | Moo | | | Mer |

> | | | | |

> | | | | Asc |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | JupR | | Ket |

> | | | |

> | BL | | GL |

> | | | |

> |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

> | Sat | | |

> | | | |

> | Rah | | Ven |

> | | | |

> | Mar | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | Mnd | Sun | Glk |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> +----------------------+

>

> 1st girl, forced into sex by older man, sexual morals are regulated,

> due to Ketu's exalted aspect in navamsa on Venus and Mars.

>

> +----------------------+

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | Ket | | Moo | JupR |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | MarR |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------| R A S I |-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | SatR |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | | |

> | BL Asc | Mnd GL | | |

> | | | Glk | Rah |

> | MerR Sun | HL Ven | | |

> | | | | |

> +----------------------+

>

> Navamsa lagna undetermined.

> +----------------------+

> | | Glk | | SatR |

> | | | | |

> | Ven | BL | MerR | Rah |

> | | | | |

> | | Asc | | Sun |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | Moo | | |

> | | | Mnd |

> | HL | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | JupR | | | |

> | | | | |

> | MarR | | GL | |

> | | | | |

> | Ket | | | |

> +----------------------+

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>