SJVC Discussion group: Combinations for Astrologers

October 1, 2001

This is the second time I am sending this

message: maybe it will be posted this time.

The inharmonious aspect of Uranus to the Sun

is always a conspicuous feature of the

horoscopes of *leaders of the occult.

Robert Hand has this aspect but how many

others today ?

Good luck, Henry Jackson/PLUTO

October 1, 2001

Dear Henry,

In Vedic Astrology, We dont consider Uranus. Of course, Western

Astrologers say Uranus in 10th house makes one as occultist.

You can see an email for Sanjay related why Vedic astrology consider

9 grahas.

Best Regards, Venkat

> This is the second time I am sending this

> message: maybe it will be posted this time.

>

> The inharmonious aspect of Uranus to the Sun

> is always a conspicuous feature of the

> horoscopes of *leaders of the occult.

>

> Robert Hand has this aspect but how many

> others today ?

>

> Good luck, Henry Jackson/PLUTO

October 2, 2001

vedic astrology, plutopredicts wrote:

> This is the second time I am sending this

> message: maybe it will be posted this time.

>

> The inharmonious aspect of Uranus to the Sun

> is always a conspicuous feature of the

> horoscopes of *leaders of the occult.

>

> Robert Hand has this aspect but how many

> others today ?

>

> Good luck, Henry Jackson/PLUTO

Helou Henry,

I am too new member in group and study both western and jyotish, just

beginner in both. My first "touch" to jyotish came from Mark Kröger,

he´s Finn just like me. He made for me amazing astrological

interpretation based on his experience both in western and jyotish and

i feel him one of the best astrologers in our time. He have

uranus-connection too (Feb 20, 1969, 10:25, 62N54-27E41) by

aquarius-mercury/MC-120-jupiter/uranus/ketu, pisces-sun in 11th

(aquarian/uranian) placidushouse and moon/venus/saturn in 12th

(tropically). I guess water signs and houses takes mind to occult, but

air signs are needed too. Mark used to interpret himself by sideral

placidus system, where aquarius-sun is in aquarius-house. His vedic

nature is unknown for me, can anyone tell does he have astrological

talent also by vedic "eyes"? Is Mark in this list (huhuu!?), does

anyone know where he impress today? He unexplainedly vanished from

finnish postlists in last summer and i am "yearning" him.

Näkemiin!!

Piia

Ps. here is some interesting links for everyone...

Asko Parpola´s homepage (professor in vedic knowledge):

http://www.helsinki.fi/~aparpola/

http://www.harappa.com/welcome.html

http://www.harappa.com/script/parpola0.html

http://sarasvati.simplenet.com/html/sarastemplate1.htm

http://www.tamil.net/projectmadurai/pub/pm0044/addendum.html

http://www.asiatica.org/

http://www.asiatica.org/publications/ejvs/issues.html

October 2, 2001

vedic astrology, "Venkateshwara A

Reddy" <venkateshwara_reddy> wrote:

> Dear Henry, In Vedic Astr

Dear Venkat;i have been a vedic astrologer for

30 years and I and many, many other vedic

astrologers use Uranus, Neptune & Pluto.

Following the 11 Sept. incident ( Saturn opp

Pluto ) maybe the traditional vedic astrologers

will take their heads out of the sand and

recognise that that these 3 planets do exist and

use them.

i made no mention of the 10th house and my

statement is fully supported by the *eminent

astrologers who have had Sun in inharmonious

aspect with Uranus.

In fact this was observed by one of the greatest

astrologers of the 20th century. PLUTO

ology, We dont consider Uranus. Of course,

Western

> Astrologers say Uranus in 10th house makes

one as occultist.

> You can see an email for Sanjay related why

Vedic astrology consider

> 9 grahas.

>

> Best Regards, Venkat

>

> > This is the second time I am sending this

> > message: maybe it will be posted this time.

> >

> > The inharmonious aspect of Uranus to the

Sun

> > is always a conspicuous feature of the

> > horoscopes of *leaders of the occult.

> >

> > Robert Hand has this aspect but how many

> > others today ?

> >

> > Good luck, Henry Jackson/PLUTO

October 2, 2001

Hello,

Vedic Astrology does not use Uranus, Nepture and Pluto. If you read

BPHS or UPJS or any other classic there is no mention of these

planets. So I do not know which vedic astrologer uses these planets

for their prediction. These are very slow moving planets. Yes they

do exists so do the various other moons of Saturn, Jupiter which are

much larger than mercury, venus, earth and mars, but Vedic

Astrologers do not use it.

Cheers !!!

Ash

vedic astrology, plutopredicts wrote:

> vedic astrology, "Venkateshwara A

> Reddy" <venkateshwara_reddy> wrote:

> > Dear Henry, In Vedic Astr

>

> Dear Venkat;i have been a vedic astrologer for

> 30 years and I and many, many other vedic

> astrologers use Uranus, Neptune & Pluto.

> Following the 11 Sept. incident ( Saturn opp

> Pluto ) maybe the traditional vedic astrologers

> will take their heads out of the sand and

> recognise that that these 3 planets do exist and

> use them.

> i made no mention of the 10th house and my

> statement is fully supported by the *eminent

> astrologers who have had Sun in inharmonious

> aspect with Uranus.

> In fact this was observed by one of the greatest

> astrologers of the 20th century. PLUTO

ology, We dont consider Uranus. Of course,

> Western

> > Astrologers say Uranus in 10th house makes

> one as occultist.

> > You can see an email for Sanjay related why

> Vedic astrology consider

> > 9 grahas.

> >

> > Best Regards, Venkat

> >

> > > This is the second time I am sending this

> > > message: maybe it will be posted this time.

> > >

> > > The inharmonious aspect of Uranus to the

> Sun

> > > is always a conspicuous feature of the

> > > horoscopes of *leaders of the occult.

> > >

> > > Robert Hand has this aspect but how many

> > > others today ?

> > >

> > > Good luck, Henry Jackson/PLUTO

October 2, 2001

vedic astrology, ashsam73@h...

wrote:

I have read works by eminent vedic astrologers

who like to claim that these 3 planets were

know by ancient astrologers but different names

were used !!

So why do not vedic astrologers today use

these planets under the old indian names? you

cannot have it both ways.

Why do you mention" the various other moons

of saturn and jupiter".? I was talking about

planets, not moons.

Saturn too is a slow moving planet !

Read some books by Indian vedic astrologers

and you wiill see the names of those who use

these 3 planets.

..K S Krishnamurti and Manik Chand Jain used

these planets and they were *eminent Vedic

astrologers. Have a look at some vedic websites

and you will see vedic astrologers using these 3

planets. regards, PLUTO

> Hello,

>

> Vedic Astrology does not use Uranus, Nepture

and Pluto. If you read

> BPHS or UPJS or any other classic there is no

mention of these

> planets. So I do not know which vedic

astrologer uses these planets

> for their prediction. These are very slow

moving planets. Yes they

> do exists so do the various other moons of

Saturn, Jupiter which are

> much larger than mercury, venus, earth and

mars, but Vedic

> Astrologers do not use it.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> vedic astrology,

plutopredicts wrote:

> > vedic-

astrology, "Venkateshwara A

> > Reddy" <venkateshwara_reddy> wrote:

> > > Dear Henry, In Vedic Astr

> >

> > Dear Venkat;i have been a vedic astrologer

for

> > 30 years and I and many, many other vedic

> > astrologers use Uranus, Neptune & Pluto.

> > Following the 11 Sept. incident ( Saturn opp

> > Pluto ) maybe the traditional vedic

astrologers

> > will take their heads out of the sand and

> > recognise that that these 3 planets do exist

and

> > use them.

> > i made no mention of the 10th house and

my

> > statement is fully supported by the *eminent

> > astrologers who have had Sun in

inharmonious

> > aspect with Uranus.

> > In fact this was observed by one of the

greatest

> > astrologers of the 20th century. PLUTO

> >

> > ology, We dont consider Uranus. Of course,

> > Western

> > > Astrologers say Uranus in 10th house

makes

> > one as occultist.

> > > You can see an email for Sanjay related

why

> > Vedic astrology consider

> > > 9 grahas.

> > >

> > > Best Regards, Venkat

> > >

> > > > This is the second time I am sending

this

> > > > message: maybe it will be posted this

time.

> > > >

> > > > The inharmonious aspect of Uranus to

the

> > Sun

> > > > is always a conspicuous feature of the

> > > > horoscopes of *leaders of the occult.

> > > >

> > > > Robert Hand has this aspect but how

many

> > > > others today ?

> > > >

> > > > Good luck, Henry Jackson/PLUTO

October 2, 2001

> wrote:

> I have read works by eminent vedic astrologers

> who like to claim that these 3 planets were

> know by ancient astrologers but different names

> were used !!

well, They might consider those 3 planets as Upagrahas

in Vedic Astrology. But it is not true.

> So why do not vedic astrologers today use

> these planets under the old indian names? you

> cannot have it both ways.

> Why do you mention" the various other moons

> of saturn and jupiter".? I was talking about

> planets, not moons.

> Saturn too is a slow moving planet !

> Read some books by Indian vedic astrologers

> and you wiill see the names of those who use

> these 3 planets.

> .K S Krishnamurti and Manik Chand Jain used

> these planets and they were *eminent Vedic

> astrologers.

I read KP readers. KM did not mention abt Various Vargas.

He only consider Rasi and Navamsa. He bombarded other

astrologers with a question ~Twins birth~.

I think, he did not fully assimilate BPHS

Of course, I am ameteur.

Best Regards, Venkat

October 2, 2001

I personally don't use the outer planets and,considering only the 9

traditional Vedic planets, was able to offer a prediction in advance

of the 9/11 disaster:

"There may also be some religious fanaticism aggravating the

situation - Mideast stuff? I see 9/10 - 9/14 as being really

bizarre."

This is on my website www.vedicpredictiveastrology.com

While I certainly don't object to anyone using the outer planets, in

my experience, they are redundant and using them thereby can mislead

by giving false confluence - repeatition of influences. On the other

hand, I expect those astrologers using the outer planets are aware of

this issue and interpret charts accordingly.

In summary, as "Each occult system is complete within itself," and

Jyotish predates the outer planets, I would be very careful in

incorporating Uranus, Neptune and Pluto into interpretations.

doug riemer

vedic astrology, plutopredicts wrote:

> vedic astrology, "Venkateshwara A

> Reddy" <venkateshwara_reddy> wrote:

> > Dear Henry, In Vedic Astr

>

> Dear Venkat;i have been a vedic astrologer for

> 30 years and I and many, many other vedic

> astrologers use Uranus, Neptune & Pluto.

> Following the 11 Sept. incident ( Saturn opp

> Pluto ) maybe the traditional vedic astrologers

> will take their heads out of the sand and

> recognise that that these 3 planets do exist and

> use them.

> i made no mention of the 10th house and my

> statement is fully supported by the *eminent

> astrologers who have had Sun in inharmonious

> aspect with Uranus.

> In fact this was observed by one of the greatest

> astrologers of the 20th century. PLUTO

ology, We dont consider Uranus. Of course,

> Western

> > Astrologers say Uranus in 10th house makes

> one as occultist.

> > You can see an email for Sanjay related why

> Vedic astrology consider

> > 9 grahas.

> >

> > Best Regards, Venkat

> >

> > > This is the second time I am sending this

> > > message: maybe it will be posted this time.

> > >

> > > The inharmonious aspect of Uranus to the

> Sun

> > > is always a conspicuous feature of the

> > > horoscopes of *leaders of the occult.

> > >

> > > Robert Hand has this aspect but how many

> > > others today ?

> > >

> > > Good luck, Henry Jackson/PLUTO

October 2, 2001

Sorry, Pluto, but I can't resist adding that I like having my head in

the sand, for sticking with traditional Vedic knowledge offers a

pretty nice view.

doug riemer

vedic astrology, "Doug Riemer" <vedic@k...> wrote:

> I personally don't use the outer planets and,considering only the 9

> traditional Vedic planets, was able to offer a prediction in

advance

> of the 9/11 disaster:

>

> "There may also be some religious fanaticism aggravating the

> situation - Mideast stuff? I see 9/10 - 9/14 as being really

> bizarre."

>

> This is on my website www.vedicpredictiveastrology.com

>

> While I certainly don't object to anyone using the outer planets,

in

> my experience, they are redundant and using them thereby can

mislead

> by giving false confluence - repeatition of influences. On the

other

> hand, I expect those astrologers using the outer planets are aware

of

> this issue and interpret charts accordingly.

>

> In summary, as "Each occult system is complete within itself," and

> Jyotish predates the outer planets, I would be very careful in

> incorporating Uranus, Neptune and Pluto into interpretations.

>

> doug riemer

>

> vedic astrology, plutopredicts wrote:

> > vedic astrology, "Venkateshwara A

> > Reddy" <venkateshwara_reddy> wrote:

> > > Dear Henry, In Vedic Astr

> >

> > Dear Venkat;i have been a vedic astrologer for

> > 30 years and I and many, many other vedic

> > astrologers use Uranus, Neptune & Pluto.

> > Following the 11 Sept. incident ( Saturn opp

> > Pluto ) maybe the traditional vedic astrologers

> > will take their heads out of the sand and

> > recognise that that these 3 planets do exist and

> > use them.

> > i made no mention of the 10th house and my

> > statement is fully supported by the *eminent

> > astrologers who have had Sun in inharmonious

> > aspect with Uranus.

> > In fact this was observed by one of the greatest

> > astrologers of the 20th century. PLUTO

> >

> > ology, We dont consider Uranus. Of course,

> > Western

> > > Astrologers say Uranus in 10th house makes

> > one as occultist.

> > > You can see an email for Sanjay related why

> > Vedic astrology consider

> > > 9 grahas.

> > >

> > > Best Regards, Venkat

> > >

> > > > This is the second time I am sending this

> > > > message: maybe it will be posted this time.

> > > >

> > > > The inharmonious aspect of Uranus to the

> > Sun

> > > > is always a conspicuous feature of the

> > > > horoscopes of *leaders of the occult.

> > > >

> > > > Robert Hand has this aspect but how many

> > > > others today ?

> > > >

> > > > Good luck, Henry Jackson/PLUTO

October 2, 2001

Dear Henry,

> Dear Venkat;i have been a vedic astrologer for

> 30 years and I and many, many other vedic

> astrologers use Uranus, Neptune & Pluto.

Yes, there are astrologers who claim to be "Vedic astrologers" and

yet use these planets. However, Vedic astrologers like Dr. B.V. Raman

always vehemently opposed this idea.

Some like Prof. P.S. Sastry show verses from Mahabharata suggesting

that Vyasa knew about outer planets, but he does not show a single

verse from Vyasa or Parasara showing that they have to be *used* in

predictive horoscopy.

> Following the 11 Sept. incident ( Saturn opp

> Pluto ) maybe the traditional vedic astrologers

> will take their heads out of the sand and

> recognise that that these 3 planets do exist and

> use them.

We are very happy with our heads in the sand.

Not only was Saturn opposite Pluto, but Mars was in an exact

conjunction with Ketu - considered a harmful conjunction in Vedic

astrology - very close to the natal ascendant of USA. In fact, Doug

Reimer said on the night before the attack on the basis of the same

conjunction that world might be a changed place before the end of

September. Note that it happened in an agni rasi.

If one wants to call oneself a Vedic/Hindu astrologer, one should

first understand what Hindu Sages taught. Sadly, some people are only

too happy to introduce corruptions in the knowledge that they only

barely understand.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

PS: I received your "irrefutable proof" of Krishnamoorthy ayanamsa in

personal mail a few weeks back, but was busy to reply. I do not see

any "a proof" - let alone "irrefutable proof" - in that highly

questionable argument based on one event for one nation and based on

one factor.

October 2, 2001

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Henry!

I hope others also went through this mail and thought over it also... We

donot consider Extra Saturnine planets in vedic astrology as they are not of

much significance in vedic astrology. They are not mentioned by the seers in

the treatise, not because they didn't know it, but they found everything can

be explained with the 9 planets only (with Sun, Rahu and Ketu).

Even I know Uranus gives thoughts and insights much ahead and Sun is the

naisargika atmamaraka and there could be relations which show interest in

astrology or occult. However the same can be explained in many more ways

through vedic astrology...

regards

Sarajit

-

<plutopredicts

Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:11 AM

[vedic astrology] SJVC Discussion group: Combinations for

Astrologers

> This is the second time I am sending this

> message: maybe it will be posted this time.

>

> The inharmonious aspect of Uranus to the Sun

> is always a conspicuous feature of the

> horoscopes of *leaders of the occult.

>

> Robert Hand has this aspect but how many

> others today ?

>

> Good luck, Henry Jackson/PLUTO

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

October 3, 2001

Dear Pluto Predicts,

Vedic astrologers do not use Uranus, Neptune and Pluto as other

names. Could you please cite an example with the names of the

supposidly planets that are refering to uranus, neptune and pluto.

Yes, Saturn is a slow moving planet but it does cover a sign in 2.5

years. Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are even slower but the Maharishis

drew a line and Planets till Saturn are used.

BTW, What is your point with this email ?

Cheers !!!

Ash

vedic astrology, plutopredicts wrote:

> vedic astrology, ashsam73@h...

> wrote:

> I have read works by eminent vedic astrologers

> who like to claim that these 3 planets were

> know by ancient astrologers but different names

> were used !!

> So why do not vedic astrologers today use

> these planets under the old indian names? you

> cannot have it both ways.

> Why do you mention" the various other moons

> of saturn and jupiter".? I was talking about

> planets, not moons.

> Saturn too is a slow moving planet !

> Read some books by Indian vedic astrologers

> and you wiill see the names of those who use

> these 3 planets.

> .K S Krishnamurti and Manik Chand Jain used

> these planets and they were *eminent Vedic

> astrologers. Have a look at some vedic websites

> and you will see vedic astrologers using these 3

> planets. regards, PLUTO

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > Vedic Astrology does not use Uranus, Nepture

> and Pluto. If you read

> > BPHS or UPJS or any other classic there is no

> mention of these

> > planets. So I do not know which vedic

> astrologer uses these planets

> > for their prediction. These are very slow

> moving planets. Yes they

> > do exists so do the various other moons of

> Saturn, Jupiter which are

> > much larger than mercury, venus, earth and

> mars, but Vedic

> > Astrologers do not use it.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > vedic astrology,

> plutopredicts wrote:

> > > vedic-

> astrology, "Venkateshwara A

> > > Reddy" <venkateshwara_reddy> wrote:

> > > > Dear Henry, In Vedic Astr

> > >

> > > Dear Venkat;i have been a vedic astrologer

> for

> > > 30 years and I and many, many other vedic

> > > astrologers use Uranus, Neptune & Pluto.

> > > Following the 11 Sept. incident ( Saturn opp

> > > Pluto ) maybe the traditional vedic

> astrologers

> > > will take their heads out of the sand and

> > > recognise that that these 3 planets do exist

> and

> > > use them.

> > > i made no mention of the 10th house and

> my

> > > statement is fully supported by the *eminent

> > > astrologers who have had Sun in

> inharmonious

> > > aspect with Uranus.

> > > In fact this was observed by one of the

> greatest

> > > astrologers of the 20th century. PLUTO

> > >

> > > ology, We dont consider Uranus. Of course,

> > > Western

> > > > Astrologers say Uranus in 10th house

> makes

> > > one as occultist.

> > > > You can see an email for Sanjay related

> why

> > > Vedic astrology consider

> > > > 9 grahas.

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards, Venkat

> > > >

> > > > > This is the second time I am sending

> this

> > > > > message: maybe it will be posted this

> time.

> > > > >

> > > > > The inharmonious aspect of Uranus to

> the

> > > Sun

> > > > > is always a conspicuous feature of the

> > > > > horoscopes of *leaders of the occult.

> > > > >

> > > > > Robert Hand has this aspect but how

> many

> > > > > others today ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Good luck, Henry Jackson/PLUTO

October 3, 2001

Aum Gurave Namah

Dear Pluto and Ash!

I suggest that the thread of this discussion should be dropped here only.

This won't lead anywhere. There are astrologers like P.S.Shastri who used

the extra-saturnine planets but that does mean that vedic astrology require

their use. As Narasimha mentioned, he (Shastri) drew the conclusion

fromMahabharata, that maharshis knew about the planets and could have used

them. However that is not substantiated by the available treatise on

jyotish. This is quite true that the maharishis knew their presence (they

have indian names too such as Varun, Yama etc.), but they didn't use as they

thought their use to be redundant.When most of the events can be explained

by the 9 planets why should be try to complicate matter. If we consider the

extra-saturnine planets, we could very well consider many other bodies too

such as asteroids or planetary moons as well. Somewhere we have to draw a

line. Maharshis drew the line upto Saturn.

There are still astrologers who try to incorporate the best practices of the

eastern and western astrology. However this can complicate matter if done by

an "non-expert". For the time-being isn't it better to stick to what

maharshis have taught rather than speculating..

regards

Sarajit

-

<ashsam73

Wednesday, October 03, 2001 6:08 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: SJVC Discussion group: Combinations for

Astrologers

> Dear Pluto Predicts,

>

> Vedic astrologers do not use Uranus, Neptune and Pluto as other

> names. Could you please cite an example with the names of the

> supposidly planets that are refering to uranus, neptune and pluto.

>

> Yes, Saturn is a slow moving planet but it does cover a sign in 2.5

> years. Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are even slower but the Maharishis

> drew a line and Planets till Saturn are used.

>

> BTW, What is your point with this email ?

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> vedic astrology, plutopredicts wrote:

> > vedic astrology, ashsam73@h...

> > wrote:

> > I have read works by eminent vedic astrologers

> > who like to claim that these 3 planets were

> > know by ancient astrologers but different names

> > were used !!

> > So why do not vedic astrologers today use

> > these planets under the old indian names? you

> > cannot have it both ways.

> > Why do you mention" the various other moons

> > of saturn and jupiter".? I was talking about

> > planets, not moons.

> > Saturn too is a slow moving planet !

> > Read some books by Indian vedic astrologers

> > and you wiill see the names of those who use

> > these 3 planets.

> > .K S Krishnamurti and Manik Chand Jain used

> > these planets and they were *eminent Vedic

> > astrologers. Have a look at some vedic websites

> > and you will see vedic astrologers using these 3

> > planets. regards, PLUTO

> >

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrology does not use Uranus, Nepture

> > and Pluto. If you read

> > > BPHS or UPJS or any other classic there is no

> > mention of these

> > > planets. So I do not know which vedic

> > astrologer uses these planets

> > > for their prediction. These are very slow

> > moving planets. Yes they

> > > do exists so do the various other moons of

> > Saturn, Jupiter which are

> > > much larger than mercury, venus, earth and

> > mars, but Vedic

> > > Astrologers do not use it.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > vedic astrology,

> > plutopredicts wrote:

> > > > vedic-

> > astrology, "Venkateshwara A

> > > > Reddy" <venkateshwara_reddy> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Henry, In Vedic Astr

> > > >

> > > > Dear Venkat;i have been a vedic astrologer

> > for

> > > > 30 years and I and many, many other vedic

> > > > astrologers use Uranus, Neptune & Pluto.

> > > > Following the 11 Sept. incident ( Saturn opp

> > > > Pluto ) maybe the traditional vedic

> > astrologers

> > > > will take their heads out of the sand and

> > > > recognise that that these 3 planets do exist

> > and

> > > > use them.

> > > > i made no mention of the 10th house and

> > my

> > > > statement is fully supported by the *eminent

> > > > astrologers who have had Sun in

> > inharmonious

> > > > aspect with Uranus.

> > > > In fact this was observed by one of the

> > greatest

> > > > astrologers of the 20th century. PLUTO

> > > >

> > > > ology, We dont consider Uranus. Of course,

> > > > Western

> > > > > Astrologers say Uranus in 10th house

> > makes

> > > > one as occultist.

> > > > > You can see an email for Sanjay related

> > why

> > > > Vedic astrology consider

> > > > > 9 grahas.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Regards, Venkat

> > > > >

> > > > > > This is the second time I am sending

> > this

> > > > > > message: maybe it will be posted this

> > time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The inharmonious aspect of Uranus to

> > the

> > > > Sun

> > > > > > is always a conspicuous feature of the

> > > > > > horoscopes of *leaders of the occult.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Robert Hand has this aspect but how

> > many

> > > > > > others today ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good luck, Henry Jackson/PLUTO

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

October 3, 2001

Hi

A saturn opposition to pluto lasts for a very long time as both are slow

planets. You can say that something major somewhere will happen during a

saturn opposition to pluto, or in fact saturn in any relationship to pluto.

We need something a bit more finegrained than the outer planets, whether

they are useful or not in astrology.

However, it is possible they have a bearing on inner energies. Here again, I

am not sure. I have moon exactly opposite pluto on the 2nd 8th axis. This

should cause me trauma via my mother I would have thought. However, this is

very far from being the case. In fact, I owe a lot of my early education to

her.

Regards,

Nimmi

-

<plutopredicts

Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:27 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: SJVC Discussion group: Combinations for

Astrologers

>

> vedic astrology, "Venkateshwara A

> Reddy" <venkateshwara_reddy> wrote:

> > Dear Henry, In Vedic Astr

>

> Dear Venkat;i have been a vedic astrologer for

> 30 years and I and many, many other vedic

> astrologers use Uranus, Neptune & Pluto.

> Following the 11 Sept. incident ( Saturn opp

> Pluto ) maybe the traditional vedic astrologers

> will take their heads out of the sand and

> recognise that that these 3 planets do exist and

> use them.

> i made no mention of the 10th house and my

> statement is fully supported by the *eminent

> astrologers who have had Sun in inharmonious

> aspect with Uranus.

> In fact this was observed by one of the greatest

> astrologers of the 20th century. PLUTO

ology, We dont consider Uranus. Of course,

> Western

> > Astrologers say Uranus in 10th house makes

> one as occultist.

> > You can see an email for Sanjay related why

> Vedic astrology consider

> > 9 grahas.

> >

> > Best Regards, Venkat

> >

> > > This is the second time I am sending this

> > > message: maybe it will be posted this time.

> > >

> > > The inharmonious aspect of Uranus to the

> Sun

> > > is always a conspicuous feature of the

> > > horoscopes of *leaders of the occult.

> > >

> > > Robert Hand has this aspect but how many

> > > others today ?

> > >

> > > Good luck, Henry Jackson/PLUTO

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

October 3, 2001

vedic astrology, ashsam73@h...

wrote:

It was in reply to Venkatechwara Reddy's email

to me. henry/pluto

> Dear Pluto Predicts,

>

> Vedic astrologers do not use Uranus, Neptune

and Pluto as other

> names. Could you please cite an example with

the names of the

> supposidly planets that are refering to uranus,

neptune and pluto.

>

> Yes, Saturn is a slow moving planet but it

does cover a sign in 2.5

> years. Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are even

slower but the Maharishis

> drew a line and Planets till Saturn are used.

>

> BTW, What is your point with this email ?

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> vedic astrology,

plutopredicts wrote:

> > vedic astrology, ashsam73@h...

> > wrote:

> > I have read works by eminent vedic

astrologers

> > who like to claim that these 3 planets were

> > know by ancient astrologers but different

names

> > were used !!

> > So why do not vedic astrologers today use

> > these planets under the old indian names?

you

> > cannot have it both ways.

> > Why do you mention" the various other

moons

> > of saturn and jupiter".? I was talking about

> > planets, not moons.

> > Saturn too is a slow moving planet !

> > Read some books by Indian vedic

astrologers

> > and you wiill see the names of those who

use

> > these 3 planets.

> > .K S Krishnamurti and Manik Chand Jain

used

> > these planets and they were *eminent Vedic

> > astrologers. Have a look at some vedic

websites

> > and you will see vedic astrologers using

these 3

> > planets. regards, PLUTO

> >

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrology does not use Uranus,

Nepture

> > and Pluto. If you read

> > > BPHS or UPJS or any other classic there

is no

> > mention of these

> > > planets. So I do not know which vedic

> > astrologer uses these planets

> > > for their prediction. These are very slow

> > moving planets. Yes they

> > > do exists so do the various other moons

of

> > Saturn, Jupiter which are

> > > much larger than mercury, venus, earth

and

> > mars, but Vedic

> > > Astrologers do not use it.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > vedic astrology,

> > plutopredicts wrote:

> > > > vedic-

> > astrology, "Venkateshwara A

> > > > Reddy" <venkateshwara_reddy>

wrote:

> > > > > Dear Henry, In Vedic Astr

> > > >

> > > > Dear Venkat;i have been a vedic

astrologer

> > for

> > > > 30 years and I and many, many other

vedic

> > > > astrologers use Uranus, Neptune &

Pluto.

> > > > Following the 11 Sept. incident ( Saturn

opp

> > > > Pluto ) maybe the traditional vedic

> > astrologers

> > > > will take their heads out of the sand and

> > > > recognise that that these 3 planets do

exist

> > and

> > > > use them.

> > > > i made no mention of the 10th house

and

> > my

> > > > statement is fully supported by the

*eminent

> > > > astrologers who have had Sun in

> > inharmonious

> > > > aspect with Uranus.

> > > > In fact this was observed by one of the

> > greatest

> > > > astrologers of the 20th century. PLUTO

> > > >

> > > > ology, We dont consider Uranus. Of

course,

> > > > Western

> > > > > Astrologers say Uranus in 10th house

> > makes

> > > > one as occultist.

> > > > > You can see an email for Sanjay

> > > > Vedic astrology consider

> > > > > 9 grahas.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Regards, Venkat

> > > > >

> > > > > > This is the second time I am

sending

> > this

> > > > > > message: maybe it will be posted

this

> > time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The inharmonious aspect of Uranus

to

> > the

> > > > Sun

> > > > > > is always a conspicuous feature of

the

> > > > > > horoscopes of *leaders of the

occult.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Robert Hand has this aspect but

how

> > many

> > > > > > others today ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good luck, Henry Jackson/PLUTO

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