Guest guest Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 Hi, I have seen references that both of these charts show past life activities, but what is their difference? Is the d-60 preferred over the d-12? p.s. Something I was just wondering about, if you happen to know, is kaala the same as kala and kalaa, and is preta the same as preeta? Thanks, Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 Om Krishna Guru --------------- Dear Angie, Pranaam: To the best of my knowledge, there is no Vargaa [Division] that I know would *specifically* show past life activities. Although, there is no doubt that there are higher Vargaas [Like D-180 and so on] that are well guarded and known amongst few traditions [paramparas] and families. For example, if you want to see what type of house you were living; in your past life, this would be rather difficult if not impossible. But it would be easy to see the happiness or sadness, etc., from past *lives* [not just one life]. D-60 as known as Shastyamsa, is a chart to study *PAST LIFE KARMA* [and implies more than one life] rather than to study the past life itself. If I am wrong here, may the respected Guruji(s) and expert(s) correct me. Many thanks in advance. As for your asking the meaning of various Sanskrit terms, I am not sure what you mean by each spelling, but let me give it a try: 1) Kala = Black [example: Mother Kali = Black/Dark = derived from Kala] 2) Kaala = Time [example: Kaala Purusha or Time Personified] 3) Kalaa = Art/Talent [derived from Kaali which could also mean a petal of a flower]. 4) Preta = Ghost [usually associated with Ghosts, Spirits, other than humanly form] as in the common word Bhoota-Preta in Sanskrit derived languages [used in India]. 5) Preeta = Affection or love [example: Preetam or Pritam generally meaning a beloved]. Of course, there are hundreds of meanings for each word in Sanskrit [depending upon construction and usage], but the above are generally known amongst average Sanskrit speakers. Hope I have deciphered your spellings correctly. With that... Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you take care too. Om Namo Narayana Kind regards and best wishes, Ron vedic astrology, spyrikal@w... wrote: > Hi, I have seen references that both of these charts show past life activities, but what is their difference? Is the d-60 preferred over the d-12? p.s. Something I was just wondering about, if you happen to know, is kaala the same as kala and kalaa, and is preta the same as preeta? Thanks, Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 Angie, Parasara taught tht D-12 shows matters relating to parents. He taught that D-60 shows everything. The tradition I belong to clarifies further that past life events are seen in D-60 (and that's why Parasara said D-60 controls "everything"). For example, somebody with exalted Moon in 3rd from arudha lagna in D- 60 may have died in water in past life and may develop hydrophobia in this life. Someone with Jupiter in 5th in D-60 may be a good astrologer in past life and astrology will come easily in this life. Somebody with the arudha of Venus in Pisces in 3rd house in D-60 may have aspired to become a poet in last life and may become a poet in this life. And so on. BTW remember this general guideline: Divisions from 1 to 12 show matters relating to the physical level of existence (e.g. house, money, family, father, son, wife, job etc). Divisions from 13 to 24 show matters relating to the mental/intellectual/conscious level of existence (e.g. happiness, knowledge, spirituality). Divisions from 25 to 36 show matters relating to the sub-conscious level of existence (e.g. sub-conscious strengths & weaknesses, sub- conscious forces at play in one's personality). Divisions above 36 show matters relating to the past karma (past actions) of mother, father and native and they have a vital role in deciding the results one gets in this life. Esp D-60 shows native's past life. One will not only have to pay for one's own past sins, but also for those of parents. The reverse holds for good deeds. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha vedic astrology, spyrikal@w... wrote: > Hi, I have seen references that both of these charts show past life activities, but what is their difference? Is the d-60 preferred over the d-12? p.s. Something I was just wondering about, if you happen to know, is kaala the same as kala and kalaa, and is preta the same as preeta? Thanks, Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Om Krishna Guru --------------- Respected Narasimha Ji, Pranaam: Narasimha Ji... While I am fully aware that you yourself are a Guruji and that Sanjay Rath Ji of our Parampara [sJVC] is your Guruji... On the matter of D-60 and past life, I will have to humbly disagree with you. Sorry and please forgive me if I have offended you as I am merely a humble shishya. I *insist* that one *cannot* see the exact circumstances of past life from D-60 alone. I agree that there are other methods like Nadi, etc. to see the indications and circumstances of past life. For example, one could Regress Jupiter - one sign - [from current life chart] to see past life, or one could Progress Jupiter - one sign - [from current life chart] to see future life, etc. However, D-60 or Shastyamsa should [*in my personal opinion*] only be used to see the *inheritance of Karma from past live*s*]. On other points in your post below [e.g. Dwadasamsa or D-12 for parents, etc.], I am in full agreement with you. I believe, it would be best for all of us if Sanjay Ji can take some time to re-visit this list and clarify this matter for us; here at VA List. Sanjay Ji...Many thanks in advance and sorry for disturbing you. With that... Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you [all] take care too. Om Namo Narayana Kind regards and best wishes, Ron vedic astrology, pvr@c... wrote: > Angie, > > Parasara taught tht D-12 shows matters relating to parents. > > He taught that D-60 shows everything. The tradition I belong to > clarifies further that past life events are seen in D-60 (and that's > why Parasara said D-60 controls "everything"). > > For example, somebody with exalted Moon in 3rd from arudha lagna in D- > 60 may have died in water in past life and may develop hydrophobia in > this life. Someone with Jupiter in 5th in D-60 may be a good > astrologer in past life and astrology will come easily in this life. > Somebody with the arudha of Venus in Pisces in 3rd house in D-60 may > have aspired to become a poet in last life and may become a poet in > this life. And so on. > > BTW remember this general guideline: > > Divisions from 1 to 12 show matters relating to the physical level of > existence (e.g. house, money, family, father, son, wife, job etc). > > Divisions from 13 to 24 show matters relating to the > mental/intellectual/conscious level of existence (e.g. happiness, > knowledge, spirituality). > > Divisions from 25 to 36 show matters relating to the sub-conscious > level of existence (e.g. sub-conscious strengths & weaknesses, sub- > conscious forces at play in one's personality). > > Divisions above 36 show matters relating to the past karma (past > actions) of mother, father and native and they have a vital role in > deciding the results one gets in this life. Esp D-60 shows native's > past life. > > One will not only have to pay for one's own past sins, but also for > those of parents. The reverse holds for good deeds. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > vedic astrology, spyrikal@w... wrote: > > Hi, I have seen references that both of these charts show past life > activities, but what is their difference? Is the d-60 preferred over > the d-12? p.s. Something I was just wondering about, if you happen > to know, is kaala the same as kala and kalaa, and is preta the same > as preeta? Thanks, Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Hi, thank you Ron and Narasimha, that helps to clear things up a little bit, it makes things much more interesting too, I love learning about all that happiness vs sadness, phobias and their sources, I'm happy to know there's a chart to look at that will show that. Plus it helps to see the charts in groups like that, maybe since the d-12 is in the physical group, maybe did they mean by past influence it's more like the conditioning you get from moment to moment rather than life to life? Ron, thank you for defining those words to me, you even defined an extra one I wondered about too ~>prita Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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