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dear ron

well well well what do i see here. the assesment that

only two of the three dusthana lords can give vry. but

my dear freind vry is a rare yoga and very few have

it. the rule that the three dusthana lords should be

associated holds true. this is because i have seen

hundreds of charts where two dusthana lords being

associated with their counterparts and not giving vry.

raja yogas if manifested in full give extraordinary

results and ordinary mortals cannot claim to have

vry.

regards

partha sarathy

--- ron wrote:

> Om Krishna Guru

> ---------------

>

> Dear Partha and friends, Pranaam:

>

> With all due respect, I strongly disagree with your

> assessment below.

>

> Specifically on your wording:

>

> "vipareeta yoga is formed when all the three

> dusthana lords are

> connected to the dusthana other than those of their

> own"

>

> To re-iterate, it is *not* necessary for *all three

> dusthana* to be

> connected via aspects or conjoin or what have you.

>

> Two of the three dusthana lords in mutual

> relationship *already*

> triggers Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

>

> Perhaps respected Guruji(s) and experts will correct

> me if I am

> wrong.

>

> Unfortunately, until now; no one at this list has

> shown the eagerness

> or enthusiasm to go deep enough in the discussion

> regarding Vipareeta

> Raja Yoga that Doug Reimer and I started.

>

> I am thankful to Narasimha Ji for his reply on

> explaining the various

> yogas [formed by dusthana lords in their own

> house(s)]. However, his

> post, did not address the several combinations that

> can result in and

> from Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

>

> One can have a Vipareeta Raja Yoga [strong enough]

> and at the same

> time the above mentioned Yogas.

>

> For example, in my own chart [you can search it on

> this list], Venus

> in Taurus in 12th house of Rasi chart forms a Vimala

> [Pure] Yoga. But

> at the same time, Mars being in Taurus alongside

> Venus [and Mars

> being the lord of my 6th house] triggers a

> considerably strong

> Vipareeta Raja Yoga [already endorsed by Sanjay Rath

> Ji in one of his

> post; which was a reply to my post alongside my

> chart].

>

> Note: Venus + Mars shows a virile person [interested

> in sexual

> gratification etc], however even this rule is not

> *de-facto* [from

> personal experience].

>

> Perhaps, it is due to this Vimala Yoga, that I do

> not leave a topic

> unfinished or blindly follow any rules [even those

> of BPHS or Jamini

> Sutra]. I personally try to understand *WHY* the

> ancient Rhshis and

> Sages laid down the rules as they have. [Note: With

> all due respect,

> no offense meant to anyone].

>

> In my opinion...

>

> I asked a simple question and guidance from any who

> would volunteer:

>

> The question being -

>

> If Mercury is in 12th house [Gemini], and if rising

> is Cancer, will

> the 3rd house [Virgo - also co-lorded by Mercury ---

> and 3rd house

> also considered Dusthana] suffer?

>

> I see no takers to my question [except Doug Reimer].

> Do you?

>

> Furthermore on VRY...I have yet to see someone

> [except my own

> Diksha-Guru] explain the *Parivartana Yoga* INSIDE

> of a Vipareeta

> Raja Yoga alongside many other Yogas.

>

> Example [and let me select a complicated one]:

>

> 1) Rising [Ascendant] = Virgo

> 2) Saturn + Rahu = in Leo or 12th house

> 3) Sun + Ketu = in Aquarius or 6th house

> 4) Mars = in Aries or 8th house

> 4) Jupiter = in Sagittarius or 4th house

> 5) Moon + Venus = in Gemini or 10th house

> 5) Mercury = in Cancer or 11th house

>

> Of course...

>

> The above chart will have to be drawn by hand as the

> time-frame is

> unique. Also, the above chart is extremely

> complicated as there are

> several strong yogas in the chart [not just VRY or

> Parivartana]

>

> The above is *not* a chart of anyone I know. Simply

> that, such a

> configuration existed, will exist [in future] and

> someone [in human

> form] was born and will be born according to above

> configuration.

>

> Note: Mercury can *only* be one sign ahead, one sign

> behind, or in

> the same sign that Sun is.

>

> On the same count, Venus can *only* be two signs

> ahead, two signs

> behind or in the same sign that Sun is.

>

> I have taken extra precations to observe these rules

> in the chart

> illustrated above.

>

> End Note.

>

> Any takers to above? Many thanks in advance...

>

> With that...

>

> Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones

> ever and you all

> take care too.

>

> Special Note:

>

> I have received a barrage of private e-mails;

> ranging from people

> asking personal questions to concepts or theories or

> Jyotish.

>

> Please note that while I *never* turn anyone away or

> say no for that

> matter, *I am merely a humble shishya and not a

> Guru/Expert/Master*.

>

> While I will try my best to answer your e-mail(s),

> please allow me

> some time to respond. I am just an entrepreneur who

> is very

> interested in Jyotish and this is just my hobby and

> spiritual

> path-line.

>

> Many thanks for your kind attention.

>

> End Special Note.

>

> Om Namo Narayana

>

> Kind regards and best wishes,

>

> Ron

>

> vedic astrology, partha sarathy

> <partvinu5> wrote:

> > respected madam,

> > vipareeta yoga is formed when all the three

> dusthana

> > lords are connected to the dusthana other than

> those

> > of their own. viz 6th in 12th, 12th lord in 8th,

> 8th

> > lord in 6th. all the three conditions have to be

> > fulfilled. 6th in 6th gives harsha, 8th lord in

> 8th

> > gives sarala and 12th lord in 12th gives vimala

> yoga.

> >

> > regards

> > partha sarathy

> >

> > --- saraswathyvenkat@h... wrote:

> > > Respected List Members

> > >

> > > I have been following the posts on the vipareeta

> > > yoga and hope to get

> > > some guidance from you with regards to this. I

> am

> > > looking at a chart,

> > > date of birth 29 Nov 1970, Bombay at 7:50 am.

>

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Dear Doug,

 

I am thinking the effects can vary. But did Gates have

only vipareetha raja yoga? I think he has Lakshmi yoga

also if I remember some article in Star Teller.

 

Look for multiple yogas and also we need to check

2,5,9,10,11 for success in profession, speculation

etc.

 

I know in a chart where 6th and 12th lords are in 8th

causing vipareetha but this person is not having a job

though he has education. He also had mental problems

as this happened in Aries and afflicted Lagna lord.

There were other combinations like Moon was in 12th

afflicted by Kethu.

 

So IMHO, vipareetha yoga may not be the sole factor in

determining prosperity.

 

warm regards,

Balaji S.

 

 

 

 

 

--- Doug Riemer <vedic wrote:

> Is there a scholar or two out there who can cite the

> viparita rule?

>

> Partha's seems unduly strict, though all 3 dusthana

> lords would

> certainly create an undeniable upward force in the

> life. Bill Gates

> has only 2 dushtana rulers in dushtanas - as

> calculated from the

> Moon - and he is worth 50 billion dollars.

>

> And, I'm still concerned about the distinction of a

> dusthana lord in

> another dushtana being one variation and 2 or more

> dusthana lords in

> complete connection being the other variation.

>

> And still, we have the question of the 3rd being

> eligible to

> participate in a Viparita.

>

> Chakrapani Ullal stated a lecture there are various

> types of

> Viparitas - which include all that have been written

> about in this

> thread. Perhaps this is the answer? If so, a

> question then is what

> are the various results of the various types?

>

> doug riemer

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, partha sarathy

> <partvinu5> wrote:

> > dear ron

> > well well well what do i see here. the assesment

> that

> > only two of the three dusthana lords can give vry.

> but

> > my dear freind vry is a rare yoga and very few

> have

> > it. the rule that the three dusthana lords should

> be

> > associated holds true. this is because i have seen

> > hundreds of charts where two dusthana lords being

> > associated with their counterparts and not giving

> vry.

> > raja yogas if manifested in full give

> extraordinary

> > results and ordinary mortals cannot claim to have

> > vry.

> > regards

> > partha sarathy

> > --- ron@i... wrote:

> > > Om Krishna Guru

> > > ---------------

> > >

> > > Dear Partha and friends, Pranaam:

> > >

> > > With all due respect, I strongly disagree with

> your

> > > assessment below.

> > >

> > > Specifically on your wording:

> > >

> > > "vipareeta yoga is formed when all the three

> > > dusthana lords are

> > > connected to the dusthana other than those of

> their

> > > own"

> > >

> > > To re-iterate, it is *not* necessary for *all

> three

> > > dusthana* to be

> > > connected via aspects or conjoin or what have

> you.

> > >

> > > Two of the three dusthana lords in mutual

> > > relationship *already*

> > > triggers Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

> > >

> > > Perhaps respected Guruji(s) and experts will

> correct

> > > me if I am

> > > wrong.

> > >

> > > Unfortunately, until now; no one at this list

> has

> > > shown the eagerness

> > > or enthusiasm to go deep enough in the

> discussion

> > > regarding Vipareeta

> > > Raja Yoga that Doug Reimer and I started.

> > >

> > > I am thankful to Narasimha Ji for his reply on

> > > explaining the various

> > > yogas [formed by dusthana lords in their own

> > > house(s)]. However, his

> > > post, did not address the several combinations

> that

> > > can result in and

> > > from Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

> > >

> > > One can have a Vipareeta Raja Yoga [strong

> enough]

> > > and at the same

> > > time the above mentioned Yogas.

> > >

> > > For example, in my own chart [you can search it

> on

> > > this list], Venus

> > > in Taurus in 12th house of Rasi chart forms a

> Vimala

> > > [Pure] Yoga. But

> > > at the same time, Mars being in Taurus alongside

> > > Venus [and Mars

> > > being the lord of my 6th house] triggers a

> > > considerably strong

> > > Vipareeta Raja Yoga [already endorsed by Sanjay

> Rath

> > > Ji in one of his

> > > post; which was a reply to my post alongside my

> > > chart].

> > >

> > > Note: Venus + Mars shows a virile person

> [interested

> > > in sexual

> > > gratification etc], however even this rule is

> not

> > > *de-facto* [from

> > > personal experience].

> > >

> > > Perhaps, it is due to this Vimala Yoga, that I

> do

> > > not leave a topic

> > > unfinished or blindly follow any rules [even

> those

> > > of BPHS or Jamini

> > > Sutra]. I personally try to understand *WHY* the

> > > ancient Rhshis and

> > > Sages laid down the rules as they have. [Note:

> With

> > > all due respect,

> > > no offense meant to anyone].

> > >

> > > In my opinion...

> > >

> > > I asked a simple question and guidance from any

> who

> > > would volunteer:

> > >

> > > The question being -

> > >

> > > If Mercury is in 12th house [Gemini], and if

> rising

> > > is Cancer, will

> > > the 3rd house [Virgo - also co-lorded by Mercury

> ---

> > > and 3rd house

> > > also considered Dusthana] suffer?

> > >

> > > I see no takers to my question [except Doug

> Reimer].

> > > Do you?

> > >

> > > Furthermore on VRY...I have yet to see someone

> > > [except my own

> > > Diksha-Guru] explain the *Parivartana Yoga*

> INSIDE

> > > of a Vipareeta

> > > Raja Yoga alongside many other Yogas.

> > >

> > > Example [and let me select a complicated one]:

> > >

> > > 1) Rising [Ascendant] = Virgo

> > > 2) Saturn + Rahu = in Leo or 12th house

> > > 3) Sun + Ketu = in Aquarius or 6th house

> > > 4) Mars = in Aries or 8th house

> > > 4) Jupiter = in Sagittarius or 4th house

> > > 5) Moon + Venus = in Gemini or 10th house

> > > 5) Mercury = in Cancer or 11th house

> > >

> > > Of course...

> > >

> > > The above chart will have to be drawn by hand as

> the

> > > time-frame is

> > > unique. Also, the above chart is extremely

> > > complicated as there are

> > > several strong yogas in the chart [not just VRY

> or

> > > Parivartana]

> > >

> > > The above is *not* a chart of anyone I know.

> Simply

> > > that, such a

> > > configuration existed, will exist [in future]

> and

> > > someone [in human

> > > form] was born and will be born according to

> above

>

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dear doug,

your assesment is correct but what i have give for

vipareeta is correct. bill gates is rich because he

has great dhana yoga and not because of vipareeta.

regards

partha sarathy

--- Doug Riemer <vedic wrote:

> Is there a scholar or two out there who can cite the

> viparita rule?

>

> Partha's seems unduly strict, though all 3 dusthana

> lords would

> certainly create an undeniable upward force in the

> life. Bill Gates

> has only 2 dushtana rulers in dushtanas - as

> calculated from the

> Moon - and he is worth 50 billion dollars.

>

> And, I'm still concerned about the distinction of a

> dusthana lord in

> another dushtana being one variation and 2 or more

> dusthana lords in

> complete connection being the other variation.

>

> And still, we have the question of the 3rd being

> eligible to

> participate in a Viparita.

>

> Chakrapani Ullal stated a lecture there are various

> types of

> Viparitas - which include all that have been written

> about in this

> thread. Perhaps this is the answer? If so, a

> question then is what

> are the various results of the various types?

>

> doug riemer

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, partha sarathy

> <partvinu5> wrote:

> > dear ron

> > well well well what do i see here. the assesment

> that

> > only two of the three dusthana lords can give vry.

> but

> > my dear freind vry is a rare yoga and very few

> have

> > it. the rule that the three dusthana lords should

> be

> > associated holds true. this is because i have seen

> > hundreds of charts where two dusthana lords being

> > associated with their counterparts and not giving

> vry.

> > raja yogas if manifested in full give

> extraordinary

> > results and ordinary mortals cannot claim to have

> > vry.

> > regards

> > partha sarathy

> > --- ron@i... wrote:

> > > Om Krishna Guru

> > > ---------------

> > >

> > > Dear Partha and friends, Pranaam:

> > >

> > > With all due respect, I strongly disagree with

> your

> > > assessment below.

> > >

> > > Specifically on your wording:

> > >

> > > "vipareeta yoga is formed when all the three

> > > dusthana lords are

> > > connected to the dusthana other than those of

> their

> > > own"

> > >

> > > To re-iterate, it is *not* necessary for *all

> three

> > > dusthana* to be

> > > connected via aspects or conjoin or what have

> you.

> > >

> > > Two of the three dusthana lords in mutual

> > > relationship *already*

> > > triggers Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

> > >

> > > Perhaps respected Guruji(s) and experts will

> correct

> > > me if I am

> > > wrong.

> > >

> > > Unfortunately, until now; no one at this list

> has

> > > shown the eagerness

> > > or enthusiasm to go deep enough in the

> discussion

> > > regarding Vipareeta

> > > Raja Yoga that Doug Reimer and I started.

> > >

> > > I am thankful to Narasimha Ji for his reply on

> > > explaining the various

> > > yogas [formed by dusthana lords in their own

> > > house(s)]. However, his

> > > post, did not address the several combinations

> that

> > > can result in and

> > > from Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

> > >

> > > One can have a Vipareeta Raja Yoga [strong

> enough]

> > > and at the same

> > > time the above mentioned Yogas.

> > >

> > > For example, in my own chart [you can search it

> on

> > > this list], Venus

> > > in Taurus in 12th house of Rasi chart forms a

> Vimala

> > > [Pure] Yoga. But

> > > at the same time, Mars being in Taurus alongside

> > > Venus [and Mars

> > > being the lord of my 6th house] triggers a

> > > considerably strong

> > > Vipareeta Raja Yoga [already endorsed by Sanjay

> Rath

> > > Ji in one of his

> > > post; which was a reply to my post alongside my

> > > chart].

> > >

> > > Note: Venus + Mars shows a virile person

> [interested

> > > in sexual

> > > gratification etc], however even this rule is

> not

> > > *de-facto* [from

> > > personal experience].

> > >

> > > Perhaps, it is due to this Vimala Yoga, that I

> do

> > > not leave a topic

> > > unfinished or blindly follow any rules [even

> those

> > > of BPHS or Jamini

> > > Sutra]. I personally try to understand *WHY* the

> > > ancient Rhshis and

> > > Sages laid down the rules as they have. [Note:

> With

> > > all due respect,

> > > no offense meant to anyone].

> > >

> > > In my opinion...

> > >

> > > I asked a simple question and guidance from any

> who

> > > would volunteer:

> > >

> > > The question being -

> > >

> > > If Mercury is in 12th house [Gemini], and if

> rising

> > > is Cancer, will

> > > the 3rd house [Virgo - also co-lorded by Mercury

> ---

> > > and 3rd house

> > > also considered Dusthana] suffer?

> > >

> > > I see no takers to my question [except Doug

> Reimer].

> > > Do you?

> > >

> > > Furthermore on VRY...I have yet to see someone

> > > [except my own

> > > Diksha-Guru] explain the *Parivartana Yoga*

> INSIDE

> > > of a Vipareeta

> > > Raja Yoga alongside many other Yogas.

> > >

> > > Example [and let me select a complicated one]:

> > >

> > > 1) Rising [Ascendant] = Virgo

> > > 2) Saturn + Rahu = in Leo or 12th house

> > > 3) Sun + Ketu = in Aquarius or 6th house

> > > 4) Mars = in Aries or 8th house

> > > 4) Jupiter = in Sagittarius or 4th house

> > > 5) Moon + Venus = in Gemini or 10th house

> > > 5) Mercury = in Cancer or 11th house

> > >

> > > Of course...

> > >

> > > The above chart will have to be drawn by hand as

> the

> > > time-frame is

> > > unique. Also, the above chart is extremely

> > > complicated as there are

> > > several strong yogas in the chart [not just VRY

> or

> > > Parivartana]

> > >

> > > The above is *not* a chart of anyone I know.

> Simply

> > > that, such a

> > > configuration existed, will exist [in future]

> and

> > > someone [in human

> > > form] was born and will be born according to

> above

>

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dear balaji

vanakkam

you are right, i have been trying to drive home the

same point. i still do not understand how can there be

different vipareeta yogas when there is only one

variation.

partha sarathy

--- balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji wrote:

> Dear Doug,

>

> I am thinking the effects can vary. But did Gates

> have

> only vipareetha raja yoga? I think he has Lakshmi

> yoga

> also if I remember some article in Star Teller.

>

> Look for multiple yogas and also we need to check

> 2,5,9,10,11 for success in profession, speculation

> etc.

>

> I know in a chart where 6th and 12th lords are in

> 8th

> causing vipareetha but this person is not having a

> job

> though he has education. He also had mental problems

> as this happened in Aries and afflicted Lagna lord.

> There were other combinations like Moon was in 12th

> afflicted by Kethu.

>

> So IMHO, vipareetha yoga may not be the sole factor

> in

> determining prosperity.

>

> warm regards,

> Balaji S.

>

>

>

>

>

> --- Doug Riemer <vedic wrote:

> > Is there a scholar or two out there who can cite

> the

> > viparita rule?

> >

> > Partha's seems unduly strict, though all 3

> dusthana

> > lords would

> > certainly create an undeniable upward force in the

> > life. Bill Gates

> > has only 2 dushtana rulers in dushtanas - as

> > calculated from the

> > Moon - and he is worth 50 billion dollars.

> >

> > And, I'm still concerned about the distinction of

> a

> > dusthana lord in

> > another dushtana being one variation and 2 or more

> > dusthana lords in

> > complete connection being the other variation.

> >

> > And still, we have the question of the 3rd being

> > eligible to

> > participate in a Viparita.

> >

> > Chakrapani Ullal stated a lecture there are

> various

> > types of

> > Viparitas - which include all that have been

> written

> > about in this

> > thread. Perhaps this is the answer? If so, a

> > question then is what

> > are the various results of the various types?

> >

> > doug riemer

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, partha sarathy

> > <partvinu5> wrote:

> > > dear ron

> > > well well well what do i see here. the assesment

> > that

> > > only two of the three dusthana lords can give

> vry.

> > but

> > > my dear freind vry is a rare yoga and very few

> > have

> > > it. the rule that the three dusthana lords

> should

> > be

> > > associated holds true. this is because i have

> seen

> > > hundreds of charts where two dusthana lords

> being

> > > associated with their counterparts and not

> giving

> > vry.

> > > raja yogas if manifested in full give

> > extraordinary

> > > results and ordinary mortals cannot claim to

> have

> > > vry.

> > > regards

> > > partha sarathy

> > > --- ron@i... wrote:

> > > > Om Krishna Guru

> > > > ---------------

> > > >

> > > > Dear Partha and friends, Pranaam:

> > > >

> > > > With all due respect, I strongly disagree with

> > your

> > > > assessment below.

> > > >

> > > > Specifically on your wording:

> > > >

> > > > "vipareeta yoga is formed when all the three

> > > > dusthana lords are

> > > > connected to the dusthana other than those of

> > their

> > > > own"

> > > >

> > > > To re-iterate, it is *not* necessary for *all

> > three

> > > > dusthana* to be

> > > > connected via aspects or conjoin or what have

> > you.

> > > >

> > > > Two of the three dusthana lords in mutual

> > > > relationship *already*

> > > > triggers Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps respected Guruji(s) and experts will

> > correct

> > > > me if I am

> > > > wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Unfortunately, until now; no one at this list

> > has

> > > > shown the eagerness

> > > > or enthusiasm to go deep enough in the

> > discussion

> > > > regarding Vipareeta

> > > > Raja Yoga that Doug Reimer and I started.

> > > >

> > > > I am thankful to Narasimha Ji for his reply on

> > > > explaining the various

> > > > yogas [formed by dusthana lords in their own

> > > > house(s)]. However, his

> > > > post, did not address the several combinations

> > that

> > > > can result in and

> > > > from Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

> > > >

> > > > One can have a Vipareeta Raja Yoga [strong

> > enough]

> > > > and at the same

> > > > time the above mentioned Yogas.

> > > >

> > > > For example, in my own chart [you can search

> it

> > on

> > > > this list], Venus

> > > > in Taurus in 12th house of Rasi chart forms a

> > Vimala

> > > > [Pure] Yoga. But

> > > > at the same time, Mars being in Taurus

> alongside

> > > > Venus [and Mars

> > > > being the lord of my 6th house] triggers a

> > > > considerably strong

> > > > Vipareeta Raja Yoga [already endorsed by

> Sanjay

> > Rath

> > > > Ji in one of his

> > > > post; which was a reply to my post alongside

> my

> > > > chart].

> > > >

> > > > Note: Venus + Mars shows a virile person

> > [interested

> > > > in sexual

> > > > gratification etc], however even this rule is

> > not

> > > > *de-facto* [from

> > > > personal experience].

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps, it is due to this Vimala Yoga, that I

> > do

> > > > not leave a topic

> > > > unfinished or blindly follow any rules [even

> > those

> > > > of BPHS or Jamini

> > > > Sutra]. I personally try to understand *WHY*

> the

> > > > ancient Rhshis and

> > > > Sages laid down the rules as they have. [Note:

> > With

> > > > all due respect,

> > > > no offense meant to anyone].

> > > >

> > > > In my opinion...

> > > >

> > > > I asked a simple question and guidance from

> any

> > who

> > > > would volunteer:

>

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dear balaji

vanakkam

you are right, i have been trying to drive home the

same point. i still do not understand how can there be

different vipareeta yogas when there is only one

variation.

partha sarathy

--- balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji wrote:

> Dear Doug,

>

> I am thinking the effects can vary. But did Gates

> have

> only vipareetha raja yoga? I think he has Lakshmi

> yoga

> also if I remember some article in Star Teller.

>

> Look for multiple yogas and also we need to check

> 2,5,9,10,11 for success in profession, speculation

> etc.

>

> I know in a chart where 6th and 12th lords are in

> 8th

> causing vipareetha but this person is not having a

> job

> though he has education. He also had mental problems

> as this happened in Aries and afflicted Lagna lord.

> There were other combinations like Moon was in 12th

> afflicted by Kethu.

>

> So IMHO, vipareetha yoga may not be the sole factor

> in

> determining prosperity.

>

> warm regards,

> Balaji S.

>

>

>

>

>

> --- Doug Riemer <vedic wrote:

> > Is there a scholar or two out there who can cite

> the

> > viparita rule?

> >

> > Partha's seems unduly strict, though all 3

> dusthana

> > lords would

> > certainly create an undeniable upward force in the

> > life. Bill Gates

> > has only 2 dushtana rulers in dushtanas - as

> > calculated from the

> > Moon - and he is worth 50 billion dollars.

> >

> > And, I'm still concerned about the distinction of

> a

> > dusthana lord in

> > another dushtana being one variation and 2 or more

> > dusthana lords in

> > complete connection being the other variation.

> >

> > And still, we have the question of the 3rd being

> > eligible to

> > participate in a Viparita.

> >

> > Chakrapani Ullal stated a lecture there are

> various

> > types of

> > Viparitas - which include all that have been

> written

> > about in this

> > thread. Perhaps this is the answer? If so, a

> > question then is what

> > are the various results of the various types?

> >

> > doug riemer

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, partha sarathy

> > <partvinu5> wrote:

> > > dear ron

> > > well well well what do i see here. the assesment

> > that

> > > only two of the three dusthana lords can give

> vry.

> > but

> > > my dear freind vry is a rare yoga and very few

> > have

> > > it. the rule that the three dusthana lords

> should

> > be

> > > associated holds true. this is because i have

> seen

> > > hundreds of charts where two dusthana lords

> being

> > > associated with their counterparts and not

> giving

> > vry.

> > > raja yogas if manifested in full give

> > extraordinary

> > > results and ordinary mortals cannot claim to

> have

> > > vry.

> > > regards

> > > partha sarathy

> > > --- ron@i... wrote:

> > > > Om Krishna Guru

> > > > ---------------

> > > >

> > > > Dear Partha and friends, Pranaam:

> > > >

> > > > With all due respect, I strongly disagree with

> > your

> > > > assessment below.

> > > >

> > > > Specifically on your wording:

> > > >

> > > > "vipareeta yoga is formed when all the three

> > > > dusthana lords are

> > > > connected to the dusthana other than those of

> > their

> > > > own"

> > > >

> > > > To re-iterate, it is *not* necessary for *all

> > three

> > > > dusthana* to be

> > > > connected via aspects or conjoin or what have

> > you.

> > > >

> > > > Two of the three dusthana lords in mutual

> > > > relationship *already*

> > > > triggers Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps respected Guruji(s) and experts will

> > correct

> > > > me if I am

> > > > wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Unfortunately, until now; no one at this list

> > has

> > > > shown the eagerness

> > > > or enthusiasm to go deep enough in the

> > discussion

> > > > regarding Vipareeta

> > > > Raja Yoga that Doug Reimer and I started.

> > > >

> > > > I am thankful to Narasimha Ji for his reply on

> > > > explaining the various

> > > > yogas [formed by dusthana lords in their own

> > > > house(s)]. However, his

> > > > post, did not address the several combinations

> > that

> > > > can result in and

> > > > from Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

> > > >

> > > > One can have a Vipareeta Raja Yoga [strong

> > enough]

> > > > and at the same

> > > > time the above mentioned Yogas.

> > > >

> > > > For example, in my own chart [you can search

> it

> > on

> > > > this list], Venus

> > > > in Taurus in 12th house of Rasi chart forms a

> > Vimala

> > > > [Pure] Yoga. But

> > > > at the same time, Mars being in Taurus

> alongside

> > > > Venus [and Mars

> > > > being the lord of my 6th house] triggers a

> > > > considerably strong

> > > > Vipareeta Raja Yoga [already endorsed by

> Sanjay

> > Rath

> > > > Ji in one of his

> > > > post; which was a reply to my post alongside

> my

> > > > chart].

> > > >

> > > > Note: Venus + Mars shows a virile person

> > [interested

> > > > in sexual

> > > > gratification etc], however even this rule is

> > not

> > > > *de-facto* [from

> > > > personal experience].

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps, it is due to this Vimala Yoga, that I

> > do

> > > > not leave a topic

> > > > unfinished or blindly follow any rules [even

> > those

> > > > of BPHS or Jamini

> > > > Sutra]. I personally try to understand *WHY*

> the

> > > > ancient Rhshis and

> > > > Sages laid down the rules as they have. [Note:

> > With

> > > > all due respect,

> > > > no offense meant to anyone].

> > > >

> > > > In my opinion...

> > > >

> > > > I asked a simple question and guidance from

> any

> > who

> > > > would volunteer:

>

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