: vipareeta yoga - reply from partvinu to sarajit

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dear sarajit

i totally agree with you.i was actually applying

principles of sri.B.V.Raman. could saturn as third

lord in 8th, aspected by venus from 2nd who is sixth

lord give vry. could you please analyze my chart.

lagna: dhanu

time 8 30 am

place: delhi

date: 15 12 1976

warm regards

partha sarathy

--- Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp wrote:

> Hari Aum Tat Sat

> Dear Partha!

>

> There are some riders to the rules of VRY. When BV

> Raman said that VRY can

> be formed when a dusthana lord is in other dusthana,

> there is some truth in

> it. One can't ingore it outright. The riders are the

> even if the dusthana

> lords conjoin in any dusthana, they should be weak

> and if they are placed in

> Kendra they should be strongly placed. They should

> also have some connection

> with the Lagna/ atmakaraka to show their rise.

>

> However the overall strength of the horoscope and

> the strength of the Lagna,

> Sun and Moon determines, how much the person would

> rise. With VRY, a begger

> can also become the king of beggers, whereas a

> politician can become a chief

> minister.

>

> Regards

> Sarajit

>

>

> -

> "partha sarathy" <partvinu5

> <vedic astrology>

> Cc: <ron

> Wednesday, October 10, 2001 9:06 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: vipareeta yoga -

> reply from partvinu

>

>

> > dear ron

> > well well well what do i see here. the assesment

> that

> > only two of the three dusthana lords can give vry.

> but

> > my dear freind vry is a rare yoga and very few

> have

> > it. the rule that the three dusthana lords should

> be

> > associated holds true. this is because i have seen

> > hundreds of charts where two dusthana lords being

> > associated with their counterparts and not giving

> vry.

> > raja yogas if manifested in full give

> extraordinary

> > results and ordinary mortals cannot claim to have

> > vry.

> > regards

> > partha sarathy

> > --- ron wrote:

> > > Om Krishna Guru

> > > ---------------

> > >

> > > Dear Partha and friends, Pranaam:

> > >

> > > With all due respect, I strongly disagree with

> your

> > > assessment below.

> > >

> > > Specifically on your wording:

> > >

> > > "vipareeta yoga is formed when all the three

> > > dusthana lords are

> > > connected to the dusthana other than those of

> their

> > > own"

> > >

> > > To re-iterate, it is *not* necessary for *all

> three

> > > dusthana* to be

> > > connected via aspects or conjoin or what have

> you.

> > >

> > > Two of the three dusthana lords in mutual

> > > relationship *already*

> > > triggers Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

> > >

> > > Perhaps respected Guruji(s) and experts will

> correct

> > > me if I am

> > > wrong.

> > >

> > > Unfortunately, until now; no one at this list

> has

> > > shown the eagerness

> > > or enthusiasm to go deep enough in the

> discussion

> > > regarding Vipareeta

> > > Raja Yoga that Doug Reimer and I started.

> > >

> > > I am thankful to Narasimha Ji for his reply on

> > > explaining the various

> > > yogas [formed by dusthana lords in their own

> > > house(s)]. However, his

> > > post, did not address the several combinations

> that

> > > can result in and

> > > from Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

> > >

> > > One can have a Vipareeta Raja Yoga [strong

> enough]

> > > and at the same

> > > time the above mentioned Yogas.

> > >

> > > For example, in my own chart [you can search it

> on

> > > this list], Venus

> > > in Taurus in 12th house of Rasi chart forms a

> Vimala

> > > [Pure] Yoga. But

> > > at the same time, Mars being in Taurus alongside

> > > Venus [and Mars

> > > being the lord of my 6th house] triggers a

> > > considerably strong

> > > Vipareeta Raja Yoga [already endorsed by Sanjay

> Rath

> > > Ji in one of his

> > > post; which was a reply to my post alongside my

> > > chart].

> > >

> > > Note: Venus + Mars shows a virile person

> [interested

> > > in sexual

> > > gratification etc], however even this rule is

> not

> > > *de-facto* [from

> > > personal experience].

> > >

> > > Perhaps, it is due to this Vimala Yoga, that I

> do

> > > not leave a topic

> > > unfinished or blindly follow any rules [even

> those

> > > of BPHS or Jamini

> > > Sutra]. I personally try to understand *WHY* the

> > > ancient Rhshis and

> > > Sages laid down the rules as they have. [Note:

> With

> > > all due respect,

> > > no offense meant to anyone].

> > >

> > > In my opinion...

> > >

> > > I asked a simple question and guidance from any

> who

> > > would volunteer:

> > >

> > > The question being -

> > >

> > > If Mercury is in 12th house [Gemini], and if

> rising

> > > is Cancer, will

> > > the 3rd house [Virgo - also co-lorded by Mercury

> ---

> > > and 3rd house

> > > also considered Dusthana] suffer?

> > >

> > > I see no takers to my question [except Doug

> Reimer].

> > > Do you?

> > >

> > > Furthermore on VRY...I have yet to see someone

> > > [except my own

> > > Diksha-Guru] explain the *Parivartana Yoga*

> INSIDE

> > > of a Vipareeta

> > > Raja Yoga alongside many other Yogas.

> > >

> > > Example [and let me select a complicated one]:

> > >

> > > 1) Rising [Ascendant] = Virgo

> > > 2) Saturn + Rahu = in Leo or 12th house

> > > 3) Sun + Ketu = in Aquarius or 6th house

> > > 4) Mars = in Aries or 8th house

> > > 4) Jupiter = in Sagittarius or 4th house

> > > 5) Moon + Venus = in Gemini or 10th house

> > > 5) Mercury = in Cancer or 11th house

> > >

> > > Of course...

> > >

> > > The above chart will have to be drawn by hand as

> the

> > > time-frame is

> > > unique. Also, the above chart is extremely

> > > complicated as there are

> > > several strong yogas in the chart [not just VRY

> or

> > > Parivartana]

> > >

> > > The above is *not* a chart of anyone I know.

> Simply

> > > that, such a

> > > configuration existed, will exist [in future]

> and

> > > someone [in human

>

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