Guest guest Posted November 2, 2001 Report Share Posted November 2, 2001 Dear Earnst and Sanjiv, I second Sanjiv's query for an explanation of the reasoning behind Sun and Moon causing Mahapurusha Yoga to defunct. >From what I have understood is that Sun and Moon are Mahapurusha in itself. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash vedic astrology, "Sanjiv Aggarwal/CanWest/IBM" <sanjiv@c...> wrote: > > I have never read/heard about this criterion that you mention. Could you > please provide the source; thx. > > As well, any thoughts from senior members would be welcome..... I > personally don't understand the logic here. Sun/Moon considered the Royal > planets should increase the effects of Mahapurusha even more so if Moon is > participating in Gajakesari yoga...... (But then again there are some > yogas the results of which seem to defy logic.....) > > Best Regards, > > SA > > > "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> on 11/01/2001 12:37:08 AM > > Please respond to vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology> > cc: > [vedic astrology] Hitler, Mahapurusha Yogas, etc > > > Dear LIst Members, > > Ruchaka Yoga and other Mahapurusha Yogas like Bhadra, Hamsa, etc. are best > seen from the lagna, though a few sources of lesser authority take them > from > the Moon as well, in my opinion, however they should only be taken from the > lagna. The planet forming the Mahapurusha YOga should be in an angle from > the lagna, though there is some information out there that state in an > angle > or trine, though this is does not have any classical sanction that I am > aware of. > > If the Mahapurusha Yoga forming planet is joined with the SUn or Moon the > Yoga is cancelled, so in Hitler's chart he did not have Ruchaka Yoga since > Mars is with the Moon. The Mahapurusha Yogas are not dasa dependent, they > indicate lifelong charactistics with which the native furhters themselves > in > life with. Of course the dasa of a strong planet in an angle is generally a > promising dasa. > > I submit the birth chart with the following details: March 11, 1954 12:41 > PM, Richmond VA, 37n33, 77w28, EST +5.00 > > In this horoscope Jupiter, Mars and Saturn are all fomring thier respective > Mahapurusha Yogas, Hamsa, Ruchaka, and Sasa. Saturn is with the Sun so the > Sasa yoga is innefective, Mars is with the Moon so the Ruchaka Yoga is also > innefictive. Jupiter alone is forming a Mahapurusha Yoga and it is the > qualities of the Hamsa Yoga that are most marked in the native. > > Take Care, > Ernst Wilhelm > www.vedic-astrolology.net > > > - > "balaji srinivasan" <sri_balaji> > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:03 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: hitler > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > True, From Moon also we can look for Yogas. But > > Panchamahapurusha yogas are also taken from Lagna. > > > > Check the following site: > > > > http://astrologydirah.hypermart.net/yoga's.htm > > > > The Site even mentions Trikona positions and I am not > > knowing if that was appropriate. > > > > I think B.V.Raman mentioned about Hitler's Ruchaka > > yoga in his book on famous 'horoscopes'. > > > > Please note that I am not debating here. It is > > essential in the spirit of Jyotish to get these > > clarified. I can be wrong and I am not denying that. > > After all, I didn't go through the source of these > > yogas as I read only translations. > > > > Look at the main point - Raja yogas can't mean all > > goodness. It is important to have correct freewill. > > > > > > warm regards, > > Balaji S. > > > > > > --- partvinu5 wrote: > > > > > > dear balaji > > > i am not here for an academic debate. ruchaka yoga > > > is formed when > > > mars is in kendra from moon and is either exalted or > > > in own house. > > > now mars is in 5th from moon isn't it. that doesnot > > > qualify hitler to > > > have ruchaka yoga. as you must be knowing ruchaka > > > yoga is one of the > > > five pancha mahapurusha yogas. > > > namely > > > 1)sasa(saturn > > > 2)hamsa(jupiter > > > 3)malavya(venus > > > 4)ruchaka(mars > > > 5)bhadra(mercury > > > please verify. I am an ardent follower of Sri > > > B.V.Raman. he never > > > mentioned what you had said. > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan > > > <sri_balaji> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > Hitler according to B.V.Raman has Ruchaka yoga. > > > > Even assuming you are right, Raja yoga didn't help > > > > him. > > > > His free will was bad and he selected the destiny > > > that > > > > was violent. > > > > > > > > Mars should be in 7th which is Aries and this is > > > an > > > > example of Ruchaka yoga. You can say there is > > > Graha > > > > yuddha but still there is this yoga. He liked war, > > > > didn't he. He was cruel and he took the negative > > > trait > > > > of Mars. > > > > Guru is afflicted by Rahu and so is moon. Aries > > > has > > > > fiery grahas like Sun and Mars. I have seen such > > > > combinations give mental disorders in some cases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In every chart, there can be shades of > > > destruction. > > > > Free will has to be exercised to avoid and > > > minimize > > > > these traits. > > > > > > > > This is where 'Jitendriya' is the objective. I am > > > not > > > > one who can claim this. Great people like Hanuman, > > > > Mahaveera and other saints are to have had this > > > title. > > > > > > > > Even 8 Siddhi's can't help to control the mind. > > > That > > > > is why they are not cared for by the true > > > spiritual > > > > aspirants. > > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards, > > > > Balaji S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- partvinu5 wrote: > > > > > dear balaji > > > > > hitler was born in thula lagna with four planets > > > in > > > > > 7th house. > > > > > 3 planets namely jupiter , moon, rahu were in > > > 3rd > > > > > house. saturn is in > > > > > 10th house saving him from kalasarpa dosha. he > > > > > didn't have ruchaka > > > > > yoga. he became very famous due to gajakesari > > > yoga. > > > > > coupled with the > > > > > fact that jupiter is with rahu gave him > > > notorious > > > > > image. sun, > > > > > mercury, mars and venus in 7th gave him > > > > > psychological illness. > > > > > regards > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > > > > http://personals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Personals. > > http://personals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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