Guest guest Posted November 5, 2001 Report Share Posted November 5, 2001 Dear friends, I wrote in Nov 2000 based on simple Vimsottari dasa and transits: "If this theory is right, Ge transit of Jupiter (5th from natal Moon, 6 & 33 in ashtakavarga, raja (silver) murthi) should bring ups again from mid-2001 for this stock (PCTL)." in a post which can be read at (I quoted it below too) vedic astrology/message/5374 If one searches for symbol "PCTL" today, (s)he will get a message that this symbol is unknown. So I wanted to let you know what happened with PCTL. This company was once a market leader in commercial videoconferencing systems, but got in trouble during Jupiter's debilitation and never recovered. I wrote that Jupiter's Ge transit would prove good and things will improve from mid-2001. This company was acquired by a company called Polycom (PLCM on NASDAQ). Since the acquisition was announced in mid-2001, PCTL stock got tied to PLCM and both did pretty well. Finally, the acquisition was approved a week or two back and the symbol was taken off NASDAQ. The acquiring company Polycom is one of the better performers of today's slow market and it went from 19+ on Sept 10 to 33+ at close today (professional quality videoconferencing is apparently in demand due to the fall in business travel). Jupiter's Ge transit did indeed do good to PCTL. Of course, this is just a flash in the pan and I haven't worked with any other stock charts, for the lack of data and for the lack of time. I am by no means an expert in stock astrology. If you have the incorporation data or the first trading data of any listed stock, please send it to me. After I am done with "Jagannatha Hora" software, I will have time for some research. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha PS: I no longer work for the company. I left them just before the acquisition was announced. > Dear Denis, > > My jyotish-list mail you quoted is 3 years old. The account > therein is just a flash in the pan. I did track that stock > from 35 to 10 and I was accurate for 10 months, but my > model completely broke down after 10 months. > > You are right - if we make accurate predictions in stock > market, our subject will immediately get recognized. But, > honestly, I don't know of any good methods. I have wanted > to do some research in stock astrology, but have been busy. > > The stock I referred to in that mail is PCTL on NASDAQ. It > is the company I worked (and still work) for. When nobody > at my company expected it to go down, I predicted the exact > week in which it will go below 10 (from 35). > > At that time, I did not have any natal data and based my > prediction entirely on the basis of Jovian and Solar > transits, as I noted a correlation between the transits of > Jupiter and Sun and the stock price. > > I later obtained the data of the company going public. It > is: 13th Aug 1984, 9 am (EDT, 4:00), Andover, MA (71w08, > 42n40). New York City is the place of stock exchange. > > You can check 1996 and see that Sun's transit had a > big impact in the short run. You can also see some impact > of Jupiter's transit on the long-run component of stock. > > It makes a little sense with Vimsottari dasa. > > Jupiter dasa runs from 1986 to 2002. Jupiter in Sg (11th > from natal Moon and 7 & 36 in ashtakavarga) brought the > peak and stock split. Debilitated Jupiter in 12th brought > a big fall from 35 to 10. I expected Jupiter in Pi to > bring ups again, but Pi has only 19 rekhas in SAV and > Jupiter was a Taamra murthi (copper form) in Pi transit. > Stock didn't do well. Jupiter in 4th now has 5 & 31 > rekhas in AV and yet he is a loha murthi (iron) and there > are some gains. > > If this theory is right, Ge transit of Jupiter (5th from > natal Moon, 6 & 33 in ashtakavarga, raja (silver) murthi) > should bring ups again from mid-2001 for this stock (PCTL). > > What is surprising is that Sun antardasa starts in late > 1997. But I noted Sun's transit to be significant in 1996 > and my predictions based on solar transit started going > awry after the debilitated Jupiter's long-term change > curve stabilized. Perhaps the paramayush of a company > should be 108 instead of 120. (Why?) > > In summary, my predictions were arbitrary and based on > some transits. They were right for a few months, but > went awry later. After I got the natal chart, it makes > some sense but not fully. If I have some time, I would > love to do some more research. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > vedic astrology , Denis Labouré <Laboure@W...> > wrote: > > Dear Narashima, > > > > This is a message you sent a long time ago to the Jyotish-list. > There is > > plenty of infos about financial astrology in the american > publications, > > but all of them use western astrology. Where is it possible to find > > infos about financial astrology using jyotish? This mixture of > money and > > astrology is perhaps ambigous. However, it is the best way to make > our > > art recognized. The secular (scientific and cultural) world tries to > > destroy astrology through speculative arguments. The financial > world is > > only interested by results. It is so powerfull he could have the > last > > word. > > > > What chart did you use? The foundation of the company? The first > > cotation in the stock market? > > > > Thanks a lot > > Denis > > > > Narasimha Rao a écrit : > > > > > > In last October, I ran into a stock chart that was displyed on a > friend's > > > PC. I knew nothing about stock market, but I found a pattern in > that curve > > > immediately. The two lowest points in the curve corresponded to > Sun's > > > conjunction with Ketu and Sun's transit in the 3rd quarter of > Swathi > > > constellation (13Li20-16Li39). The two highest points in the curve > > > corresponded to Sun's transits in the first quarters of > Uttarashadha > > > (26Sg40-29Sg59) and Krittika (26Ar40-29Ar59). This made me very > curious and > > > I studied the correlations between planetary movements and the > value of > > > that particular stock. After studying the five-year curve of the > stock, I > > > concluded that Jupiter and Sun affect the long-term and short- > term drifts > > > in the curve, respectively. I found that their rasi, > constellation, navamsa > > > and dasamsa mattered the most, along with their Tajaka system > aspects and > > > yogas with other planets, especially their > rasi/constellation/navamsa > > > lords. > > > > > > I didn't know when the company was founded or when it went public > and had > > > no "natal" data of any kind. With my understanding of > the "dynamic" > > > correlations, I made an experimental prediction of that stock for > Nov 1996. > > > My friends were amazed when it all came true (that stock > fluctuates a lot > > > and they were amazed that I captured all the fluctuations so > accurately!). > > > Enthused by this, I made more predictions for the first half of > 1997. I was > > > fairly accurate and actually a few friends made money with those > > > predictions. > > > > > > I predicted in Nov 1996 that that stock (which was in mid-30s > then) would > > > plumb to below 10 by the first week of April 1997. They first > didn't > > > believe me, but when it dropped to mid-20s by Jan 15, they gained > > > confidence and they bought some 'put' options. On April 3, that > stock > > > reached 8.25! They all made money. I didn't invest though. With > Saturn in > > > 2nd, retrograde Jupiter in 12th and Rahu in 8th (all from my > natal Moon), > > > with the Vimsottari antardasa of the planet in my 12th house > running and > > > with several bad yogas in my Tajaka annual chart, I figured I > would only > > > suffer a loss. > > > > > > Busy with other things, I suspended this activity in Spring 1997 > and I am > > > thinking of continuing this research work now. I was wondering if > anybody > > > on this mailing list worked before on correlations between > crisply (or even > > > fuzzily) measurable functions of planetary positions defined in > Jyotish and > > > movement of any particular stock and, if so, if they could share > some > > > knowledge with me. 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Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 Hare Rama Krsna Dear Narasimha! It would be really nice to show the validity of Astrology through Stock-market predictions. If Rational Mind want identifiable result, let it be, we will be equipped with that too. I have a few doubts here. The ups and downs in the maket can be product based, such as sometime when the significator of a product is strong in transit or otherwise auspicious, the product might show bullish trend. However, in reality do we have such things happening. If lets say Video-conferencing devices stocks are rising, is it rising everywhere or for all companies producing such products? I don't have much knowledge, however I would presume it to be know. A trend can only be identified, however that cannot be exact... I hope the incorporation chart of the company would help here, Seeing the growth or otherwise using the Narayana Dasa system and many more. IMHO, the natal chart can show the extent of progress or otherwise and D-1, D-9, D-27, D-10, D-6, D-11 amd D-30 can show both the bright as well as the dark side of the picture. Just to share my thoughts. I would also be interested in this research... Wish you all the best Regards Sarajit - <pvr <vedic astrology> Tuesday, November 06, 2001 5:13 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish and Stock Market > Dear friends, > > I wrote in Nov 2000 based on simple Vimsottari dasa and transits: > > "If this theory is right, Ge transit of Jupiter (5th from natal Moon, > 6 & 33 in ashtakavarga, raja (silver) murthi) should bring ups again > from mid-2001 for this stock (PCTL)." > > in a post which can be read at (I quoted it below too) > > vedic astrology/message/5374 > > If one searches for symbol "PCTL" today, (s)he will get a message > that this symbol is unknown. So I wanted to let you know what > happened with PCTL. > > This company was once a market leader in commercial videoconferencing > systems, but got in trouble during Jupiter's debilitation and never > recovered. I wrote that Jupiter's Ge transit would prove good and > things will improve from mid-2001. > > This company was acquired by a company called Polycom (PLCM on > NASDAQ). Since the acquisition was announced in mid-2001, PCTL stock > got tied to PLCM and both did pretty well. Finally, the acquisition > was approved a week or two back and the symbol was taken off NASDAQ. > The acquiring company Polycom is one of the better performers of > today's slow market and it went from 19+ on Sept 10 to 33+ at close > today (professional quality videoconferencing is apparently in demand > due to the fall in business travel). Jupiter's Ge transit did indeed > do good to PCTL. > > Of course, this is just a flash in the pan and I haven't worked with > any other stock charts, for the lack of data and for the lack of > time. I am by no means an expert in stock astrology. > > If you have the incorporation data or the first trading data of any > listed stock, please send it to me. After I am done with "Jagannatha > Hora" software, I will have time for some research. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > PS: I no longer work for the company. I left them just before the > acquisition was announced. > > > Dear Denis, > > > > My jyotish-list mail you quoted is 3 years old. The account > > therein is just a flash in the pan. I did track that stock > > from 35 to 10 and I was accurate for 10 months, but my > > model completely broke down after 10 months. > > > > You are right - if we make accurate predictions in stock > > market, our subject will immediately get recognized. But, > > honestly, I don't know of any good methods. I have wanted > > to do some research in stock astrology, but have been busy. > > > > The stock I referred to in that mail is PCTL on NASDAQ. It > > is the company I worked (and still work) for. When nobody > > at my company expected it to go down, I predicted the exact > > week in which it will go below 10 (from 35). > > > > At that time, I did not have any natal data and based my > > prediction entirely on the basis of Jovian and Solar > > transits, as I noted a correlation between the transits of > > Jupiter and Sun and the stock price. > > > > I later obtained the data of the company going public. It > > is: 13th Aug 1984, 9 am (EDT, 4:00), Andover, MA (71w08, > > 42n40). New York City is the place of stock exchange. > > > > You can check 1996 and see that Sun's transit had a > > big impact in the short run. You can also see some impact > > of Jupiter's transit on the long-run component of stock. > > > > It makes a little sense with Vimsottari dasa. > > > > Jupiter dasa runs from 1986 to 2002. Jupiter in Sg (11th > > from natal Moon and 7 & 36 in ashtakavarga) brought the > > peak and stock split. Debilitated Jupiter in 12th brought > > a big fall from 35 to 10. I expected Jupiter in Pi to > > bring ups again, but Pi has only 19 rekhas in SAV and > > Jupiter was a Taamra murthi (copper form) in Pi transit. > > Stock didn't do well. Jupiter in 4th now has 5 & 31 > > rekhas in AV and yet he is a loha murthi (iron) and there > > are some gains. > > > > If this theory is right, Ge transit of Jupiter (5th from > > natal Moon, 6 & 33 in ashtakavarga, raja (silver) murthi) > > should bring ups again from mid-2001 for this stock (PCTL). > > > > What is surprising is that Sun antardasa starts in late > > 1997. But I noted Sun's transit to be significant in 1996 > > and my predictions based on solar transit started going > > awry after the debilitated Jupiter's long-term change > > curve stabilized. Perhaps the paramayush of a company > > should be 108 instead of 120. (Why?) > > > > In summary, my predictions were arbitrary and based on > > some transits. They were right for a few months, but > > went awry later. After I got the natal chart, it makes > > some sense but not fully. If I have some time, I would > > love to do some more research. > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > > > vedic astrology , Denis Labouré <Laboure@W...> > > wrote: > > > Dear Narashima, > > > > > > This is a message you sent a long time ago to the Jyotish-list. > > There is > > > plenty of infos about financial astrology in the american > > publications, > > > but all of them use western astrology. Where is it possible to > find > > > infos about financial astrology using jyotish? This mixture of > > money and > > > astrology is perhaps ambigous. However, it is the best way to > make > > our > > > art recognized. The secular (scientific and cultural) world tries > to > > > destroy astrology through speculative arguments. The financial > > world is > > > only interested by results. It is so powerfull he could have the > > last > > > word. > > > > > > What chart did you use? The foundation of the company? The first > > > cotation in the stock market? > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > Denis > > > > > > Narasimha Rao a écrit : > > > > > > > > In last October, I ran into a stock chart that was displyed on > a > > friend's > > > > PC. I knew nothing about stock market, but I found a pattern in > > that curve > > > > immediately. The two lowest points in the curve corresponded to > > Sun's > > > > conjunction with Ketu and Sun's transit in the 3rd quarter of > > Swathi > > > > constellation (13Li20-16Li39). The two highest points in the > curve > > > > corresponded to Sun's transits in the first quarters of > > Uttarashadha > > > > (26Sg40-29Sg59) and Krittika (26Ar40-29Ar59). This made me very > > curious and > > > > I studied the correlations between planetary movements and the > > value of > > > > that particular stock. After studying the five-year curve of > the > > stock, I > > > > concluded that Jupiter and Sun affect the long-term and short- > > term drifts > > > > in the curve, respectively. I found that their rasi, > > constellation, navamsa > > > > and dasamsa mattered the most, along with their Tajaka system > > aspects and > > > > yogas with other planets, especially their > > rasi/constellation/navamsa > > > > lords. > > > > > > > > I didn't know when the company was founded or when it went > public > > and had > > > > no "natal" data of any kind. With my understanding of > > the "dynamic" > > > > correlations, I made an experimental prediction of that stock > for > > Nov 1996. > > > > My friends were amazed when it all came true (that stock > > fluctuates a lot > > > > and they were amazed that I captured all the fluctuations so > > accurately!). > > > > Enthused by this, I made more predictions for the first half of > > 1997. I was > > > > fairly accurate and actually a few friends made money with those > > > > predictions. > > > > > > > > I predicted in Nov 1996 that that stock (which was in mid-30s > > then) would > > > > plumb to below 10 by the first week of April 1997. They first > > didn't > > > > believe me, but when it dropped to mid-20s by Jan 15, they > gained > > > > confidence and they bought some 'put' options. On April 3, that > > stock > > > > reached 8.25! They all made money. I didn't invest though. With > > Saturn in > > > > 2nd, retrograde Jupiter in 12th and Rahu in 8th (all from my > > natal Moon), > > > > with the Vimsottari antardasa of the planet in my 12th house > > running and > > > > with several bad yogas in my Tajaka annual chart, I figured I > > would only > > > > suffer a loss. > > > > > > > > Busy with other things, I suspended this activity in Spring > 1997 > > and I am > > > > thinking of continuing this research work now. I was wondering > if > > anybody > > > > on this mailing list worked before on correlations between > > crisply (or even > > > > fuzzily) measurable functions of planetary positions defined in > > Jyotish and > > > > movement of any particular stock and, if so, if they could > share > > some > > > > knowledge with me. > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Dear Narasimha, You wrote: "- <pvr <vedic astrology> Monday, November 05, 2001 11:43 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish and Stock Market If you have the incorporation data or the first trading data of any listed stock, please send it to me. After I am done with "Jagannatha Hora" software, I will have time for some research." I don't have any particular trading data to supply to you for your research but you might be interested in a prediction made by Richard Houck, a very reputable astrologer who unfortunately died a few months ago, regarding the state of the stock market early next year. He said that there would be a big stock market crash on 26 January 2002 when Uranus enters permanently in Aquarius. He had noted that in the past, Uranus ingresses often coincided with major market moves, especially drops. I know that Uranus is not normally considered in Jyotish but do you have any views on what might happen, maybe using other parameters? Namaste Dany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2001 Report Share Posted November 28, 2001 Dear Danielle Rose, I have a very good collection of Jyotish books on market forecasting. Sarvatobhadra Chakra technique is very good for such studies. Uranus, Neptune and Pluto too have been linked with market fluctuations in these books. Some company's incorporation data is given in these books. Rare Books on Market/Price Forecasting:- Xerox, spiral bound copy could be available:- 1. Sarvatobhadra Chakra (1962) By N.N. Krishna Rau, V. B. Choudhari. $20.00 2. Sarvatobhadra Charkra (Hindi) By Motilal Nagar, Delhi. $20.00 3. 'Planetary Influences on Markets by Mars, Revised by N.L. Patel' $20.00. 4. Market Forecasting' by Fakir Chandra Dutt, published sometime around 1945. The author is well known for his other works like 'Prenatal Astrology'. $20.00 5. Perpetual Market Forecast & Business Astrology (1955) Pt. Ganga Prasad, Shree Mahalaxmi Publications, Morar, M.P. (out of Print) Xerox, spiral bound $20/- 6. Commercial Ever Ready Numerology (Best Application of Numbers to forecast market prices, & winners in Lotteries, Horse Racing etc.) is by Pt. Ganga Prasad, Shree Mahalaxmi Publications, Morar (M.P.).$14.00 Printed Books:- 7. Vedic Astrology in Money Matters -P K Vasudev'. $25.00 8. Planets in Orbit By Mahendra Pratap Singh, Varanasi. $20.00 (2nd edition, printed) 9. Mystics of Sarvatobhadra Chakra and Astrological Predictions by M K Agarwal $12.00 PVN did order few such books in Sept., this year and he may come out with his own important observations. Best wishes, Shiv Chadha www.vedicweb.com/Manorama.htm - Danielle Rose vedic astrology Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:21 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish and Stock Market Dear Narasimha,You wrote:"-<pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>To: <vedic astrology>Monday, November 05, 2001 11:43 PM[vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish and Stock MarketIf you have the incorporation data or the first trading data of anylisted stock, please send it to me. After I am done with "JagannathaHora" software, I will have time for some research."I don't have any particular trading data to supply to you for your researchbut you might be interested in a prediction made by Richard Houck, a veryreputable astrologer who unfortunately died a few months ago, regarding thestate of the stock market early next year.He said that there would be a big stock market crash on 26 January 2002 whenUranus enters permanently in Aquarius. He had noted that in the past,Uranus ingresses often coincided with major market moves, especially drops.I know that Uranus is not normally considered in Jyotish but do you have anyviews on what might happen, maybe using other parameters?NamasteDanyArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2001 Report Share Posted December 5, 2001 Dear Shiv Chadha Thank you very much for your e-mail. I already have some of the books you mention but I am keeping your details on records in case I decide to buy some more. Best regards D. Rose ---- Original Message ----- sk vedic astrology Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:03 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish and Stock Market Dear Danielle Rose, I have a very good collection of Jyotish books on market forecasting. Sarvatobhadra Chakra technique is very good for such studies. Uranus, Neptune and Pluto too have been linked with market fluctuations in these books. Some company's incorporation data is given in these books. Group info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Terms of Service. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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