Guest guest Posted November 5, 2001 Report Share Posted November 5, 2001 dear L brahma even for libra and taurus ascendants saturn should be well placed. he should not be afflicted and badly placed! though i must confess that for libra and taurus ascendants saturn does less harm than other ascendants as saturn is a great friend of venus, the lagna lord for libra nad taurus ascendants. regards partha vedic astrology, "lakshman jagannath" <lbrahma@h...> wrote: > Hi Partha, > As Sa is a RYK for Taurus and Libra ascendants could you also explain > somthing as regards to the 71/2 years (saade saathi) effects (Transit > effects). will they be different or will be same as regards other > ascendants.? > > Thanks and with best regards > > L Brahma > > > > > >partvinu5 > >vedic astrology > >vedic astrology > >[vedic astrology] SATURN (Article) > >Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:11:59 -0000 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >X-Originating-IP: 203.90.93.84 > >Received: from [216.115.96.68] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > >MHotMailBDAD36F6005740043155D8736044DD38221; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 05:13:45 > >-0800 > >Received: from [10.1.1.221] by n18. with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2001 > >13:12:05 -0000 > >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 -0000 > >Received: (qmail 64892 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 - 0000 > >Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m3.grp.snv. with QMQP; > >3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 -0000 > >Received: from unknown (HELO n24.) (216.115.96.74) by > >mta3.grp.snv. with SMTP; 3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 -0000 > >Received: from [10.1.10.66] by n24. with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2001 > >13:12:01 -0000 > >From sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma Sat, 03 Nov 2001 05:15:05 -0800 > >X-eGroups-Return: > >sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma=hotmail.com@r... > >X-Sender: partvinu5 > >X-Apparently-vedic astrology > >X-eGroups-Return: partvinu5 > >Message-ID: <9s0qev+fb36@e...> > >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 > >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster > >X--Profile: partvinu5 > >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; contact > >vedic astrology-owner > >Delivered-mailing list vedic astrology > >Precedence: bulk > >List-Un: <vedic astrology-> > > > >The subject which i am discussing today has been discussed already > >many atimes by eminent astrologers and pundits. > > But i feel there is a lot of research yet to be done on the role of > >saturn in the realms of mundane astrology. Saturn is the planet who > >evokes awe and fear by laymen for vvarious reasons. Saturn is a > >planet of separative nergy. He is the planet of del;ays and > >frustration. > >Saturn is much maligned but one should not forget that he is a great > >spiritual teacher. He has the great prowess to unlock the mysteries > >of life's purpose. THose souls who run after materialistic lifes are > >given from time to tiem lessons by saturn which make them go towards > >a path of renunciation and attainment of nirvana. > >Saturn placed in differnt houses for different lagnas gives differnt > >results. > >He is a great benific for the taurus and libra ascendant natives. His > >placement in kendras and konas gives tremendous results if it is also > >placed in shubha vargas. > >For simha and kataka lagna natives saturn gives a lot of trouble due > >to his lordship. Some authors oppine that saturn in 3rd, 6th and 11th > >house is good and gives good results. But he gives troubles during > >travel, service and dealings due to the same placements. > >Saturn is a planet of rigor and research. He is the chief karaka for > >bondage, toiling, hardwork, law, farming, engineering, construction > >etc. > >Saturn gives tears and subsequent joy. He if placed in karma sthana > >can mean rise and fall which is unexpected and swift. > >In 7th he can give a wife who at least looks older to the native. > >In 8th he gives trouble to finances and makes the native suffer for > >his past karma. > >I would explain any queries related to this article. > > > > may god bless you all > >Regards > >partha > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! ------- Dear Partha & Brahma, Actually Saturn in 12th for Taurus/Libra Lagna is a great blessing. It gives Vipareet Raja Yoga of a high order, especially for Taurus Lagna. Best wishes, Visti. p.s. Dear Partha, make sure you get some good rest, before enduring in the heavy issues on the list. --- partvinu5 wrote: > > dear L brahma > even for libra and taurus ascendants saturn should > be well placed. he > should not be afflicted and badly placed! > though i must confess that for libra and taurus > ascendants saturn > does less harm than other ascendants as saturn is a > great friend of > venus, the lagna lord for libra nad taurus > ascendants. > regards > partha > > vedic astrology, "lakshman jagannath" > <lbrahma@h...> > wrote: > > Hi Partha, > > As Sa is a RYK for Taurus and Libra ascendants > could you also > explain > > somthing as regards to the 71/2 years (saade > saathi) effects > (Transit > > effects). will they be different or will be same > as regards other > > ascendants.? > > > > Thanks and with best regards > > > > L Brahma > > > > > > > > > > >partvinu5 > > >vedic astrology > > >vedic astrology > > >[vedic astrology] SATURN (Article) > > >Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:11:59 -0000 > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >X-Originating-IP: 203.90.93.84 > > >Received: from [216.115.96.68] by hotmail.com > (3.2) with ESMTP id > > >MHotMailBDAD36F6005740043155D8736044DD38221; Sat, > 03 Nov 2001 > 05:13:45 > > >-0800 > > >Received: from [10.1.1.221] by > n18. with NNFMP; 03 > Nov 2001 > > >13:12:05 -0000 > > >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 3 Nov 2001 > 13:12:01 -0000 > > >Received: (qmail 64892 invoked from network); 3 > Nov 2001 13:12:01 - > 0000 > > >Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by > m3.grp.snv. > with QMQP; > > >3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 -0000 > > >Received: from unknown (HELO > n24.) > (216.115.96.74) by > > >mta3.grp.snv. with SMTP; 3 Nov 2001 > 13:12:01 -0000 > > >Received: from [10.1.10.66] by > n24. with NNFMP; 03 > Nov 2001 > > >13:12:01 -0000 > > >From sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma Sat, > 03 Nov 2001 > 05:15:05 -0800 > > >X-eGroups-Return: > > > >sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma=hotmail.com@r... > > >X-Sender: partvinu5 > > >X-Apparently-vedic astrology > > >X-eGroups-Return: partvinu5 > > >Message-ID: <9s0qev+fb36@e...> > > >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 > > >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster > > >X--Profile: partvinu5 > > >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; contact > > >vedic astrology-owner > > >Delivered-mailing list vedic astrology > > >Precedence: bulk > > >List-Un: > <vedic astrology-> > > > > > >The subject which i am discussing today has been > discussed already > > >many atimes by eminent astrologers and pundits. > > > But i feel there is a lot of research yet to be > done on the role > of > > >saturn in the realms of mundane astrology. Saturn > is the planet who > > >evokes awe and fear by laymen for vvarious > reasons. Saturn is a > > >planet of separative nergy. He is the planet of > del;ays and > > >frustration. > > >Saturn is much maligned but one should not forget > that he is a > great > > >spiritual teacher. He has the great prowess to > unlock the mysteries > > >of life's purpose. THose souls who run after > materialistic lifes > are > > >given from time to tiem lessons by saturn which > make them go > towards > > >a path of renunciation and attainment of nirvana. > > >Saturn placed in differnt houses for different > lagnas gives > differnt > > >results. > > >He is a great benific for the taurus and libra > ascendant natives. > His > > >placement in kendras and konas gives tremendous > results if it is > also > > >placed in shubha vargas. > > >For simha and kataka lagna natives saturn gives a > lot of trouble > due > > >to his lordship. Some authors oppine that saturn > in 3rd, 6th and > 11th > > >house is good and gives good results. But he > gives troubles during > > >travel, service and dealings due to the same > placements. > > >Saturn is a planet of rigor and research. He is > the chief karaka > for > > >bondage, toiling, hardwork, law, farming, > engineering, construction > > >etc. > > >Saturn gives tears and subsequent joy. He if > placed in karma sthana > > >can mean rise and fall which is unexpected and > swift. > > >In 7th he can give a wife who at least looks > older to the native. > > >In 8th he gives trouble to finances and makes the > native suffer for > > >his past karma. > > >I would explain any queries related to this > article. > > > > > > may god bless you all > > >Regards > > >partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > Find a job, post your resume. http://careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 Hare Rama Krsna Dear Partha and others! As Visti mentioned, if Saturn is placed in an dusthana, being a yogakaraka (for some lagnas), not conjoining any other planet, a strong VRY results. Regards Sarajit - "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream <vedic astrology> Tuesday, November 06, 2001 1:41 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: SATURN (Article)(dear L Brahma) > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > ------- > Dear Partha & Brahma, > Actually Saturn in 12th for Taurus/Libra Lagna is a > great blessing. It gives Vipareet Raja Yoga of a high > order, especially for Taurus Lagna. > > Best wishes, Visti. > p.s. Dear Partha, make sure you get some good rest, > before enduring in the heavy issues on the list. > > --- partvinu5 wrote: > > > > dear L brahma > > even for libra and taurus ascendants saturn should > > be well placed. he > > should not be afflicted and badly placed! > > though i must confess that for libra and taurus > > ascendants saturn > > does less harm than other ascendants as saturn is a > > great friend of > > venus, the lagna lord for libra nad taurus > > ascendants. > > regards > > partha > > > > vedic astrology, "lakshman jagannath" > > <lbrahma@h...> > > wrote: > > > Hi Partha, > > > As Sa is a RYK for Taurus and Libra ascendants > > could you also > > explain > > > somthing as regards to the 71/2 years (saade > > saathi) effects > > (Transit > > > effects). will they be different or will be same > > as regards other > > > ascendants.? > > > > > > Thanks and with best regards > > > > > > L Brahma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >partvinu5 > > > >vedic astrology > > > >vedic astrology > > > >[vedic astrology] SATURN (Article) > > > >Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:11:59 -0000 > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > >X-Originating-IP: 203.90.93.84 > > > >Received: from [216.115.96.68] by hotmail.com > > (3.2) with ESMTP id > > > >MHotMailBDAD36F6005740043155D8736044DD38221; Sat, > > 03 Nov 2001 > > 05:13:45 > > > >-0800 > > > >Received: from [10.1.1.221] by > > n18. with NNFMP; 03 > > Nov 2001 > > > >13:12:05 -0000 > > > >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 3 Nov 2001 > > 13:12:01 -0000 > > > >Received: (qmail 64892 invoked from network); 3 > > Nov 2001 13:12:01 - > > 0000 > > > >Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by > > m3.grp.snv. > > with QMQP; > > > >3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 -0000 > > > >Received: from unknown (HELO > > n24.) > > (216.115.96.74) by > > > >mta3.grp.snv. with SMTP; 3 Nov 2001 > > 13:12:01 -0000 > > > >Received: from [10.1.10.66] by > > n24. with NNFMP; 03 > > Nov 2001 > > > >13:12:01 -0000 > > > >From sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma Sat, > > 03 Nov 2001 > > 05:15:05 -0800 > > > >X-eGroups-Return: > > > > > > >sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma=hotmail.com@r... > > > >X-Sender: partvinu5 > > > >X-Apparently-vedic astrology > > > >X-eGroups-Return: partvinu5 > > > >Message-ID: <9s0qev+fb36@e...> > > > >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 > > > >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster > > > >X--Profile: partvinu5 > > > >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; contact > > > >vedic astrology-owner > > > >Delivered-mailing list vedic astrology > > > >Precedence: bulk > > > >List-Un: > > <vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > >The subject which i am discussing today has been > > discussed already > > > >many atimes by eminent astrologers and pundits. > > > > But i feel there is a lot of research yet to be > > done on the role > > of > > > >saturn in the realms of mundane astrology. Saturn > > is the planet who > > > >evokes awe and fear by laymen for vvarious > > reasons. Saturn is a > > > >planet of separative nergy. He is the planet of > > del;ays and > > > >frustration. > > > >Saturn is much maligned but one should not forget > > that he is a > > great > > > >spiritual teacher. He has the great prowess to > > unlock the mysteries > > > >of life's purpose. THose souls who run after > > materialistic lifes > > are > > > >given from time to tiem lessons by saturn which > > make them go > > towards > > > >a path of renunciation and attainment of nirvana. > > > >Saturn placed in differnt houses for different > > lagnas gives > > differnt > > > >results. > > > >He is a great benific for the taurus and libra > > ascendant natives. > > His > > > >placement in kendras and konas gives tremendous > > results if it is > > also > > > >placed in shubha vargas. > > > >For simha and kataka lagna natives saturn gives a > > lot of trouble > > due > > > >to his lordship. Some authors oppine that saturn > > in 3rd, 6th and > > 11th > > > >house is good and gives good results. But he > > gives troubles during > > > >travel, service and dealings due to the same > > placements. > > > >Saturn is a planet of rigor and research. He is > > the chief karaka > > for > > > >bondage, toiling, hardwork, law, farming, > > engineering, construction > > > >etc. > > > >Saturn gives tears and subsequent joy. He if > > placed in karma sthana > > > >can mean rise and fall which is unexpected and > > swift. > > > >In 7th he can give a wife who at least looks > > older to the native. > > > >In 8th he gives trouble to finances and makes the > > native suffer for > > > >his past karma. > > > >I would explain any queries related to this > > article. > > > > > > > > may god bless you all > > > >Regards > > > >partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers. > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 Dear Visti & Partha, Yes Sa for Ta is a RYK and if placed in 12th gives a strong VRY. Shri rathji in his book COVA has explained the example of mr.K karunakaran where you can see the Functioning of VRY.( He is Ta ascendant with Sa in 12th.) My question is during saade sathi which begins when Sa is in 12th from mo. My chart is a unique in its way. I have Ta Lagna with Sa placed in 7th(Scorpio). I also have Mo in Ge.hence when Sa was transiting 12th, It was actually 11th from mo. Now Sa is in Ta, aspecting natal sa. but being in 12th from Mo, it has given rise to some worries. But I need to see the effects.My question was whether it will be as severe as in other cases or Mild being a strong RYK for Ta Lagna. Thanks and with best regards L Brahma >partvinu5 >vedic astrology >vedic astrology >[vedic astrology] Re: SATURN (Article)(dear L Brahma) >Tue, 06 Nov 2001 05:21:19 -0000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: 203.90.93.84 >Received: from [216.115.96.68] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBDB0BEA9009940043209D8736044832E28; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 21:23:28 -0800 >Received: from [10.1.4.56] by n18. with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2001 >05:21:25 -0000 >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 6 Nov 2001 05:21:22 -0000 >Received: (qmail 32673 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2001 05:21:22 -0000 >Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m12.grp.snv. with >QMQP; 6 Nov 2001 05:21:22 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO n5.) (216.115.96.55) by >mta2.grp.snv. with SMTP; 6 Nov 2001 05:21:20 -0000 >Received: from [10.1.10.93] by n5. with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2001 >05:21:20 -0000 >From sentto-1229044-7073-1005024083-lbrahma Mon, 05 Nov 2001 21:23:44 -0800 >X-eGroups-Return: >sentto-1229044-7073-1005024083-lbrahma=hotmail.com >X-Sender: partvinu5 >X-Apparently-vedic astrology >X-eGroups-Return: partvinu5 >Message-ID: <9s7s0f+k1ng (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> >In-<F175V3lP7aVh4MC8dtJ00021370 >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster >X--Profile: partvinu5 >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; contact >vedic astrology-owner >Delivered-mailing list vedic astrology >Precedence: bulk >List-Un: <vedic astrology> > > >dear L brahma >even for libra and taurus ascendants saturn should be well placed. he >should not be afflicted and badly placed! >though i must confess that for libra and taurus ascendants saturn >does less harm than other ascendants as saturn is a great friend of >venus, the lagna lord for libra nad taurus ascendants. >regards >partha > >vedic astrology, "lakshman jagannath" <lbrahma@h...> >wrote: > > Hi Partha, > > As Sa is a RYK for Taurus and Libra ascendants could you also >explain > > somthing as regards to the 71/2 years (saade saathi) effects >(Transit > > effects). will they be different or will be same as regards other > > ascendants.? > > > > Thanks and with best regards > > > > L Brahma > > > > > > > > > > >partvinu5 > > >vedic astrology > > >vedic astrology > > >[vedic astrology] SATURN (Article) > > >Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:11:59 -0000 > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >X-Originating-IP: 203.90.93.84 > > >Received: from [216.115.96.68] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > > >MHotMailBDAD36F6005740043155D8736044DD38221; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 >05:13:45 > > >-0800 > > >Received: from [10.1.1.221] by n18. with NNFMP; 03 >Nov 2001 > > >13:12:05 -0000 > > >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 -0000 > > >Received: (qmail 64892 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 - >0000 > > >Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m3.grp.snv. >with QMQP; > > >3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 -0000 > > >Received: from unknown (HELO n24.) >(216.115.96.74) by > > >mta3.grp.snv. with SMTP; 3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 -0000 > > >Received: from [10.1.10.66] by n24. with NNFMP; 03 >Nov 2001 > > >13:12:01 -0000 > > >From sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma Sat, 03 Nov 2001 >05:15:05 -0800 > > >X-eGroups-Return: > > >sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma=hotmail.com@r... > > >X-Sender: partvinu5 > > >X-Apparently-vedic astrology > > >X-eGroups-Return: partvinu5 > > >Message-ID: <9s0qev+fb36@e...> > > >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 > > >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster > > >X--Profile: partvinu5 > > >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; contact > > >vedic astrology-owner > > >Delivered-mailing list vedic astrology > > >Precedence: bulk > > >List-Un: <vedic astrology-> > > > > > >The subject which i am discussing today has been discussed already > > >many atimes by eminent astrologers and pundits. > > > But i feel there is a lot of research yet to be done on the role >of > > >saturn in the realms of mundane astrology. Saturn is the planet who > > >evokes awe and fear by laymen for vvarious reasons. Saturn is a > > >planet of separative nergy. He is the planet of del;ays and > > >frustration. > > >Saturn is much maligned but one should not forget that he is a >great > > >spiritual teacher. He has the great prowess to unlock the mysteries > > >of life's purpose. THose souls who run after materialistic lifes >are > > >given from time to tiem lessons by saturn which make them go >towards > > >a path of renunciation and attainment of nirvana. > > >Saturn placed in differnt houses for different lagnas gives >differnt > > >results. > > >He is a great benific for the taurus and libra ascendant natives. >His > > >placement in kendras and konas gives tremendous results if it is >also > > >placed in shubha vargas. > > >For simha and kataka lagna natives saturn gives a lot of trouble >due > > >to his lordship. Some authors oppine that saturn in 3rd, 6th and >11th > > >house is good and gives good results. But he gives troubles during > > >travel, service and dealings due to the same placements. > > >Saturn is a planet of rigor and research. He is the chief karaka >for > > >bondage, toiling, hardwork, law, farming, engineering, construction > > >etc. > > >Saturn gives tears and subsequent joy. He if placed in karma sthana > > >can mean rise and fall which is unexpected and swift. > > >In 7th he can give a wife who at least looks older to the native. > > >In 8th he gives trouble to finances and makes the native suffer for > > >his past karma. > > >I would explain any queries related to this article. > > > > > > may god bless you all > > >Regards > > >partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 Sri Sri Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Balaji & Brahma, The reason why Saturn in 12H gives VRY is because Saturn is natural indicator of the 6H...and hence gives VRY in 12H!!!! Regards -Narayan vedic astrology, "lakshman jagannath" <lbrahma@h...> wrote: > > Dear Visti & Partha, > Yes Sa for Ta is a RYK and if placed in 12th gives a strong VRY. Shri rathji > in his book COVA has explained the example of mr.K karunakaran where you can > see the Functioning of VRY.( He is Ta ascendant with Sa in 12th.) > My question is during saade sathi which begins when Sa is in 12th from mo. > My chart is a unique in its way. I have Ta Lagna with Sa placed in > 7th(Scorpio). I also have Mo in Ge.hence when Sa was transiting 12th, It was > actually 11th from mo. Now Sa is in Ta, aspecting natal sa. but being in > 12th from Mo, it has given rise to some worries. But I need to see the > effects.My question was whether it will be as severe as in other cases or > Mild being a strong RYK for Ta Lagna. > Thanks and with best regards > > L Brahma > > > > > >partvinu5 > >vedic astrology > >vedic astrology > >[vedic astrology] Re: SATURN (Article)(dear L Brahma) > >Tue, 06 Nov 2001 05:21:19 -0000 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >X-Originating-IP: 203.90.93.84 > >Received: from [216.115.96.68] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > >MHotMailBDB0BEA9009940043209D8736044832E28; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 21:23:28 -0800 > >Received: from [10.1.4.56] by n18. with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2001 > >05:21:25 -0000 > >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 6 Nov 2001 05:21:22 -0000 > >Received: (qmail 32673 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2001 05:21:22 - 0000 > >Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m12.grp.snv. with > >QMQP; 6 Nov 2001 05:21:22 -0000 > >Received: from unknown (HELO n5.) (216.115.96.55) by > >mta2.grp.snv. with SMTP; 6 Nov 2001 05:21:20 -0000 > >Received: from [10.1.10.93] by n5. with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2001 > >05:21:20 -0000 > >From sentto-1229044-7073-1005024083-lbrahma Mon, 05 Nov 2001 21:23:44 -0800 > >X-eGroups-Return: > >sentto-1229044-7073-1005024083-lbrahma=hotmail.com@r... > >X-Sender: partvinu5 > >X-Apparently-vedic astrology > >X-eGroups-Return: partvinu5 > >Message-ID: <9s7s0f+k1ng@e...> > >In-<F175V3lP7aVh4MC8dtJ00021370@h...> > >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 > >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster > >X--Profile: partvinu5 > >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; contact > >vedic astrology-owner > >Delivered-mailing list vedic astrology > >Precedence: bulk > >List-Un: <vedic astrology-> > > > > > >dear L brahma > >even for libra and taurus ascendants saturn should be well placed. he > >should not be afflicted and badly placed! > >though i must confess that for libra and taurus ascendants saturn > >does less harm than other ascendants as saturn is a great friend of > >venus, the lagna lord for libra nad taurus ascendants. > >regards > >partha > > > >vedic astrology, "lakshman jagannath" <lbrahma@h...> > >wrote: > > > Hi Partha, > > > As Sa is a RYK for Taurus and Libra ascendants could you also > >explain > > > somthing as regards to the 71/2 years (saade saathi) effects > >(Transit > > > effects). will they be different or will be same as regards other > > > ascendants.? > > > > > > Thanks and with best regards > > > > > > L Brahma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >partvinu5 > > > >vedic astrology > > > >vedic astrology > > > >[vedic astrology] SATURN (Article) > > > >Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:11:59 -0000 > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > >X-Originating-IP: 203.90.93.84 > > > >Received: from [216.115.96.68] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > > > >MHotMailBDAD36F6005740043155D8736044DD38221; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 > >05:13:45 > > > >-0800 > > > >Received: from [10.1.1.221] by n18. with NNFMP; 03 > >Nov 2001 > > > >13:12:05 -0000 > > > >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 -0000 > > > >Received: (qmail 64892 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 - > >0000 > > > >Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m3.grp.snv. > >with QMQP; > > > >3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 -0000 > > > >Received: from unknown (HELO n24.) > >(216.115.96.74) by > > > >mta3.grp.snv. with SMTP; 3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 -0000 > > > >Received: from [10.1.10.66] by n24. with NNFMP; 03 > >Nov 2001 > > > >13:12:01 -0000 > > > >From sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma Sat, 03 Nov 2001 > >05:15:05 -0800 > > > >X-eGroups-Return: > > > >sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma=hotmail.com@r... > > > >X-Sender: partvinu5 > > > >X-Apparently-vedic astrology > > > >X-eGroups-Return: partvinu5 > > > >Message-ID: <9s0qev+fb36@e...> > > > >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 > > > >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster > > > >X--Profile: partvinu5 > > > >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; contact > > > >vedic astrology-owner > > > >Delivered-mailing list vedic astrology > > > >Precedence: bulk > > > >List-Un: <vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > >The subject which i am discussing today has been discussed already > > > >many atimes by eminent astrologers and pundits. > > > > But i feel there is a lot of research yet to be done on the role > >of > > > >saturn in the realms of mundane astrology. Saturn is the planet who > > > >evokes awe and fear by laymen for vvarious reasons. Saturn is a > > > >planet of separative nergy. He is the planet of del;ays and > > > >frustration. > > > >Saturn is much maligned but one should not forget that he is a > >great > > > >spiritual teacher. He has the great prowess to unlock the mysteries > > > >of life's purpose. THose souls who run after materialistic lifes > >are > > > >given from time to tiem lessons by saturn which make them go > >towards > > > >a path of renunciation and attainment of nirvana. > > > >Saturn placed in differnt houses for different lagnas gives > >differnt > > > >results. > > > >He is a great benific for the taurus and libra ascendant natives. > >His > > > >placement in kendras and konas gives tremendous results if it is > >also > > > >placed in shubha vargas. > > > >For simha and kataka lagna natives saturn gives a lot of trouble > >due > > > >to his lordship. Some authors oppine that saturn in 3rd, 6th and > >11th > > > >house is good and gives good results. But he gives troubles during > > > >travel, service and dealings due to the same placements. > > > >Saturn is a planet of rigor and research. He is the chief karaka > >for > > > >bondage, toiling, hardwork, law, farming, engineering, construction > > > >etc. > > > >Saturn gives tears and subsequent joy. He if placed in karma sthana > > > >can mean rise and fall which is unexpected and swift. > > > >In 7th he can give a wife who at least looks older to the native. > > > >In 8th he gives trouble to finances and makes the native suffer for > > > >his past karma. > > > >I would explain any queries related to this article. > > > > > > > > may god bless you all > > > >Regards > > > >partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > _______________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 The example given (i.e. Mr.Karunakaran's horoscope) has yet another factor, a debilitated Saturn in 12th. Now it is not very clear whether the presence of 'debilitated' planet in 12th that causes the VRY or 'Sat' in 12th. Certainly, some other example where Sat is in some other house would have been useful. Regards, NDS --- Narayan Iyer <narayan_iyer wrote: > Sri Sri Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Partha, Balaji & Brahma, > > The reason why Saturn in 12H gives VRY is because > Saturn is natural > indicator of the 6H...and hence gives VRY in 12H!!!! > > Regards > -Narayan > > > > vedic astrology, "lakshman jagannath" > <lbrahma@h...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Visti & Partha, > > Yes Sa for Ta is a RYK and if placed in 12th gives > a strong VRY. > Shri rathji > > in his book COVA has explained the example of mr.K > karunakaran > where you can > > see the Functioning of VRY.( He is Ta ascendant > with Sa in 12th.) > > My question is during saade sathi which begins > when Sa is in 12th > from mo. > > My chart is a unique in its way. I have Ta Lagna > with Sa placed in > > 7th(Scorpio). I also have Mo in Ge.hence when Sa > was transiting > 12th, It was > > actually 11th from mo. Now Sa is in Ta, aspecting > natal sa. but > being in > > 12th from Mo, it has given rise to some worries. > But I need to see > the > > effects.My question was whether it will be as > severe as in other > cases or > > Mild being a strong RYK for Ta Lagna. > > Thanks and with best regards > > > > L Brahma > > > > > > > > > > >partvinu5 > > >vedic astrology > > >vedic astrology > > >[vedic astrology] Re: SATURN > (Article)(dear L Brahma) > > >Tue, 06 Nov 2001 05:21:19 -0000 > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >X-Originating-IP: 203.90.93.84 > > >Received: from [216.115.96.68] by hotmail.com > (3.2) with ESMTP id > > >MHotMailBDB0BEA9009940043209D8736044832E28; Mon, > 05 Nov 2001 > 21:23:28 -0800 > > >Received: from [10.1.4.56] by > n18. with NNFMP; 06 > Nov 2001 > > >05:21:25 -0000 > > >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 6 Nov 2001 > 05:21:22 -0000 > > >Received: (qmail 32673 invoked from network); 6 > Nov 2001 05:21:22 - > 0000 > > >Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by > m12.grp.snv. > with > > >QMQP; 6 Nov 2001 05:21:22 -0000 > > >Received: from unknown (HELO n5.) > (216.115.96.55) > by > > >mta2.grp.snv. with SMTP; 6 Nov 2001 > 05:21:20 -0000 > > >Received: from [10.1.10.93] by > n5. with NNFMP; 06 > Nov 2001 > > >05:21:20 -0000 > > >From sentto-1229044-7073-1005024083-lbrahma Mon, > 05 Nov 2001 > 21:23:44 -0800 > > >X-eGroups-Return: > > > >sentto-1229044-7073-1005024083-lbrahma=hotmail.com@r... > > >X-Sender: partvinu5 > > >X-Apparently-vedic astrology > > >X-eGroups-Return: partvinu5 > > >Message-ID: <9s7s0f+k1ng@e...> > > >In-<F175V3lP7aVh4MC8dtJ00021370@h...> > > >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 > > >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster > > >X--Profile: partvinu5 > > >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; contact > > >vedic astrology-owner > > >Delivered-mailing list vedic astrology > > >Precedence: bulk > > >List-Un: > <vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > >dear L brahma > > >even for libra and taurus ascendants saturn > should be well placed. > he > > >should not be afflicted and badly placed! > > >though i must confess that for libra and taurus > ascendants saturn > > >does less harm than other ascendants as saturn is > a great friend of > > >venus, the lagna lord for libra nad taurus > ascendants. > > >regards > > >partha > > > > > >vedic astrology, "lakshman jagannath" > <lbrahma@h...> > > >wrote: > > > > Hi Partha, > > > > As Sa is a RYK for Taurus and Libra ascendants > could you also > > >explain > > > > somthing as regards to the 71/2 years (saade > saathi) effects > > >(Transit > > > > effects). will they be different or will be > same as regards > other > > > > ascendants.? > > > > > > > > Thanks and with best regards > > > > > > > > L Brahma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >partvinu5 > > > > >vedic astrology > > > > >vedic astrology > > > > >[vedic astrology] SATURN (Article) > > > > >Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:11:59 -0000 > > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > >X-Originating-IP: 203.90.93.84 > > > > >Received: from [216.115.96.68] by hotmail.com > (3.2) with ESMTP > id > > > > >MHotMailBDAD36F6005740043155D8736044DD38221; > Sat, 03 Nov 2001 > > >05:13:45 > > > > >-0800 > > > > >Received: from [10.1.1.221] by > n18. with > NNFMP; 03 > > >Nov 2001 > > > > >13:12:05 -0000 > > > > >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 3 Nov 2001 > 13:12:01 -0000 > > > > >Received: (qmail 64892 invoked from network); > 3 Nov 2001 > 13:12:01 - > > >0000 > > > > >Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by > m3.grp.snv. > > >with QMQP; > > > > >3 Nov 2001 13:12:01 -0000 > > > > >Received: from unknown (HELO > n24.) > > >(216.115.96.74) by > > > > >mta3.grp.snv. with SMTP; 3 Nov 2001 > 13:12:01 -0000 > > > > >Received: from [10.1.10.66] by > n24. with > NNFMP; 03 > > >Nov 2001 > > > > >13:12:01 -0000 > > > > >From sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma > Sat, 03 Nov 2001 > > >05:15:05 -0800 > > > > >X-eGroups-Return: > > > > > >sentto-1229044-7005-1004793122-lbrahma=hotmail.com@r... > > > > >X-Sender: partvinu5 > > > > >X-Apparently-vedic astrology > > > > >X-eGroups-Return: partvinu5 > > > > >Message-ID: <9s0qev+fb36@e...> > > > > >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 > > > > >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster > > > > >X--Profile: partvinu5 > > > > >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; > contact > > > > >vedic astrology-owner > > > > >Delivered-mailing list > vedic astrology > === message truncated === Find a job, post your resume. http://careers. 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