Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 dear friends and list members, the analysis/failure of this prashna by many of you shows how much you have all advanced in jyotisha.With all your socalled knowledge in astrology,it is a pity that this simple prashna could not be solved by you.This clearly proves that astrology is not pure mathematical analysis.One should have mantra siddhi to see the correct result in an instant.without that,any amount of analysis will only serve the purpose of post-facto adjustments and explanations. sorry,but iam forced to quit this group. satyanarayana sarma --- "J.K.Dasgupta" <jkdasgupta_in wrote: > Respected Nimmiji, > > Thanks for the reply. Venus is in the exaultation > sign of the depositor-but it is neither in angle > from Moon nor Lagna. Does it still form > neechabhanga? > > Further, Mercury is faster than Venus. Long of Mer > is 21:59 whereas long. of Ven is 20:55. Then how it > forms ithasala. Of course it seems that Mer was > slower at that perticular time. You see that as on > date Mer has crossed Ven. Here doubt arises that if > the temporary slow speed of a planet can be > considered for forming ithasala or ithasala formed > by the temporary slow speed might indicate short > term achievements? > > Even if Venus is in neechabhanga and ithasala with > lord of 9th from 9th, the cojunction forms at > dusthana (12L) from all considerations viz. lagna, > AL as well as 9th house. What it may indicate? Do > you think such neechabhanga will give strong malefic > result? > > Moreover question still remains that lord of journey > was in fixed earthy house in all cases. Then how the > air journey has happened? You see that even A5 > (arudha for long journey by father) is in earthy > sign Virgo. Can we conclude that free will may > overcome destiny or there is more catch to it? > > Regards, > > Dasgupta > - > Nimmi Ragavan > vedic astrology > Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:48 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Prashna chart > > > Venus (9th lord) though neecha is neecha bhanga, > though in the 8th. It forms ithasala with mercury > ruling 9th from 9th (they conjunct a few days > later). The 8th house placement may show the > continuing worries about health. > > - > J.K.Dasgupta > vedic astrology > Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:32 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Prashna chart > > > Respected Gurus and Friends, > > My parents were to come to my place (from > Calcutta to Mumbai by air), but there was > uncertainity due to my fathers's health. So I did > cast a prashna chart to see what might happen, which > is enclosed here in jhl format. > > My analysis was as follows-which came out to be > wrong. Definitely I missed some clue but I am not > sure which one. I seek help ffom learned list > members to guide me. > > MY ANALYSIS: > > In Rashi: 7th lord Sun with AL. So astrologer > and the querrist are same. Both are in 9th house > (Li) showing concern regarding father. 5th house > (9th from 9th, long journey) is Ge-a dual house, > showing uncertainity. There is Ju (3H lord from 9th) > and Ra in Ge. I was worried for some untoward > happenings during journey-if it is undertaken. Me, > lord of Ge and Ve, lagna lord of father in 12H Vi > from Li (Lagna of father) indicating > loss/hospitalization. I was worried for this also. > Also Vi, (though dual -uncertainity) is a earthy > sign, I thought there would be no air journey. > > Lagna lord Sat (querrist i.e myself) retro in > 4th showing helplessness (??) in the matter. > > In D12: 5L Me in fixed house Ta (again earthy > sign) confirming no air journey. > > How the things would manifest? I looked at AL in > rashi. AL lord debilated in 12H from AL with 9L & > 12L (from AL). Not at all a good indication. I was > cocerned about his health (father is 87 years old). > Again 5L (from AL i.e 9H from 9H, father's long > journey), Sat was retro in fixed earthy sign. Again > indicating no air journey, rather no journey at all. > In D12 also Mer, 5L from AL was in fixed earthy > sign. > > WHAT HAPPENED: > > They came as programmed. My father actually fell > sick before journey but continued the journey and > reached here on wheel chair in a very bad shape. He > was hospitalized next day for thorough check up, > nothing was detected and released. Now he is in > house but strill in a bad shape. > > CAN ANY BODY GUIDE ME WHERE MY ANALYSIS WENT > WRONG? > > Thanking you and with regards, > > Dasgupta > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! ---- Dear List, I didn't follow this discussion, but there are some rules that should be followed for a succesful Prasna. First of all the Prasna must be directed to a certain person, and the one who posed the question must be sincere in asking. The time for drawing the prasna is still being discussed among Jyotishas, however most agree that; The time when the Jyotisha wants to answer the question, is the right time for Prasna. The other school of thought, is to draw it at the time when the question is posed, however this may not be acurate, as the person may have pondered this question for a long time, without asking. Nevertheless i wonder if any of these rules were followed. If Saturn is in Navamsa Lagna, then do doubt the sincerity of the question. Best wishes, Visti. --- "r.sathyanarayana sharma" <rssharmabza wrote: > dear friends and list members, > the analysis/failure of this prashna by many of you > shows how much you have all advanced in > jyotisha.With > all your socalled knowledge in astrology,it is a > pity > that this simple prashna could not be solved by > you.This clearly proves that astrology is not pure > mathematical analysis.One should have mantra siddhi > to > see the correct result in an instant.without > that,any > amount of analysis will only serve the purpose of > post-facto adjustments and explanations. > sorry,but iam forced to quit this group. > satyanarayana sarma > > --- "J.K.Dasgupta" <jkdasgupta_in wrote: > > > Respected Nimmiji, > > > > Thanks for the reply. Venus is in the exaultation > > sign of the depositor-but it is neither in angle > > from Moon nor Lagna. Does it still form > > neechabhanga? > > > > Further, Mercury is faster than Venus. Long of Mer > > is 21:59 whereas long. of Ven is 20:55. Then how > it > > forms ithasala. Of course it seems that Mer was > > slower at that perticular time. You see that as on > > date Mer has crossed Ven. Here doubt arises that > if > > the temporary slow speed of a planet can be > > considered for forming ithasala or ithasala formed > > by the temporary slow speed might indicate short > > term achievements? > > > > Even if Venus is in neechabhanga and ithasala with > > lord of 9th from 9th, the cojunction forms at > > dusthana (12L) from all considerations viz. lagna, > > AL as well as 9th house. What it may indicate? Do > > you think such neechabhanga will give strong > malefic > > result? > > > > Moreover question still remains that lord of > journey > > was in fixed earthy house in all cases. Then how > the > > air journey has happened? You see that even A5 > > (arudha for long journey by father) is in earthy > > sign Virgo. Can we conclude that free will may > > overcome destiny or there is more catch to it? > > > > Regards, > > > > Dasgupta > > - > > Nimmi Ragavan > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:48 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Prashna chart > > > > > > Venus (9th lord) though neecha is neecha > bhanga, > > though in the 8th. It forms ithasala with mercury > > ruling 9th from 9th (they conjunct a few days > > later). The 8th house placement may show the > > continuing worries about health. > > > > - > > J.K.Dasgupta > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:32 AM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Prashna chart > > > > > > Respected Gurus and Friends, > > > > My parents were to come to my place (from > > Calcutta to Mumbai by air), but there was > > uncertainity due to my fathers's health. So I did > > cast a prashna chart to see what might happen, > which > > is enclosed here in jhl format. > > > > My analysis was as follows-which came out to > be > > wrong. Definitely I missed some clue but I am not > > sure which one. I seek help ffom learned list > > members to guide me. > > > > MY ANALYSIS: > > > > In Rashi: 7th lord Sun with AL. So astrologer > > and the querrist are same. Both are in 9th house > > (Li) showing concern regarding father. 5th house > > (9th from 9th, long journey) is Ge-a dual house, > > showing uncertainity. There is Ju (3H lord from > 9th) > > and Ra in Ge. I was worried for some untoward > > happenings during journey-if it is undertaken. Me, > > lord of Ge and Ve, lagna lord of father in 12H Vi > > from Li (Lagna of father) indicating > > loss/hospitalization. I was worried for this also. > > Also Vi, (though dual -uncertainity) is a earthy > > sign, I thought there would be no air journey. > > > > Lagna lord Sat (querrist i.e myself) retro in > > 4th showing helplessness (??) in the matter. > > > > In D12: 5L Me in fixed house Ta (again earthy > > sign) confirming no air journey. > > > > How the things would manifest? I looked at AL > in > > rashi. AL lord debilated in 12H from AL with 9L & > > 12L (from AL). Not at all a good indication. I was > > cocerned about his health (father is 87 years > old). > > Again 5L (from AL i.e 9H from 9H, father's long > > journey), Sat was retro in fixed earthy sign. > Again > > indicating no air journey, rather no journey at > all. > > In D12 also Mer, 5L from AL was in fixed earthy > > sign. > > > > WHAT HAPPENED: > > > > They came as programmed. My father actually > fell > > sick before journey but continued the journey and > > reached here on wheel chair in a very bad shape. > He > > was hospitalized next day for thorough check up, > > nothing was detected and released. Now he is in > > house but strill in a bad shape. > > > > CAN ANY BODY GUIDE ME WHERE MY ANALYSIS WENT > > WRONG? > > > > Thanking you and with regards, > > > > Dasgupta > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us > ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 Dear Visti, Here querrist and astrologer both was myself. I have explained how I have seen correctness of the prashna in my first mail. Nimmiji has given a good thinking on this. Can you please see and comment where the main point has been missed by me? However, unluckily I could not understand what Mr. Sharma wanted to convey to the list. Regards to all, Dasgupta - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:36 PM Re: [vedic astrology] this prashna chart should be an eye opener to you all. Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!----Dear List,I didn't follow this discussion, but there are somerules that should be followed for a succesful Prasna.First of all the Prasna must be directed to a certainperson, and the one who posed the question must besincere in asking.The time for drawing the prasna is still beingdiscussed among Jyotishas, however most agree that;The time when the Jyotisha wants to answer thequestion, is the right time for Prasna.The other school of thought, is to draw it at the timewhen the question is posed, however this may not beacurate, as the person may have pondered this questionfor a long time, without asking.Nevertheless i wonder if any of these rules werefollowed. If Saturn is in Navamsa Lagna, then do doubtthe sincerity of the question.Best wishes, Visti.--- "r.sathyanarayana sharma" <rssharmabza >wrote:> dear friends and list members,> the analysis/failure of this prashna by many of you> shows how much you have all advanced in> jyotisha.With > all your socalled knowledge in astrology,it is a> pity> that this simple prashna could not be solved by> you.This clearly proves that astrology is not pure> mathematical analysis.One should have mantra siddhi> to> see the correct result in an instant.without> that,any> amount of analysis will only serve the purpose of> post-facto adjustments and explanations.> sorry,but iam forced to quit this group.> satyanarayana sarma> > > > > > > > > --- "J.K.Dasgupta" <jkdasgupta_in > wrote:> >> Respected Nimmiji,> > > > Thanks for the reply. Venus is in the exaultation> > sign of the depositor-but it is neither in angle> > from Moon nor Lagna. Does it still form> > neechabhanga?> > > > Further, Mercury is faster than Venus. Long of Mer> > is 21:59 whereas long. of Ven is 20:55. Then how> it> > forms ithasala. Of course it seems that Mer was> > slower at that perticular time. You see that as on> > date Mer has crossed Ven. Here doubt arises that> if> > the temporary slow speed of a planet can be> > considered for forming ithasala or ithasala formed> > by the temporary slow speed might indicate short> > term achievements?> > > > Even if Venus is in neechabhanga and ithasala with> > lord of 9th from 9th, the cojunction forms at> > dusthana (12L) from all considerations viz. lagna,> > AL as well as 9th house. What it may indicate? Do> > you think such neechabhanga will give strong> malefic> > result?> > > > Moreover question still remains that lord of> journey> > was in fixed earthy house in all cases. Then how> the> > air journey has happened? You see that even A5> > (arudha for long journey by father) is in earthy> > sign Virgo. Can we conclude that free will may> > overcome destiny or there is more catch to it?> > > > Regards,> > > > Dasgupta> > - > > Nimmi Ragavan > > To: vedic astrology > > Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:48 PM> > Re: [vedic astrology] Prashna chart> > > > > > Venus (9th lord) though neecha is neecha> bhanga,> > though in the 8th. It forms ithasala with mercury> > ruling 9th from 9th (they conjunct a few days> > later). The 8th house placement may show the> > continuing worries about health.> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > J.K.Dasgupta > > To: vedic astrology > > Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:32 AM> > Re: [vedic astrology] Prashna chart> > > > > > Respected Gurus and Friends,> > > > My parents were to come to my place (from> > Calcutta to Mumbai by air), but there was> > uncertainity due to my fathers's health. So I did> > cast a prashna chart to see what might happen,> which> > is enclosed here in jhl format.> > > > My analysis was as follows-which came out to> be> > wrong. Definitely I missed some clue but I am not> > sure which one. I seek help ffom learned list> > members to guide me.> > > > MY ANALYSIS:> > > > In Rashi: 7th lord Sun with AL. So astrologer> > and the querrist are same. Both are in 9th house> > (Li) showing concern regarding father. 5th house> > (9th from 9th, long journey) is Ge-a dual house,> > showing uncertainity. There is Ju (3H lord from> 9th)> > and Ra in Ge. I was worried for some untoward> > happenings during journey-if it is undertaken. Me,> > lord of Ge and Ve, lagna lord of father in 12H Vi> > from Li (Lagna of father) indicating> > loss/hospitalization. I was worried for this also.> > Also Vi, (though dual -uncertainity) is a earthy> > sign, I thought there would be no air journey.> > > > Lagna lord Sat (querrist i.e myself) retro in> > 4th showing helplessness (??) in the matter.> > > > In D12: 5L Me in fixed house Ta (again earthy> > sign) confirming no air journey.> > > > How the things would manifest? I looked at AL> in> > rashi. AL lord debilated in 12H from AL with 9L &> > 12L (from AL). Not at all a good indication. I was> > cocerned about his health (father is 87 years> old).> > Again 5L (from AL i.e 9H from 9H, father's long> > journey), Sat was retro in fixed earthy sign.> Again> > indicating no air journey, rather no journey at> all.> > In D12 also Mer, 5L from AL was in fixed earthy> > sign.> > > > WHAT HAPPENED:> > > > They came as programmed. My father actually> fell> > sick before journey but continued the journey and> > reached here on wheel chair in a very bad shape.> He> > was hospitalized next day for thorough check up,> > nothing was detected and released. Now he is in> > house but strill in a bad shape.> > > > CAN ANY BODY GUIDE ME WHERE MY ANALYSIS WENT> > WRONG?> > > > Thanking you and with regards,> > > > Dasgupta> > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> >>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us> .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the> > > > > > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> >>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the> > > Terms of Service. > > > > > >_________________> *NEW* Messenger for SMS. Now on your> Celforce phone *NEW*> Visit> http://in.mobile./smsmgr_signin.html> === message truncated ===Find a job, post your resume.http://careers.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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