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FOR CONVENIENCE I AM REPEATING THE QUESTIONS

(a) when the charts of both Rama and Laxman were exactly similar, why the

difference of being eldest and third as well as so many other differences like

Rama's spouse acompanying Him to the jungles of Orissa (My Kalinga is still a

jungle after so many years - sad) whereas Laxman's spouse was in the toilet?

(b) Why did the Maharishi's always say that Bharat was the ideal of Kingship

while they said that Rama was the ideal of Dharma?

© why does Parasara attribute the Sun as signifying Rama at its highest glory

and Moon at its highest glory as Krishna?

 

Thanks a lot ,This are Crystal clear questions ,I can easyly Understand & you

asked for Only Jyotish wonderul

 

I shall also Include additional comments also which you may Ignore .....

after seeing your questions muje uksuktha aur jigyasa bhad gaya ....to answer it

...pls give me some time...

I also know well about you & you Intentions are not that stating >>>My Kalinga

is still a jungle after so many years - sad & Laxman's spouse <<<Urmila >>>was

in the toilet ......I know about you very well ......

It's is My kalinga too <<<I am Indian >>>...........Kalinga is know for the

King Ashokas tooooooooo......pls give me some time to answer...

Best Regards >========>>>Srinagesh

 

Sanjay Rath <srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote:

 

***Jaya Jagannath***Dear Partha (I think this is your name and not patvisnu as some call you)

Srinagesh please note this.

Other comments are given below. I have removed the points which need not be addressed any more.

Best WishesSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com***Om Tat Sat***

GURU) Your statement that He was the purest of souls is alsoincorrect

technically as this implies that He is being compared to other mortal souls

like you and I. Sri Rama has a very large portion of Paramatmamsa and cannot be

said to be a simple soul. Terms like noble andpure are relative and cannot be

used to describe the absolute. They give arelative picture like one glass of

water is purer than another but that which is beyond perception cannot be

classified. In fact the only way to understand the leela is to study the Arudha

as this indicates as to why They did what They did.partha) Aren't pure and noble

absolute terms. I am not a pundit in english literature , nor is the language

profound enough to describe parmatama. What did shankara say, he mentioned that

god is you and you are god. It is you that has to realise that you are not

separate from him. I do not understand why are we different from him. Please do

not use theroy of relativity here.RATH; NO, PURE AND NOBLE ARE NOT ABSOLUTE

TERMS. TAKE THE WORD "PURE" IN PURE WATER. WE CAN SAY THAT THE WATER FROM THE

PURITAS FILTER IS PURE IMPLYING THAT IT IS FIT FOR DRINKING/HUMAN CONSUMPTION,

BUT THE WATER STILL CONTAINS A LOT OF BACTERIA ETC. AMONG THE RIVERS OF THE

WORLD, THE GANGES IS THE ONLY RIVER WHOSE WATER NEAR THE SOURSE IS 100%

BACTERIA FREE AND IS TOTALLY PURE IN THE SENSE THAT IT CAN BE PRESERVED FOR

YEARS TOGETHER AND DRUNK EVEN AFTER THAT. WATER FROM ALL OTHER RIVERS

DECOMPOSES SOONER OR LATER. THUS PURE IS A RELATIVE TERM.

YOU SPEAK OF ADVAITA ALONE BUT YOU MUST ALSO READ DWAITA..SHANKARACHARYA ALSO

WROTE THE BHAGAVAT GITA AND THE VAISHNAVA TRADITION ACCEPTS THAT WE ARE NOT

DIFFERENT FROM GOD, BUT WE ARE ALSO DIFFERENT FROM GOD LIKE TWO PARROTS SITTING

ON THE BRANCH THE ATMA AND PARAMATMA SIT IN THE HEART. THEY ARE SIMILAR YET

DIFFERENT.

DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THEORY OF RELATIVITY. I WONDER IF YOU HAVE STUDIED IT. IN ANY

CASE IF YOU HAVE IT WILL ONLY HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND BHAGAVAN BETTER. AFTER ALL,

KNOWLEDGE IS THE ONLY MEANS TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW HIM. I AGREE THAT BHAKTI IS

THE BEST MEANS TO REACH HIM.(1) When the charts of Sri Rama and Sri Lakshman

are the same, why was Ramathe eldest and Lakshman the third born? Similarly,

why was Rama's wife theeldest and Lakshman's wife the third child? Also, why

did Rama's spouseaccompany Him while Laxman's did not do so during their period

in thejungles.ans) Rama had a different chart from lakshmana because the god has

to teach people different things in different ways. Ram was the part of bhagvan

who had to kill demons. lakshmana was the part of bhagvan who had to accompany

him in his travails. Hanuman was the part of bhagvan who was the instrument in

setting up the whole mechanism. like wise we can explain for bharatha also.

Since mortals cannot understand a person doing contrarion things, bhagavan has

helped valmiki create an epic which has different people of the same bhagvan

for the common folk to understand. for me ram and lakshman are one and the

same. But they had different purposes and techniques because common folk cannot

understand things which are beyond them. Thus different incarnations of the same

bhagvan make us understand him completely.RATH: ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT LAKSHMAN

WAS ALSO AN AVATAR OF VISHNU? I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT THING ABOUT REQUIREMENT FOR

SIMPLE PEOPLE AND LEELA . WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEIR CHARTS? TRY TO

GIVE ME AN ANSWER FROM THE CHARTS. IF YOU DO NOT GIVE AN ANSWER BASED ON

JYOTISH, I WILL NOT WRITE AGAIN ON THIS.(2) When the charts of Rama & Lakshman

are the same, why is it that Rama had so many faithful followers and not

Lakshman? what star indicates Vibheeshana the greatest Rama Bhakta (I think)?

It is easier to stay among saints and recite the name of Rama than to be in the

city of demons and do so; it is easier to side by your kith and kin and support

Rama than to become inimical to your whole clan and do so. In that sense, the

test for Vibheeshana was greater than that for Hanuman.ans) Look who is

comparing now. My dear learned guru, why are you comparing the bhakthi of

vibheeshana and hanuman.Bhagvan is bhagvan for everyone. Even for the poor maid

and the bird that flies non-chalantly in the skies. Why are you saying the

testing of bhakthi for vibheeshana, i am surpirsed.RATH: IT IS THROUGH

COMPARISION THAT WE IMPROVE. TO IMPROVE WE MUST REALISE THAT THERE ARE THOSE

WHO ARE BETTER AND MUST LEARN TO FOLLOW IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS. IF I WERE YOUR

GURU, WHICH I AM NOT, I WOULD MAKE YOU COMPARE THE LATEST AFGHAN HAPPENINGS

WITH RAMAYANA'S EVENTS..THAT WAY ALONE CAN THEMIND GRAPPLE WITH TOUGH

QUESTIONS.

BHAGAVAN IS BHAGAVAN FOR EVERYONE, BUT WE ALL HAVE OUR SHARE OF TESTS. SUDAMA

FAILED TO DELIVER THE FOOD TO KRISHNA AND GOBBLED IT..FAILED THE TEST AND HAD

POVERTY FOR MANY YEARS. ANYWAY THIS IS IRRELEVANT TO THE SUBJECT SO LET US

LEAVE IT.

(3) What are the indications that Rama is the highest possible manifestationi

HAVE ANSWERED ALL THE ANSWERES WHICH I FELT COULD GIVE ME MORE UNDERSTANDING OF

GOD. rAMA IS PARMATMA, RAMA IS PARAMANANDA, RAMA IS ALL AND ALL IS RAMA.

RAMAJAPAM GIVES MOKSHA. jAI SHREE RAMRATH: THIS IS AN ASTROLOGICAL QUESTION.

THE ANSWER GIVEN IS NOT ASTROLOGY. NICE TO READ JAI SHREE RAM. HERE THE

QUESTION IS NOT OF UNDERSTANDING GOD AS THIS IS A JYOTISH FORUM. IT IS A SIMPLE

QUESTION OF UNDERSTANDING ASTROLOGY. ALL THAT YOU SAID I ALREADY KNOW.

'SHREE RAM JAYA RAM JAYA JAYA RAM'....

 

FOR CONVENIENCE I AM REPEATING THE QUESTIONS

(a) when the charts of both Rama and Laxman were exactly similar, why the

difference of being eldest and third as well as so many other differences like

Rama's spouse acompanying Him to the jungles of Orissa (My Kalinga is still a

jungle after so many years - sad) whereas Laxman's spouse was in the toilet?

(b) Why did the Maharishi's always say that Bharat was the ideal of Kingship

while they said that Rama was the ideal of Dharma?

© why does Parasara attribute the Sun as signifying Rama at its highest glory

and Moon at its highest glory as Krishna?

 

AND I EXPECT ONLY JYOTISH.

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