Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 you are revered by me since you are the pooshaka for learning the Vedic astrology & you are a learned one & Great ... Respected Sanjay guruji Gurur Bhrama Gurur Vishnu Gurur Devo Maheshwaraha Gurur Sakshat Param Bhrama tat meye sri guruve namaha >>>Guru is the one who shows the path o achieve the real goal >> one's guru is eual to Lord Bhrama ,Sri Maha Vishnu & Parameha I admire you a lot and if i had been your shishya then i couldnot have challenged anything as it is a sin to go against one's guru. & also Guru should not be partial ... Guru is one who must be impratial unlike like Drona >>>Initally Drona also supported Arjuna partiality ,Dorna was dead against Drupada finally ..because durpada was in Dharmic path Finally Arjuna had to take Drupadas side,Karma is so perfect getting free thumb from Ekalayya with out doing any thing asking for his thumb ,finally his head got seperated by Dhrutyadumyain battle feild , ANswers to your questions (a) when the charts of both Rama and Laxman were exactly similar, why the Dfference of being eldest and third as well as so many other differences like Rama's <<<Maha Lakshmi >>>Him to the jungles of Orissa (My Kalinga <<<Mine tooooooooooo I am INDIAN >>> isstill a jungle after so many years - sad) whereas Laxman's spouse<<<URMILA>>>was inthe <<<TO -LET ?>>> For you kind Information Rama was Born In Punarvasu star First day Second Day Lakshnama & Sathrugyna were Born with Aslesha star Third day Bharat was born with Pushyami star Let us consider any twin's chart the lagan & Star can be same but the Navama will be totally diffrent & Twin's chart I can forward N Number of charts to you all Practical ones with same rasi star but totally diffrent Navamsa check it out .... Regarding urmila >>>there is a sayinG Urmila nidhra a song itseems when lakshmana went to exile Urmial had suffered was most time asleep .... ans) The similarity between rama and lakshmana ends when we analyse nakshatras of both the avataars. Rama was born in punarvasu MOON nakshatra & LAKSHMANA & Sathrugna WAS born in ASLESHA moon nakshatra. Aslesha is the nakshatra of lakshmana becuase lakshmana was the incarnation of ADISHESHA. Aslesha symbolises the naga, or the sarpa. Shri rama had moon and jupiter conjunct practically in most of the shadvargas. Moon is the symbol of manas and jupiter is the symbol of dharma, protection and GOD. tHE ENTIRE UNIVERSE has been creaated by the will of the god. The will of the god , the will of RAMA is symbolised by moon, who is the lagnadhipati of Rama. Thus the moon the manas combines with jupiter or dharma and vanquishes the adharma(rahu).lakshmana has the same chart, but when we go to navamsa and other shadvargas the moon for LAKSHMANA IS not with jupiter. The divisional charts are helpful for such people who have practically same charts. We can use the divisional charts to explain the subtle differences between the two people.(b) Why did the Maharishi's always say that Bharat was the ideal ofKingship while they said that Rama was the ideal of Dharma? Lord Rama ruled the Kingdom with Dharma for 10,000 years in Treta yuga >>>Longetivity was so much ...Muchikunda's Longetivity >>>ha ha ha .....Got the answer ...... Rama was a great Kinship<<<example Rama Rajya>>>till today it is called & also Dharma & Bharata only Kinship vice versa is not acciplicable ...For Brother sake he went to killhis own mother such was the attachment for Rama & Bharata...He was with his uncle house when King Dasharatha went awaya ...you all are learned everyting happened because of bad company >>>Sairandhri & two boons which kaiki took in a battle feild...King died because of Puthra sooka >>>cursed by paretns of Shravan Kumara..karma is like that & lord Sri rama knew that is Dharma .....>>>shabdavedi kala was the karaka ...... Yes Bharatha is the ideal king and ideal human being. Meena is the final rashi of the zodiac. It is symbolised by the two fishes that are immersed in the sea of contentment. After all the trials and tribulations the atma is ready to seek paramatma. Meena represents the moksha. It is the 12th house of the natural zodiac. 12th means the pada or the feet. The episode where Bharatha puts Ramas footwear on his head and goes back to ayaodhya shows his humility. In ayodhya he keeps the footwear on the throne and he runs the administration of Ayodhya. Bharatha was born in the meena lagna with jupiter and moon in 5th house of mind. His mind was pure, his motivations were always to be guided by dharma and above all the god himself. Thus he always followed Rama whose lagna is fifth from his(Bharatha's) lagna. © why does Parasara attribute the Sun as signifying Rama at its highestglory and Moon at its highest glory as Krishna?Sun is the symbol of dharma and light. Sun is the natural atmakaraka. Well there is so much discussion between you and PVN regarding sun being the atmakarak, and OVN saying that sun cannot be atmakarak for rama technically. Well it is crystal clear that sage parashara meant that sun as the natural atmakaraka amd his placement in the 10th house of karma in super exaltation, gives THE ATMA OF RAMA A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO EXERT GREAT EFFORT , GREAT KARMA to reach the parmatma. Idea is quite simple.Krishna is the highest form of moon, why? Beccause krishna was playing so many leelas . Krishna was born in rhini nakshatra. he was born at stroke of midnight , when moon was superexalted , in pitch darkness in jail. What does pitch darkness and jail symbolise. The BODY IS COMING INTO THIS WORLD WHEN THERE IS TOTAL DARKNESS. tHE MOON IS SUPERSTRONG FOR KRISHNA AS KALABALA IS ALSO THE HIGHEST FOR MOON AT THE TIME OF MIDNIGHT.KRISHNA REPRESENTS MOON AS HE PLAYS THE MIND GAMES WITH THE FOLKS OF THIS WORLD WHO ARE FAST ASLEEP AND ARE NOT RECOGNISING HIS PRESENCE. THUS NOT TRHOUGH THE HIGHEST FORM OF KARMA BUT THROUGH HIGHEST FORM THE MANAH DOES THE KRISHNA(KRISHNA MEANS THE BLUE). NOW WHY KRISHNA IS BLUE , BECAUSE BLUE REPRESENTS INFINITE. LOOK AT THE SKY, IT IS DARK. IT REPRESENTS THE INFINITE. THE LEELAS OF KRISHNA ARE TO MAKE THE WORLD REALISE THAT WE HAVE TO PERFORM THE KARMA TO REACH HIM(GITA).RAMA SHOWED US THE WAY BY SETTING EXAMPLES THROUGH VALOUR AND COURAGE THROUGH DHARMA AND KARMA(1ST HOUSE AND 10TH HOUSE.) KRISHNA ASKS THE ININITE COLLECTIVE ATMAS OF SILLY HUMANS TO REALISE HIM, ADORE HIM, REACH HIM.>>AND I EXPECT ONLY JYOTISH.YES MY DEAR SIR I HAVE GIVEN JYOTISH ANSWERS WHICH ARE OFCOURSE BACKED BY BHAKTHI WHICH I CANNOT AVOID AT ANY COST. Why only lord RAMA & Lakshmana & Sita went to jungle .....Though Sri Rama was a Greatest kinshipwent bare footed to jungle...Lord Rama first ..second followed by site & lakshmana security guard for 16 years Lakshmana never saw Mahalakshmi face ... even jwelery is brought lakshmana saya na jaanum keeure....najanum ......I can only recognise the silver anklet in leg finger... hence Lord Rama make a remark ...I can get father like dasharatha & mother like Kaushalya but none brother like you .....MahaLakshmi Sita makes a remark on lakshmana when he does not go when maricha is killed...she make a remark ......due to which lord Ram >>>omniscient ,omnipotenet & omni present asks same lakshmna to send sita to forest ...sita & urmila both suffered .....I completely disagree that only urmila has sufferend rathe wass in <<<to-let Board >>> & not Sita ,no one keeps the name sita but people keep the name urmila ...sanjaji Urmila matondkar .....hahahah..... Pranams & Best Regards Srinagesh Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... partvinu5 <partvinu5 > wrote: Respected Sanjay gurujiPlease forgive me if i am not your shishya. I admire you a lot and if i had been your shishya then i couldnot have challenged anything as it is a sin to go against one's guru.ANswers to your questions (a) when the charts of both Rama and Laxman were exactly similar, why thedifference of being eldest and third as well as so many other differenceslike Rama's spouse acompanying Him to the jungles of Orissa (My Kalinga isstill a jungle after so many years - sad) whereas Laxman's spouse was inthe toilet?ans) The similarity between rama and lakshmana ends when we analyse nakshatras of both the avataars. Rama was born in punarvasu MOON nakshatra and LAKSHMANA WAS born in ASLESHA moon nakshatra. Aslesha is the nakshatra of lakshmana becuase lakshmana was the incarnation of ADISHESHA. Aslesha symbolises the naga, or the sarpa. Shri rama had moon and jupiter conjunct practically in most of the shadvargas. Moon is the symbol of manas and jupiter is the symbol of dharma, protection and GOD. tHE ENTIRE UNIVERSE has been creaated by the will of the god. The will of the god , the will of RAMA is symbolised by moon, who is the lagnadhipati of Rama. Thus the moon the manas combines with jupiter or dharma and vanquishes the adharma(rahu).lakshmana has the same chart, but when we go to navamsa and other shadvargas the moon for LAKSHMANA IS not with jupiter. The divisional charts are helpful for such people who have practically same charts. We can use the divisional charts to explain the subtle differences between the two people.(b) Why did the Maharishi's always say that Bharat was the ideal ofKingship while they said that Rama was the ideal of Dharma?Yes Bharatha is the ideal king and ideal human being. Meena is the final rashi of the zodiac. It is symbolised by the two fishes that are immersed in the sea of contentment. After all the trials and tribulations the atma is ready to seek paramatma. Meena represents the moksha. It is the 12th house of the natural zodiac. 12th means the pada or the feet. The episode where Bharatha puts Ramas footwear on his head and goes back to ayaodhya shows his humility. In ayodhya he keeps the footwear on the throne and he runs the administration of Ayodhya. Bharatha was born in the meena lagna with jupiter and moon in 5th house of mind. His mind was pure, his motivations were always to be guided by dharma and above all the god himself. Thus he always followed Rama whose lagna is fifth from his(Bharatha's) lagna. © why does Parasara attribute the Sun as signifying Rama at its highestglory and Moon at its highest glory as Krishna?Sun is the symbol of dharma and light. Sun is the natural atmakaraka. Well there is so much discussion between you and PVN regarding sun being the atmakarak, and OVN saying that sun cannot be atmakarak for rama technically. Well it is crystal clear that sage parashara meant that sun as the natural atmakaraka amd his placement in the 10th house of karma in super exaltation, gives THE ATMA OF RAMA A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO EXERT GREAT EFFORT , GREAT KARMA to reach the parmatma. Idea is quite simple.Krishna is the highest form of moon, why? Beccause krishna was playing so many leelas . Krishna was born in rhini nakshatra. he was born at stroke of midnight , when moon was superexalted , in pitch darkness in jail. What does pitch darkness and jail symbolise. The BODY IS COMING INTO THIS WORLD WHEN THERE IS TOTAL DARKNESS. tHE MOON IS SUPERSTRONG FOR KRISHNA AS KALABALA IS ALSO THE HIGHEST FOR MOON AT THE TIME OF MIDNIGHT.KRISHNA REPRESENTS MOON AS HE PLAYS THE MIND GAMES WITH THE FOLKS OF THIS WORLD WHO ARE FAST ASLEEP AND ARE NOT RECOGNISING HIS PRESENCE. THUS NOT TRHOUGH THE HIGHEST FORM OF KARMA BUT THROUGH HIGHEST FORM THE MANAH DOES THE KRISHNA(KRISHNA MEANS THE BLUE). NOW WHY KRISHNA IS BLUE , BECAUSE BLUE REPRESENTS INFINITE. LOOK AT THE SKY, IT IS DARK. IT REPRESENTS THE INFINITE. THE LEELAS OF KRISHNA ARE TO MAKE THE WORLD REALISE THAT WE HAVE TO PERFORM THE KARMA TO REACH HIM(GITA).RAMA SHOWED US THE WAY BY SETTING EXAMPLES THROUGH VALOUR AND COURAGE THROUGH DHARMA AND KARMA(1ST HOUSE AND 10TH HOUSE.) KRISHNA ASKS THE ININITE COLLECTIVE ATMAS OF SILLY HUMANS TO REALISE HIM, ADORE HIM, REACH HIM.>>AND I EXPECT ONLY JYOTISH.YES MY DEAR GURUJI I HAVE GIVEN JYOTISH ANSWERS WHICH ARE OFCOURSE BACKED BY BHAKTHI WHICH I CANNOT AVOID AT ANY COST.REGARDSPARTHAArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do You ? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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