Nandans Attempt

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!-----------------------------

Dear Nandan,

 

Some comments bellow.

 

Some questions on this posting of yours:Ref your phrases:1. "In navamsa, the 7th

house is Aries. Taking Aries as lagna.....":Visti: Yes consider aries as lagna

and judge the effects from there, as well as the lord of aries; mars. The Paka

Lagna has more todo with how the fortune of our activities reveals itself. Both

should be considered. However in case of siblings(D-3) and children(D-7),

consider the lord more.

 

2. In relevant d-chart, hemming of lagna= the relevant relative (d-12 forparents, etc) is beautiful.

Visti: When lagna is hemmed between beneficial planets(subhakartari yoga) then

offcourse the person is beuftiful. Its like being protected by pillows.

 

 

>From your various writings, I gather instead:1. Lg in relevant d-chart is the

native wrt that domain, AND specificallyin d-9, the native's (not the wife's)

appearance.2. nth house in that d-chart is the domain itself.3. Lord of nth

house in that d-chart is a) the physical aspects of thatrelative, & b) charts

could be cast taking THAT as the Lg for thatrelative's life.4. Arudh: for

other's perception of one's appearance: eg with all thetwisted face & uneven

teeth that I see in my wife's face specifically, theworld thinks she is

beautiful, so her arudh must be great. I guess I needto refer to A7 in d-9, or

A12 in d-1, or both???

 

Visti: You can. Spend more time on Upapada in Rasi.

The difference is;

1. The Pada of the spouse in Navamsa, shows how people have percieved her, her whole life.

2. The Upapada in Rasi, shows specifically, how YOUR spouse is percieved. So

theres a difference here, as the shift goes from being an individual, to being

your spouse.

5. External Looks of spouse specifically= planets affecting

(dispositor,conjunction, aspects, etc) 7 & L7, both in d-1 & d-9, not L7

itself. VersusNature of wife more from A12

 

Visti: Since when did Maya have anything todo with nature. You know the answer

to this one. Arudhas show perception.

6. Ignoring ONE factor: ie they are still not married: so A7, not A12??

Visti: Good point, we either should have predicted their meeting and seen the

lordship of the Antar Dasa graha(vimshottari) or seen the wifes chart

herself.So, using your teachings in text-book fashion, can I attempt Sagar

Chitnis'case, & please correct me where I have veered/ misunderstood

yourteachings. Every where below, I am ignoring argalas only for simplicitytho'

I should, & using only sign-aspects in the d-9. Note I am seggregatingfactor for

MARRIAGE from SPOUSE from LOOKS of spouse (am trying still todifferentiate

before integration, as you have taught):MARRIAGE: 7 & A12 in d-1, 1 & 7 in d-9,

Ve in d-1 & d-9:7 in d-1= marriage: Ta: a) has retro St L3/4, b) aspected by Ma

L1/6 in own1, sign-aspected by vargottam Mc L8/11 conjoined Sn L10 in 3, c)

lord Ve(ref below) reasonably placed, d) supporting kendras/ kons have Ma in

own 1& Mn YogKrk L9 in 10 & Mc/ Sn in 3: influences are independently strong;

somarital issues, both good & bad, are individually taken seriously.A-12 in

d-1= marriage: in 4= Aq: its lord St (= spouse) retro L3/4 in

7,planetary-aspected by Ma L1/6 in own 1, its lord St L3/4 in 7 & Mn YK L9

in10: same comment as for 7 in d-1.Lg in d-9= self's view of marriage= Li: a)

has Ra, b) aspected by Mn L10exalted in 8, c) its lord Ve (L1/8) deb in 12, d)

supporting kendras/ konshave Ma L7/2 & vargottam Mc L9/12 forming a combined

RYK in 4, Ke in 7, &RYK retro St L4/5 in 10: desire marriage & wish to make it

a success,confronting & not evading the challenges (eg weak Lord of Lg, &c) in

thevarious placements.7 in d-9= marriage itself= Ar: a) has Ke, b) its lord Ma

well-placed withMc RYK combo, c) supporting kendras have the nodes & retro RYK

St L4/5 in10, kons have Jp L3/6 vargottam in own 3, d) hemmed by luminaries Sn

L11 in6 & exalted Mn L10 in 8: will have challenges (Ke) but is so well

supportedthat issues will always be overcome.Ve: Ve: same as L7 in d-1. In d-9:

L1/8 debilitated in 12: try to wringmore out of inherent potential of

relationship/ over-expectationMutual placement between these indicators= Ease

of process, Not result:(ignoring AL for simplicity): UL wrt 7/ 1/ L7 in d-1:

basically in mutualco-working kendras, with UL wrt L7 being in 3/11, the

relationships beingmutually naturally friendly also: partners work well

together to resolveall issues.Summary of Marriage: Challenging marriage, with

basic desire from bothsides (see next below) to confront & successfully resolve

all issues &emerge stronger. Being more realistic in expectations would help.

Visti: You should list what the challenges are, and why they have come.

All i see is a weighing of the positives and negatives of the marriage.

 

Venus, Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu aspect 2nd from Upapada.

Rahu aspecting 2nd from Upapada can cause extra marital relations, if also the darapada is involved.

Darapada is Cancer, and lord is Moon. Neither associate with the 2nd from

Upapada. Venus and Rahu together can produce blood-related problems. Jupiter is

the saving influence here, and propper remedial messures can be given to

strengthen Venus. Rahu + Jupiter gives poor dentition.

 

Now see that the lord of Upapada is Rahu. Rahu involved in Guru-Chandala Yoga,

shows that the marriage may come through some sort of cheating. However as

Jupiter is stronger, there is more Guru and less chandala, which is auspicious.

You could infer, that he met the spouse, through some peoples scheming behind

his back. Maybe he was set up to meet her.

 

Lord of Upapada joining Venus and Jupiter, shows a wife of highly elevated

status, and very learned and intelligent education. Note, that i didn't comment

on her intelligence. This should be seen from Navamsa.

 

Mercury and Sun is in 12th from Upapada, this is why Sanjay asked about

Fathers-inlaws(sun) longevity.

Both lords of Upapada and the 2nd therefrom are well placed in Navamsa, so i

have no fears regarding the length of married life.

 

 

SPOUSE specifically: L7 & Ve in both d-1 & d-9, A-7 in d-9:L7 in d-1= spouse: Ve

L7/12 in 2: a) conjoined vargottam Jp L2/5 in own 2but also exalted Ra, b)

totally unaspected, d) supporting kendras/ konshave Mn L9 in 10: independent,

financially stable, but seeking more.Lord of UL in d-1= physical nature of

wife: retro St L3/4 in 7 (ref 7above): limited self-expression/ limited desire

to reach out & seeksupport.L7 in d-9= physical nature of wife: Ma L2/7 in 4=

Cp: a) has RYK combo withMc L 9/12, b) aspected by exalted Mn L10, supporting

kendras have exaltednodes & RYK St, & kons have exalted Mn L10 in 8 & deb Ve

L1/8 in 12: thod-9 weak intrinsically (Lg lord), but many supporting strong &

positivefactors: L7 very positive.A7 in d-9= perception of marriage & spouse:

in 10= Cn: a) has retro RYK St,b) lord Mn exalted, c) aspected by its lord

exalted Mn: again very positive.9 from Ve in d-1 & d-9: Mn L9 in 10 in d-1,

exalted Mn L10 in 8 in d-9:very good.Summary of Spouse: well established,

confident girl, needs well-meaningsupport, which the native would provide.

 

Visti: Others have given comments on the spouse. LOOKS: most affected by:

Planets affecting 7 & L7 in d-1 & d-9:7 in d-1: has St, aspected by Ma, vgtm Mc

& Sn, disposited by Ve.L7 in d-1: conjoined vargottam Jp & exalted Ra, &

disposited by Jp.7 in d-9 : has Ke, disposited by RYK Ma.L7 in d-9 : has RYK

combo with Mc, aspected by exalted Mn, disposited byRYK St.Giving most

importance to L7 in d-1 & d-9: RYK Mc, exalted Mn, RYK St &vargottam Jp are the

main influencers, of which St & Jp are the strongest &most benign planets

considering both d-1 & d-9. Both St & Jp give height,while strong & benign Mc &

Mn in d-9 would give attractive features &speech (both for Mn & Mc), skin (Mc) &

eyes (Mn).

Visti: Narasimha commented on this.

INTERNAL NATURE OF SPOUSE: Ref UL in d-1 above, which is very wellsupported by

St, Ma & Mn, all strong & benign.

 

Visti: You mean how people percieve "HIS SPOUSE".RegardsNandan

Hope this helps.

Best wishes, Visti.