Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 Dear Pt Sanjay Rath, Hare Rama Krsna. Thank you for your comments. >Agreed that Herod died in 4 BC and that this was close to the eclipse of >that year. So, Jesus could have been born at least 2 years before that >i.e. 6 BC i.e. (-5) or earlier. Why should there be a lap of 2 years between Jesus' birth and the killing of the babies? Indeed, the Jup-Sat. conjunction started in January 7 BC, so the Wise Men thought He would have been born around that time and told Herod He could be at least 2 years old, yet, just after their visit to Herod, when they were led to the place where Jesus was born, He was just a newborn baby! So doesn't that bring us to the date of 5 BC?? Isn't this perfect logic? >Since the various prophesy and >revelations point out the fact that Jesus was born "within 2 years from >the killing of the babes" ordered by Herod, it is likely that this could >be between 7 B.C to 4 BC, but definitely not 3 BC. The date I have given is 5 BC, or 1 year before the demise of Herod. >As regards Tithi, I have read detailed descriptions fitting the stars at >Virgo and am inclined to believe that the Moon may have just risen at the >time of his birth i.e. Moon will be in Lagna or 12th house but just below >the lagna degree if in lagna. Thus, in any case it cannot be amavasya. I don't know what you have read, and don't understand what you mean with fitting the stars at Virgo, but if Orthodox Church claims that it was a dark moon night, shouldn't we accept that? We must know that Orthodox Church has remained much more to the roots of the original christianity than we have in the West. >Revelations:12:1-2 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman >clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a >crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in >birth, and pained to be delivered. As far as the book of Revelations is concerned, there are many figurative descriptions of wonders, disasters etc. and are very difficult to interpret. I have read the book several times and do not believe that in this verse the birth of the Christ is described, and even if so, then it would be unacceptable to interpret it in some astrological way. It is too mystic for this. >As regards the question as to How did Jesus survive if Herod had had all >children aged 2 or less killed, the following explains it well: What is the following? Your sishya, Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 Hari Om Tat Sat Dear Dhira Krsna das, How many wise men were really there? Lets see you get this one right. What were their names? Did they really go to see Jesus born? Was the angel that spoke to the shepherds a male or a female? Are there any female angels at all (No offence meant to ladies please..) in chistianity? I think I have answered your points and you seem to have resent an old mail.. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com - "Krsna Shakti (dd) TVS (Radhadesh - B)" <Krsna.Shakti.TVS "vedic astrology" <vedic astrology>; <varahamihira> Friday, January 04, 2002 2:04 AM [vedic astrology] [Hare Rama Krishna] Jesus' chart Dear Pt Sanjay Rath, Hare Rama Krsna. Thank you for your comments. >Agreed that Herod died in 4 BC and that this was close to the eclipse of >that year. So, Jesus could have been born at least 2 years before that >i.e. 6 BC i.e. (-5) or earlier. Why should there be a lap of 2 years between Jesus' birth and the killing of the babies? Indeed, the Jup-Sat. conjunction started in January 7 BC, so the Wise Men thought He would have been born around that time and told Herod He could be at least 2 years old, yet, just after their visit to Herod, when they were led to the place where Jesus was born, He was just a newborn baby! So doesn't that bring us to the date of 5 BC?? Isn't this perfect logic? >Since the various prophesy and >revelations point out the fact that Jesus was born "within 2 years from >the killing of the babes" ordered by Herod, it is likely that this could >be between 7 B.C to 4 BC, but definitely not 3 BC. The date I have given is 5 BC, or 1 year before the demise of Herod. >As regards Tithi, I have read detailed descriptions fitting the stars at >Virgo and am inclined to believe that the Moon may have just risen at the >time of his birth i.e. Moon will be in Lagna or 12th house but just below >the lagna degree if in lagna. Thus, in any case it cannot be amavasya. I don't know what you have read, and don't understand what you mean with fitting the stars at Virgo, but if Orthodox Church claims that it was a dark moon night, shouldn't we accept that? We must know that Orthodox Church has remained much more to the roots of the original christianity than we have in the West. >Revelations:12:1-2 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman >clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a >crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in >birth, and pained to be delivered. As far as the book of Revelations is concerned, there are many figurative descriptions of wonders, disasters etc. and are very difficult to interpret. I have read the book several times and do not believe that in this verse the birth of the Christ is described, and even if so, then it would be unacceptable to interpret it in some astrological way. It is too mystic for this. >As regards the question as to How did Jesus survive if Herod had had all >children aged 2 or less killed, the following explains it well: What is the following? Your sishya, Dhira Krsna dasa Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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