Kalas, and miscelleanous (from discussions from Ramas chart)

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> Sloka 27 - Chapter 4 of Uttara Kalamrita, also gives some clues, where>

Kalidasa, states;> > "The Figures 30 18, 6, 8, 10, 12 and 1 denote the Kalas of

the seven> planets from the Sun onwards. sum up the kalas of the lords of the

9th> Bhava counted from Lagna and The moon. Devide this sum by 12. The rasi>

reckoned from the Moon indicated by this remainder, when occupied by an>

auspicious planet singly, without the association of any malefic, will> raise

the man concerned to the status of Koteswara(?); if by a malefic> only, his

wealth will be in thousands. when this malefic happens to be in> an exalted

position then also the native will be a Koteswara."> > What is Koteswara?

It seems that you are talking about Indu lagna for indications of prosperity.

For Moon it should be 16, not 18.

 

Dbd

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Dear Visti

Koteswara is Crorepati (which is equal to 10 million) ie a

multimillioner.

Jagmeet

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!Dear Visti,Namaste.Your aise a couple of interesting

questions.Vyam Vysadevaya

Namah!-----------------------Dear Gurudeva,

Narasimha, and whomever this discussion may interest.Kalas:Regarding

Kalas(Rays), would the past discussion regarding the same have some close

affinity to the Chapter on Kalas, given in Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra;

"Abhyarashikalachyayah" - Chapter 73 according to Santhanam. The Chapter

describes the way to calculate rays of the various planetsSloka 27 - Chapter 4

of Uttara Kalamrita, also gives some clues, where Kalidasa, states; "The

Figures 30 18, 6, 8, 10, 12 and 1 denote the Kalas of the seven planets from

the Sun onwards. sum up the kalas of the lords of the 9th Bhava counted from

Lagna and The moon. Devide this sum by 12. The rasi reckoned from the Moon

indicated by this remainder, when occupied by an auspicious planet singly,

without the association of any malefic, will raise the man concerned to the

status of Koteswara(?); if by a malefic only, his wealth will be in thousands.

when this malefic happens to be in an exalted position then also the native

will be a Koteswara."What is Koteswara?Koti means a million. So Kotesvara is a

millionaire.Why is the number of rays attributed, different from that given of

Parasa; 10, 9, 5, 5, 7, 8, 5.Well, this is an interesting question. I also went

through passages about the Rasmis or planetary rays in several classics. If I

recall correctly, Balabhadra also gives similar views to Kalidas. However we

should note that both are quite recent authors. therefore we should give

preeminence to Parashara and thise whi share his view. I concluded this after

having seen Dundhiraja's description in the Jataka Bharnam, being similar to

Parasara's. Also in the matter of reductions, they share views, while the other

two authors give different guidelines.Lord Ramas Chara Atmakaraka:Shouldn't it

be Saturn? He had to endure alot of sorrow, as a result.

My idea was, that the Avatar should retain the essence of the previous Avatar,

thus the Sun representing Rama would ocuppy an important role in Krishna's

chart, and the Moon representing Krishna would ocuppy an important role in Sri

Caitanya's chart. In a similar way, Mercury or Jupiter, representing Lord

Vishnu, would ocuppy an important role in Rama's chart. I would vote for

Jupiteras Lord Rama's AK. Bear in mind, that these are just my thoughts, and

not necessarily supported by authorities.

 

Yours,

 

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Monday, January 07, 2002 4:49 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Kalas, and miscelleanous (from discussions from Ramas chart)

JAYA JAGANNATHA!Dear Visti,Namaste.Your aise a couple of interesting

questions.Vyam Vysadevaya

Namah!-----------------------Dear Gurudeva,

Narasimha, and whomever this discussion may interest.Kalas:Regarding

Kalas(Rays), would the past discussion regarding the same have some close

affinity to the Chapter on Kalas, given in Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra;

"Abhyarashikalachyayah" - Chapter 73 according to Santhanam. The Chapter

describes the way to calculate rays of the various planetsSloka 27 - Chapter 4

of Uttara Kalamrita, also gives some clues, where Kalidasa, states; "The

Figures 30 18, 6, 8, 10, 12 and 1 denote the Kalas of the seven planets from

the Sun onwards. sum up the kalas of the lords of the 9th Bhava counted from

Lagna and The moon. Devide this sum by 12. The rasi reckoned from the Moon

indicated by this remainder, when occupied by an auspicious planet singly,

without the association of any malefic, will raise the man concerned to the

status of Koteswara(?); if by a malefic only, his wealth will be in thousands.

when this malefic happens to be in an exalted position then also the native

will be a Koteswara."What is Koteswara?Koti means a million. So Kotesvara is a

millionaire.Why is the number of rays attributed, different from that given of

Parasa; 10, 9, 5, 5, 7, 8, 5.Well, this is an interesting question. I also went

through passages about the Rasmis or planetary rays in several classics. If I

recall correctly, Balabhadra also gives similar views to Kalidas. However we

should note that both are quite recent authors. therefore we should give

preeminence to Parashara and thise whi share his view. I concluded this after

having seen Dundhiraja's description in the Jataka Bharnam, being similar to

Parasara's. Also in the matter of reductions, they share views, while the other

two authors give different guidelines.Lord Ramas Chara Atmakaraka:Shouldn't it

be Saturn? He had to endure alot of sorrow, as a result.

My idea was, that the Avatar should retain the essence of the previous Avatar,

thus the Sun representing Rama would ocuppy an important role in Krishna's

chart, and the Moon representing Krishna would ocuppy an important role in Sri

Caitanya's chart. In a similar way, Mercury or Jupiter, representing Lord

Vishnu, would ocuppy an important role in Rama's chart. I would vote for

Jupiteras Lord Rama's AK. Bear in mind, that these are just my thoughts, and

not necessarily supported by authorities.

 

Yours,

 

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

--------------

Dear Gauruanga, Namaste.

Koti means a million. So Kotesvara is a millionaire.

Visti: Thanx, i was told this afterwards.Well, this is an interesting question.

I also went through passages about the Rasmis or planetary rays in several

classics. If I recall correctly, Balabhadra also gives similar views to

Kalidas. However we should note that both are quite recent authors. therefore

we should give preeminence to Parashara and thise whi share his view. I

concluded this after having seen Dundhiraja's description in the Jataka

Bharnam, being similar to Parasara's. Also in the matter of reductions, they

share views, while the other two authors give different guidelines.

Visti: Well even recent day authors do not differ that much. Satyacharya gives a

completely different set of rays than the others, in Satya Jatakam. Hence i was

hinting at an explanation of the whole theory of Kalas/Rashmis. But thx,

regarding the other books.

 

Actualy, in Sarvath Chintamani i stumbled upon a VERY interesting sloka. Sloka

29, when explaining effects of the 3rd house, Vyankatesh Sharma states that the

number of siblings can be arrived at by 3 methods;

 

1) Rasi and Navamsa of the 3rd house.

2) Rasi and Navamsa of the Lord of 3rd house and Mars.

3) Number of Rashmis of the lord of 3rd house or Mars.

 

Much more interesting now.

 

My idea was, that the Avatar should retain the essence of the previous Avatar,

thus the Sun representing Rama would ocuppy an important role in Krishna's

chart, and the Moon representing Krishna would ocuppy an important role in Sri

Caitanya's chart. In a similar way, Mercury or Jupiter, representing Lord

Vishnu, would ocuppy an important role in Rama's chart. I would vote for

Jupiteras Lord Rama's AK. Bear in mind, that these are just my thoughts, and

not necessarily supported by authorities.

 

Visti: Actually i thought the same. However from the Istha Devata lesson on

SJVC, it was clear that all born individuals Chara Atmakaraka, showed the

purpose of their birth. In that sense, Saturn was the greatest contender, due

to Lord Ramas intense sorrow. Now whether Lord Rama actually was affected by

it, is an entirely different issue, but did infact play a big role in his

incarnation as Lord Rama.

 

Maybe we are thinking too much in sense of his embodiment as Vishnu rather than

his incarnation as Rama. But thats good as in truth they are one and the same..

just as we are all one and the same. I'm trying to hint at the fact that The

Lord was born with two arms and two legs, just like other Human incarnations,

hence he must have been afflicted with a certain ammount of Rajas Guna, like

the rest of us, to be able to reside here on earth. He must still have a very

high ammount of Sattwa Guna thou. Just enough Rajas Guna to be born, loose a

wife, kill Ravana and what not.

 

I'm vouching for Saturn as AK.

 

Thanx for your thoughts, Gauranga-Guru.

Best wishes, Visti.

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Visti!

 

You wrote

 

I'm trying to hint at the fact that The Lord was born with two arms and two

legs, just like other Human incarnations, hence he must have been afflicted

with a certain ammount of Rajas Guna, like the rest of us, to be able to reside

here on earth. He must still have a very high ammount of Sattwa Guna thou. Just

enough Rajas Guna to be born, loose a wife, kill Ravana and what not.

 

Mere killing somebody like Ravana doesn't show that Rama was afflicted by Rajo

Guna. The outcome (killing) doesn't determine what Guna one has in

predominance, however the attitude with which one is performing those actions

will determine under which Guna the person has performed the act. If the person

is killing someone with anger in his mind, then you might say that he has

predominance of Rajo Guna (Fire), whereas Rama already knew the fate of Ravana

and he was just playing his leela and hence he had the predominance of Sattwa.

 

Krsna who born as god thyself, with all the 16 kalas, can't have any other Guna

other than Sattwa, even though he killed so many rakshashas, during his period.

 

Regards

Sarajit

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah!

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Dear Sarajit,

I was referring to the fact, that anyone born on earth has been born through

Rajas Guna, as we are created by Lord Brahma.

 

Without Rajas Guna, we cannot be born as indviduals due to our false ego.

I agree that Rama and Krishna didn't have much of this, but yet they were there.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

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Tuesday, January 08, 2002 5:55 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Kalas, and miscelleanous (from discussions from Ramas chart)

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Visti!

 

You wrote

 

I'm trying to hint at the fact that The Lord was born with two arms and two

legs, just like other Human incarnations, hence he must have been afflicted

with a certain ammount of Rajas Guna, like the rest of us, to be able to reside

here on earth. He must still have a very high ammount of Sattwa Guna thou. Just

enough Rajas Guna to be born, loose a wife, kill Ravana and what not.

 

Mere killing somebody like Ravana doesn't show that Rama was afflicted by Rajo

Guna. The outcome (killing) doesn't determine what Guna one has in

predominance, however the attitude with which one is performing those actions

will determine under which Guna the person has performed the act. If the person

is killing someone with anger in his mind, then you might say that he has

predominance of Rajo Guna (Fire), whereas Rama already knew the fate of Ravana

and he was just playing his leela and hence he had the predominance of Sattwa.

 

Krsna who born as god thyself, with all the 16 kalas, can't have any other Guna

other than Sattwa, even though he killed so many rakshashas, during his period.

 

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>From Narasimha's book, 'Vedic Astrology; An Integrated Approach'

 

Under a section titled 'Planets and Gunas':

 

"Note: There is a misconception today that sattwa guna means patience and not

hurting others. An aggressive response to an offender is often thought to be

raajasik. However, sattwa simply means "the state of being true". Pleasing

others with artificial goodness is not sattwa guna. Punishing a person for his

mistakes is not necessarily rajo guna. If there is some passion and impurity in

one's energetic response, then it shows rajo guna. But, if a warrior fights a

sinning person with no passion or ego, it can still be a saattvic act. Lord Sri

Rama and Sun are examples for this. Sun is a king of the warrior class and yet

he is saattwik. Lord Rama, who was born with his amsa, is a saattwik person

despite killing Ravana and the other demons.

 

Sattva guna simply means purity and truthfulness in one's thoughts and action.

Rajo guna shows some passion, energy and impurity in thoughts and actions. Tamo

guna shows a dark, mean and depraved spirit in thoughts and actions."

 

Hope this is of help. Namaste,

Patrice

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Hare Rama Krishna

-------------

Dear Patrice and Partha,

 

I'm not referring to the Guna of their ideals and

personality. Whenever an object is born, its due to

Brahma.

 

So picture water flowing into Brahma and then Brahma

fills the water into different types of cups. A cup

for human, a cup for four legged animals, a cup for

birds, and etc.

 

The reason Brahma can doso, is because the lord

Vasudeva mixes with Bhu Shakti, and hence causes Rajas

Guna to be born. Hence Brahma divides.

 

Clearly if you look at their charts their ideals and

characters wouldn't excert any rajas guna, due to the

strong Moon in Lagna which is a Sattwic planet.

 

This is the criteria for all Vishnu's incarnations, as

Vasudeva coupled with Sri Shakti is the cause of

Sattwa Guna.

 

"Lets say something is born of Sattwa Guna." Actually

in this line i've made a contradictory statement. If

it was Sattwa Guna, then it wouldn't have been born.

But if it couples with Brahma then it can be born. I

must stress that i'm not referring to the character at

all, but the body.

 

The Lagna will show the predominating Guna of the

Character. But everything born has coupled with Brahma

hence its body is of Rajas Guna offcourse.

 

Hope this clarifies things.

Best wishes, Visti.

 

--- Patrice Curry <patrice.curry wrote:

> From Narasimha's book, 'Vedic Astrology; An

> Integrated Approach'

>

> Under a section titled 'Planets and Gunas':

>

> "Note: There is a misconception today that sattwa

> guna means patience and not hurting others. An

> aggressive response to an offender is often thought

> to be raajasik. However, sattwa simply means "the

> state of being true". Pleasing others with

> artificial goodness is not sattwa guna. Punishing a

> person for his mistakes is not necessarily rajo

> guna. If there is some passion and impurity in one's

> energetic response, then it shows rajo guna. But, if

> a warrior fights a sinning person with no passion or

> ego, it can still be a saattvic act. Lord Sri Rama

> and Sun are examples for this. Sun is a king of the

> warrior class and yet he is saattwik. Lord Rama, who

> was born with his amsa, is a saattwik person despite

> killing Ravana and the other demons.

>

> Sattva guna simply means purity and truthfulness in

> one's thoughts and action. Rajo guna shows some

> passion, energy and impurity in thoughts and

> actions. Tamo guna shows a dark, mean and depraved

> spirit in thoughts and actions."

>

> Hope this is of help. Namaste,

> Patrice

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

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Dear Gauranga

Hare Krishna

You have raised some interesting points about the kala and the

methodology. narasimha and I had a detailed discussion on this earlier. I

had raised some points. Firstly, bear in mind that the sanskrit version

available today is of recent origin and this is very different from the

sanskrit used by Parasara in the Rig Veda. It is unlikely that the same

person could be writing in different versions of the same language

indicating that this is the compilation of a Pundit of UP done over many

years by collecting stanza's from the hiomes of Pundits.

My points: Parasara was far too intelligent to suggest something as

foolish as dividing any number above 12 by 12. Lets say the ninth lord is

Sun and it has 30 kala. Why 30? Why not 6 when the result is one and the

same by the process described. Take any chart and try this point out.

Similarly, the Kala for the Moon is 18 which is, technically 6 as when this

is divided by 12 the remainder is 6. So, principally the kala for the sun &

Moon are the same althought the figures seem different. It is unlikely that

Parasara would be fooling anyone. instead, there is a serious error in the

entire process itself.

With best wishes

Sanjay Rath

http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

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Monday, January 07, 2002 9:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Kalas, and miscelleanous (from discussions

from Ramas chart)

 

 

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Visti,

 

Namaste.

 

Your aise a couple of interesting questions.

 

 

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah!

-----------------------

Dear Gurudeva, Narasimha, and whomever this discussion may interest.

 

Kalas:

Regarding Kalas(Rays), would the past discussion regarding the same have

some close affinity to the Chapter on Kalas, given in Brihat Parasara Hora

Shastra; "Abhyarashikalachyayah" - Chapter 73 according to Santhanam. The

Chapter describes the way to calculate rays of the various planets

 

Sloka 27 - Chapter 4 of Uttara Kalamrita, also gives some clues, where

Kalidasa, states;

 

"The Figures 30 18, 6, 8, 10, 12 and 1 denote the Kalas of the seven planets

from the Sun onwards. sum up the kalas of the lords of the 9th Bhava counted

from Lagna and The moon. Devide this sum by 12. The rasi reckoned from the

Moon indicated by this remainder, when occupied by an auspicious planet

singly, without the association of any malefic, will raise the man concerned

to the status of Koteswara(?); if by a malefic only, his wealth will be in

thousands. when this malefic happens to be in an exalted position then also

the native will be a Koteswara."

 

What is Koteswara?

 

Koti means a million. So Kotesvara is a millionaire.

 

Why is the number of rays attributed, different from that given of Parasa;

10, 9, 5, 5, 7, 8, 5.

 

Well, this is an interesting question. I also went through passages about

the Rasmis or planetary rays in several classics. If I recall correctly,

Balabhadra also gives similar views to Kalidas. However we should note that

both are quite recent authors. therefore we should give preeminence to

Parashara and thise whi share his view. I concluded this after having seen

Dundhiraja's description in the Jataka Bharnam, being similar to Parasara's.

Also in the matter of reductions, they share views, while the other two

authors give different guidelines.

 

Lord Ramas Chara Atmakaraka:

Shouldn't it be Saturn? He had to endure alot of sorrow, as a result.

 

My idea was, that the Avatar should retain the essence of the previous

Avatar, thus the Sun representing Rama would ocuppy an important role in

Krishna's chart, and the Moon representing Krishna would ocuppy an important

role in Sri Caitanya's chart. In a similar way, Mercury or Jupiter,

representing Lord Vishnu, would ocuppy an important role in Rama's chart. I

would vote for Jupiteras Lord Rama's AK. Bear in mind, that these are just

my thoughts, and not necessarily supported by authorities.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

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--- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote:

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah!

>

----------------------

> Dear Sarajit,

> I was referring to the fact, that anyone born on

> earth has been born through

> Rajas Guna, as we are created by Lord Brahma.

>

> Without Rajas Guna, we cannot be born as indviduals

> due to our false ego.

> I agree that Rama and Krishna didn't have much of

> this, but yet they were

> there.

 

Pls consider this verse from the BhagavadGita, 9.11:

 

avajAnanti mAM mUDhA mAnuShIm tanumAshritam.h |

paraM bhAvamajAnanto mama bhUtamaheshvaram.h ||

 

Clearly the Lord reprimands those who consider him to

be made of same stuff as others are.

Any commentary is sure to clarify further.

 

There are many such verses in the Gita itself (4.09,

7.12, 15th chapter: ksharamAtIto.aham..., 11th chapter

for even more), wherein one is asked not to count the

Lord in the same category as mortals. See 7.12 in

particular for knowing how the Lord stands w.r.t. the

three guNAs.

 

Pls consider this verse from the BhagavadGita:

 

avajAnanti mAM mUDhA mAnuShIm tanumAshritam.h |

paraM bhAvamajAnanto mama bhUtamaheshvaram.h ( 9.11)||

 

Clearly the Lord reprimands those who consider him to

be made of same stuff as others are.

Any commentary is sure to clarify further.

 

There are many such verses in the Gita itself (4.09,

7.12, 15th chapter: ksharamAtIto.aham..., 11th chapter

for even more), wherein one is asked not to count the

Lord in the same category as mortals.

 

Also refer to the second chapter of BPHS

(shRiShTikarmakathana-adhyaaya) where the avataaraas

such as Rama, Krishna, Nrisimha etc are said to be

pUrNa-avataraas. How can they be pUrNa if they were to

really suffer agony on loss of wife, if they were

really to fear an enemy etc?

 

Regards,

Nomadeva

 

 

 

 

 

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Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:24 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Kalas, and miscelleanous (from discussions

from Ramas chart)

 

 

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> ------------------------

> Dear Gauranga

> Hare Krishna

> You have raised some interesting points about the kala and the

> methodology. narasimha and I had a detailed discussion on this earlier. I

> had raised some points. Firstly, bear in mind that the sanskrit version

> available today is of recent origin and this is very different from the

> sanskrit used by Parasara in the Rig Veda. It is unlikely that the same

> person could be writing in different versions of the same language

> indicating that this is the compilation of a Pundit of UP done over many

> years by collecting stanza's from the hiomes of Pundits.

> My points: Parasara was far too intelligent to suggest something as

> foolish as dividing any number above 12 by 12. Lets say the ninth lord is

> Sun and it has 30 kala. Why 30? Why not 6 when the result is one and the

> same by the process described. Take any chart and try this point out.

> Similarly, the Kala for the Moon is 18 which is, technically 6 as when

this

> is divided by 12 the remainder is 6. So, principally the kala for the sun

&

> Moon are the same althought the figures seem different. It is unlikely

that

> Parasara would be fooling anyone. instead, there is a serious error in the

> entire process itself.

> With best wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

> -

> "Gauranga Das" <gauranga

> <vedic astrology>

> Monday, January 07, 2002 9:19 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Kalas, and miscelleanous (from discussions

> from Ramas chart)

>

>

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Namaste.

>

> Your aise a couple of interesting questions.

>

>

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah!

> -----------------------

> Dear Gurudeva, Narasimha, and whomever this discussion may interest.

>

> Kalas:

> Regarding Kalas(Rays), would the past discussion regarding the same have

> some close affinity to the Chapter on Kalas, given in Brihat Parasara Hora

> Shastra; "Abhyarashikalachyayah" - Chapter 73 according to Santhanam. The

> Chapter describes the way to calculate rays of the various planets

>

> Sloka 27 - Chapter 4 of Uttara Kalamrita, also gives some clues, where

> Kalidasa, states;

>

> "The Figures 30 18, 6, 8, 10, 12 and 1 denote the Kalas of the seven

planets

> from the Sun onwards. sum up the kalas of the lords of the 9th Bhava

counted

> from Lagna and The moon. Devide this sum by 12. The rasi reckoned from the

> Moon indicated by this remainder, when occupied by an auspicious planet

> singly, without the association of any malefic, will raise the man

concerned

> to the status of Koteswara(?); if by a malefic only, his wealth will be in

> thousands. when this malefic happens to be in an exalted position then

also

> the native will be a Koteswara."

>

> What is Koteswara?

>

> Koti means a million. So Kotesvara is a millionaire.

>

> Why is the number of rays attributed, different from that given of Parasa;

> 10, 9, 5, 5, 7, 8, 5.

>

> Well, this is an interesting question. I also went through passages about

> the Rasmis or planetary rays in several classics. If I recall correctly,

> Balabhadra also gives similar views to Kalidas. However we should note

that

> both are quite recent authors. therefore we should give preeminence to

> Parashara and thise whi share his view. I concluded this after having seen

> Dundhiraja's description in the Jataka Bharnam, being similar to

Parasara's.

> Also in the matter of reductions, they share views, while the other two

> authors give different guidelines.

>

> Lord Ramas Chara Atmakaraka:

> Shouldn't it be Saturn? He had to endure alot of sorrow, as a result.

>

> My idea was, that the Avatar should retain the essence of the previous

> Avatar, thus the Sun representing Rama would ocuppy an important role in

> Krishna's chart, and the Moon representing Krishna would ocuppy an

important

> role in Sri Caitanya's chart. In a similar way, Mercury or Jupiter,

> representing Lord Vishnu, would ocuppy an important role in Rama's chart.

I

> would vote for Jupiteras Lord Rama's AK. Bear in mind, that these are just

> my thoughts, and not necessarily supported by authorities.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga

> Jyotish Remedies:

> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> Phone:+36-309-140-839

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Gurudeva,

 

Pranaams.

 

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

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> Dear Gauranga

> Hare Krishna

> You have raised some interesting points about the kala and the

> methodology. narasimha and I had a detailed discussion on this earlier. I

> had raised some points. Firstly, bear in mind that the sanskrit version

> available today is of recent origin and this is very different from the

> sanskrit used by Parasara in the Rig Veda. It is unlikely that the same

> person could be writing in different versions of the same language

> indicating that this is the compilation of a Pundit of UP done over many

> years by collecting stanza's from the hiomes of Pundits.

> My points: Parasara was far too intelligent to suggest something as

> foolish as dividing any number above 12 by 12. Lets say the ninth lord is

> Sun and it has 30 kala. Why 30? Why not 6 when the result is one and the

> same by the process described. Take any chart and try this point out.

> Similarly, the Kala for the Moon is 18 which is, technically 6 as when

this

> is divided by 12 the remainder is 6. So, principally the kala for the sun

&

> Moon are the same althought the figures seem different. It is unlikely

that

> Parasara would be fooling anyone. instead, there is a serious error in the

> entire process itself.

> With best wishes

> Sanjay Rath

 

Maybe I'm missing something, but the ambiguity pinted out by you is there in

Uttara Kalamrita, where Kalidas gives 30 Kalas to the Sun and 18 to the

Moon. However, Parasara gives 10 Kalas to the Sun and 9 to the Moon. This is

also supported by Jatak Bharnam as I have said. Why is this considered to be

an abiguity?

 

Your shishya,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Visti!

 

The human life in this world is full of such contradictions as you

mentioned. This is nothing but called "Maya" in common parlance. Can you

tell me if Soul is perfect or absulutely pure, how can it take birth, which

is infact a imperfect state of affair. We say that all soul, evolve from

lower yonis to manusya yoni and then can be free from the cycle of birth and

death and attain moksha. Can you tell when the soul has taken its first

birth, thereafter how it reached the lower births (yonis), as a such soul,

having being come from the paramatma should tend to go higher in spiritual

plane and not lower. Many such questions are unanswerable, and hence the

contradictions always existed and will always exist.

 

> "Lets say something is born of Sattwa Guna." Actually

> in this line i've made a contradictory statement. If

> it was Sattwa Guna, then it wouldn't have been born.

> But if it couples with Brahma then it can be born. I

> must stress that i'm not referring to the character at

> all, but the body.

 

 

The gunas are associated with mind of the Soul and not the body as the

actions, which are manifestation of one guna comes from the Manas (Mind)...

 

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Sarajit