Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 Dear Pt Sanjay Rath, Jaya Jagannath! Some more thoughts on Jesus' chart: 1) Why do we reject so distinctly charts after March/April 4 BC? OK, because Herod died in 4 BC. But do we know correctly which Herod was it who ordered the murder of children in Judea? After Herod the Great died in 4 BC, another Herod took over, Herod Antipas, who was the same who ruled when Pilatus executed Jesus. 2) Only one of the Gospels (Matthew) mentions the murdering of the children by Herod, the other Gospels don't speak about it. E.g. the Gospel of Lucas, which is the most reliable historically, mentions he grew up peacefully in Nazareth, and his parents usually went every year to Betlehem to celebrate the Pascha-festival. The same Gospel describes that when He started preaching He was about 30 years old, and that was in 28 AD. I re-examined the chart given to me by a channeling with accurate ephemeris, namely 21st March, 2 BC (-3). given below. I accept this one as the true chart of Jesus... March 21, -2 Time: 5:39:00 Time Zone: 2:21:00 (East of GMT) Longitude: 35 E 13' 00" Latitude: 31 N 43' 00" Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (99.43% left) Weekday: Tuesday Nakshatra: Punarvasu (24.17% left) Yoga: Dhriti Karana: Vishti Hora Lord: Venus Sunrise: 6:07:08 Sunset: 18:11:32 Janma Ghatis: 58.8278 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak Lagna 25 Pi 12' 14.71" Revathi 3 Pi Aq - Sun 6 Ar 02' 31.40" Aswini 2 Ar Ta PiK Moon 0 Cn 06' 39.44" Punarvasu 4 Cn Cn DK Mars 25 Sg 37' 51.42" Poo.Shaa. 4 Sg Sc AK Mercury 21 Ar 52' 00.79" Bharani 3 Ar Li AmK Jupiter 5 Cn 38' 37.69" Pushyami 1 Cn Le PK Venus 20 Aq 04' 59.94" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar BK Saturn 8 Ta 32' 29.58" Krittika 4 Ta Pi MK Rahu 28 Aq 22' 21.19" Poo.Bhaa. 3 Aq Ge GK Ketu 28 Le 22' 21.19" U.Pha. 1 Le Sg - +---------------------------+ |Asc HL |Sun Mer |Sat | | | | | | | | | | | | |---------------++----------| |Ven Rah | |Moo | | | | Jup | |GL | | | |-----------------| Rasi |-----------| | | |Ket | | | | | | | | | |----------------++----------| |Mar |AL |Mnd Glk | | | | | | | | | | | | +-----------------------------+ Your sishya, Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 Another chart for Christ. Sorry I can't agree. First the Moon would seem to be in Gemini, I suspect your ephemeris on this. Next in the Bhava Chart Rahu & Ketu go to Lagna & 7th, not really possible I think. Next your idea about the possibility of Herod Antipas being the Herod in the Bible is not really enough to sustantiate your argument. Jupiter in deep exaltation aspecting lagna sounds very nice, but has bad aspects of Saturn and Mars. Also Jupiter in Cancer in 5th and exalted Sun in Aries 2nd is a wealthy native How can this Jesus be born in poverty? Venus in 12th increases his appetite for luxury, which is given by Jupiter in Cancer. Mercury, Badhakesh, can not be expected to be express the truth of simple love for humanity when blasted by the overpowering exalted Sun. This Mercury is too hot and Aries makes it more impetuous still. Also birth in Visti Karana suggests an impure intellect. If you look for use of weapons in relation to Mars you have Saturn in Taurus - Jesus weapon was pure love. If you can counter that lot I would be interested. Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2002 Report Share Posted January 27, 2002 om gurave namah------------------------Dear Gordon, Ditto to that. Where on earth are you? Mr Thakur has been waiting anxiously and was also at my place today for some discussions.With best wishesSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com - GWBrennan (AT) aol (DOT) com vedic astrology Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:38 PM Re: [vedic astrology] [Hare Rama Krishna] Jesus' chart Dear Krsna Another chart for Christ. Sorry I can't agree. First the Moon would seem to be in Gemini, I suspect your ephemeris on this. Next in the Bhava Chart Rahu & Ketu go to Lagna & 7th, not really possible I think. Next your idea about the possibility of Herod Antipas being the Herod in the Bible is not really enough to sustantiate your argument. Jupiter in deep exaltation aspecting lagna sounds very nice, but has bad aspects of Saturn and Mars. Also Jupiter in Cancer in 5th and exalted Sun in Aries 2nd is a wealthy native How can this Jesus be born in poverty? Venus in 12th increases his appetite for luxury, which is given by Jupiter in Cancer. Mercury, Badhakesh, can not be expected to be express the truth of simple love for humanity when blasted by the overpowering exalted Sun. This Mercury is too hot and Aries makes it more impetuous still. Also birth in Visti Karana suggests an impure intellect. If you look for use of weapons in relation to Mars you have Saturn in Taurus - Jesus weapon was pure love. If you can counter that lot I would be interested. Gordon Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2002 Report Share Posted January 27, 2002 om gurave namah ------------------------ Dear Dhira Krishna, Its a tough job and we need a lot more input than just that. So, now we even don't know whether Herod the child killer was the same as the one who died after the eclipse. Perhaps there were two herods and the new Herod was trying to live up to the name of his predecessor..let us wait for history to throw up facts before we venture more into this. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com - "Krsna Shakti TVS" <Krsna.Shakti.TVS "Varahamihira" <varahamihira>; <vedic astrology> Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:32 PM [vedic astrology] [Hare Rama Krishna] Jesus' chart Dear Pt Sanjay Rath, Jaya Jagannath! Some more thoughts on Jesus' chart: 1) Why do we reject so distinctly charts after March/April 4 BC? OK, because Herod died in 4 BC. But do we know correctly which Herod was it who ordered the murder of children in Judea? After Herod the Great died in 4 BC, another Herod took over, Herod Antipas, who was the same who ruled when Pilatus executed Jesus. 2) Only one of the Gospels (Matthew) mentions the murdering of the children by Herod, the other Gospels don't speak about it. E.g. the Gospel of Lucas, which is the most reliable historically, mentions he grew up peacefully in Nazareth, and his parents usually went every year to Betlehem to celebrate the Pascha-festival. The same Gospel describes that when He started preaching He was about 30 years old, and that was in 28 AD. I re-examined the chart given to me by a channeling with accurate ephemeris, namely 21st March, 2 BC (-3). given below. I accept this one as the true chart of Jesus... March 21, -2 Time: 5:39:00 Time Zone: 2:21:00 (East of GMT) Longitude: 35 E 13' 00" Latitude: 31 N 43' 00" Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (99.43% left) Weekday: Tuesday Nakshatra: Punarvasu (24.17% left) Yoga: Dhriti Karana: Vishti Hora Lord: Venus Sunrise: 6:07:08 Sunset: 18:11:32 Janma Ghatis: 58.8278 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak Lagna 25 Pi 12' 14.71" Revathi 3 Pi Aq - Sun 6 Ar 02' 31.40" Aswini 2 Ar Ta PiK Moon 0 Cn 06' 39.44" Punarvasu 4 Cn Cn DK Mars 25 Sg 37' 51.42" Poo.Shaa. 4 Sg Sc AK Mercury 21 Ar 52' 00.79" Bharani 3 Ar Li AmK Jupiter 5 Cn 38' 37.69" Pushyami 1 Cn Le PK Venus 20 Aq 04' 59.94" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar BK Saturn 8 Ta 32' 29.58" Krittika 4 Ta Pi MK Rahu 28 Aq 22' 21.19" Poo.Bhaa. 3 Aq Ge GK Ketu 28 Le 22' 21.19" U.Pha. 1 Le Sg - +---------------------------+ |Asc HL |Sun Mer |Sat | | | | | | | | | | | | |---------------++----------| |Ven Rah | |Moo | | | | Jup | |GL | | | |-----------------| Rasi |-----------| | | |Ket | | | | | | | | | |----------------++----------| |Mar |AL |Mnd Glk | | | | | | | | | | | | +-----------------------------+ Your sishya, Dhira Krsna dasa Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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