Vedic remedies

February 18, 2002

Hari Om

Most people in India today seek shelter by worshipping idols of gods

and goddesses whose miraculous stories they have heard from

childhood. Faith in gods and goddesses is so strong that formal

worship is considered to be essential. If there is a problem in an

individual's life or a special event at home, a priest/astrologer is

consulted with or without a horoscope. Any remedies suggested to ward

off an evil glance or attract beneficial benedictions are undertaken

carefully and performed in all sincerity. These remedies mostly

involve making material offerings to specific gods at certain times

on auspicious days.

Lord Krishna says, " I am the Ultimate Consciousness situated within

the heart of all living entities and I am the beginning, the middle

and the end as well of all living entities".

It clearly tells as that God is situated within our hearts. Mahatma

Gandhi was against consulting priests or making offerings to the

idols of various gods and goddesses. He did not believe in performing

yajnas to ward off `evil' propensities, to fight against fatal

diseases, or guard against unforeseen calamities. However, he

believed in chanting the name of God and considered it to be the

healer of all ills

Lord Krishna clarifies "Men whose discrimination has been blunted by

worldly desires, establish this or that ritual or cult and resort to

various deities, according to the impulse of their inborn natures.

But it does not matter what deity a devotee chooses to worship. If he

has faith, I (the Manifestation of God) make his faith unwavering.

Endowed with the faith I give him, he worships that deity, and gets

from it everything he prays for. In reality, I alone am the giver.

But these men of small understanding only pray for what is transient

and perishable. The worshippers of the devas will go to the devas.

So, also, my devotees will come to me."

Why do astrologers while giving remedies ask us to worship different

deities for different problems. It's like purchasing different

products from different shops but God is like a big department store,

everything is available there. I personally feel it encourages

materialistic thinking rather than spiritual and unconditional love

for God.

When once I asked an astrologer this question he said `even though

the pharmacy contains lot of medicines, you only get what is

prescribed'. Like this one has to approach God in a particular form

like Vishnu or Shiva. When the scriptures say Vishnu is Shiva and

Shiva is Vishnu. Why there is a difference is still not clear.

I will be highly obliged if some learned members in this discussion

group can clarify the relevance of Vedic remedies like worshipping

different Gods for different problems and the selection of ishta

devata as per birth chart etc

Tri

February 19, 2002

Dear sir,

Vedic astrology group boost up our knowledge. But from the past three

months observation I feel that it is almost academic.

You know your chart best and devatas of each planets.

you please mark everydays ruling star and start writing every day incidents

which are prominent. After three months you will learn that certain things

happens on certain nakshatras frequently. You will also observe some

negative nakshatras also.

Start praying to a Devata in proper way for some months, continue

observing incidents in life . If u could note down the time also,it is good.

You will observe things getting changing. Your Devatas will be the ruler of

the major incidents. Depending on the strength of planets, your mind,

Devathas nature positive or negetive things happens and you will feel that

prayer to particular God has effect.

This is result of my experiments. This mail comes to you and not to

vedic astrology group.

It is always better to find Ista Devata and do prayer.

regards,

sreekumar

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tri1708 <tri1708

Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:39 PM

[vedic astrology] Vedic remedies

> Hari Om

>

> Most people in India today seek shelter by worshipping idols of gods

> and goddesses whose miraculous stories they have heard from

> childhood. Faith in gods and goddesses is so strong that formal

> worship is considered to be essential. If there is a problem in an

> individual's life or a special event at home, a priest/astrologer is

> consulted with or without a horoscope. Any remedies suggested to ward

> off an evil glance or attract beneficial benedictions are undertaken

> carefully and performed in all sincerity. These remedies mostly

> involve making material offerings to specific gods at certain times

> on auspicious days.

>

> Lord Krishna says, " I am the Ultimate Consciousness situated within

> the heart of all living entities and I am the beginning, the middle

> and the end as well of all living entities".

>

> It clearly tells as that God is situated within our hearts. Mahatma

> Gandhi was against consulting priests or making offerings to the

> idols of various gods and goddesses. He did not believe in performing

> yajnas to ward off `evil' propensities, to fight against fatal

> diseases, or guard against unforeseen calamities. However, he

> believed in chanting the name of God and considered it to be the

> healer of all ills

>

> Lord Krishna clarifies "Men whose discrimination has been blunted by

> worldly desires, establish this or that ritual or cult and resort to

> various deities, according to the impulse of their inborn natures.

> But it does not matter what deity a devotee chooses to worship. If he

> has faith, I (the Manifestation of God) make his faith unwavering.

> Endowed with the faith I give him, he worships that deity, and gets

> from it everything he prays for. In reality, I alone am the giver.

> But these men of small understanding only pray for what is transient

> and perishable. The worshippers of the devas will go to the devas.

> So, also, my devotees will come to me."

>

> Why do astrologers while giving remedies ask us to worship different

> deities for different problems. It's like purchasing different

> products from different shops but God is like a big department store,

> everything is available there. I personally feel it encourages

> materialistic thinking rather than spiritual and unconditional love

> for God.

>

> When once I asked an astrologer this question he said `even though

> the pharmacy contains lot of medicines, you only get what is

> prescribed'. Like this one has to approach God in a particular form

> like Vishnu or Shiva. When the scriptures say Vishnu is Shiva and

> Shiva is Vishnu. Why there is a difference is still not clear.

>

> I will be highly obliged if some learned members in this discussion

> group can clarify the relevance of Vedic remedies like worshipping

> different Gods for different problems and the selection of ishta

> devata as per birth chart etc

>

> Tri

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

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February 19, 2002

Rightly said Tri. One thing which always wonders me is that how can worshipping

gods or wearing stones or chanting mantras can ward of evil.

If it all depends on the position of planets at the time of birth and the

planets in transit, then how can stones, mantras or gods change the natal

position of planets or alter the planets' positions in transit???

Astrology is based on gravitational law of physics and by no means our destiny

can be changed IF one believes COMPLETELY in astrology. Probably the concept of

vedic remedies was started by some astrologers to make money out here in India.

Time is not the BEST but ONLY healer.

Regards,

Jai

tri1708 <tri1708 >To:

<vedic astrology>Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:40

PM[vedic astrology] Vedic remedies

Hari OmMost people in India today seek shelter by worshipping idols of gods and

goddesses whose miraculous stories they have heard from childhood. Faith in

gods and goddesses is so strong that formal worship is considered to be

essential. If there is a problem in an individual's life or a special event at

home, a priest/astrologer is consulted with or without a horoscope. Any

remedies suggested to ward off an evil glance or attract beneficial

benedictions are undertaken carefully and performed in all sincerity. These

remedies mostly involve making material offerings to specific gods at certain

times on auspicious days.Lord Krishna says, " I am the Ultimate Consciousness

situated within the heart of all living entities and I am the beginning, the

middle and the end as well of all living entities".It clearly tells as that

God is situated within our hearts. Mahatma Gandhi was against consulting

priests or making offerings to the idols of various gods and goddesses. He did

not believe in performing yajnas to ward off `evil' propensities, to fight

against fatal diseases, or guard against unforeseen calamities. However, he

believed in chanting the name of God and considered it to be the healer of all

ills Lord Krishna clarifies "Men whose discrimination has been blunted by

worldly desires, establish this or that ritual or cult and resort to various

deities, according to the impulse of their inborn natures. But it does not

matter what deity a devotee chooses to worship. If he has faith, I (the

Manifestation of God) make his faith unwavering. Endowed with the faith I give

him, he worships that deity, and gets from it everything he prays for. In

reality, I alone am the giver. But these men of small understanding only pray

for what is transient and perishable. The worshippers of the devas will go to

the devas. So, also, my devotees will come to me."Why do astrologers while

giving remedies ask us to worship different deities for different problems.

It's like purchasing different products from different shops but God is like a

big department store, everything is available there. I personally feel it

encourages materialistic thinking rather than spiritual and unconditional love

for God. When once I asked an astrologer this question he said `even though the

pharmacy contains lot of medicines, you only get what is prescribed'. Like this

one has to approach God in a particular form like Vishnu or Shiva. When the

scriptures say Vishnu is Shiva and Shiva is Vishnu. Why there is a difference

is still not clear. I will be highly obliged if some learned members in this

discussion group can clarify the relevance of Vedic remedies like worshipping

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February 19, 2002

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Jai,

Namaste.

This is a very deterministic point that you represent. Pleas note the first

chaters of BPHS where Parashara explains that the Grahas are the incarnations

of the Supreme Lord, representing the potencies of the different avataras.

However, Krishna nsays in the Bhagavad-gita that He does not take

responsibility for the good or bad reactions of anyone. He merely bestows then

according to the law of karma. Now if the activities are performed not by His

desire, then by whose desire? They are verily performed by our desire, which

sprouts from our tiny independent free will given by Him.

Therefore it is said in the Vedas that a thorn may be used to relieve the pain

caused by another thorn, if we use it to pull out the other one. So we have

made bad decisions in the past, but now, having proper knowledge we are able to

rectify them.

Of course you are right that the position of the planets will not change. How

will then the chart show the karma of the natve altered by the application of

an Upaya?

First of all you should understand that the indications of the different planets

in the different sings and of all the other astrological parameters are not

one-to-one indications, i.e. the same set of data may represent a set of

different meanings. Thus a very important factor in giving correct predictions

will be intuition, or guidance by the Supersoul. After applying the remedy the

astrologer will say different things than before it, although he sees the same

chart.This is why computer programs will never become as accurate as a gifted

astrologer, who is able to give correct predictions even from incorrect input

data.

And also another important factor in astrology is Prashna, because it is guided

by God when you approach an astrologer to put a query, especially if there's a

certain method for ascertaining the Prashna Lagna like in Prashna Marga. This

will give an insight into the present state of affairs, which may differ from

the indications of the birth chart if proper Upayas are applied properly. So

one should not neglect the Prasna chart in assessing the results of the Upayas.

Of course the birth chart is more or less intact with most people, because very

few will seriuosly apply remedies or worship God to free themselves from karma.

Most people re ap the results of their past karma and prepare their karma for

the next life.

I hope this helps.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

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