Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Partha Let me correct u as per what I have learnt from our Gurudev. I am ignoring the following VRYs as they are not being discussed here: a) weak St related, b) Arudh Lagna related. Dusthan lords in dusthan (other than own) could form weak VRYs (basically UttarKalamrit's definition). However, strong VRYs are formed by 2 CONJOINING dusthan lords in a) dusthan (relatively weaker version), & b) kendra OR KON. So Dr Banerjee's reference chart has a VERY STRONG VRY. Regards Nandan --- partvinu5 <partvinu5 wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> dear doctor<BR> <BR> the principles state that it is two or more dusthana lords in kendra <BR> or dusthana. viz for taurus lagna jupiter in 12th, mars in 8th and <BR> both of them weak and un assoicated. or jupiter and mars in kendra <BR> very strong, viz in 10th house.<BR> <BR> in the example that you had quoted it is a kona!!!.<BR> <BR> regards<BR> partha<BR> vedic astrology, "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip@s...> wrote:<BR> > JAY JAGANNATH<BR> > -------------------<BR> > Dear partha,<BR> > <BR> > In a mail to this group you wrote<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > I think you have heard of Vipareet raj yoga.<BR> > <BR> > dusthana lords in another dusthana weak, dusthana lords in kendras <BR> > strong give this kind of raja yoga that is VRY.<BR> > <BR> > But there must not be too many fellows besides these dusthana lords <BR> > as there might be transfer of power.<BR> > <BR> > 1. Two dusthana planet conjoing in a dusthana. The precondition of <BR> a <BR> > strong VYR of this nature is that the lords should be weak. When <BR> this <BR> > happen the significations of the dusthana suffer and the native <BR> gains <BR> > from it. This mostly happens with the down fall of some of the <BR> > native's enemies. Moreover the relations indicated by the planets <BR> > naisargika and chara karakatwa also suffer when the native gains <BR> from <BR> > the VRY. Here consider 3rd house also as dusthana besides 6/8/12.<BR> > <BR> > 2. Two dusthana lords strongly placed in a kendra (or trikona) and <BR> no <BR> > other planet conjoin them (in such case there will be transfer of <BR> > power to the third planet, whereby the karakatwa of the third <BR> planet <BR> > will gain). Here the planets involved should be strongly placed <BR> > unlike the 1st principle. In this case if the atmakaraka or the <BR> lagna <BR> > has association with VR Yogakaraka, the native will himself gained <BR> > otherwise the native will rise with rise of others.<BR> > <BR> > 3. If the Karaka of duthanas, Saturn is placed in a dusthana-weak ( <BR> > or kendra - strong) as a yogakaraka (Taurus, Libra Lagna).<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > In a hosroscope of a person with Taurus Lagna, all the three <BR> dusthana lords are in the 9th house,viz. Jupiter, Venus and <BR> Mars.Please let me know , how will you interprete it!<BR> > <BR> > Regards<BR> > Dilip Banerjee.<BR> ===== Best wishes Nandan ______________________ Looking for a job? Visit India Careers Visit http://in.careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Dear Anjaneya You are saying the same thing I am (ref varahamihira lesson on VRY). Didnt understand if u meant to say something different. Anyway, Partha's FURTHER question has made me think. But let me put it, in my own way: in the strongest case of all, ie 2 conjoining lords of dusthans in a kendra or kon, if there is no other conjunction & it is not aspected by AK/ lagna-lord, who is gaining at expense of whom? Nandan --- anjaneya11 wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> AUM GURAVE NAMAH<BR> Dear Nandan<BR> <BR> If two dusthana lords are weakly placed in a dusthana, even then it can be very strong VRY, if they are weakly placed (if one among them are debilitated and other is weak, they are placed in enemies house or the dispositor is weakly placed).<BR> <BR> Mere placement of a dusthana lord in other dusthana is mere a veepareeta yoga and has the power to give affluence too, however not like the strong VRYs, which are rare.<BR> <BR> <BR> Pranaam<BR> Anjaneya<BR> <BR> Quoting :<BR> <BR> > <html><body><BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <tt><BR> > Partha<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Let me correct u as per what I have learnt from our Gurudev.<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > I am ignoring the following VRYs as they are not being discussed<BR> > here:<BR><BR> > a) weak St related, b) Arudh Lagna related. <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Dusthan lords in dusthan (other than own) could form weak VRYs<BR><BR> > (basically UttarKalamrit's definition). However, strong VRYs are<BR> > formed<BR><BR> > by 2 CONJOINING dusthan lords in a) dusthan (relatively weaker<BR><BR> > version), & b) kendra OR KON. So Dr Banerjee's reference chart has<BR> > a<BR><BR> > VERY STRONG VRY.<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Regards<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Nandan<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > --- partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: <BR><BR> > <HR><BR><BR> > <html><body><BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <tt><BR><BR> > dear doctor<BR><BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > the principles state that it is two or more dusthana lords in<BR> > kendra<BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > or dusthana. viz for taurus lagna jupiter in 12th, mars in 8th and<BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > both of them weak and un assoicated. or jupiter and mars in kendra<BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > very strong, viz in 10th house.<BR><BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > in the example that you had quoted it is a kona!!!.<BR><BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > regards<BR><BR><BR> > partha<BR><BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > vedic astrology, &quot;Dr.D.Banerjee&quot;<BR><BR> > &lt;drdilip@s...&gt; wrote:<BR><BR><BR> > &gt; JAY JAGANNATH<BR><BR><BR> > &gt; -------------------<BR><BR><BR> > &gt; Dear partha,<BR><BR><BR> > &gt; <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; In a mail to this group you wrote<BR><BR><BR> > &gt; <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; I think you have heard of Vipareet raj yoga.<BR><BR><BR> > &gt; <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; dusthana lords in another dusthana weak, dusthana lords in<BR> > kendras<BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; strong give this kind of raja yoga that is VRY.<BR><BR><BR> > &gt; <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; But there must not be too many fellows besides these<BR> > dusthana<BR><BR> > lords <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; as there might be transfer of power.<BR><BR><BR> > &gt; <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; 1. Two dusthana planet conjoing in a dusthana. The precondition<BR> > of<BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > a <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; strong VYR of this nature is that the lords should be weak.<BR> > When<BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > this <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; happen the significations of the dusthana suffer and the<BR> > native<BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > gains <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; from it. This mostly happens with the down fall of some of<BR> > the<BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; native's enemies. Moreover the relations indicated by the<BR> > planets<BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; naisargika and chara karakatwa also suffer when the native<BR> > gains<BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > from <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; the VRY. Here consider 3rd house also as&nbsp; dusthana<BR> > besides<BR><BR> > 6/8/12.<BR><BR><BR> > &gt; <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; 2. Two dusthana lords strongly placed in a kendra (or trikona)<BR> > and<BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > no <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; other planet conjoin them (in such case there will be transfer<BR> > of<BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; power to the third planet, whereby the karakatwa of the third<BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > planet <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; will gain). Here the planets involved should be strongly<BR> > placed<BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; unlike the 1st principle. In this case if the atmakaraka or<BR> > the<BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > lagna <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; has association with VR Yogakaraka, the native will himself<BR> > gained<BR><BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; otherwise the native will rise with rise of<BR> > others.<BR><BR><BR> > &gt; <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; 3. If the Karaka of duthanas, Saturn is placed in a<BR> > dusthana-weak<BR><BR> > ( <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; or kendra - strong) as a yogakaraka (Taurus, Libra<BR> > Lagna).<BR><BR><BR> > &gt; <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; In a hosroscope of a person with Taurus Lagna, all the three<BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > dusthana lords are in the 9th house,viz. Jupiter, Venus and<BR> > <BR><BR><BR> > Mars.Please let me know , how will you&nbsp; interprete<BR> > it!<BR><BR><BR> > &gt; <BR><BR><BR> > &gt; Regards<BR><BR><BR> > &gt; Dilip Banerjee.<BR><BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > =====<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Best wishes<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Nandan<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > ______________________<BR&g\ t;<BR> > Looking for a job? 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Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 AUM GURAVE NAMAH Dear Nandan If two dusthana lords are weakly placed in a dusthana, even then it can be very strong VRY, if they are weakly placed (if one among them are debilitated and other is weak, they are placed in enemies house or the dispositor is weakly placed). Mere placement of a dusthana lord in other dusthana is mere a veepareeta yoga and has the power to give affluence too, however not like the strong VRYs, which are rare. Pranaam Anjaneya Quoting : > <html><body> > > > <tt> > Partha<BR> > <BR> > Let me correct u as per what I have learnt from our Gurudev.<BR> > <BR> > I am ignoring the following VRYs as they are not being discussed > here:<BR> > a) weak St related, b) Arudh Lagna related. <BR> > <BR> > Dusthan lords in dusthan (other than own) could form weak VRYs<BR> > (basically UttarKalamrit's definition). However, strong VRYs are > formed<BR> > by 2 CONJOINING dusthan lords in a) dusthan (relatively weaker<BR> > version), & b) kendra OR KON. So Dr Banerjee's reference chart has > a<BR> > VERY STRONG VRY.<BR> > <BR> > Regards<BR> > <BR> > Nandan<BR> > <BR> > --- partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: <BR> > <HR><BR> > <html><body><BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <tt><BR> > dear doctor<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > the principles state that it is two or more dusthana lords in > kendra<BR> > <BR><BR> > or dusthana. viz for taurus lagna jupiter in 12th, mars in 8th and > <BR><BR> > both of them weak and un assoicated. or jupiter and mars in kendra > <BR><BR> > very strong, viz in 10th house.<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > in the example that you had quoted it is a kona!!!.<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > regards<BR><BR> > partha<BR><BR> > <BR> > vedic astrology, "Dr.D.Banerjee"<BR> > <drdilip@s...> wrote:<BR><BR> > > JAY JAGANNATH<BR><BR> > > -------------------<BR><BR> > > Dear partha,<BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > In a mail to this group you wrote<BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > I think you have heard of Vipareet raj yoga.<BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > dusthana lords in another dusthana weak, dusthana lords in > kendras<BR> > <BR><BR> > > strong give this kind of raja yoga that is VRY.<BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > But there must not be too many fellows besides these > dusthana<BR> > lords <BR><BR> > > as there might be transfer of power.<BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > 1. Two dusthana planet conjoing in a dusthana. The precondition > of<BR> > <BR><BR> > a <BR><BR> > > strong VYR of this nature is that the lords should be weak. > When<BR> > <BR><BR> > this <BR><BR> > > happen the significations of the dusthana suffer and the > native<BR> > <BR><BR> > gains <BR><BR> > > from it. This mostly happens with the down fall of some of > the<BR> > <BR><BR> > > native's enemies. Moreover the relations indicated by the > planets<BR> > <BR><BR> > > naisargika and chara karakatwa also suffer when the native > gains<BR> > <BR><BR> > from <BR><BR> > > the VRY. Here consider 3rd house also as dusthana > besides<BR> > 6/8/12.<BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > 2. Two dusthana lords strongly placed in a kendra (or trikona) > and<BR> > <BR><BR> > no <BR><BR> > > other planet conjoin them (in such case there will be transfer > of<BR> > <BR><BR> > > power to the third planet, whereby the karakatwa of the third > <BR><BR> > planet <BR><BR> > > will gain). Here the planets involved should be strongly > placed<BR> > <BR><BR> > > unlike the 1st principle. In this case if the atmakaraka or > the<BR> > <BR><BR> > lagna <BR><BR> > > has association with VR Yogakaraka, the native will himself > gained<BR> > <BR><BR> > > otherwise the native will rise with rise of > others.<BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > 3. If the Karaka of duthanas, Saturn is placed in a > dusthana-weak<BR> > ( <BR><BR> > > or kendra - strong) as a yogakaraka (Taurus, Libra > Lagna).<BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > In a hosroscope of a person with Taurus Lagna, all the three > <BR><BR> > dusthana lords are in the 9th house,viz. Jupiter, Venus and > <BR><BR> > Mars.Please let me know , how will you interprete > it!<BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > Regards<BR><BR> > > Dilip Banerjee.<BR><BR> > <BR> > <BR> > =====<BR> > <BR> > Best wishes<BR> > <BR> > Nandan<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > ______________________<BR> > Looking for a job? 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