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Partha

 

Let me correct u as per what I have learnt from our Gurudev.

 

I am ignoring the following VRYs as they are not being discussed here:

a) weak St related, b) Arudh Lagna related.

 

Dusthan lords in dusthan (other than own) could form weak VRYs

(basically UttarKalamrit's definition). However, strong VRYs are formed

by 2 CONJOINING dusthan lords in a) dusthan (relatively weaker

version), & b) kendra OR KON. So Dr Banerjee's reference chart has a

VERY STRONG VRY.

 

Regards

 

Nandan

 

--- partvinu5 <partvinu5 wrote:

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dear doctor<BR>

<BR>

the principles state that it is two or more dusthana lords in kendra

<BR>

or dusthana. viz for taurus lagna jupiter in 12th, mars in 8th and <BR>

both of them weak and un assoicated. or jupiter and mars in kendra <BR>

very strong, viz in 10th house.<BR>

<BR>

in the example that you had quoted it is a kona!!!.<BR>

<BR>

regards<BR>

partha<BR>

 

vedic astrology, "Dr.D.Banerjee"

<drdilip@s...> wrote:<BR>

> JAY JAGANNATH<BR>

> -------------------<BR>

> Dear partha,<BR>

> <BR>

> In a mail to this group you wrote<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> I think you have heard of Vipareet raj yoga.<BR>

> <BR>

> dusthana lords in another dusthana weak, dusthana lords in kendras

<BR>

> strong give this kind of raja yoga that is VRY.<BR>

> <BR>

> But there must not be too many fellows besides these dusthana

lords <BR>

> as there might be transfer of power.<BR>

> <BR>

> 1. Two dusthana planet conjoing in a dusthana. The precondition of

<BR>

a <BR>

> strong VYR of this nature is that the lords should be weak. When

<BR>

this <BR>

> happen the significations of the dusthana suffer and the native

<BR>

gains <BR>

> from it. This mostly happens with the down fall of some of the

<BR>

> native's enemies. Moreover the relations indicated by the planets

<BR>

> naisargika and chara karakatwa also suffer when the native gains

<BR>

from <BR>

> the VRY. Here consider 3rd house also as  dusthana besides

6/8/12.<BR>

> <BR>

> 2. Two dusthana lords strongly placed in a kendra (or trikona) and

<BR>

no <BR>

> other planet conjoin them (in such case there will be transfer of

<BR>

> power to the third planet, whereby the karakatwa of the third <BR>

planet <BR>

> will gain). Here the planets involved should be strongly placed

<BR>

> unlike the 1st principle. In this case if the atmakaraka or the

<BR>

lagna <BR>

> has association with VR Yogakaraka, the native will himself gained

<BR>

> otherwise the native will rise with rise of others.<BR>

> <BR>

> 3. If the Karaka of duthanas, Saturn is placed in a dusthana-weak

( <BR>

> or kendra - strong) as a yogakaraka (Taurus, Libra Lagna).<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> In a hosroscope of a person with Taurus Lagna, all the three <BR>

dusthana lords are in the 9th house,viz. Jupiter, Venus and <BR>

Mars.Please let me know , how will you  interprete it!<BR>

> <BR>

> Regards<BR>

> Dilip Banerjee.<BR>

 

 

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Dear Anjaneya

 

You are saying the same thing I am (ref varahamihira lesson on VRY).

Didnt understand if u meant to say something different. Anyway,

Partha's FURTHER question has made me think. But let me put it, in my

own way: in the strongest case of all, ie 2 conjoining lords of

dusthans in a kendra or kon, if there is no other conjunction & it is

not aspected by AK/ lagna-lord, who is gaining at expense of whom?

 

Nandan

 

--- anjaneya11 wrote:

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AUM GURAVE NAMAH<BR>

Dear Nandan<BR>

<BR>

If two dusthana lords are weakly placed in a dusthana, even then it can

be very strong VRY, if they are weakly placed (if one among them are

debilitated and other is weak, they are placed in enemies house or the

dispositor is weakly placed).<BR>

<BR>

Mere placement of a dusthana lord in other dusthana is mere a

veepareeta yoga and has the power to give affluence too, however not

like the strong VRYs, which are rare.<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

Pranaam<BR>

Anjaneya<BR>

<BR>

Quoting  :<BR>

<BR>

> <html><body><BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <tt><BR>

>  Partha<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> Let me correct u as per what I have learnt from our

Gurudev.<BR><BR>

>  <BR><BR>

> I am ignoring the following VRYs as they are not being

discussed<BR>

> here:<BR><BR>

> a) weak St related, b) Arudh Lagna related. <BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> Dusthan lords in dusthan (other than own) could form weak

VRYs<BR><BR>

> (basically UttarKalamrit's definition). However, strong VRYs

are<BR>

> formed<BR><BR>

> by 2 CONJOINING dusthan lords in a) dusthan (relatively

weaker<BR><BR>

> version), &amp; b) kendra OR KON. So Dr Banerjee's reference

chart has<BR>

> a<BR><BR>

> VERY STRONG VRY.<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> Regards<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> Nandan<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> --- partvinu5 &lt;partvinu5&gt; wrote:

<BR><BR>

> &lt;HR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &lt;html&gt;&lt;body&gt;<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> &lt;tt&gt;<BR><BR>

> dear doctor&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> the principles state that it is two or more dusthana lords in<BR>

> kendra<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> or dusthana. viz for taurus lagna jupiter in 12th, mars in 8th

and<BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> both of them weak and un assoicated. or jupiter and mars in

kendra<BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> very strong, viz in 10th house.&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> in the example that you had quoted it is a

kona!!!.&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> regards&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> partha&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> vedic astrology,

&amp;quot;Dr.D.Banerjee&amp;quot;<BR><BR>

> &amp;lt;drdilip@s...&amp;gt;

wrote:&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; JAY JAGANNATH&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; -------------------&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; Dear partha,&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; In a mail to this group you

wrote&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; I think you have heard of Vipareet raj

yoga.&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; dusthana lords in another dusthana weak, dusthana

lords in<BR>

> kendras<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; strong give this kind of raja yoga that is

VRY.&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; But there must not be too many fellows besides

these<BR>

> dusthana<BR><BR>

> lords &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; as there might be transfer of

power.&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; 1. Two dusthana planet conjoing in a dusthana. The

precondition<BR>

> of<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> a &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; strong VYR of this nature is that the lords should be

weak.<BR>

> When<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> this &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; happen the significations of the dusthana suffer and

the<BR>

> native<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> gains &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; from it. This mostly happens with the down fall of

some of<BR>

> the<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; native's enemies. Moreover the relations indicated by

the<BR>

> planets<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; naisargika and chara karakatwa also suffer when the

native<BR>

> gains<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> from &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; the VRY. Here consider 3rd house also

as&amp;nbsp; dusthana<BR>

> besides<BR><BR>

> 6/8/12.&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; 2. Two dusthana lords strongly placed in a kendra (or

trikona)<BR>

> and<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> no &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; other planet conjoin them (in such case there will be

transfer<BR>

> of<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; power to the third planet, whereby the karakatwa of

the third<BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> planet &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; will gain). Here the planets involved should be

strongly<BR>

> placed<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; unlike the 1st principle. In this case if the

atmakaraka or<BR>

> the<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> lagna &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; has association with VR Yogakaraka, the native will

himself<BR>

> gained<BR><BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; otherwise the native will rise with rise of<BR>

> others.&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; 3. If the Karaka of duthanas, Saturn is placed in

a<BR>

> dusthana-weak<BR><BR>

> ( &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; or kendra - strong) as a yogakaraka (Taurus,

Libra<BR>

> Lagna).&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; In a hosroscope of a person with Taurus Lagna, all

the three<BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> dusthana lords are in the 9th house,viz. Jupiter, Venus and<BR>

> &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> Mars.Please let me know , how will you&amp;nbsp;

interprete<BR>

> it!&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; Regards&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> &amp;gt; Dilip Banerjee.&lt;BR&gt;<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> =====<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> Best wishes<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> Nandan<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

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AUM GURAVE NAMAH

Dear Nandan

 

If two dusthana lords are weakly placed in a dusthana, even then it can be very

strong VRY, if they are weakly placed (if one among them are debilitated and

other is weak, they are placed in enemies house or the dispositor is weakly

placed).

 

Mere placement of a dusthana lord in other dusthana is mere a veepareeta yoga

and has the power to give affluence too, however not like the strong VRYs, which

are rare.

 

 

Pranaam

Anjaneya

 

Quoting :

 

> <html><body>

>

>

> <tt>

> Partha<BR>

> <BR>

> Let me correct u as per what I have learnt from our Gurudev.<BR>

> <BR>

> I am ignoring the following VRYs as they are not being discussed

> here:<BR>

> a) weak St related, b) Arudh Lagna related. <BR>

> <BR>

> Dusthan lords in dusthan (other than own) could form weak VRYs<BR>

> (basically UttarKalamrit's definition). However, strong VRYs are

> formed<BR>

> by 2 CONJOINING dusthan lords in a) dusthan (relatively weaker<BR>

> version), & b) kendra OR KON. So Dr Banerjee's reference chart has

> a<BR>

> VERY STRONG VRY.<BR>

> <BR>

> Regards<BR>

> <BR>

> Nandan<BR>

> <BR>

> --- partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: <BR>

> <HR><BR>

> <html><body><BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <tt><BR>

> dear doctor<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> the principles state that it is two or more dusthana lords in

> kendra<BR>

> <BR><BR>

> or dusthana. viz for taurus lagna jupiter in 12th, mars in 8th and

> <BR><BR>

> both of them weak and un assoicated. or jupiter and mars in kendra

> <BR><BR>

> very strong, viz in 10th house.<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> in the example that you had quoted it is a kona!!!.<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> regards<BR><BR>

> partha<BR><BR>

> <BR>

> vedic astrology, &quot;Dr.D.Banerjee&quot;<BR>

> &lt;drdilip@s...&gt; wrote:<BR><BR>

> &gt; JAY JAGANNATH<BR><BR>

> &gt; -------------------<BR><BR>

> &gt; Dear partha,<BR><BR>

> &gt; <BR><BR>

> &gt; In a mail to this group you wrote<BR><BR>

> &gt; <BR><BR>

> &gt; <BR><BR>

> &gt; I think you have heard of Vipareet raj yoga.<BR><BR>

> &gt; <BR><BR>

> &gt; dusthana lords in another dusthana weak, dusthana lords in

> kendras<BR>

> <BR><BR>

> &gt; strong give this kind of raja yoga that is VRY.<BR><BR>

> &gt; <BR><BR>

> &gt; But there must not be too many fellows besides these

> dusthana<BR>

> lords <BR><BR>

> &gt; as there might be transfer of power.<BR><BR>

> &gt; <BR><BR>

> &gt; 1. Two dusthana planet conjoing in a dusthana. The precondition

> of<BR>

> <BR><BR>

> a <BR><BR>

> &gt; strong VYR of this nature is that the lords should be weak.

> When<BR>

> <BR><BR>

> this <BR><BR>

> &gt; happen the significations of the dusthana suffer and the

> native<BR>

> <BR><BR>

> gains <BR><BR>

> &gt; from it. This mostly happens with the down fall of some of

> the<BR>

> <BR><BR>

> &gt; native's enemies. Moreover the relations indicated by the

> planets<BR>

> <BR><BR>

> &gt; naisargika and chara karakatwa also suffer when the native

> gains<BR>

> <BR><BR>

> from <BR><BR>

> &gt; the VRY. Here consider 3rd house also as&nbsp; dusthana

> besides<BR>

> 6/8/12.<BR><BR>

> &gt; <BR><BR>

> &gt; 2. Two dusthana lords strongly placed in a kendra (or trikona)

> and<BR>

> <BR><BR>

> no <BR><BR>

> &gt; other planet conjoin them (in such case there will be transfer

> of<BR>

> <BR><BR>

> &gt; power to the third planet, whereby the karakatwa of the third

> <BR><BR>

> planet <BR><BR>

> &gt; will gain). Here the planets involved should be strongly

> placed<BR>

> <BR><BR>

> &gt; unlike the 1st principle. In this case if the atmakaraka or

> the<BR>

> <BR><BR>

> lagna <BR><BR>

> &gt; has association with VR Yogakaraka, the native will himself

> gained<BR>

> <BR><BR>

> &gt; otherwise the native will rise with rise of

> others.<BR><BR>

> &gt; <BR><BR>

> &gt; 3. If the Karaka of duthanas, Saturn is placed in a

> dusthana-weak<BR>

> ( <BR><BR>

> &gt; or kendra - strong) as a yogakaraka (Taurus, Libra

> Lagna).<BR><BR>

> &gt; <BR><BR>

> &gt; <BR><BR>

> &gt; <BR><BR>

> &gt; In a hosroscope of a person with Taurus Lagna, all the three

> <BR><BR>

> dusthana lords are in the 9th house,viz. Jupiter, Venus and

> <BR><BR>

> Mars.Please let me know , how will you&nbsp; interprete

> it!<BR><BR>

> &gt; <BR><BR>

> &gt; Regards<BR><BR>

> &gt; Dilip Banerjee.<BR><BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> =====<BR>

> <BR>

> Best wishes<BR>

> <BR>

> Nandan<BR>

> <BR>

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