VRY by CONJ Lds.Dus in the 1st place Viparit yoga, viparit raj yoga

February 28, 2002

dear nandan

ponder over these rules that i am giving, look at the third rule.

.. Two dusthana planet conjoing in a dusthana. The precondition of a

strong VYR of this nature is that the lords should be weak. When this

happen the significations of the dusthana suffer and the native gains

from it. This mostly happens with the down fall of some of the

native's enemies. Moreover the relations indicated by the planets

naisargika and chara karakatwa also suffer when the native gains from

the VRY. Here consider 3rd house also as dusthana besides 6/8/12.

2. Two dusthana lords strongly placed in a kendra (or trikona) and no

other planet conjoin them (in such case there will be transfer of

power to the third planet, whereby the karakatwa of the third planet

will gain). Here the planets involved should be strongly placed

unlike the 1st principle. In this case if the atmakaraka or the lagna

has association with VR Yogakaraka, the native will himself gained

otherwise the native will rise with rise of others.

3. If the Karaka of duthanas, Saturn is placed in a dusthana-weak (

or kendra - strong) as a yogakaraka (Taurus, Libra Lagna).

first of all dr.Banerjees query was related to taurus lagna. now for

taurus lagna jupiter is malefic, mars also but venus??

he asked whether jupiter, venus and saturn in 9th could they give VRY.

VRY is not an apple that we can pluck from a tree. VRY to fructify is

very rare, remember it is very difficult for it to manifest because

there are host of factors involved. venus cannot be dusthana lord

according to me for taurus. also the third rule states that for

taurus and libra natives saturn is yogakaraka and it needs to lose

the konadhipatya dosha to give some good effects.

If you see NTRama rao chart, saturn is in 12th house for libra lagna

and very weak. he ran saturn dasa from his 19th year to 38th year.

why did he become famous??

mars is 7th lord first and then he is 12th lord for taurus natives.

12th is also the moolatrikona house for mars.

why i said KONA??? TO DR.BANERJEE IS TO MAKE EVERYBODY think. please

come with conclusive answers.

regards

partha

vedic astrology, Nandan Chakraborty <nanadhan> wrote:

>

> Dear Anjaneya

>

> You are saying the same thing I am (ref varahamihira lesson on VRY).

> Didnt understand if u meant to say something different. Anyway,

> Partha's FURTHER question has made me think. But let me put it, in

my

> own way: in the strongest case of all, ie 2 conjoining lords of

> dusthans in a kendra or kon, if there is no other conjunction & it

is

> not aspected by AK/ lagna-lord, who is gaining at expense of whom?

>

> Nandan

>

> --- anjaneya11@s... wrote:

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>

> <tt>

> AUM GURAVE NAMAH

> Dear Nandan

>

> If two dusthana lords are weakly placed in a dusthana, even then it

can

> be very strong VRY, if they are weakly placed (if one among them are

> debilitated and other is weak, they are placed in enemies house or

the

> dispositor is weakly placed).

>

> Mere placement of a dusthana lord in other dusthana is mere a

> veepareeta yoga and has the power to give affluence too, however not

> like the strong VRYs, which are rare.

>

> Pranaam

> Anjaneya

>

> Quoting :

>

> > <html><body>

> >

> > <tt>

> > Partha

> >

> > Let me correct u as per what I have learnt from our

> Gurudev.

> >

> > I am ignoring the following VRYs as they are not being

> discussed

> > here:

> > a) weak St related, b) Arudh Lagna related.

> >

> > Dusthan lords in dusthan (other than own) could form weak

> VRYs

> > (basically UttarKalamrit's definition). However, strong VRYs

> are

> > formed

> > by 2 CONJOINING dusthan lords in a) dusthan (relatively

> weaker

> > version), & b) kendra OR KON. So Dr Banerjee's

reference

> chart has

> > a

> > VERY STRONG VRY.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Nandan

> >

> > --- partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote:

>

> > <HR>

> > <html><body>

> >

> > <tt>

> > dear doctor

> >

> > the principles state that it is two or more dusthana lords

in

> > kendra

> >

> > or dusthana. viz for taurus lagna jupiter in 12th, mars in 8th

> and

> >

> > both of them weak and un assoicated. or jupiter and mars in

> kendra

> >

> > very strong, viz in 10th house.

> >

> > in the example that you had quoted it is a

> kona!!!.

> >

> > regards

> > partha

> >

> > vedic astrology,

> &quot;Dr.D.Banerjee&quot;

> > &lt;drdilip@s...&gt;

> wrote:

> > &gt; JAY JAGANNATH

> > &gt; -------------------

> > &gt; Dear partha,

> > &gt;

> > &gt; In a mail to this group you

> wrote

> > &gt;

> > &gt; I think you have heard of Vipareet raj

> yoga.

> > &gt;

> > &gt; dusthana lords in another dusthana weak, dusthana

> lords in

> > kendras

> >

> > &gt; strong give this kind of raja yoga that is

> VRY.

> > &gt;

> > &gt; But there must not be too many fellows besides

> these

> > dusthana

> > lords

> > &gt; as there might be transfer of

> power.

> > &gt;

> > &gt; 1. Two dusthana planet conjoing in a dusthana. The

> precondition

> > of

> >

> > a

> > &gt; strong VYR of this nature is that the lords

should be

> weak.

> > When

> >

> > this

> > &gt; happen the significations of the dusthana suffer

and

> the

> > native

> >

> > gains

> > &gt; from it. This mostly happens with the down fall of

> some of

> > the

> >

> > &gt; native's enemies. Moreover the relations

indicated by

> the

> > planets

> >

> > &gt; naisargika and chara karakatwa also suffer when

the

> native

> > gains

> >

> > from

> > &gt; the VRY. Here consider 3rd house also

> as&nbsp; dusthana

> > besides

> > 6/8/12.

> > &gt;

> > &gt; 2. Two dusthana lords strongly placed in a kendra

(or

> trikona)

> > and

> >

> > no

> > &gt; other planet conjoin them (in such case there

will be

> transfer

> > of

> >

> > &gt; power to the third planet, whereby the karakatwa

of

> the third

> >

> > planet

> > &gt; will gain). Here the planets involved should be

> strongly

> > placed

> >

> > &gt; unlike the 1st principle. In this case if the

> atmakaraka or

> > the

> >

> > lagna

> > &gt; has association with VR Yogakaraka, the native

will

> himself

> > gained

> >

> > &gt; otherwise the native will rise with rise of

> > others.

> > &gt;

> > &gt; 3. If the Karaka of duthanas, Saturn is placed in

> a

> > dusthana-weak

> > (

> > &gt; or kendra - strong) as a yogakaraka (Taurus,

> Libra

> > Lagna).

> > &gt;

> > &gt; In a hosroscope of a person with Taurus Lagna, all

> the three

> >

> > dusthana lords are in the 9th house,viz. Jupiter, Venus and

> >

> > Mars.Please let me know , how will you&nbsp;

> interprete

> > it!

> > &gt;

> > &gt; Regards

> > &gt; Dilip Banerjee.

> >

> > =====

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Nandan

> >

> >

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March 1, 2002

Dear Partha & others in the VRY thread,

I have a chart where the AK is vargottam and in 6th from AK, lords of 8th &

12 combine. however with respect to asc this happens to be in a kendra but

now as lords of 1st & 10.

Does this qualify as VRY? ( Look Ak is vargottam)

or

Simhaasan yoga as lord of 1/10 combination in a Kendra?

Thans

Brahma.

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