Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-dear nimmi

March 1, 2002

dear nimmi and list

Kedar yoga doesnot necessarily mean that a person would be from

farming community.

And a small correction here, when we are considering nabhasa yogas we

should not consider rahu and ketu. so here in your example he

doesnot have kedara yoga but Sula yoga which is not favourable yoga.

One born in this yoga suffers a lot.

kedara yoga means that person will earn by agriculture type of

activities. In todays world we should do practical analysis of

charts. a person who is born in kedara yoga perserveres a lot and

works hard for results. Now i have seen people who have this yoga and

are working in BANKS. Thus slow and steady types these fellows are.

regards

partha

vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> Nandan,

>

> I have not found that Saturn in Sag for Aries lagna actually

creates this

> favourable situation. The person I know with this (Sun, Venus,

Mercury,

> Rahu, Jup, Lagna in Aries, Mars in Gemini, Ketu in Libra, Saturn in

Sag) had

> a pretty ordinary life that he managed to ruin completely through

his own

> actions. Was abandoned by most of his family and finally managed to

gain

> back an ordinary life through his son (3rd child, 9th house,

saturn?). The

> main features of this chart seem to be the kedara yoga (was born to

a

> farming family), parivartana between L1 and L3 (was a postmaster),

mutual

> aspect between mars and saturn (a very means justifies the ends

type), and

> the heavy occupation of lagna (parivraja yog which deprives him of

wife,

> family?).

>

> If saturn in sag would be good, then the mutual aspect with L1 mars

should

> have augmented it and created something observable. It did not.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Nimmi

>

> -

> "Nandan Chakraborty" <nanadhan>

> <vedic astrology>

> Friday, March 01, 2002 6:12 AM

> [vedic astrology] Badhak in 9= Sadhak?!?

>

> >

> > Dear Gurus & friends

> >

> > I have been reading a very enlightening book by R Lakshmanan, who

is/

> > used to be a very reputed astrologer 2-3 decades back. 1/4 way

thru.

> > Got stuck at his comment that "badhak in 9= sadhak"= RY= rise to

the

> > top. He was talking about St L10/11 in Sg for Ar Lg. But in the

> > reference, I understood that he was talking in general for badhak

in 9,

> > & taking this case only as an example.

> >

> > Most of the rest of the book is VERY good, replete with example-

charts

> > on each page, to cover EACH & EVERY concept in the text (unlike

many

> > modern authors who only collect aphorisms, so that most of their

books

> > are a monotone of serial nos, of X in Y+ Z assoc by T= wicked

mother).

> > So I cant ignore this statement, just b'cos I cd not understand

it.

> >

> > What I understand is that badhakesh should ideally be weak (in

dusthan,

> > esp in 12= excellent, debilitated, combust, etc). Any clues?

> >

> > Gurudev said that if I meditate every morning, & start looking at

> > charts, all my answers will start coming to me. Well, much noise

is

> > being made in the mornings, as daily mantras are being full-

throatedly

> > recited(thank u Karen Sloker, for the clarification & VRA ref).

Tho, as

> > for meditation, Gurus, please give me a little more time - its not

> > really happening properly (hyperactive mind). But somehow, all

these

> > seemingly easy answers (like gainer/ loser in VRY, & Zoran's

famous

> > doubel negatives, & now this one) continue to elude me.

> >

> > St conjoins my Jp, slowing wisdom's effort in reaching me. But

> > slowneasy wins the race, says St, ie if the audience is still

awake/

> > alive by the time u reach the finishing line.

> >

> > =====

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Nandan

> >

____________________

__

> > Looking for a job? Visit India Careers

> > Visit http://in.careers.

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

> >

March 1, 2002

Partha,

Actually I forgot, moon is in cancer in the 4th. I dont think I was counting

the ketu in the 7th. So does kedara still apply? He may have been slow and

steady with his work - he was reliable there.

But the only way I can describe him is as amoral and self indulgent. Here, I

think the association of saturn, mars and rahu on the 9th may be the key.

Rahu is also degree conjunct with the ascendant (Ascendant is very close to

the edge. However, he had very beautiful curly hair when he was young and

lost it completely by around 30, so a high pitta lagna with venus in it

sounds good).

However, I dont know why Jupiter and venus in the ascendant, the strong

gajakesari yoga and the aspect of Jupiter on the 9th didn't have an equally

beneficial effect. Moon is in aslesha nakshatra by the way. Chart is

attached.

Best regards,

Nimmi

-

"partvinu5" <partvinu5

Friday, March 01, 2002 8:10 AM

[vedic astrology] Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-dear nimmi

>

> dear nimmi and list

>

> Kedar yoga doesnot necessarily mean that a person would be from

> farming community.

>

> And a small correction here, when we are considering nabhasa yogas we

> should not consider rahu and ketu. so here in your example he

> doesnot have kedara yoga but Sula yoga which is not favourable yoga.

> One born in this yoga suffers a lot.

>

> kedara yoga means that person will earn by agriculture type of

> activities. In todays world we should do practical analysis of

> charts. a person who is born in kedara yoga perserveres a lot and

> works hard for results. Now i have seen people who have this yoga and

> are working in BANKS. Thus slow and steady types these fellows are.

> regards

> partha

vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> > Nandan,

> >

> > I have not found that Saturn in Sag for Aries lagna actually

> creates this

> > favourable situation. The person I know with this (Sun, Venus,

> Mercury,

> > Rahu, Jup, Lagna in Aries, Mars in Gemini, Ketu in Libra, Saturn in

> Sag) had

> > a pretty ordinary life that he managed to ruin completely through

> his own

> > actions. Was abandoned by most of his family and finally managed to

> gain

> > back an ordinary life through his son (3rd child, 9th house,

> saturn?). The

> > main features of this chart seem to be the kedara yoga (was born to

> a

> > farming family), parivartana between L1 and L3 (was a postmaster),

> mutual

> > aspect between mars and saturn (a very means justifies the ends

> type), and

> > the heavy occupation of lagna (parivraja yog which deprives him of

> wife,

> > family?).

> >

> > If saturn in sag would be good, then the mutual aspect with L1 mars

> should

> > have augmented it and created something observable. It did not.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Nimmi

> >

> > -

> > "Nandan Chakraborty" <nanadhan>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Friday, March 01, 2002 6:12 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Badhak in 9= Sadhak?!?

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Gurus & friends

> > >

> > > I have been reading a very enlightening book by R Lakshmanan, who

> is/

> > > used to be a very reputed astrologer 2-3 decades back. 1/4 way

> thru.

> > > Got stuck at his comment that "badhak in 9= sadhak"= RY= rise to

> the

> > > top. He was talking about St L10/11 in Sg for Ar Lg. But in the

> > > reference, I understood that he was talking in general for badhak

> in 9,

> > > & taking this case only as an example.

> > >

> > > Most of the rest of the book is VERY good, replete with example-

> charts

> > > on each page, to cover EACH & EVERY concept in the text (unlike

> many

> > > modern authors who only collect aphorisms, so that most of their

> books

> > > are a monotone of serial nos, of X in Y+ Z assoc by T= wicked

> mother).

> > > So I cant ignore this statement, just b'cos I cd not understand

> it.

> > >

> > > What I understand is that badhakesh should ideally be weak (in

> dusthan,

> > > esp in 12= excellent, debilitated, combust, etc). Any clues?

> > >

> > > Gurudev said that if I meditate every morning, & start looking at

> > > charts, all my answers will start coming to me. Well, much noise

> is

> > > being made in the mornings, as daily mantras are being full-

> throatedly

> > > recited(thank u Karen Sloker, for the clarification & VRA ref).

> Tho, as

> > > for meditation, Gurus, please give me a little more time - its not

> > > really happening properly (hyperactive mind). But somehow, all

> these

> > > seemingly easy answers (like gainer/ loser in VRY, & Zoran's

> famous

> > > doubel negatives, & now this one) continue to elude me.

> > >

> > > St conjoins my Jp, slowing wisdom's effort in reaching me. But

> > > slowneasy wins the race, says St, ie if the audience is still

> awake/

> > > alive by the time u reach the finishing line.

> > >

> > > =====

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> > > Nandan

> > >

> ____________________

> __

> > > Looking for a job? Visit India Careers

> > > Visit http://in.careers.

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

> > > Your use of is subject to

>

> > >

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

Attachment: (application/octet-stream) chartx.jhd [not stored]

March 1, 2002

dear Nimmi

even i forgot to ask the position of moon.

interesting chart, if i use raman ayanamsa then Lagna is taurus with

rahu in lagna. 4 planets in 12th house.

Saturn in 8th house, a yogakaraka saturn is in 8th house!!!,.

Rahu is in lagna describes his life to the tee. For describing his

profession look at the dasamsa chart. 2nd 6th and 10th are the key

houses here. 2nd has mars , 6th has mercury(communications) and sun,

(govt) and 10th lord is in cancer with ketu.

Look at navamsa chart moon is in A10 in aquarius and saturn and venus

are in 6th house of service in GEMINI. thus he was a person in

communications-postmaster and also low job.

9th lord is saturn and it describes his father.

thus there are two possibilities, either change the time or use Raman

ayanamsa. this would explain his miseries.

regards

partha

vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> Partha,

>

> Actually I forgot, moon is in cancer in the 4th. I dont think I was

counting

> the ketu in the 7th. So does kedara still apply? He may have been

slow and

> steady with his work - he was reliable there.

>

> But the only way I can describe him is as amoral and self

indulgent. Here, I

> think the association of saturn, mars and rahu on the 9th may be

the key.

> Rahu is also degree conjunct with the ascendant (Ascendant is very

close to

> the edge. However, he had very beautiful curly hair when he was

young and

> lost it completely by around 30, so a high pitta lagna with venus

in it

> sounds good).

>

> However, I dont know why Jupiter and venus in the ascendant, the

strong

> gajakesari yoga and the aspect of Jupiter on the 9th didn't have an

equally

> beneficial effect. Moon is in aslesha nakshatra by the way. Chart is

> attached.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Nimmi

>

> -

> "partvinu5" <partvinu5>

> <vedic astrology>

> Friday, March 01, 2002 8:10 AM

> [vedic astrology] Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-dear

nimmi

>

> >

> > dear nimmi and list

> >

> > Kedar yoga doesnot necessarily mean that a person would be from

> > farming community.

> >

> > And a small correction here, when we are considering nabhasa

yogas we

> > should not consider rahu and ketu. so here in your example he

> > doesnot have kedara yoga but Sula yoga which is not favourable

yoga.

> > One born in this yoga suffers a lot.

> >

> > kedara yoga means that person will earn by agriculture type of

> > activities. In todays world we should do practical analysis of

> > charts. a person who is born in kedara yoga perserveres a lot and

> > works hard for results. Now i have seen people who have this yoga

and

> > are working in BANKS. Thus slow and steady types these fellows

are.

> > regards

> > partha

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...>

wrote:

> > > Nandan,

> > >

> > > I have not found that Saturn in Sag for Aries lagna actually

> > creates this

> > > favourable situation. The person I know with this (Sun, Venus,

> > Mercury,

> > > Rahu, Jup, Lagna in Aries, Mars in Gemini, Ketu in Libra,

Saturn in

> > Sag) had

> > > a pretty ordinary life that he managed to ruin completely

through

> > his own

> > > actions. Was abandoned by most of his family and finally

managed to

> > gain

> > > back an ordinary life through his son (3rd child, 9th house,

> > saturn?). The

> > > main features of this chart seem to be the kedara yoga (was

born to

> > a

> > > farming family), parivartana between L1 and L3 (was a

postmaster),

> > mutual

> > > aspect between mars and saturn (a very means justifies the ends

> > type), and

> > > the heavy occupation of lagna (parivraja yog which deprives him

of

> > wife,

> > > family?).

> > >

> > > If saturn in sag would be good, then the mutual aspect with L1

mars

> > should

> > > have augmented it and created something observable. It did not.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Nimmi

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Nandan Chakraborty" <nanadhan>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Friday, March 01, 2002 6:12 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Badhak in 9= Sadhak?!?

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gurus & friends

> > > >

> > > > I have been reading a very enlightening book by R Lakshmanan,

who

> > is/

> > > > used to be a very reputed astrologer 2-3 decades back. 1/4 way

> > thru.

> > > > Got stuck at his comment that "badhak in 9= sadhak"= RY= rise

to

> > the

> > > > top. He was talking about St L10/11 in Sg for Ar Lg. But in

the

> > > > reference, I understood that he was talking in general for

badhak

> > in 9,

> > > > & taking this case only as an example.

> > > >

> > > > Most of the rest of the book is VERY good, replete with

example-

> > charts

> > > > on each page, to cover EACH & EVERY concept in the text

(unlike

> > many

> > > > modern authors who only collect aphorisms, so that most of

their

> > books

> > > > are a monotone of serial nos, of X in Y+ Z assoc by T= wicked

> > mother).

> > > > So I cant ignore this statement, just b'cos I cd not

understand

> > it.

> > > >

> > > > What I understand is that badhakesh should ideally be weak (in

> > dusthan,

> > > > esp in 12= excellent, debilitated, combust, etc). Any clues?

> > > >

> > > > Gurudev said that if I meditate every morning, & start

looking at

> > > > charts, all my answers will start coming to me. Well, much

noise

> > is

> > > > being made in the mornings, as daily mantras are being full-

> > throatedly

> > > > recited(thank u Karen Sloker, for the clarification & VRA

ref).

> > Tho, as

> > > > for meditation, Gurus, please give me a little more time -

its not

> > > > really happening properly (hyperactive mind). But somehow, all

> > these

> > > > seemingly easy answers (like gainer/ loser in VRY, & Zoran's

> > famous

> > > > doubel negatives, & now this one) continue to elude me.

> > > >

> > > > St conjoins my Jp, slowing wisdom's effort in reaching me. But

> > > > slowneasy wins the race, says St, ie if the audience is still

> > awake/

> > > > alive by the time u reach the finishing line.

> > > >

> > > > =====

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > > >

> > > > Nandan

> > > >

> >

____________________

> > __

> > > > Looking for a job? Visit India Careers

> > > > Visit http://in.careers.

> > > >

> > > > Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

> > > >

> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...

> > > >

> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > >

> > > > Your use of is subject to

> >

> > > >

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

> >

March 1, 2002

dear Nimmi

if i use lahiri ayanamsa, still i could explain his profession and

life????

kedara yoga is there which i did not confirm in my previous post.

A3 is in labha rasi so giving him gains through communications. Now

if i see the dasamsa chart, 10th lord is in 6th house in gemini and

it contains A3. thus the person would work for communications, the

mutual opposition of mars and saturn is the key, must have never

listened to his father and parents. Gaja kesari yoga means that we

are discussin his chart today(laughs). seriously with so many

afflictions do you think gaja kesari yoga will frucitfy.

The most important thing is rahu conjunt lagna longitude. This may be

really problematic for his life.

I have seen that taurus guys mostly have curly hair though

generalising is not the best of pracices.

Saturn is in 9th suggesting his father(laughs)

regards

partha

vedic astrology, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote:

> dear Nimmi

>

> even i forgot to ask the position of moon.

>

> interesting chart, if i use raman ayanamsa then Lagna is taurus

with

> rahu in lagna. 4 planets in 12th house.

>

> Saturn in 8th house, a yogakaraka saturn is in 8th house!!!,.

>

> Rahu is in lagna describes his life to the tee. For describing his

> profession look at the dasamsa chart. 2nd 6th and 10th are the key

> houses here. 2nd has mars , 6th has mercury(communications) and

sun,

> (govt) and 10th lord is in cancer with ketu.

>

> Look at navamsa chart moon is in A10 in aquarius and saturn and

venus

> are in 6th house of service in GEMINI. thus he was a person in

> communications-postmaster and also low job.

>

> 9th lord is saturn and it describes his father.

>

> thus there are two possibilities, either change the time or use

Raman

> ayanamsa. this would explain his miseries.

> regards

> partha

>

> vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...>

wrote:

> > Partha,

> >

> > Actually I forgot, moon is in cancer in the 4th. I dont think I

was

> counting

> > the ketu in the 7th. So does kedara still apply? He may have been

> slow and

> > steady with his work - he was reliable there.

> >

> > But the only way I can describe him is as amoral and self

> indulgent. Here, I

> > think the association of saturn, mars and rahu on the 9th may be

> the key.

> > Rahu is also degree conjunct with the ascendant (Ascendant is

very

> close to

> > the edge. However, he had very beautiful curly hair when he was

> young and

> > lost it completely by around 30, so a high pitta lagna with venus

> in it

> > sounds good).

> >

> > However, I dont know why Jupiter and venus in the ascendant, the

> strong

> > gajakesari yoga and the aspect of Jupiter on the 9th didn't have

an

> equally

> > beneficial effect. Moon is in aslesha nakshatra by the way. Chart

is

> > attached.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Nimmi

> >

> > -

> > "partvinu5" <partvinu5>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Friday, March 01, 2002 8:10 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-dear

> nimmi

> >

> > >

> > > dear nimmi and list

> > >

> > > Kedar yoga doesnot necessarily mean that a person would be from

> > > farming community.

> > >

> > > And a small correction here, when we are considering nabhasa

> yogas we

> > > should not consider rahu and ketu. so here in your example he

> > > doesnot have kedara yoga but Sula yoga which is not favourable

> yoga.

> > > One born in this yoga suffers a lot.

> > >

> > > kedara yoga means that person will earn by agriculture type of

> > > activities. In todays world we should do practical analysis of

> > > charts. a person who is born in kedara yoga perserveres a lot

and

> > > works hard for results. Now i have seen people who have this

yoga

> and

> > > are working in BANKS. Thus slow and steady types these fellows

> are.

> > > regards

> > > partha

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...>

> wrote:

> > > > Nandan,

> > > >

> > > > I have not found that Saturn in Sag for Aries lagna actually

> > > creates this

> > > > favourable situation. The person I know with this (Sun, Venus,

> > > Mercury,

> > > > Rahu, Jup, Lagna in Aries, Mars in Gemini, Ketu in Libra,

> Saturn in

> > > Sag) had

> > > > a pretty ordinary life that he managed to ruin completely

> through

> > > his own

> > > > actions. Was abandoned by most of his family and finally

> managed to

> > > gain

> > > > back an ordinary life through his son (3rd child, 9th house,

> > > saturn?). The

> > > > main features of this chart seem to be the kedara yoga (was

> born to

> > > a

> > > > farming family), parivartana between L1 and L3 (was a

> postmaster),

> > > mutual

> > > > aspect between mars and saturn (a very means justifies the

ends

> > > type), and

> > > > the heavy occupation of lagna (parivraja yog which deprives

him

> of

> > > wife,

> > > > family?).

> > > >

> > > > If saturn in sag would be good, then the mutual aspect with

L1

> mars

> > > should

> > > > have augmented it and created something observable. It did

not.

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > >

> > > > Nimmi

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "Nandan Chakraborty" <nanadhan>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 6:12 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Badhak in 9= Sadhak?!?

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gurus & friends

> > > > >

> > > > > I have been reading a very enlightening book by R

Lakshmanan,

> who

> > > is/

> > > > > used to be a very reputed astrologer 2-3 decades back. 1/4

way

> > > thru.

> > > > > Got stuck at his comment that "badhak in 9= sadhak"= RY=

rise

> to

> > > the

> > > > > top. He was talking about St L10/11 in Sg for Ar Lg. But in

> the

> > > > > reference, I understood that he was talking in general for

> badhak

> > > in 9,

> > > > > & taking this case only as an example.

> > > > >

> > > > > Most of the rest of the book is VERY good, replete with

> example-

> > > charts

> > > > > on each page, to cover EACH & EVERY concept in the text

> (unlike

> > > many

> > > > > modern authors who only collect aphorisms, so that most of

> their

> > > books

> > > > > are a monotone of serial nos, of X in Y+ Z assoc by T=

wicked

> > > mother).

> > > > > So I cant ignore this statement, just b'cos I cd not

> understand

> > > it.

> > > > >

> > > > > What I understand is that badhakesh should ideally be weak

(in

> > > dusthan,

> > > > > esp in 12= excellent, debilitated, combust, etc). Any clues?

> > > > >

> > > > > Gurudev said that if I meditate every morning, & start

> looking at

> > > > > charts, all my answers will start coming to me. Well, much

> noise

> > > is

> > > > > being made in the mornings, as daily mantras are being full-

> > > throatedly

> > > > > recited(thank u Karen Sloker, for the clarification & VRA

> ref).

> > > Tho, as

> > > > > for meditation, Gurus, please give me a little more time -

> its not

> > > > > really happening properly (hyperactive mind). But somehow,

all

> > > these

> > > > > seemingly easy answers (like gainer/ loser in VRY, & Zoran's

> > > famous

> > > > > doubel negatives, & now this one) continue to elude me.

> > > > >

> > > > > St conjoins my Jp, slowing wisdom's effort in reaching me.

But

> > > > > slowneasy wins the race, says St, ie if the audience is

still

> > > awake/

> > > > > alive by the time u reach the finishing line.

> > > > >

> > > > > =====

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes

> > > > >

> > > > > Nandan

> > > > >

> > >

>

____________________

> > > __

> > > > > Looking for a job? Visit India Careers

> > > > > Visit http://in.careers.

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Dear Partha,

Doesn't Saturn as YK for Venus ascendants in dushtana cause a VRY?

This person also moved overseas around 1994 and is now settled there near

his son. This would be during Rahu dasa starting from the moon which would

fit as Rahu would then aspect the 4th house from its position in the 12th

and is associated with 4th lord.

Ascendant ruler is in the 12th, again giving overseas residence. 5th ruler

in 12th also would show children resident overseas and also joining children

overseas.

If we use Lagna as starting point for vimshottri (venus is associated with

more planets) then this happened during saturn dasa, perhaps giving the VRY?

However, then the 12th house effects that we have seen - residence

overseas - dont seem to apply that well.

Regards,

Nimmi

-

"partvinu5" <partvinu5

Friday, March 01, 2002 9:16 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-dear nimmi

>

> dear Nimmi

>

> even i forgot to ask the position of moon.

>

> interesting chart, if i use raman ayanamsa then Lagna is taurus with

> rahu in lagna. 4 planets in 12th house.

>

> Saturn in 8th house, a yogakaraka saturn is in 8th house!!!,.

>

> Rahu is in lagna describes his life to the tee. For describing his

> profession look at the dasamsa chart. 2nd 6th and 10th are the key

> houses here. 2nd has mars , 6th has mercury(communications) and sun,

> (govt) and 10th lord is in cancer with ketu.

>

> Look at navamsa chart moon is in A10 in aquarius and saturn and venus

> are in 6th house of service in GEMINI. thus he was a person in

> communications-postmaster and also low job.

>

> 9th lord is saturn and it describes his father.

>

> thus there are two possibilities, either change the time or use Raman

> ayanamsa. this would explain his miseries.

> regards

> partha

>

> vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> > Partha,

> >

> > Actually I forgot, moon is in cancer in the 4th. I dont think I was

> counting

> > the ketu in the 7th. So does kedara still apply? He may have been

> slow and

> > steady with his work - he was reliable there.

> >

> > But the only way I can describe him is as amoral and self

> indulgent. Here, I

> > think the association of saturn, mars and rahu on the 9th may be

> the key.

> > Rahu is also degree conjunct with the ascendant (Ascendant is very

> close to

> > the edge. However, he had very beautiful curly hair when he was

> young and

> > lost it completely by around 30, so a high pitta lagna with venus

> in it

> > sounds good).

> >

> > However, I dont know why Jupiter and venus in the ascendant, the

> strong

> > gajakesari yoga and the aspect of Jupiter on the 9th didn't have an

> equally

> > beneficial effect. Moon is in aslesha nakshatra by the way. Chart is

> > attached.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Nimmi

> >

> > -

> > "partvinu5" <partvinu5>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Friday, March 01, 2002 8:10 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-dear

> nimmi

> >

> > >

> > > dear nimmi and list

> > >

> > > Kedar yoga doesnot necessarily mean that a person would be from

> > > farming community.

> > >

> > > And a small correction here, when we are considering nabhasa

> yogas we

> > > should not consider rahu and ketu. so here in your example he

> > > doesnot have kedara yoga but Sula yoga which is not favourable

> yoga.

> > > One born in this yoga suffers a lot.

> > >

> > > kedara yoga means that person will earn by agriculture type of

> > > activities. In todays world we should do practical analysis of

> > > charts. a person who is born in kedara yoga perserveres a lot and

> > > works hard for results. Now i have seen people who have this yoga

> and

> > > are working in BANKS. Thus slow and steady types these fellows

> are.

> > > regards

> > > partha

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...>

> wrote:

> > > > Nandan,

> > > >

> > > > I have not found that Saturn in Sag for Aries lagna actually

> > > creates this

> > > > favourable situation. The person I know with this (Sun, Venus,

> > > Mercury,

> > > > Rahu, Jup, Lagna in Aries, Mars in Gemini, Ketu in Libra,

> Saturn in

> > > Sag) had

> > > > a pretty ordinary life that he managed to ruin completely

> through

> > > his own

> > > > actions. Was abandoned by most of his family and finally

> managed to

> > > gain

> > > > back an ordinary life through his son (3rd child, 9th house,

> > > saturn?). The

> > > > main features of this chart seem to be the kedara yoga (was

> born to

> > > a

> > > > farming family), parivartana between L1 and L3 (was a

> postmaster),

> > > mutual

> > > > aspect between mars and saturn (a very means justifies the ends

> > > type), and

> > > > the heavy occupation of lagna (parivraja yog which deprives him

> of

> > > wife,

> > > > family?).

> > > >

> > > > If saturn in sag would be good, then the mutual aspect with L1

> mars

> > > should

> > > > have augmented it and created something observable. It did not.

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > >

> > > > Nimmi

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "Nandan Chakraborty" <nanadhan>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 6:12 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Badhak in 9= Sadhak?!?

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gurus & friends

> > > > >

> > > > > I have been reading a very enlightening book by R Lakshmanan,

> who

> > > is/

> > > > > used to be a very reputed astrologer 2-3 decades back. 1/4 way

> > > thru.

> > > > > Got stuck at his comment that "badhak in 9= sadhak"= RY= rise

> to

> > > the

> > > > > top. He was talking about St L10/11 in Sg for Ar Lg. But in

> the

> > > > > reference, I understood that he was talking in general for

> badhak

> > > in 9,

> > > > > & taking this case only as an example.

> > > > >

> > > > > Most of the rest of the book is VERY good, replete with

> example-

> > > charts

> > > > > on each page, to cover EACH & EVERY concept in the text

> (unlike

> > > many

> > > > > modern authors who only collect aphorisms, so that most of

> their

> > > books

> > > > > are a monotone of serial nos, of X in Y+ Z assoc by T= wicked

> > > mother).

> > > > > So I cant ignore this statement, just b'cos I cd not

> understand

> > > it.

> > > > >

> > > > > What I understand is that badhakesh should ideally be weak (in

> > > dusthan,

> > > > > esp in 12= excellent, debilitated, combust, etc). Any clues?

> > > > >

> > > > > Gurudev said that if I meditate every morning, & start

> looking at

> > > > > charts, all my answers will start coming to me. Well, much

> noise

> > > is

> > > > > being made in the mornings, as daily mantras are being full-

> > > throatedly

> > > > > recited(thank u Karen Sloker, for the clarification & VRA

> ref).

> > > Tho, as

> > > > > for meditation, Gurus, please give me a little more time -

> its not

> > > > > really happening properly (hyperactive mind). But somehow, all

> > > these

> > > > > seemingly easy answers (like gainer/ loser in VRY, & Zoran's

> > > famous

> > > > > doubel negatives, & now this one) continue to elude me.

> > > > >

> > > > > St conjoins my Jp, slowing wisdom's effort in reaching me. But

> > > > > slowneasy wins the race, says St, ie if the audience is still

> > > awake/

> > > > > alive by the time u reach the finishing line.

> > > > >

> > > > > =====

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes

> > > > >

> > > > > Nandan

> > > > >

> > >

> ____________________

> > > __

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> > > > >

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> > >

> > > > >

> > >

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>

> > >

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

March 1, 2002

dear Nimmi

even though the person has moved to foreign residence very late, we

can still consider his movement from his place due to the lagna being

taurus.

lagna lord in 3rd vs lagna lord in 12th??

so after close deliberations of myself-(mercury seeing both the sides

of the coin and getting thoroughly confused(hahahah), finally i

think , hey with bated breath,) the final countdown-)))))taurus is

the LAGNA.

regards

partha

vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> Dear Partha,

>

> Doesn't Saturn as YK for Venus ascendants in dushtana cause a VRY?

>

> This person also moved overseas around 1994 and is now settled

there near

> his son. This would be during Rahu dasa starting from the moon

which would

> fit as Rahu would then aspect the 4th house from its position in

the 12th

> and is associated with 4th lord.

>

> Ascendant ruler is in the 12th, again giving overseas residence.

5th ruler

> in 12th also would show children resident overseas and also joining

children

> overseas.

>

> If we use Lagna as starting point for vimshottri (venus is

associated with

> more planets) then this happened during saturn dasa, perhaps giving

the VRY?

> However, then the 12th house effects that we have seen - residence

> overseas - dont seem to apply that well.

>

> Regards,

>

> Nimmi

>

> -

> "partvinu5" <partvinu5>

> <vedic astrology>

> Friday, March 01, 2002 9:16 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-

dear nimmi

>

> >

> > dear Nimmi

> >

> > even i forgot to ask the position of moon.

> >

> > interesting chart, if i use raman ayanamsa then Lagna is taurus

with

> > rahu in lagna. 4 planets in 12th house.

> >

> > Saturn in 8th house, a yogakaraka saturn is in 8th house!!!,.

> >

> > Rahu is in lagna describes his life to the tee. For describing his

> > profession look at the dasamsa chart. 2nd 6th and 10th are the key

> > houses here. 2nd has mars , 6th has mercury(communications) and

sun,

> > (govt) and 10th lord is in cancer with ketu.

> >

> > Look at navamsa chart moon is in A10 in aquarius and saturn and

venus

> > are in 6th house of service in GEMINI. thus he was a person in

> > communications-postmaster and also low job.

> >

> > 9th lord is saturn and it describes his father.

> >

> > thus there are two possibilities, either change the time or use

Raman

> > ayanamsa. this would explain his miseries.

> > regards

> > partha

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...>

wrote:

> > > Partha,

> > >

> > > Actually I forgot, moon is in cancer in the 4th. I dont think I

was

> > counting

> > > the ketu in the 7th. So does kedara still apply? He may have

been

> > slow and

> > > steady with his work - he was reliable there.

> > >

> > > But the only way I can describe him is as amoral and self

> > indulgent. Here, I

> > > think the association of saturn, mars and rahu on the 9th may be

> > the key.

> > > Rahu is also degree conjunct with the ascendant (Ascendant is

very

> > close to

> > > the edge. However, he had very beautiful curly hair when he was

> > young and

> > > lost it completely by around 30, so a high pitta lagna with

venus

> > in it

> > > sounds good).

> > >

> > > However, I dont know why Jupiter and venus in the ascendant, the

> > strong

> > > gajakesari yoga and the aspect of Jupiter on the 9th didn't

have an

> > equally

> > > beneficial effect. Moon is in aslesha nakshatra by the way.

Chart is

> > > attached.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Nimmi

> > >

> > > -

> > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Friday, March 01, 2002 8:10 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-

dear

> > nimmi

> > >

> > > >

> > > > dear nimmi and list

> > > >

> > > > Kedar yoga doesnot necessarily mean that a person would be

from

> > > > farming community.

> > > >

> > > > And a small correction here, when we are considering nabhasa

> > yogas we

> > > > should not consider rahu and ketu. so here in your example he

> > > > doesnot have kedara yoga but Sula yoga which is not favourable

> > yoga.

> > > > One born in this yoga suffers a lot.

> > > >

> > > > kedara yoga means that person will earn by agriculture type of

> > > > activities. In todays world we should do practical analysis of

> > > > charts. a person who is born in kedara yoga perserveres a lot

and

> > > > works hard for results. Now i have seen people who have this

yoga

> > and

> > > > are working in BANKS. Thus slow and steady types these fellows

> > are.

> > > > regards

> > > > partha

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan"

<106350.3660@c...>

> > wrote:

> > > > > Nandan,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have not found that Saturn in Sag for Aries lagna actually

> > > > creates this

> > > > > favourable situation. The person I know with this (Sun,

Venus,

> > > > Mercury,

> > > > > Rahu, Jup, Lagna in Aries, Mars in Gemini, Ketu in Libra,

> > Saturn in

> > > > Sag) had

> > > > > a pretty ordinary life that he managed to ruin completely

> > through

> > > > his own

> > > > > actions. Was abandoned by most of his family and finally

> > managed to

> > > > gain

> > > > > back an ordinary life through his son (3rd child, 9th house,

> > > > saturn?). The

> > > > > main features of this chart seem to be the kedara yoga (was

> > born to

> > > > a

> > > > > farming family), parivartana between L1 and L3 (was a

> > postmaster),

> > > > mutual

> > > > > aspect between mars and saturn (a very means justifies the

ends

> > > > type), and

> > > > > the heavy occupation of lagna (parivraja yog which deprives

him

> > of

> > > > wife,

> > > > > family?).

> > > > >

> > > > > If saturn in sag would be good, then the mutual aspect with

L1

> > mars

> > > > should

> > > > > have augmented it and created something observable. It did

not.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Nimmi

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > "Nandan Chakraborty" <nanadhan>

> > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 6:12 AM

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Badhak in 9= Sadhak?!?

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Gurus & friends

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have been reading a very enlightening book by R

Lakshmanan,

> > who

> > > > is/

> > > > > > used to be a very reputed astrologer 2-3 decades back.

1/4 way

> > > > thru.

> > > > > > Got stuck at his comment that "badhak in 9= sadhak"= RY=

rise

> > to

> > > > the

> > > > > > top. He was talking about St L10/11 in Sg for Ar Lg. But

in

> > the

> > > > > > reference, I understood that he was talking in general for

> > badhak

> > > > in 9,

> > > > > > & taking this case only as an example.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Most of the rest of the book is VERY good, replete with

> > example-

> > > > charts

> > > > > > on each page, to cover EACH & EVERY concept in the text

> > (unlike

> > > > many

> > > > > > modern authors who only collect aphorisms, so that most of

> > their

> > > > books

> > > > > > are a monotone of serial nos, of X in Y+ Z assoc by T=

wicked

> > > > mother).

> > > > > > So I cant ignore this statement, just b'cos I cd not

> > understand

> > > > it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What I understand is that badhakesh should ideally be

weak (in

> > > > dusthan,

> > > > > > esp in 12= excellent, debilitated, combust, etc). Any

clues?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gurudev said that if I meditate every morning, & start

> > looking at

> > > > > > charts, all my answers will start coming to me. Well, much

> > noise

> > > > is

> > > > > > being made in the mornings, as daily mantras are being

full-

> > > > throatedly

> > > > > > recited(thank u Karen Sloker, for the clarification & VRA

> > ref).

> > > > Tho, as

> > > > > > for meditation, Gurus, please give me a little more time -

> > its not

> > > > > > really happening properly (hyperactive mind). But

somehow, all

> > > > these

> > > > > > seemingly easy answers (like gainer/ loser in VRY, &

Zoran's

> > > > famous

> > > > > > doubel negatives, & now this one) continue to elude me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > St conjoins my Jp, slowing wisdom's effort in reaching

me. But

> > > > > > slowneasy wins the race, says St, ie if the audience is

still

> > > > awake/

> > > > > > alive by the time u reach the finishing line.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > =====

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nandan

> > > > > >

> > > >

> >

____________________

> > > > __

> > > > > > Looking for a job? Visit India Careers

> > > > > > Visit http://in.careers.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Group info: vedic-

> > astrology/info.html

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

@e...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your use of is subject to

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

> > > >

> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...

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> > > >

> > > > Your use of is subject to

> >

> > > >

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...

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> >

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> >

March 1, 2002

OK Partha, I'll go along with that!

-

"partvinu5" <partvinu5

Friday, March 01, 2002 9:52 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-dear nimmi

>

> dear Nimmi

>

> even though the person has moved to foreign residence very late, we

> can still consider his movement from his place due to the lagna being

> taurus.

>

> lagna lord in 3rd vs lagna lord in 12th??

>

> so after close deliberations of myself-(mercury seeing both the sides

> of the coin and getting thoroughly confused(hahahah), finally i

> think , hey with bated breath,) the final countdown-)))))taurus is

> the LAGNA.

>

> regards

> partha

>

> vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:

> > Dear Partha,

> >

> > Doesn't Saturn as YK for Venus ascendants in dushtana cause a VRY?

> >

> > This person also moved overseas around 1994 and is now settled

> there near

> > his son. This would be during Rahu dasa starting from the moon

> which would

> > fit as Rahu would then aspect the 4th house from its position in

> the 12th

> > and is associated with 4th lord.

> >

> > Ascendant ruler is in the 12th, again giving overseas residence.

> 5th ruler

> > in 12th also would show children resident overseas and also joining

> children

> > overseas.

> >

> > If we use Lagna as starting point for vimshottri (venus is

> associated with

> > more planets) then this happened during saturn dasa, perhaps giving

> the VRY?

> > However, then the 12th house effects that we have seen - residence

> > overseas - dont seem to apply that well.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Nimmi

> >

> > -

> > "partvinu5" <partvinu5>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Friday, March 01, 2002 9:16 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-

> dear nimmi

> >

> > >

> > > dear Nimmi

> > >

> > > even i forgot to ask the position of moon.

> > >

> > > interesting chart, if i use raman ayanamsa then Lagna is taurus

> with

> > > rahu in lagna. 4 planets in 12th house.

> > >

> > > Saturn in 8th house, a yogakaraka saturn is in 8th house!!!,.

> > >

> > > Rahu is in lagna describes his life to the tee. For describing his

> > > profession look at the dasamsa chart. 2nd 6th and 10th are the key

> > > houses here. 2nd has mars , 6th has mercury(communications) and

> sun,

> > > (govt) and 10th lord is in cancer with ketu.

> > >

> > > Look at navamsa chart moon is in A10 in aquarius and saturn and

> venus

> > > are in 6th house of service in GEMINI. thus he was a person in

> > > communications-postmaster and also low job.

> > >

> > > 9th lord is saturn and it describes his father.

> > >

> > > thus there are two possibilities, either change the time or use

> Raman

> > > ayanamsa. this would explain his miseries.

> > > regards

> > > partha

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...>

> wrote:

> > > > Partha,

> > > >

> > > > Actually I forgot, moon is in cancer in the 4th. I dont think I

> was

> > > counting

> > > > the ketu in the 7th. So does kedara still apply? He may have

> been

> > > slow and

> > > > steady with his work - he was reliable there.

> > > >

> > > > But the only way I can describe him is as amoral and self

> > > indulgent. Here, I

> > > > think the association of saturn, mars and rahu on the 9th may be

> > > the key.

> > > > Rahu is also degree conjunct with the ascendant (Ascendant is

> very

> > > close to

> > > > the edge. However, he had very beautiful curly hair when he was

> > > young and

> > > > lost it completely by around 30, so a high pitta lagna with

> venus

> > > in it

> > > > sounds good).

> > > >

> > > > However, I dont know why Jupiter and venus in the ascendant, the

> > > strong

> > > > gajakesari yoga and the aspect of Jupiter on the 9th didn't

> have an

> > > equally

> > > > beneficial effect. Moon is in aslesha nakshatra by the way.

> Chart is

> > > > attached.

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > >

> > > > Nimmi

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 8:10 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-

> dear

> > > nimmi

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > dear nimmi and list

> > > > >

> > > > > Kedar yoga doesnot necessarily mean that a person would be

> from

> > > > > farming community.

> > > > >

> > > > > And a small correction here, when we are considering nabhasa

> > > yogas we

> > > > > should not consider rahu and ketu. so here in your example he

> > > > > doesnot have kedara yoga but Sula yoga which is not favourable

> > > yoga.

> > > > > One born in this yoga suffers a lot.

> > > > >

> > > > > kedara yoga means that person will earn by agriculture type of

> > > > > activities. In todays world we should do practical analysis of

> > > > > charts. a person who is born in kedara yoga perserveres a lot

> and

> > > > > works hard for results. Now i have seen people who have this

> yoga

> > > and

> > > > > are working in BANKS. Thus slow and steady types these fellows

> > > are.

> > > > > regards

> > > > > partha

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan"

> <106350.3660@c...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > Nandan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have not found that Saturn in Sag for Aries lagna actually

> > > > > creates this

> > > > > > favourable situation. The person I know with this (Sun,

> Venus,

> > > > > Mercury,

> > > > > > Rahu, Jup, Lagna in Aries, Mars in Gemini, Ketu in Libra,

> > > Saturn in

> > > > > Sag) had

> > > > > > a pretty ordinary life that he managed to ruin completely

> > > through

> > > > > his own

> > > > > > actions. Was abandoned by most of his family and finally

> > > managed to

> > > > > gain

> > > > > > back an ordinary life through his son (3rd child, 9th house,

> > > > > saturn?). The

> > > > > > main features of this chart seem to be the kedara yoga (was

> > > born to

> > > > > a

> > > > > > farming family), parivartana between L1 and L3 (was a

> > > postmaster),

> > > > > mutual

> > > > > > aspect between mars and saturn (a very means justifies the

> ends

> > > > > type), and

> > > > > > the heavy occupation of lagna (parivraja yog which deprives

> him

> > > of

> > > > > wife,

> > > > > > family?).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If saturn in sag would be good, then the mutual aspect with

> L1

> > > mars

> > > > > should

> > > > > > have augmented it and created something observable. It did

> not.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nimmi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > "Nandan Chakraborty" <nanadhan>

> > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 6:12 AM

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Badhak in 9= Sadhak?!?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Gurus & friends

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have been reading a very enlightening book by R

> Lakshmanan,

> > > who

> > > > > is/

> > > > > > > used to be a very reputed astrologer 2-3 decades back.

> 1/4 way

> > > > > thru.

> > > > > > > Got stuck at his comment that "badhak in 9= sadhak"= RY=

> rise

> > > to

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > top. He was talking about St L10/11 in Sg for Ar Lg. But

> in

> > > the

> > > > > > > reference, I understood that he was talking in general for

> > > badhak

> > > > > in 9,

> > > > > > > & taking this case only as an example.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Most of the rest of the book is VERY good, replete with

> > > example-

> > > > > charts

> > > > > > > on each page, to cover EACH & EVERY concept in the text

> > > (unlike

> > > > > many

> > > > > > > modern authors who only collect aphorisms, so that most of

> > > their

> > > > > books

> > > > > > > are a monotone of serial nos, of X in Y+ Z assoc by T=

> wicked

> > > > > mother).

> > > > > > > So I cant ignore this statement, just b'cos I cd not

> > > understand

> > > > > it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What I understand is that badhakesh should ideally be

> weak (in

> > > > > dusthan,

> > > > > > > esp in 12= excellent, debilitated, combust, etc). Any

> clues?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Gurudev said that if I meditate every morning, & start

> > > looking at

> > > > > > > charts, all my answers will start coming to me. Well, much

> > > noise

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > being made in the mornings, as daily mantras are being

> full-

> > > > > throatedly

> > > > > > > recited(thank u Karen Sloker, for the clarification & VRA

> > > ref).

> > > > > Tho, as

> > > > > > > for meditation, Gurus, please give me a little more time -

> > > its not

> > > > > > > really happening properly (hyperactive mind). But

> somehow, all

> > > > > these

> > > > > > > seemingly easy answers (like gainer/ loser in VRY, &

> Zoran's

> > > > > famous

> > > > > > > doubel negatives, & now this one) continue to elude me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > St conjoins my Jp, slowing wisdom's effort in reaching

> me. But

> > > > > > > slowneasy wins the race, says St, ie if the audience is

> still

> > > > > awake/

> > > > > > > alive by the time u reach the finishing line.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > =====

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nandan

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> ____________________

> > > > > __

> > > > > > > Looking for a job? Visit India Careers

> > > > > > > Visit http://in.careers.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Group info: vedic-

> > > astrology/info.html

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> @e...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Your use of is subject to

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> > > > >

> > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...

> > > > >

> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > > >

> > > > > Your use of is subject to

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

> > > Your use of is subject to

>

> > >

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

March 1, 2002

Partha,

He was estranged from his father - saturn in the 9th seems appropriate.

Otherwise Jupiter will be in the 1st and cant explain it. Thanks for that. I

presume that even if the lagna changes to taurus the close conjunction of

rahu from the 12th affected his actions? Or perhaps venus as lagna lord in

12th house of self undoing.

Regards,

Nimmi

-

"partvinu5" <partvinu5

Friday, March 01, 2002 9:34 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-dear nimmi

>

> dear Nimmi

>

> if i use lahiri ayanamsa, still i could explain his profession and

> life????

>

> kedara yoga is there which i did not confirm in my previous post.

>

> A3 is in labha rasi so giving him gains through communications. Now

> if i see the dasamsa chart, 10th lord is in 6th house in gemini and

> it contains A3. thus the person would work for communications, the

> mutual opposition of mars and saturn is the key, must have never

> listened to his father and parents. Gaja kesari yoga means that we

> are discussin his chart today(laughs). seriously with so many

> afflictions do you think gaja kesari yoga will frucitfy.

> The most important thing is rahu conjunt lagna longitude. This may be

> really problematic for his life.

>

> I have seen that taurus guys mostly have curly hair though

> generalising is not the best of pracices.

>

> Saturn is in 9th suggesting his father(laughs)

>

> regards

> partha

>

> vedic astrology, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote:

> > dear Nimmi

> >

> > even i forgot to ask the position of moon.

> >

> > interesting chart, if i use raman ayanamsa then Lagna is taurus

> with

> > rahu in lagna. 4 planets in 12th house.

> >

> > Saturn in 8th house, a yogakaraka saturn is in 8th house!!!,.

> >

> > Rahu is in lagna describes his life to the tee. For describing his

> > profession look at the dasamsa chart. 2nd 6th and 10th are the key

> > houses here. 2nd has mars , 6th has mercury(communications) and

> sun,

> > (govt) and 10th lord is in cancer with ketu.

> >

> > Look at navamsa chart moon is in A10 in aquarius and saturn and

> venus

> > are in 6th house of service in GEMINI. thus he was a person in

> > communications-postmaster and also low job.

> >

> > 9th lord is saturn and it describes his father.

> >

> > thus there are two possibilities, either change the time or use

> Raman

> > ayanamsa. this would explain his miseries.

> > regards

> > partha

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...>

> wrote:

> > > Partha,

> > >

> > > Actually I forgot, moon is in cancer in the 4th. I dont think I

> was

> > counting

> > > the ketu in the 7th. So does kedara still apply? He may have been

> > slow and

> > > steady with his work - he was reliable there.

> > >

> > > But the only way I can describe him is as amoral and self

> > indulgent. Here, I

> > > think the association of saturn, mars and rahu on the 9th may be

> > the key.

> > > Rahu is also degree conjunct with the ascendant (Ascendant is

> very

> > close to

> > > the edge. However, he had very beautiful curly hair when he was

> > young and

> > > lost it completely by around 30, so a high pitta lagna with venus

> > in it

> > > sounds good).

> > >

> > > However, I dont know why Jupiter and venus in the ascendant, the

> > strong

> > > gajakesari yoga and the aspect of Jupiter on the 9th didn't have

> an

> > equally

> > > beneficial effect. Moon is in aslesha nakshatra by the way. Chart

> is

> > > attached.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Nimmi

> > >

> > > -

> > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Friday, March 01, 2002 8:10 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-dear

> > nimmi

> > >

> > > >

> > > > dear nimmi and list

> > > >

> > > > Kedar yoga doesnot necessarily mean that a person would be from

> > > > farming community.

> > > >

> > > > And a small correction here, when we are considering nabhasa

> > yogas we

> > > > should not consider rahu and ketu. so here in your example he

> > > > doesnot have kedara yoga but Sula yoga which is not favourable

> > yoga.

> > > > One born in this yoga suffers a lot.

> > > >

> > > > kedara yoga means that person will earn by agriculture type of

> > > > activities. In todays world we should do practical analysis of

> > > > charts. a person who is born in kedara yoga perserveres a lot

> and

> > > > works hard for results. Now i have seen people who have this

> yoga

> > and

> > > > are working in BANKS. Thus slow and steady types these fellows

> > are.

> > > > regards

> > > > partha

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...>

> > wrote:

> > > > > Nandan,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have not found that Saturn in Sag for Aries lagna actually

> > > > creates this

> > > > > favourable situation. The person I know with this (Sun, Venus,

> > > > Mercury,

> > > > > Rahu, Jup, Lagna in Aries, Mars in Gemini, Ketu in Libra,

> > Saturn in

> > > > Sag) had

> > > > > a pretty ordinary life that he managed to ruin completely

> > through

> > > > his own

> > > > > actions. Was abandoned by most of his family and finally

> > managed to

> > > > gain

> > > > > back an ordinary life through his son (3rd child, 9th house,

> > > > saturn?). The

> > > > > main features of this chart seem to be the kedara yoga (was

> > born to

> > > > a

> > > > > farming family), parivartana between L1 and L3 (was a

> > postmaster),

> > > > mutual

> > > > > aspect between mars and saturn (a very means justifies the

> ends

> > > > type), and

> > > > > the heavy occupation of lagna (parivraja yog which deprives

> him

> > of

> > > > wife,

> > > > > family?).

> > > > >

> > > > > If saturn in sag would be good, then the mutual aspect with

> L1

> > mars

> > > > should

> > > > > have augmented it and created something observable. It did

> not.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Nimmi

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > "Nandan Chakraborty" <nanadhan>

> > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 6:12 AM

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Badhak in 9= Sadhak?!?

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Gurus & friends

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have been reading a very enlightening book by R

> Lakshmanan,

> > who

> > > > is/

> > > > > > used to be a very reputed astrologer 2-3 decades back. 1/4

> way

> > > > thru.

> > > > > > Got stuck at his comment that "badhak in 9= sadhak"= RY=

> rise

> > to

> > > > the

> > > > > > top. He was talking about St L10/11 in Sg for Ar Lg. But in

> > the

> > > > > > reference, I understood that he was talking in general for

> > badhak

> > > > in 9,

> > > > > > & taking this case only as an example.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Most of the rest of the book is VERY good, replete with

> > example-

> > > > charts

> > > > > > on each page, to cover EACH & EVERY concept in the text

> > (unlike

> > > > many

> > > > > > modern authors who only collect aphorisms, so that most of

> > their

> > > > books

> > > > > > are a monotone of serial nos, of X in Y+ Z assoc by T=

> wicked

> > > > mother).

> > > > > > So I cant ignore this statement, just b'cos I cd not

> > understand

> > > > it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What I understand is that badhakesh should ideally be weak

> (in

> > > > dusthan,

> > > > > > esp in 12= excellent, debilitated, combust, etc). Any clues?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gurudev said that if I meditate every morning, & start

> > looking at

> > > > > > charts, all my answers will start coming to me. Well, much

> > noise

> > > > is

> > > > > > being made in the mornings, as daily mantras are being full-

> > > > throatedly

> > > > > > recited(thank u Karen Sloker, for the clarification & VRA

> > ref).

> > > > Tho, as

> > > > > > for meditation, Gurus, please give me a little more time -

> > its not

> > > > > > really happening properly (hyperactive mind). But somehow,

> all

> > > > these

> > > > > > seemingly easy answers (like gainer/ loser in VRY, & Zoran's

> > > > famous

> > > > > > doubel negatives, & now this one) continue to elude me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > St conjoins my Jp, slowing wisdom's effort in reaching me.

> But

> > > > > > slowneasy wins the race, says St, ie if the audience is

> still

> > > > awake/

> > > > > > alive by the time u reach the finishing line.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > =====

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nandan

> > > > > >

> > > >

> >

> ____________________

> > > > __

> > > > > > Looking for a job? Visit India Careers

> > > > > > Visit http://in.careers.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Group info: vedic-

> > astrology/info.html

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> @e...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your use of is subject to

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> > > >

> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...

> > > >

> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > >

> > > > Your use of is subject to

> >

> > > >

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

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