Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Dear Zoran, May I address you with the following two questions: 1. How will you interpret the situation where AK is debilitated in both rasi and navamsa ? 2. As above but together with YK in the navamsa ? Kind regards Jay Weiss - "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa <vedic astrology> Friday, March 01, 2002 11:34 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Very strong AK > Dear Nimmi, > Atmakarak ruling lagna and further so strong would set a scene for rise and > success. Being in dusthana and so strong it would guard the native, and may > give success through 6th house significations. Being exalted in pisces for > libra lagna, means that person would meet impossible odds in life but would > overcome due to such strenght. If varghtotama in navamsa, the spiritual aspect > may be pronounced. > Best wishes, > Zoran > > Nimmi Ragavan wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > I have a chart here where the AK and ascendant lord Venus (Libra asc) is > > exalted in Pisces in 10 out of 20 divisional charts. It is not debilitated > > in any of the other divisions either. > > > > Does anyone have any ideas on this? > > > > Regards, > > > > Nimmi > > > > - > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5 > > <vedic astrology> > > Friday, March 01, 2002 9:16 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > even i forgot to ask the position of moon. > > > > > > interesting chart, if i use raman ayanamsa then Lagna is taurus with > > > rahu in lagna. 4 planets in 12th house. > > > > > > Saturn in 8th house, a yogakaraka saturn is in 8th house!!!,. > > > > > > Rahu is in lagna describes his life to the tee. For describing his > > > profession look at the dasamsa chart. 2nd 6th and 10th are the key > > > houses here. 2nd has mars , 6th has mercury(communications) and sun, > > > (govt) and 10th lord is in cancer with ketu. > > > > > > Look at navamsa chart moon is in A10 in aquarius and saturn and venus > > > are in 6th house of service in GEMINI. thus he was a person in > > > communications-postmaster and also low job. > > > > > > 9th lord is saturn and it describes his father. > > > > > > thus there are two possibilities, either change the time or use Raman > > > ayanamsa. this would explain his miseries. > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > > > > Partha, > > > > > > > > Actually I forgot, moon is in cancer in the 4th. I dont think I was > > > counting > > > > the ketu in the 7th. So does kedara still apply? He may have been > > > slow and > > > > steady with his work - he was reliable there. > > > > > > > > But the only way I can describe him is as amoral and self > > > indulgent. Here, I > > > > think the association of saturn, mars and rahu on the 9th may be > > > the key. > > > > Rahu is also degree conjunct with the ascendant (Ascendant is very > > > close to > > > > the edge. However, he had very beautiful curly hair when he was > > > young and > > > > lost it completely by around 30, so a high pitta lagna with venus > > > in it > > > > sounds good). > > > > > > > > However, I dont know why Jupiter and venus in the ascendant, the > > > strong > > > > gajakesari yoga and the aspect of Jupiter on the 9th didn't have an > > > equally > > > > beneficial effect. Moon is in aslesha nakshatra by the way. Chart is > > > > attached. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > - > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 8:10 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Kedara yoga and the nabhasa yogas-dear > > > nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi and list > > > > > > > > > > Kedar yoga doesnot necessarily mean that a person would be from > > > > > farming community. > > > > > > > > > > And a small correction here, when we are considering nabhasa > > > yogas we > > > > > should not consider rahu and ketu. so here in your example he > > > > > doesnot have kedara yoga but Sula yoga which is not favourable > > > yoga. > > > > > One born in this yoga suffers a lot. > > > > > > > > > > kedara yoga means that person will earn by agriculture type of > > > > > activities. In todays world we should do practical analysis of > > > > > charts. a person who is born in kedara yoga perserveres a lot and > > > > > works hard for results. Now i have seen people who have this yoga > > > and > > > > > are working in BANKS. Thus slow and steady types these fellows > > > are. > > > > > regards > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Nandan, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not found that Saturn in Sag for Aries lagna actually > > > > > creates this > > > > > > favourable situation. The person I know with this (Sun, Venus, > > > > > Mercury, > > > > > > Rahu, Jup, Lagna in Aries, Mars in Gemini, Ketu in Libra, > > > Saturn in > > > > > Sag) had > > > > > > a pretty ordinary life that he managed to ruin completely > > > through > > > > > his own > > > > > > actions. Was abandoned by most of his family and finally > > > managed to > > > > > gain > > > > > > back an ordinary life through his son (3rd child, 9th house, > > > > > saturn?). The > > > > > > main features of this chart seem to be the kedara yoga (was > > > born to > > > > > a > > > > > > farming family), parivartana between L1 and L3 (was a > > > postmaster), > > > > > mutual > > > > > > aspect between mars and saturn (a very means justifies the ends > > > > > type), and > > > > > > the heavy occupation of lagna (parivraja yog which deprives him > > > of > > > > > wife, > > > > > > family?). > > > > > > > > > > > > If saturn in sag would be good, then the mutual aspect with L1 > > > mars > > > > > should > > > > > > have augmented it and created something observable. It did not. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > "Nandan Chakraborty" <nanadhan> > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 6:12 AM > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Badhak in 9= Sadhak?!? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gurus & friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been reading a very enlightening book by R Lakshmanan, > > > who > > > > > is/ > > > > > > > used to be a very reputed astrologer 2-3 decades back. 1/4 way > > > > > thru. > > > > > > > Got stuck at his comment that "badhak in 9= sadhak"= RY= rise > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > top. He was talking about St L10/11 in Sg for Ar Lg. But in > > > the > > > > > > > reference, I understood that he was talking in general for > > > badhak > > > > > in 9, > > > > > > > & taking this case only as an example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of the rest of the book is VERY good, replete with > > > example- > > > > > charts > > > > > > > on each page, to cover EACH & EVERY concept in the text > > > (unlike > > > > > many > > > > > > > modern authors who only collect aphorisms, so that most of > > > their > > > > > books > > > > > > > are a monotone of serial nos, of X in Y+ Z assoc by T= wicked > > > > > mother). > > > > > > > So I cant ignore this statement, just b'cos I cd not > > > understand > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I understand is that badhakesh should ideally be weak (in > > > > > dusthan, > > > > > > > esp in 12= excellent, debilitated, combust, etc). Any clues? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurudev said that if I meditate every morning, & start > > > looking at > > > > > > > charts, all my answers will start coming to me. Well, much > > > noise > > > > > is > > > > > > > being made in the mornings, as daily mantras are being full- > > > > > throatedly > > > > > > > recited(thank u Karen Sloker, for the clarification & VRA > > > ref). > > > > > Tho, as > > > > > > > for meditation, Gurus, please give me a little more time - > > > its not > > > > > > > really happening properly (hyperactive mind). But somehow, all > > > > > these > > > > > > > seemingly easy answers (like gainer/ loser in VRY, & Zoran's > > > > > famous > > > > > > > doubel negatives, & now this one) continue to elude me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > St conjoins my Jp, slowing wisdom's effort in reaching me. But > > > > > > > slowneasy wins the race, says St, ie if the audience is still > > > > > awake/ > > > > > > > alive by the time u reach the finishing line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nandan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > > > __ > > > > > > > Looking for a job? Visit India Careers > > > > > > > Visit http://in.careers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Dear Jay, > 1. How will you interpret the situation where AK is debilitated in both rasi and navamsa ? > Well, it all depends, on whether Atmakarak is benefic or malefic. Benefic in debilitation as atmakara if placed in 3rd or 6th from Arudha Lagna would confer great rise particularly if associated with Navamsa Lagna. If malefic is placed in the same manner, it could give tremendous spirituality. So it may be a blessing in disguise. Basically, Atmakarak should be well placed for smooth sailing in life. It is the king. If debilitated, the king is weak and the kingdom suffers. If further is varghotama, then the weakness is very strong. > 2. As above but together with YK in the navamsa ? What did you mean by YK? Best wishes, Zoran -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa ahimsa web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Sorry Zoran, my fault. YK = Yogakaraka. My question was in absolutely general terms as I think it will also benefit others members. Naturally the others factors will come into play as well. Kind regards Jay - "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa <vedic astrology> Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:33 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Very strong AK -For Zoran > Dear Jay, > > > 1. How will you interpret the situation where AK is debilitated in both rasi and navamsa ? > > > > Well, it all depends, on whether Atmakarak is benefic or malefic. Benefic in debilitation as > atmakara if placed in 3rd or 6th from Arudha Lagna would confer great rise particularly if > associated with Navamsa Lagna. If malefic is placed in the same manner, it could give > tremendous spirituality. So it may be a blessing in disguise. Basically, Atmakarak should be > well placed for smooth sailing in life. It is the king. If debilitated, the king is weak and > the kingdom suffers. If further is varghotama, then the weakness is very strong. > > > 2. As above but together with YK in the navamsa ? > > What did you mean by YK? > Best wishes, > Zoran > -- > Zoran Radosavljevic > Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre > mails: ahimsa > ahimsa > web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Dear Zoran, How would my AK Venus/Virgo/Deb with Jupiter and Moon rasi, 12th from AL/Libra. Venus is in Leo Navamsa, 4th house with Mars and Mercury, perform. I guess 12th matters would apply to AK Venus in 12th from AL? Venus AK one has to watch how he treats the opposite sex, 12th house is final liberation, meditation, losses, and bed pleasures. Sam Pierce Fayetteville, North Carolina USA - "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa <vedic astrology> Friday, March 01, 2002 8:33 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Very strong AK -For Zoran > Dear Jay, > > > 1. How will you interpret the situation where AK is debilitated in both rasi and navamsa ? > > > > Well, it all depends, on whether Atmakarak is benefic or malefic. Benefic in debilitation as > atmakara if placed in 3rd or 6th from Arudha Lagna would confer great rise particularly if > associated with Navamsa Lagna. If malefic is placed in the same manner, it could give > tremendous spirituality. So it may be a blessing in disguise. Basically, Atmakarak should be > well placed for smooth sailing in life. It is the king. If debilitated, the king is weak and > the kingdom suffers. If further is varghotama, then the weakness is very strong. > > > 2. As above but together with YK in the navamsa ? > > What did you mean by YK? > Best wishes, > Zoran > -- > Zoran Radosavljevic > Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre > mails: ahimsa > ahimsa > web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Sam Pierce 2.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Dear Sam, Atmakarak in neecha in virgo in 12th from AL would indicate problems on marrital/love aspect which is very difficult to overcome. With moon and jupiter there would be neecha bhanga due to jupiter conjunct moon. Success in 12th house affaris are indicated, mostly related to work area if other indications confirm. The question is whether Venus can rule Navamsa Lagna in your chart, Were you born in well-off and successful family? Best wishes, Zoran R STARKINGS wrote: > Dear Zoran, > > How would my AK Venus/Virgo/Deb with Jupiter and Moon rasi, 12th from > AL/Libra. Venus is in Leo Navamsa, 4th house with Mars and Mercury, > perform. I guess 12th matters would apply to AK Venus in 12th from AL? > Venus AK one has to watch how he treats the opposite sex, 12th house is > final liberation, meditation, losses, and bed pleasures. > > Sam Pierce > Fayetteville, North Carolina > USA > > - > "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa > <vedic astrology> > Friday, March 01, 2002 8:33 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Very strong AK -For Zoran > > > Dear Jay, > > > > > 1. How will you interpret the situation where AK is debilitated in both > rasi and navamsa ? > > > > > > > Well, it all depends, on whether Atmakarak is benefic or malefic. Benefic > in debilitation as > > atmakara if placed in 3rd or 6th from Arudha Lagna would confer great rise > particularly if > > associated with Navamsa Lagna. If malefic is placed in the same manner, it > could give > > tremendous spirituality. So it may be a blessing in disguise. Basically, > Atmakarak should be > > well placed for smooth sailing in life. It is the king. If debilitated, > the king is weak and > > the kingdom suffers. If further is varghotama, then the weakness is very > strong. > > > > > 2. As above but together with YK in the navamsa ? > > > > What did you mean by YK? > > Best wishes, > > Zoran > > -- > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre > > mails: ahimsa > > ahimsa > > web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > ------ > Name: Sam Pierce 2.jhd > Sam Pierce 2.jhd Type: Jagannatha Hora Data (application/x-unknown-content-type-JHora.Document) > Encoding: 7bit -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa ahimsa web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Dear Zoran, How does one interpret when the AK is (chart attched): 1. exalted & vargottam 2. RYK - kendra lord in Kona 3. also badhakesh Thanks in anticipation of your reply, With best regards Shailesh - Zoran Radosavljevic vedic astrology Saturday, March 02, 2002 7:03 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Very strong AK -For Zoran Dear Jay,> 1. How will you interpret the situation where AK is debilitated in both rasi and navamsa ?>Well, it all depends, on whether Atmakarak is benefic or malefic. Benefic in debilitation asatmakara if placed in 3rd or 6th from Arudha Lagna would confer great rise particularly ifassociated with Navamsa Lagna. If malefic is placed in the same manner, it could givetremendous spirituality. So it may be a blessing in disguise. Basically, Atmakarak should bewell placed for smooth sailing in life. It is the king. If debilitated, the king is weak andthe kingdom suffers. If further is varghotama, then the weakness is very strong.> 2. As above but together with YK in the navamsa ?What did you mean by YK?Best wishes,Zoran--Zoran RadosavljevicJyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centremails: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net ahimsa (AT) neobee (DOT) netweb address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Chart for Zoran.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 Dear Shailesh, I myself have ATAMAKARAK in pisces in varghotama. That means that the punishment and the guiding force of ATMA is very strong. In my case it is SHANIDEV who is also ATMA AND ISHTA, so when I dive deep into SELF, nothing else matters...If atma is in the proces RAJA JOGA KARAK then it is excellent for smooth life, more so if placed in kendras/trines from AL. IF badhakesh, the punishement may come through physical illness, particularly if in fixed navamsa. See the navamsa of badhakesh and judge.. As for as ATMAKARAK in varghotama, I have seen a chart of a lady doctor today who is the HEAD of the REHABILITATION CLINICS, with thula lagna and atmakarak SHUKRA AS LAGNA LORD IN VARGHOTAMA.(SHUKRA as knower of Mritunjaya.. no wonder..) I think we had similar position given by Nimi. SHUKRA is Retrograde, and until now, she is not married and no children yet. She is 41 years old. See the punishment...Some slim chances for marriage will be soon yet she would have to give up all her career since the partner is abroad and is asking her to leave everything.. Strange are God's ways.. OM TAT SAT -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa ahimsa web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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