Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 dear Nimmi i take 5th house, panchamsa, moon and jupiter for fame. 10th is karma and professsion place, not necessarily fame. A5 shows success as percieved by this world and thus fame. regards partha vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > Dear Partha, > > Isn't fame associated with the 10th house? > > Regards, > > Nimmi > - > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > <vedic astrology> > Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:47 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > your last post was very interesting. I do agree that fame and career > > success are two different things. SOme have fame as well as career > > sucess. Some get fame due to thier social activities, due to > > philantrhphy etc. > > > > That was not the point. Mahatam Gandhi had moon and rahu in 10th > > house, Shri KN rao has jupiter in 10th exalted for libra lagna, is > > not he famous in what he chose as his karma. > > > > 10th can be a very specific profession or karma depending upon the > > planetary alignments. and it is very well given in shastras that > > lagna lord in simhasanamsa -provided it is not combust and > > debilitated in vargas does give strong raja yoga. > > > > Thus despite the best of placements we can explain why so and so is > > not so famous. ANd i have found that after analysing planetary > > placements if i use ashtakavarga analysis i can know how much?? a > > person can achieve. it has worked for me. there might be instances > > where there are people who may not give importance to ashtakavarga. > > > > Strong bindus in ashtakavarga complement the raja yogas present in > > the chart and not the other way round. Shri vajpayee has strong > > dasamsa chart and added to it is the fact that there are favourable > > bindus in ashtakavarga chart for dasamasa varga. > > > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > > > Partha, > > > > > > Why do you expect fame of that order just based on planetary > > positions? > > > There must be a very large number of people born around that time > > who also > > > have the same. > > > > > > A strong lagna lord gives good physical health and resilience. It > > also gives > > > a strong sense of individuality. This person looks vastly younger > > than his > > > age, is almost always happy and never bored. He actually has > > everything he > > > wants. With exalted saturn in the ascendant, he actually does not > > need very > > > much. He dresses in the most plain manner, drives unremarkable > > cars, does > > > not live in an ostentatious house (but has multiple properties). > > > > > > I think you need a lot of concentration on 10th to want to be > > famous. This > > > chart is too spread around. My brother with 4 planets in the 10th > > and > > > another friend with 3 planets in the 10th are far more success > > oriented. And > > > both have raja yogas in the 10th so that success has in fact beein > > achieved. > > > > > > This person actually does not like attention. He does not believe in > > > politics and has never voted in his life. He does not want power, > > has turned > > > down management positions to continue doing what he does. He does > > not belong > > > to any clubs or organizations. The only thing he absolutely loves > > is travel > > > and foreign countries. Once he spent 10 years with his birthday > > every year > > > in a different country. Measured by what he wants he is very > > successful. He > > > has never had financial pressures even when he was not being paid. > > I think > > > this is because Jupiter is actually kept under check by the aspect > > of > > > saturn, which curbs any excessive ambition that the strong jupiter > > could > > > have generated. This is a person who does not get into excessive > > debt, who > > > spends half of what he can actually afford, had no need for > > recognition for > > > anything other than writing good software. And that only by the > > users of > > > that software. > > > > > > Another person I know with 3 exalted planets and jupiter in own > > sign works > > > from home. Does not want to be famous (sun exalted in 4th!), just > > wants to > > > work from home and spend time with his family etc. He actually does > > very > > > well financially from this work. > > > > > > Success and fame are two different things. Success is achieving > > what you > > > want. Fame is being well known. If the 10th has a lot of energy > > > concentration then the two can come together. Look at Einstein and > > the > > > neecha bhanga in the 10th house. The 9th and 10th are in exchange, > > venus is > > > exalted in the 10th and lagna lord neecha bhanga in the 10th. Now > > that to me > > > would indicate fame much more. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > - > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > <vedic astrology> > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:13 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > My point regarding ashtakavarga was simple. See just think about > > it, > > > > if a chart has four exalted planets and two exalted planets > > > > vargottama , he must achieve great heights and be very popular as > > the > > > > lagna lord is in simhasanamsa. > > > > > > > > Thus the ashtakavarga did not fail as it showed that despite the > > > > great yogas and the great combinations the person is not very > > famous. > > > > in the other case there are really not so favourable > > combinations so > > > > ashtakavarga doesnot make much of a difference.the chart of > > > > postmaster, moon has no planets besides it. and there are so many > > > > afflictions in the chart. so ashtakavarga doesnot make a huge > > > > difference right. > > > > regards > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > You are spot on about the relationship with the father.And yes, > > he > > > > tends to > > > > > challenge authority where he thinks it is mistaken. But people > > tend > > > > to > > > > > respect him for it as he does not really do so for egoistic > > reasons. > > > > > > > > > > Neither does he have many enemies or opposition. I would say he > > has > > > > always > > > > > had a pretty smooth sailing life without a great deal of effort > > on > > > > his part. > > > > > I think the strong venus in the 6th prevents illnesses and > > enemies. > > > > I think > > > > > because both the grahas associated with the 6th are benefics. > > > > However the > > > > > association with the 6th make him a VERY hard worker. > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter dasa is currently running and gave him the opportunity > > to > > > > move to a > > > > > new country and settle there - a second migration. It gave him > > > > property > > > > > overseas (aspect on 4th house?). But it also gave some problems > > at > > > > the work > > > > > place as his company had serious problems for a while and could > > not > > > > meet its > > > > > financial obligations. This happened during Jupiter-Venus, where > > > > you would > > > > > expect the 6th house effects to peak. Basically he had to keep > > > > working very > > > > > hard for no pay for a year or so. > > > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa was very successful for him. During that time he > > > > travelled a lot > > > > > and also was considered the top professional in his company. > > But he > > > > has > > > > > always had a good reputation at work. > > > > > > > > > > Regarding ashtakavarga - I would say he is far more successful > > than > > > > I am in > > > > > his profession (we both work in computers) and I have 30 points > > in > > > > my lagna > > > > > and 43 points in my 10th house. My 10th ruler is in the 12th > > > > combust and his > > > > > is in the 4th with digbala, with dispositor also exalted in a > > > > kendra, > > > > > aspected by a strong Jupiter from the 10th. I think graha > > > > > positions/strengths and yogas give more accurate results. My > > > > brother who has > > > > > had a brilliant career history has 24 in lagna and 32 in the > > 10th. > > > > But he > > > > > has about 4 grahas in his 10th forming raja yogas etc with all > > the > > > > right > > > > > dasas coming at the right age. And if you check chartx.jhd I > > sent > > > > earlier > > > > > (Taurus lagna) you find 42 points in the 10th in ashtakavarga! > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 3:39 AM > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > when i looked at this chart, i said oh my god!!!. SO many > > exalted > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > That was the first look, now the depth, despite the fact that > > > > there > > > > > > are so many exalted planets, there are some weak points too. > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > is vargottama, jupiter is enemy for this lagna thus his > > strength > > > > is > > > > > > only strengthening his enemies. added to it is the fact that > > > > venus is > > > > > > also vargottama and his dispositor jupiter is exalted!!. It is > > > > not my > > > > > > prerogative to find faults but yes there are some > > difficulties for > > > > > > the native. He would invite enmeies and also has good amount > > of > > > > > > opposition in his life. But 6th house is a great upachaya > > sthana > > > > and > > > > > > thus the person will rise with will and determination. > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked the ashtakavarga for both rasi and dasamsa. > > > > > > the figures are 29-1st house, 29-10th house in rasi > > > > > > > > > > > > 27 -1st house and 31 for 10th house in dasamsa chart. thus > > this > > > > > > person is not so SUCCESSFUL, as he would have liked to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > The strong opposition of sun and saturn in his chart shows > > that he > > > > > > doesnot like authority, may have despised father or fought > > with > > > > boss > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and saturn are not well placed in navamsa there is a > > > > technique > > > > > > that i use to ascertain the real strength of planets and on > > this > > > > > > count saturn fares poorly. Added to it is rahu, he is > > debilitated > > > > in > > > > > > rasi and aspects 9th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Good chart on initial look but not so extraordiary when going > > > > deep. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not done Arudha analysis because there are many > > experts in > > > > > > this list who can do much better than me. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is 4:46 pm on 13th May 1955 170E30 45S53 +12:00 GMT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attached file was a jhd file which can be opened with > > JHL - > > > > > > this was > > > > > > > done before Narasimha released his new version. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You shouldn't belittle your brain so much you know, it > > seems to > > > > do > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > well! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 11:08 AM > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could you be more clear with the details, may be time, > > place > > > > and > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > of birth. the downloaded data file is showing some strange > > > > numbers > > > > > > > > which are confusing my little brain. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Dear Partha, How do you judge the fame of this person? Regards, Nimmi - "partvinu5" <partvinu5 <vedic astrology> Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:49 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Fame: AK-dear nimmi > > dear Nimmi > > i take 5th house, panchamsa, moon and jupiter for fame. 10th is karma > and professsion place, not necessarily fame. A5 shows success as > percieved by this world and thus fame. > > regards > partha > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > > Dear Partha, > > > > Isn't fame associated with the 10th house? > > > > Regards, > > > > Nimmi > > - > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > <vedic astrology> > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:47 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > your last post was very interesting. I do agree that fame and > career > > > success are two different things. SOme have fame as well as career > > > sucess. Some get fame due to thier social activities, due to > > > philantrhphy etc. > > > > > > That was not the point. Mahatam Gandhi had moon and rahu in 10th > > > house, Shri KN rao has jupiter in 10th exalted for libra lagna, is > > > not he famous in what he chose as his karma. > > > > > > 10th can be a very specific profession or karma depending upon the > > > planetary alignments. and it is very well given in shastras that > > > lagna lord in simhasanamsa -provided it is not combust and > > > debilitated in vargas does give strong raja yoga. > > > > > > Thus despite the best of placements we can explain why so and so > is > > > not so famous. ANd i have found that after analysing planetary > > > placements if i use ashtakavarga analysis i can know how much?? a > > > person can achieve. it has worked for me. there might be instances > > > where there are people who may not give importance to > ashtakavarga. > > > > > > Strong bindus in ashtakavarga complement the raja yogas present in > > > the chart and not the other way round. Shri vajpayee has strong > > > dasamsa chart and added to it is the fact that there are > favourable > > > bindus in ashtakavarga chart for dasamasa varga. > > > > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> > wrote: > > > > Partha, > > > > > > > > Why do you expect fame of that order just based on planetary > > > positions? > > > > There must be a very large number of people born around that > time > > > who also > > > > have the same. > > > > > > > > A strong lagna lord gives good physical health and resilience. > It > > > also gives > > > > a strong sense of individuality. This person looks vastly > younger > > > than his > > > > age, is almost always happy and never bored. He actually has > > > everything he > > > > wants. With exalted saturn in the ascendant, he actually does > not > > > need very > > > > much. He dresses in the most plain manner, drives unremarkable > > > cars, does > > > > not live in an ostentatious house (but has multiple properties). > > > > > > > > I think you need a lot of concentration on 10th to want to be > > > famous. This > > > > chart is too spread around. My brother with 4 planets in the > 10th > > > and > > > > another friend with 3 planets in the 10th are far more success > > > oriented. And > > > > both have raja yogas in the 10th so that success has in fact > beein > > > achieved. > > > > > > > > This person actually does not like attention. He does not > believe in > > > > politics and has never voted in his life. He does not want > power, > > > has turned > > > > down management positions to continue doing what he does. He > does > > > not belong > > > > to any clubs or organizations. The only thing he absolutely > loves > > > is travel > > > > and foreign countries. Once he spent 10 years with his birthday > > > every year > > > > in a different country. Measured by what he wants he is very > > > successful. He > > > > has never had financial pressures even when he was not being > paid. > > > I think > > > > this is because Jupiter is actually kept under check by the > aspect > > > of > > > > saturn, which curbs any excessive ambition that the strong > jupiter > > > could > > > > have generated. This is a person who does not get into excessive > > > debt, who > > > > spends half of what he can actually afford, had no need for > > > recognition for > > > > anything other than writing good software. And that only by the > > > users of > > > > that software. > > > > > > > > Another person I know with 3 exalted planets and jupiter in own > > > sign works > > > > from home. Does not want to be famous (sun exalted in 4th!), > just > > > wants to > > > > work from home and spend time with his family etc. He actually > does > > > very > > > > well financially from this work. > > > > > > > > Success and fame are two different things. Success is achieving > > > what you > > > > want. Fame is being well known. If the 10th has a lot of energy > > > > concentration then the two can come together. Look at Einstein > and > > > the > > > > neecha bhanga in the 10th house. The 9th and 10th are in > exchange, > > > venus is > > > > exalted in the 10th and lagna lord neecha bhanga in the 10th. > Now > > > that to me > > > > would indicate fame much more. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:13 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > My point regarding ashtakavarga was simple. See just think > about > > > it, > > > > > if a chart has four exalted planets and two exalted planets > > > > > vargottama , he must achieve great heights and be very > popular as > > > the > > > > > lagna lord is in simhasanamsa. > > > > > > > > > > Thus the ashtakavarga did not fail as it showed that despite > the > > > > > great yogas and the great combinations the person is not very > > > famous. > > > > > in the other case there are really not so favourable > > > combinations so > > > > > ashtakavarga doesnot make much of a difference.the chart of > > > > > postmaster, moon has no planets besides it. and there are so > many > > > > > afflictions in the chart. so ashtakavarga doesnot make a huge > > > > > difference right. > > > > > regards > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > <106350.3660@c...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are spot on about the relationship with the father.And > yes, > > > he > > > > > tends to > > > > > > challenge authority where he thinks it is mistaken. But > people > > > tend > > > > > to > > > > > > respect him for it as he does not really do so for egoistic > > > reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither does he have many enemies or opposition. I would > say he > > > has > > > > > always > > > > > > had a pretty smooth sailing life without a great deal of > effort > > > on > > > > > his part. > > > > > > I think the strong venus in the 6th prevents illnesses and > > > enemies. > > > > > I think > > > > > > because both the grahas associated with the 6th are > benefics. > > > > > However the > > > > > > association with the 6th make him a VERY hard worker. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter dasa is currently running and gave him the > opportunity > > > to > > > > > move to a > > > > > > new country and settle there - a second migration. It gave > him > > > > > property > > > > > > overseas (aspect on 4th house?). But it also gave some > problems > > > at > > > > > the work > > > > > > place as his company had serious problems for a while and > could > > > not > > > > > meet its > > > > > > financial obligations. This happened during Jupiter-Venus, > where > > > > > you would > > > > > > expect the 6th house effects to peak. Basically he had to > keep > > > > > working very > > > > > > hard for no pay for a year or so. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa was very successful for him. During that time he > > > > > travelled a lot > > > > > > and also was considered the top professional in his company. > > > But he > > > > > has > > > > > > always had a good reputation at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding ashtakavarga - I would say he is far more > successful > > > than > > > > > I am in > > > > > > his profession (we both work in computers) and I have 30 > points > > > in > > > > > my lagna > > > > > > and 43 points in my 10th house. My 10th ruler is in the 12th > > > > > combust and his > > > > > > is in the 4th with digbala, with dispositor also exalted in > a > > > > > kendra, > > > > > > aspected by a strong Jupiter from the 10th. I think graha > > > > > > positions/strengths and yogas give more accurate results. My > > > > > brother who has > > > > > > had a brilliant career history has 24 in lagna and 32 in the > > > 10th. > > > > > But he > > > > > > has about 4 grahas in his 10th forming raja yogas etc with > all > > > the > > > > > right > > > > > > dasas coming at the right age. And if you check chartx.jhd I > > > sent > > > > > earlier > > > > > > (Taurus lagna) you find 42 points in the 10th in > ashtakavarga! > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 3:39 AM > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when i looked at this chart, i said oh my god!!!. SO many > > > exalted > > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was the first look, now the depth, despite the fact > that > > > > > there > > > > > > > are so many exalted planets, there are some weak points > too. > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > is vargottama, jupiter is enemy for this lagna thus his > > > strength > > > > > is > > > > > > > only strengthening his enemies. added to it is the fact > that > > > > > venus is > > > > > > > also vargottama and his dispositor jupiter is exalted!!. > It is > > > > > not my > > > > > > > prerogative to find faults but yes there are some > > > difficulties for > > > > > > > the native. He would invite enmeies and also has good > amount > > > of > > > > > > > opposition in his life. But 6th house is a great upachaya > > > sthana > > > > > and > > > > > > > thus the person will rise with will and determination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked the ashtakavarga for both rasi and dasamsa. > > > > > > > the figures are 29-1st house, 29-10th house in rasi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27 -1st house and 31 for 10th house in dasamsa chart. thus > > > this > > > > > > > person is not so SUCCESSFUL, as he would have liked to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The strong opposition of sun and saturn in his chart shows > > > that he > > > > > > > doesnot like authority, may have despised father or fought > > > with > > > > > boss > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and saturn are not well placed in navamsa there is a > > > > > technique > > > > > > > that i use to ascertain the real strength of planets and > on > > > this > > > > > > > count saturn fares poorly. Added to it is rahu, he is > > > debilitated > > > > > in > > > > > > > rasi and aspects 9th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good chart on initial look but not so extraordiary when > going > > > > > deep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not done Arudha analysis because there are many > > > experts in > > > > > > > this list who can do much better than me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is 4:46 pm on 13th May 1955 170E30 45S53 +12:00 GMT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attached file was a jhd file which can be opened > with > > > JHL - > > > > > > > this was > > > > > > > > done before Narasimha released his new version. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You shouldn't belittle your brain so much you know, it > > > seems to > > > > > do > > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > well! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 11:08 AM > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could you be more clear with the details, may be time, > > > place > > > > > and > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > of birth. the downloaded data file is showing some > strange > > > > > numbers > > > > > > > > > which are confusing my little brain. > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Jeeva Chapman.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 dear Nimmi Who is this person. i have not heard of the name. regards partha vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > Dear Partha, > > How do you judge the fame of this person? > > Regards, > > Nimmi > - > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > <vedic astrology> > Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:49 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Fame: AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > i take 5th house, panchamsa, moon and jupiter for fame. 10th is karma > > and professsion place, not necessarily fame. A5 shows success as > > percieved by this world and thus fame. > > > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > Isn't fame associated with the 10th house? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Nimmi > > > - > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > <vedic astrology> > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:47 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > > > your last post was very interesting. I do agree that fame and > > career > > > > success are two different things. SOme have fame as well as career > > > > sucess. Some get fame due to thier social activities, due to > > > > philantrhphy etc. > > > > > > > > That was not the point. Mahatam Gandhi had moon and rahu in 10th > > > > house, Shri KN rao has jupiter in 10th exalted for libra lagna, is > > > > not he famous in what he chose as his karma. > > > > > > > > 10th can be a very specific profession or karma depending upon the > > > > planetary alignments. and it is very well given in shastras that > > > > lagna lord in simhasanamsa -provided it is not combust and > > > > debilitated in vargas does give strong raja yoga. > > > > > > > > Thus despite the best of placements we can explain why so and so > > is > > > > not so famous. ANd i have found that after analysing planetary > > > > placements if i use ashtakavarga analysis i can know how much?? a > > > > person can achieve. it has worked for me. there might be instances > > > > where there are people who may not give importance to > > ashtakavarga. > > > > > > > > Strong bindus in ashtakavarga complement the raja yogas present in > > > > the chart and not the other way round. Shri vajpayee has strong > > > > dasamsa chart and added to it is the fact that there are > > favourable > > > > bindus in ashtakavarga chart for dasamasa varga. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> > > wrote: > > > > > Partha, > > > > > > > > > > Why do you expect fame of that order just based on planetary > > > > positions? > > > > > There must be a very large number of people born around that > > time > > > > who also > > > > > have the same. > > > > > > > > > > A strong lagna lord gives good physical health and resilience. > > It > > > > also gives > > > > > a strong sense of individuality. This person looks vastly > > younger > > > > than his > > > > > age, is almost always happy and never bored. He actually has > > > > everything he > > > > > wants. With exalted saturn in the ascendant, he actually does > > not > > > > need very > > > > > much. He dresses in the most plain manner, drives unremarkable > > > > cars, does > > > > > not live in an ostentatious house (but has multiple properties). > > > > > > > > > > I think you need a lot of concentration on 10th to want to be > > > > famous. This > > > > > chart is too spread around. My brother with 4 planets in the > > 10th > > > > and > > > > > another friend with 3 planets in the 10th are far more success > > > > oriented. And > > > > > both have raja yogas in the 10th so that success has in fact > > beein > > > > achieved. > > > > > > > > > > This person actually does not like attention. He does not > > believe in > > > > > politics and has never voted in his life. He does not want > > power, > > > > has turned > > > > > down management positions to continue doing what he does. He > > does > > > > not belong > > > > > to any clubs or organizations. The only thing he absolutely > > loves > > > > is travel > > > > > and foreign countries. Once he spent 10 years with his birthday > > > > every year > > > > > in a different country. Measured by what he wants he is very > > > > successful. He > > > > > has never had financial pressures even when he was not being > > paid. > > > > I think > > > > > this is because Jupiter is actually kept under check by the > > aspect > > > > of > > > > > saturn, which curbs any excessive ambition that the strong > > jupiter > > > > could > > > > > have generated. This is a person who does not get into excessive > > > > debt, who > > > > > spends half of what he can actually afford, had no need for > > > > recognition for > > > > > anything other than writing good software. And that only by the > > > > users of > > > > > that software. > > > > > > > > > > Another person I know with 3 exalted planets and jupiter in own > > > > sign works > > > > > from home. Does not want to be famous (sun exalted in 4th!), > > just > > > > wants to > > > > > work from home and spend time with his family etc. He actually > > does > > > > very > > > > > well financially from this work. > > > > > > > > > > Success and fame are two different things. Success is achieving > > > > what you > > > > > want. Fame is being well known. If the 10th has a lot of energy > > > > > concentration then the two can come together. Look at Einstein > > and > > > > the > > > > > neecha bhanga in the 10th house. The 9th and 10th are in > > exchange, > > > > venus is > > > > > exalted in the 10th and lagna lord neecha bhanga in the 10th. > > Now > > > > that to me > > > > > would indicate fame much more. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:13 AM > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > My point regarding ashtakavarga was simple. See just think > > about > > > > it, > > > > > > if a chart has four exalted planets and two exalted planets > > > > > > vargottama , he must achieve great heights and be very > > popular as > > > > the > > > > > > lagna lord is in simhasanamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus the ashtakavarga did not fail as it showed that despite > > the > > > > > > great yogas and the great combinations the person is not very > > > > famous. > > > > > > in the other case there are really not so favourable > > > > combinations so > > > > > > ashtakavarga doesnot make much of a difference.the chart of > > > > > > postmaster, moon has no planets besides it. and there are so > > many > > > > > > afflictions in the chart. so ashtakavarga doesnot make a huge > > > > > > difference right. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are spot on about the relationship with the father.And > > yes, > > > > he > > > > > > tends to > > > > > > > challenge authority where he thinks it is mistaken. But > > people > > > > tend > > > > > > to > > > > > > > respect him for it as he does not really do so for egoistic > > > > reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither does he have many enemies or opposition. I would > > say he > > > > has > > > > > > always > > > > > > > had a pretty smooth sailing life without a great deal of > > effort > > > > on > > > > > > his part. > > > > > > > I think the strong venus in the 6th prevents illnesses and > > > > enemies. > > > > > > I think > > > > > > > because both the grahas associated with the 6th are > > benefics. > > > > > > However the > > > > > > > association with the 6th make him a VERY hard worker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter dasa is currently running and gave him the > > opportunity > > > > to > > > > > > move to a > > > > > > > new country and settle there - a second migration. It gave > > him > > > > > > property > > > > > > > overseas (aspect on 4th house?). But it also gave some > > problems > > > > at > > > > > > the work > > > > > > > place as his company had serious problems for a while and > > could > > > > not > > > > > > meet its > > > > > > > financial obligations. This happened during Jupiter- Venus, > > where > > > > > > you would > > > > > > > expect the 6th house effects to peak. Basically he had to > > keep > > > > > > working very > > > > > > > hard for no pay for a year or so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa was very successful for him. During that time he > > > > > > travelled a lot > > > > > > > and also was considered the top professional in his company. > > > > But he > > > > > > has > > > > > > > always had a good reputation at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding ashtakavarga - I would say he is far more > > successful > > > > than > > > > > > I am in > > > > > > > his profession (we both work in computers) and I have 30 > > points > > > > in > > > > > > my lagna > > > > > > > and 43 points in my 10th house. My 10th ruler is in the 12th > > > > > > combust and his > > > > > > > is in the 4th with digbala, with dispositor also exalted in > > a > > > > > > kendra, > > > > > > > aspected by a strong Jupiter from the 10th. I think graha > > > > > > > positions/strengths and yogas give more accurate results. My > > > > > > brother who has > > > > > > > had a brilliant career history has 24 in lagna and 32 in the > > > > 10th. > > > > > > But he > > > > > > > has about 4 grahas in his 10th forming raja yogas etc with > > all > > > > the > > > > > > right > > > > > > > dasas coming at the right age. And if you check chartx.jhd I > > > > sent > > > > > > earlier > > > > > > > (Taurus lagna) you find 42 points in the 10th in > > ashtakavarga! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 3:39 AM > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when i looked at this chart, i said oh my god!!!. SO many > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was the first look, now the depth, despite the fact > > that > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > are so many exalted planets, there are some weak points > > too. > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > is vargottama, jupiter is enemy for this lagna thus his > > > > strength > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > only strengthening his enemies. added to it is the fact > > that > > > > > > venus is > > > > > > > > also vargottama and his dispositor jupiter is exalted!!. > > It is > > > > > > not my > > > > > > > > prerogative to find faults but yes there are some > > > > difficulties for > > > > > > > > the native. He would invite enmeies and also has good > > amount > > > > of > > > > > > > > opposition in his life. But 6th house is a great upachaya > > > > sthana > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > thus the person will rise with will and determination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked the ashtakavarga for both rasi and dasamsa. > > > > > > > > the figures are 29-1st house, 29-10th house in rasi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27 -1st house and 31 for 10th house in dasamsa chart. thus > > > > this > > > > > > > > person is not so SUCCESSFUL, as he would have liked to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The strong opposition of sun and saturn in his chart shows > > > > that he > > > > > > > > doesnot like authority, may have despised father or fought > > > > with > > > > > > boss > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and saturn are not well placed in navamsa there is a > > > > > > technique > > > > > > > > that i use to ascertain the real strength of planets and > > on > > > > this > > > > > > > > count saturn fares poorly. Added to it is rahu, he is > > > > debilitated > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > rasi and aspects 9th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good chart on initial look but not so extraordiary when > > going > > > > > > deep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not done Arudha analysis because there are many > > > > experts in > > > > > > > > this list who can do much better than me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is 4:46 pm on 13th May 1955 170E30 45S53 +12:00 GMT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attached file was a jhd file which can be opened > > with > > > > JHL - > > > > > > > > this was > > > > > > > > > done before Narasimha released his new version. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You shouldn't belittle your brain so much you know, it > > > > seems to > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > well! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 11:08 AM > > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could you be more clear with the details, may be time, > > > > place > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > of birth. the downloaded data file is showing some > > strange > > > > > > numbers > > > > > > > > > > which are confusing my little brain. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Partha, If you knew the person, then what is the use of the chart? Consider it a blind read and judge whether this person should be famous on the basis of the chart. Regards, Nimmi - "partvinu5" <partvinu5 <vedic astrology> Saturday, March 02, 2002 1:32 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Fame: AK-dear nimmi > > dear Nimmi > > Who is this person. i have not heard of the name. > > regards > partha > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > > Dear Partha, > > > > How do you judge the fame of this person? > > > > Regards, > > > > Nimmi > > - > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > <vedic astrology> > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:49 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Fame: AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > i take 5th house, panchamsa, moon and jupiter for fame. 10th is > karma > > > and professsion place, not necessarily fame. A5 shows success as > > > percieved by this world and thus fame. > > > > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > Isn't fame associated with the 10th house? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > - > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:47 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > your last post was very interesting. I do agree that fame and > > > career > > > > > success are two different things. SOme have fame as well as > career > > > > > sucess. Some get fame due to thier social activities, due to > > > > > philantrhphy etc. > > > > > > > > > > That was not the point. Mahatam Gandhi had moon and rahu in > 10th > > > > > house, Shri KN rao has jupiter in 10th exalted for libra > lagna, is > > > > > not he famous in what he chose as his karma. > > > > > > > > > > 10th can be a very specific profession or karma depending > upon the > > > > > planetary alignments. and it is very well given in shastras > that > > > > > lagna lord in simhasanamsa -provided it is not combust and > > > > > debilitated in vargas does give strong raja yoga. > > > > > > > > > > Thus despite the best of placements we can explain why so and > so > > > is > > > > > not so famous. ANd i have found that after analysing planetary > > > > > placements if i use ashtakavarga analysis i can know how > much?? a > > > > > person can achieve. it has worked for me. there might be > instances > > > > > where there are people who may not give importance to > > > ashtakavarga. > > > > > > > > > > Strong bindus in ashtakavarga complement the raja yogas > present in > > > > > the chart and not the other way round. Shri vajpayee has > strong > > > > > dasamsa chart and added to it is the fact that there are > > > favourable > > > > > bindus in ashtakavarga chart for dasamasa varga. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > <106350.3660@c...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you expect fame of that order just based on planetary > > > > > positions? > > > > > > There must be a very large number of people born around that > > > time > > > > > who also > > > > > > have the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong lagna lord gives good physical health and > resilience. > > > It > > > > > also gives > > > > > > a strong sense of individuality. This person looks vastly > > > younger > > > > > than his > > > > > > age, is almost always happy and never bored. He actually has > > > > > everything he > > > > > > wants. With exalted saturn in the ascendant, he actually > does > > > not > > > > > need very > > > > > > much. He dresses in the most plain manner, drives > unremarkable > > > > > cars, does > > > > > > not live in an ostentatious house (but has multiple > properties). > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you need a lot of concentration on 10th to want to > be > > > > > famous. This > > > > > > chart is too spread around. My brother with 4 planets in the > > > 10th > > > > > and > > > > > > another friend with 3 planets in the 10th are far more > success > > > > > oriented. And > > > > > > both have raja yogas in the 10th so that success has in fact > > > beein > > > > > achieved. > > > > > > > > > > > > This person actually does not like attention. He does not > > > believe in > > > > > > politics and has never voted in his life. He does not want > > > power, > > > > > has turned > > > > > > down management positions to continue doing what he does. He > > > does > > > > > not belong > > > > > > to any clubs or organizations. The only thing he absolutely > > > loves > > > > > is travel > > > > > > and foreign countries. Once he spent 10 years with his > birthday > > > > > every year > > > > > > in a different country. Measured by what he wants he is very > > > > > successful. He > > > > > > has never had financial pressures even when he was not being > > > paid. > > > > > I think > > > > > > this is because Jupiter is actually kept under check by the > > > aspect > > > > > of > > > > > > saturn, which curbs any excessive ambition that the strong > > > jupiter > > > > > could > > > > > > have generated. This is a person who does not get into > excessive > > > > > debt, who > > > > > > spends half of what he can actually afford, had no need for > > > > > recognition for > > > > > > anything other than writing good software. And that only by > the > > > > > users of > > > > > > that software. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another person I know with 3 exalted planets and jupiter in > own > > > > > sign works > > > > > > from home. Does not want to be famous (sun exalted in 4th!), > > > just > > > > > wants to > > > > > > work from home and spend time with his family etc. He > actually > > > does > > > > > very > > > > > > well financially from this work. > > > > > > > > > > > > Success and fame are two different things. Success is > achieving > > > > > what you > > > > > > want. Fame is being well known. If the 10th has a lot of > energy > > > > > > concentration then the two can come together. Look at > Einstein > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > neecha bhanga in the 10th house. The 9th and 10th are in > > > exchange, > > > > > venus is > > > > > > exalted in the 10th and lagna lord neecha bhanga in the > 10th. > > > Now > > > > > that to me > > > > > > would indicate fame much more. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:13 AM > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point regarding ashtakavarga was simple. See just think > > > about > > > > > it, > > > > > > > if a chart has four exalted planets and two exalted > planets > > > > > > > vargottama , he must achieve great heights and be very > > > popular as > > > > > the > > > > > > > lagna lord is in simhasanamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus the ashtakavarga did not fail as it showed that > despite > > > the > > > > > > > great yogas and the great combinations the person is not > very > > > > > famous. > > > > > > > in the other case there are really not so favourable > > > > > combinations so > > > > > > > ashtakavarga doesnot make much of a difference.the chart > of > > > > > > > postmaster, moon has no planets besides it. and there are > so > > > many > > > > > > > afflictions in the chart. so ashtakavarga doesnot make a > huge > > > > > > > difference right. > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are spot on about the relationship with the > father.And > > > yes, > > > > > he > > > > > > > tends to > > > > > > > > challenge authority where he thinks it is mistaken. But > > > people > > > > > tend > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > respect him for it as he does not really do so for > egoistic > > > > > reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither does he have many enemies or opposition. I would > > > say he > > > > > has > > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > had a pretty smooth sailing life without a great deal of > > > effort > > > > > on > > > > > > > his part. > > > > > > > > I think the strong venus in the 6th prevents illnesses > and > > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > I think > > > > > > > > because both the grahas associated with the 6th are > > > benefics. > > > > > > > However the > > > > > > > > association with the 6th make him a VERY hard worker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter dasa is currently running and gave him the > > > opportunity > > > > > to > > > > > > > move to a > > > > > > > > new country and settle there - a second migration. It > gave > > > him > > > > > > > property > > > > > > > > overseas (aspect on 4th house?). But it also gave some > > > problems > > > > > at > > > > > > > the work > > > > > > > > place as his company had serious problems for a while > and > > > could > > > > > not > > > > > > > meet its > > > > > > > > financial obligations. This happened during Jupiter- > Venus, > > > where > > > > > > > you would > > > > > > > > expect the 6th house effects to peak. Basically he had > to > > > keep > > > > > > > working very > > > > > > > > hard for no pay for a year or so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa was very successful for him. During that time > he > > > > > > > travelled a lot > > > > > > > > and also was considered the top professional in his > company. > > > > > But he > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > always had a good reputation at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding ashtakavarga - I would say he is far more > > > successful > > > > > than > > > > > > > I am in > > > > > > > > his profession (we both work in computers) and I have 30 > > > points > > > > > in > > > > > > > my lagna > > > > > > > > and 43 points in my 10th house. My 10th ruler is in the > 12th > > > > > > > combust and his > > > > > > > > is in the 4th with digbala, with dispositor also > exalted in > > > a > > > > > > > kendra, > > > > > > > > aspected by a strong Jupiter from the 10th. I think > graha > > > > > > > > positions/strengths and yogas give more accurate > results. My > > > > > > > brother who has > > > > > > > > had a brilliant career history has 24 in lagna and 32 > in the > > > > > 10th. > > > > > > > But he > > > > > > > > has about 4 grahas in his 10th forming raja yogas etc > with > > > all > > > > > the > > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > dasas coming at the right age. And if you check > chartx.jhd I > > > > > sent > > > > > > > earlier > > > > > > > > (Taurus lagna) you find 42 points in the 10th in > > > ashtakavarga! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 3:39 AM > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when i looked at this chart, i said oh my god!!!. SO > many > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was the first look, now the depth, despite the > fact > > > that > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > are so many exalted planets, there are some weak > points > > > too. > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > is vargottama, jupiter is enemy for this lagna thus > his > > > > > strength > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > only strengthening his enemies. added to it is the > fact > > > that > > > > > > > venus is > > > > > > > > > also vargottama and his dispositor jupiter is > exalted!!. > > > It is > > > > > > > not my > > > > > > > > > prerogative to find faults but yes there are some > > > > > difficulties for > > > > > > > > > the native. He would invite enmeies and also has good > > > amount > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > opposition in his life. But 6th house is a great > upachaya > > > > > sthana > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > thus the person will rise with will and determination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked the ashtakavarga for both rasi and dasamsa. > > > > > > > > > the figures are 29-1st house, 29-10th house in rasi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27 -1st house and 31 for 10th house in dasamsa chart. > thus > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > person is not so SUCCESSFUL, as he would have liked > to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The strong opposition of sun and saturn in his chart > shows > > > > > that he > > > > > > > > > doesnot like authority, may have despised father or > fought > > > > > with > > > > > > > boss > > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and saturn are not well placed in navamsa there > is a > > > > > > > technique > > > > > > > > > that i use to ascertain the real strength of planets > and > > > on > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > count saturn fares poorly. Added to it is rahu, he is > > > > > debilitated > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > rasi and aspects 9th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good chart on initial look but not so extraordiary > when > > > going > > > > > > > deep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not done Arudha analysis because there are many > > > > > experts in > > > > > > > > > this list who can do much better than me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > > > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is 4:46 pm on 13th May 1955 170E30 45S53 +12:00 > GMT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attached file was a jhd file which can be opened > > > with > > > > > JHL - > > > > > > > > > this was > > > > > > > > > > done before Narasimha released his new version. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You shouldn't belittle your brain so much you know, > it > > > > > seems to > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > > well! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 11:08 AM > > > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could you be more clear with the details, may be > time, > > > > > place > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > of birth. the downloaded data file is showing some > > > strange > > > > > > > numbers > > > > > > > > > > > which are confusing my little brain. > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 dear Nimmi waiting in the wings ah. Pouncing like a tigress and making that fine verbal volley of the classical ping pong. Okay i will accept the challenge, i need challenges haha. scorpio rises with lagna lord mars in pisces-a soft and intellectual sign. But there is a picnic in pisces the ultra emotional sign and the planets involved are moon, mars, sun and Rahu. Moon so close to mars!!!, must be suffering from some heavy tensions or pressure. mentally very emotional. rahu also lurking nearby suggesting paranormal feelings, somwhat psychic. rahu is co-lord of aquarius the fourht house and is in fifth. Jupiter exalted and aspecting all these four fellows might control them but to what extent?? only jupiter knows. Venus in 7th house, excessively passionate, phlegmatic dispostion, Steamy scorpions burst when provoked. The highly unpredictable scorpions are ultra sensitive, dont know their moods!!##@@ Mercury is vargottama, and is strong in navamsa chart. hey my guess is is that this person would earn name and fame if at all then in media, communications, writing, journalism, psychologist, paranormal research, psychic etc. A5 is in lagna suggesting some fame for the person. regards partha vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > Partha, > > If you knew the person, then what is the use of the chart? Consider it a > blind read and judge whether this person should be famous on the basis of > the chart. > > Regards, > > Nimmi > > - > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > <vedic astrology> > Saturday, March 02, 2002 1:32 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Fame: AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > Who is this person. i have not heard of the name. > > > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > How do you judge the fame of this person? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Nimmi > > > - > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > <vedic astrology> > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:49 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Fame: AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > i take 5th house, panchamsa, moon and jupiter for fame. 10th is > > karma > > > > and professsion place, not necessarily fame. A5 shows success as > > > > percieved by this world and thus fame. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > Isn't fame associated with the 10th house? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > - > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:47 AM > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > your last post was very interesting. I do agree that fame and > > > > career > > > > > > success are two different things. SOme have fame as well as > > career > > > > > > sucess. Some get fame due to thier social activities, due to > > > > > > philantrhphy etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > That was not the point. Mahatam Gandhi had moon and rahu in > > 10th > > > > > > house, Shri KN rao has jupiter in 10th exalted for libra > > lagna, is > > > > > > not he famous in what he chose as his karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th can be a very specific profession or karma depending > > upon the > > > > > > planetary alignments. and it is very well given in shastras > > that > > > > > > lagna lord in simhasanamsa -provided it is not combust and > > > > > > debilitated in vargas does give strong raja yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus despite the best of placements we can explain why so and > > so > > > > is > > > > > > not so famous. ANd i have found that after analysing planetary > > > > > > placements if i use ashtakavarga analysis i can know how > > much?? a > > > > > > person can achieve. it has worked for me. there might be > > instances > > > > > > where there are people who may not give importance to > > > > ashtakavarga. > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong bindus in ashtakavarga complement the raja yogas > > present in > > > > > > the chart and not the other way round. Shri vajpayee has > > strong > > > > > > dasamsa chart and added to it is the fact that there are > > > > favourable > > > > > > bindus in ashtakavarga chart for dasamasa varga. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you expect fame of that order just based on planetary > > > > > > positions? > > > > > > > There must be a very large number of people born around that > > > > time > > > > > > who also > > > > > > > have the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong lagna lord gives good physical health and > > resilience. > > > > It > > > > > > also gives > > > > > > > a strong sense of individuality. This person looks vastly > > > > younger > > > > > > than his > > > > > > > age, is almost always happy and never bored. He actually has > > > > > > everything he > > > > > > > wants. With exalted saturn in the ascendant, he actually > > does > > > > not > > > > > > need very > > > > > > > much. He dresses in the most plain manner, drives > > unremarkable > > > > > > cars, does > > > > > > > not live in an ostentatious house (but has multiple > > properties). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you need a lot of concentration on 10th to want to > > be > > > > > > famous. This > > > > > > > chart is too spread around. My brother with 4 planets in the > > > > 10th > > > > > > and > > > > > > > another friend with 3 planets in the 10th are far more > > success > > > > > > oriented. And > > > > > > > both have raja yogas in the 10th so that success has in fact > > > > beein > > > > > > achieved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person actually does not like attention. He does not > > > > believe in > > > > > > > politics and has never voted in his life. He does not want > > > > power, > > > > > > has turned > > > > > > > down management positions to continue doing what he does. He > > > > does > > > > > > not belong > > > > > > > to any clubs or organizations. The only thing he absolutely > > > > loves > > > > > > is travel > > > > > > > and foreign countries. Once he spent 10 years with his > > birthday > > > > > > every year > > > > > > > in a different country. Measured by what he wants he is very > > > > > > successful. He > > > > > > > has never had financial pressures even when he was not being > > > > paid. > > > > > > I think > > > > > > > this is because Jupiter is actually kept under check by the > > > > aspect > > > > > > of > > > > > > > saturn, which curbs any excessive ambition that the strong > > > > jupiter > > > > > > could > > > > > > > have generated. This is a person who does not get into > > excessive > > > > > > debt, who > > > > > > > spends half of what he can actually afford, had no need for > > > > > > recognition for > > > > > > > anything other than writing good software. And that only by > > the > > > > > > users of > > > > > > > that software. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another person I know with 3 exalted planets and jupiter in > > own > > > > > > sign works > > > > > > > from home. Does not want to be famous (sun exalted in 4th!), > > > > just > > > > > > wants to > > > > > > > work from home and spend time with his family etc. He > > actually > > > > does > > > > > > very > > > > > > > well financially from this work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Success and fame are two different things. Success is > > achieving > > > > > > what you > > > > > > > want. Fame is being well known. If the 10th has a lot of > > energy > > > > > > > concentration then the two can come together. Look at > > Einstein > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > neecha bhanga in the 10th house. The 9th and 10th are in > > > > exchange, > > > > > > venus is > > > > > > > exalted in the 10th and lagna lord neecha bhanga in the > > 10th. > > > > Now > > > > > > that to me > > > > > > > would indicate fame much more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:13 AM > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point regarding ashtakavarga was simple. See just think > > > > about > > > > > > it, > > > > > > > > if a chart has four exalted planets and two exalted > > planets > > > > > > > > vargottama , he must achieve great heights and be very > > > > popular as > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lagna lord is in simhasanamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus the ashtakavarga did not fail as it showed that > > despite > > > > the > > > > > > > > great yogas and the great combinations the person is not > > very > > > > > > famous. > > > > > > > > in the other case there are really not so favourable > > > > > > combinations so > > > > > > > > ashtakavarga doesnot make much of a difference.the chart > > of > > > > > > > > postmaster, moon has no planets besides it. and there are > > so > > > > many > > > > > > > > afflictions in the chart. so ashtakavarga doesnot make a > > huge > > > > > > > > difference right. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are spot on about the relationship with the > > father.And > > > > yes, > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > tends to > > > > > > > > > challenge authority where he thinks it is mistaken. But > > > > people > > > > > > tend > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > respect him for it as he does not really do so for > > egoistic > > > > > > reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither does he have many enemies or opposition. I would > > > > say he > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > > had a pretty smooth sailing life without a great deal of > > > > effort > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > his part. > > > > > > > > > I think the strong venus in the 6th prevents illnesses > > and > > > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > I think > > > > > > > > > because both the grahas associated with the 6th are > > > > benefics. > > > > > > > > However the > > > > > > > > > association with the 6th make him a VERY hard worker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter dasa is currently running and gave him the > > > > opportunity > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > move to a > > > > > > > > > new country and settle there - a second migration. It > > gave > > > > him > > > > > > > > property > > > > > > > > > overseas (aspect on 4th house?). But it also gave some > > > > problems > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the work > > > > > > > > > place as his company had serious problems for a while > > and > > > > could > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > meet its > > > > > > > > > financial obligations. This happened during Jupiter- > > Venus, > > > > where > > > > > > > > you would > > > > > > > > > expect the 6th house effects to peak. Basically he had > > to > > > > keep > > > > > > > > working very > > > > > > > > > hard for no pay for a year or so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa was very successful for him. During that time > > he > > > > > > > > travelled a lot > > > > > > > > > and also was considered the top professional in his > > company. > > > > > > But he > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > always had a good reputation at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding ashtakavarga - I would say he is far more > > > > successful > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > I am in > > > > > > > > > his profession (we both work in computers) and I have 30 > > > > points > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > my lagna > > > > > > > > > and 43 points in my 10th house. My 10th ruler is in the > > 12th > > > > > > > > combust and his > > > > > > > > > is in the 4th with digbala, with dispositor also > > exalted in > > > > a > > > > > > > > kendra, > > > > > > > > > aspected by a strong Jupiter from the 10th. I think > > graha > > > > > > > > > positions/strengths and yogas give more accurate > > results. My > > > > > > > > brother who has > > > > > > > > > had a brilliant career history has 24 in lagna and 32 > > in the > > > > > > 10th. > > > > > > > > But he > > > > > > > > > has about 4 grahas in his 10th forming raja yogas etc > > with > > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > > dasas coming at the right age. And if you check > > chartx.jhd I > > > > > > sent > > > > > > > > earlier > > > > > > > > > (Taurus lagna) you find 42 points in the 10th in > > > > ashtakavarga! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 3:39 AM > > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when i looked at this chart, i said oh my god!!!. SO > > many > > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was the first look, now the depth, despite the > > fact > > > > that > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > are so many exalted planets, there are some weak > > points > > > > too. > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > is vargottama, jupiter is enemy for this lagna thus > > his > > > > > > strength > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > only strengthening his enemies. added to it is the > > fact > > > > that > > > > > > > > venus is > > > > > > > > > > also vargottama and his dispositor jupiter is > > exalted!!. > > > > It is > > > > > > > > not my > > > > > > > > > > prerogative to find faults but yes there are some > > > > > > difficulties for > > > > > > > > > > the native. He would invite enmeies and also has good > > > > amount > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > opposition in his life. But 6th house is a great > > upachaya > > > > > > sthana > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > thus the person will rise with will and determination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked the ashtakavarga for both rasi and dasamsa. > > > > > > > > > > the figures are 29-1st house, 29-10th house in rasi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27 -1st house and 31 for 10th house in dasamsa chart. > > thus > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > person is not so SUCCESSFUL, as he would have liked > > to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The strong opposition of sun and saturn in his chart > > shows > > > > > > that he > > > > > > > > > > doesnot like authority, may have despised father or > > fought > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > boss > > > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and saturn are not well placed in navamsa there > > is a > > > > > > > > technique > > > > > > > > > > that i use to ascertain the real strength of planets > > and > > > > on > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > count saturn fares poorly. Added to it is rahu, he is > > > > > > debilitated > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > rasi and aspects 9th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good chart on initial look but not so extraordiary > > when > > > > going > > > > > > > > deep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not done Arudha analysis because there are many > > > > > > experts in > > > > > > > > > > this list who can do much better than me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > > > > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is 4:46 pm on 13th May 1955 170E30 45S53 +12:00 > > GMT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attached file was a jhd file which can be opened > > > > with > > > > > > JHL - > > > > > > > > > > this was > > > > > > > > > > > done before Narasimha released his new version. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You shouldn't belittle your brain so much you know, > > it > > > > > > seems to > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > > > well! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 11:08 AM > > > > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could you be more clear with the details, may be > > time, > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth. the downloaded data file is showing some > > > > strange > > > > > > > > numbers > > > > > > > > > > > > which are confusing my little brain. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Dear Partha, You are spot on about the personality of this person - who turns 70 this year and who is very well known to me. Unpredictable, passionate, fighter, psychic, emotional, soft - all your keywords apply with buttons on. Now of couse she has mellowed somewhat and leads a rather peaceful life, painting and gardening. But in fact this person is known only in a small circle of people. She was very successful within her framework and expectations. But definitely not famous in any sense of the word that you and I would consider. But then, she came to her 5th house dasas late in life. At the moment in the middle of moon dasa with mars and rahu to come. Who knows? The moment sun dasa started a lot of things started going very well for her. Partha, you should be doing readings for companies who need to find the right job for the right person. Best regards, Nimmi - "partvinu5" <partvinu5 <vedic astrology> Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:31 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Fame: AK-dear nimmi > > dear Nimmi > > waiting in the wings ah. Pouncing like a tigress and making that fine > verbal volley of the classical ping pong. > > Okay i will accept the challenge, i need challenges haha. > > scorpio rises with lagna lord mars in pisces-a soft and intellectual > sign. But there is a picnic in pisces the ultra emotional sign and > the planets involved are moon, mars, sun and Rahu. > > Moon so close to mars!!!, must be suffering from some heavy tensions > or pressure. mentally very emotional. rahu also lurking nearby > suggesting paranormal feelings, somwhat psychic. rahu is co-lord of > aquarius the fourht house and is in fifth. > > > Jupiter exalted and aspecting all these four fellows might control > them but to what extent?? only jupiter knows. > > Venus in 7th house, excessively passionate, phlegmatic dispostion, > > Steamy scorpions burst when provoked. The highly unpredictable > scorpions are ultra sensitive, dont know their moods!!##@@ > > Mercury is vargottama, and is strong in navamsa chart. > > hey my guess is is that this person would earn name and fame if at > all then in media, communications, writing, journalism, psychologist, > paranormal research, psychic etc. > > A5 is in lagna suggesting some fame for the person. > > regards > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > > Partha, > > > > If you knew the person, then what is the use of the chart? Consider > it a > > blind read and judge whether this person should be famous on the > basis of > > the chart. > > > > Regards, > > > > Nimmi > > > > - > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > <vedic astrology> > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 1:32 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Fame: AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > Who is this person. i have not heard of the name. > > > > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > How do you judge the fame of this person? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > - > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:49 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Fame: AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > i take 5th house, panchamsa, moon and jupiter for fame. 10th > is > > > karma > > > > > and professsion place, not necessarily fame. A5 shows success > as > > > > > percieved by this world and thus fame. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > <106350.3660@c...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't fame associated with the 10th house? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > - > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:47 AM > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your last post was very interesting. I do agree that fame > and > > > > > career > > > > > > > success are two different things. SOme have fame as well > as > > > career > > > > > > > sucess. Some get fame due to thier social activities, due > to > > > > > > > philantrhphy etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was not the point. Mahatam Gandhi had moon and rahu > in > > > 10th > > > > > > > house, Shri KN rao has jupiter in 10th exalted for libra > > > lagna, is > > > > > > > not he famous in what he chose as his karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th can be a very specific profession or karma depending > > > upon the > > > > > > > planetary alignments. and it is very well given in > shastras > > > that > > > > > > > lagna lord in simhasanamsa -provided it is not combust and > > > > > > > debilitated in vargas does give strong raja yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus despite the best of placements we can explain why so > and > > > so > > > > > is > > > > > > > not so famous. ANd i have found that after analysing > planetary > > > > > > > placements if i use ashtakavarga analysis i can know how > > > much?? a > > > > > > > person can achieve. it has worked for me. there might be > > > instances > > > > > > > where there are people who may not give importance to > > > > > ashtakavarga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong bindus in ashtakavarga complement the raja yogas > > > present in > > > > > > > the chart and not the other way round. Shri vajpayee has > > > strong > > > > > > > dasamsa chart and added to it is the fact that there are > > > > > favourable > > > > > > > bindus in ashtakavarga chart for dasamasa varga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you expect fame of that order just based on > planetary > > > > > > > positions? > > > > > > > > There must be a very large number of people born around > that > > > > > time > > > > > > > who also > > > > > > > > have the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong lagna lord gives good physical health and > > > resilience. > > > > > It > > > > > > > also gives > > > > > > > > a strong sense of individuality. This person looks > vastly > > > > > younger > > > > > > > than his > > > > > > > > age, is almost always happy and never bored. He > actually has > > > > > > > everything he > > > > > > > > wants. With exalted saturn in the ascendant, he actually > > > does > > > > > not > > > > > > > need very > > > > > > > > much. He dresses in the most plain manner, drives > > > unremarkable > > > > > > > cars, does > > > > > > > > not live in an ostentatious house (but has multiple > > > properties). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you need a lot of concentration on 10th to want > to > > > be > > > > > > > famous. This > > > > > > > > chart is too spread around. My brother with 4 planets > in the > > > > > 10th > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > another friend with 3 planets in the 10th are far more > > > success > > > > > > > oriented. And > > > > > > > > both have raja yogas in the 10th so that success has in > fact > > > > > beein > > > > > > > achieved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person actually does not like attention. He does > not > > > > > believe in > > > > > > > > politics and has never voted in his life. He does not > want > > > > > power, > > > > > > > has turned > > > > > > > > down management positions to continue doing what he > does. He > > > > > does > > > > > > > not belong > > > > > > > > to any clubs or organizations. The only thing he > absolutely > > > > > loves > > > > > > > is travel > > > > > > > > and foreign countries. Once he spent 10 years with his > > > birthday > > > > > > > every year > > > > > > > > in a different country. Measured by what he wants he is > very > > > > > > > successful. He > > > > > > > > has never had financial pressures even when he was not > being > > > > > paid. > > > > > > > I think > > > > > > > > this is because Jupiter is actually kept under check by > the > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > saturn, which curbs any excessive ambition that the > strong > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > have generated. This is a person who does not get into > > > excessive > > > > > > > debt, who > > > > > > > > spends half of what he can actually afford, had no need > for > > > > > > > recognition for > > > > > > > > anything other than writing good software. And that > only by > > > the > > > > > > > users of > > > > > > > > that software. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another person I know with 3 exalted planets and > jupiter in > > > own > > > > > > > sign works > > > > > > > > from home. Does not want to be famous (sun exalted in > 4th!), > > > > > just > > > > > > > wants to > > > > > > > > work from home and spend time with his family etc. He > > > actually > > > > > does > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > well financially from this work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Success and fame are two different things. Success is > > > achieving > > > > > > > what you > > > > > > > > want. Fame is being well known. If the 10th has a lot of > > > energy > > > > > > > > concentration then the two can come together. Look at > > > Einstein > > > > > and > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > neecha bhanga in the 10th house. The 9th and 10th are in > > > > > exchange, > > > > > > > venus is > > > > > > > > exalted in the 10th and lagna lord neecha bhanga in the > > > 10th. > > > > > Now > > > > > > > that to me > > > > > > > > would indicate fame much more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:13 AM > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point regarding ashtakavarga was simple. See just > think > > > > > about > > > > > > > it, > > > > > > > > > if a chart has four exalted planets and two exalted > > > planets > > > > > > > > > vargottama , he must achieve great heights and be very > > > > > popular as > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lagna lord is in simhasanamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus the ashtakavarga did not fail as it showed that > > > despite > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > great yogas and the great combinations the person is > not > > > very > > > > > > > famous. > > > > > > > > > in the other case there are really not so favourable > > > > > > > combinations so > > > > > > > > > ashtakavarga doesnot make much of a difference.the > chart > > > of > > > > > > > > > postmaster, moon has no planets besides it. and there > are > > > so > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > afflictions in the chart. so ashtakavarga doesnot > make a > > > huge > > > > > > > > > difference right. > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > > > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are spot on about the relationship with the > > > father.And > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > tends to > > > > > > > > > > challenge authority where he thinks it is mistaken. > But > > > > > people > > > > > > > tend > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > respect him for it as he does not really do so for > > > egoistic > > > > > > > reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither does he have many enemies or opposition. I > would > > > > > say he > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > > > had a pretty smooth sailing life without a great > deal of > > > > > effort > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > his part. > > > > > > > > > > I think the strong venus in the 6th prevents > illnesses > > > and > > > > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > I think > > > > > > > > > > because both the grahas associated with the 6th are > > > > > benefics. > > > > > > > > > However the > > > > > > > > > > association with the 6th make him a VERY hard > worker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter dasa is currently running and gave him the > > > > > opportunity > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > move to a > > > > > > > > > > new country and settle there - a second migration. > It > > > gave > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > property > > > > > > > > > > overseas (aspect on 4th house?). But it also gave > some > > > > > problems > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > the work > > > > > > > > > > place as his company had serious problems for a > while > > > and > > > > > could > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > meet its > > > > > > > > > > financial obligations. This happened during Jupiter- > > > Venus, > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > you would > > > > > > > > > > expect the 6th house effects to peak. Basically he > had > > > to > > > > > keep > > > > > > > > > working very > > > > > > > > > > hard for no pay for a year or so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa was very successful for him. During that > time > > > he > > > > > > > > > travelled a lot > > > > > > > > > > and also was considered the top professional in his > > > company. > > > > > > > But he > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > always had a good reputation at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding ashtakavarga - I would say he is far more > > > > > successful > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > I am in > > > > > > > > > > his profession (we both work in computers) and I > have 30 > > > > > points > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > my lagna > > > > > > > > > > and 43 points in my 10th house. My 10th ruler is in > the > > > 12th > > > > > > > > > combust and his > > > > > > > > > > is in the 4th with digbala, with dispositor also > > > exalted in > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > kendra, > > > > > > > > > > aspected by a strong Jupiter from the 10th. I think > > > graha > > > > > > > > > > positions/strengths and yogas give more accurate > > > results. My > > > > > > > > > brother who has > > > > > > > > > > had a brilliant career history has 24 in lagna and > 32 > > > in the > > > > > > > 10th. > > > > > > > > > But he > > > > > > > > > > has about 4 grahas in his 10th forming raja yogas > etc > > > with > > > > > all > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > > > dasas coming at the right age. And if you check > > > chartx.jhd I > > > > > > > sent > > > > > > > > > earlier > > > > > > > > > > (Taurus lagna) you find 42 points in the 10th in > > > > > ashtakavarga! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 3:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear > nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when i looked at this chart, i said oh my god!!!. > SO > > > many > > > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was the first look, now the depth, despite > the > > > fact > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > are so many exalted planets, there are some weak > > > points > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > is vargottama, jupiter is enemy for this lagna > thus > > > his > > > > > > > strength > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > only strengthening his enemies. added to it is the > > > fact > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > venus is > > > > > > > > > > > also vargottama and his dispositor jupiter is > > > exalted!!. > > > > > It is > > > > > > > > > not my > > > > > > > > > > > prerogative to find faults but yes there are some > > > > > > > difficulties for > > > > > > > > > > > the native. He would invite enmeies and also has > good > > > > > amount > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > opposition in his life. But 6th house is a great > > > upachaya > > > > > > > sthana > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > thus the person will rise with will and > determination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked the ashtakavarga for both rasi and > dasamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > the figures are 29-1st house, 29-10th house in > rasi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27 -1st house and 31 for 10th house in dasamsa > chart. > > > thus > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > person is not so SUCCESSFUL, as he would have > liked > > > to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The strong opposition of sun and saturn in his > chart > > > shows > > > > > > > that he > > > > > > > > > > > doesnot like authority, may have despised father > or > > > fought > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > boss > > > > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and saturn are not well placed in navamsa > there > > > is a > > > > > > > > > technique > > > > > > > > > > > that i use to ascertain the real strength of > planets > > > and > > > > > on > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > count saturn fares poorly. Added to it is rahu, > he is > > > > > > > debilitated > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > rasi and aspects 9th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good chart on initial look but not so extraordiary > > > when > > > > > going > > > > > > > > > deep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not done Arudha analysis because there are > many > > > > > > > experts in > > > > > > > > > > > this list who can do much better than me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > > > > > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is 4:46 pm on 13th May 1955 170E30 45S53 > +12:00 > > > GMT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attached file was a jhd file which can be > opened > > > > > with > > > > > > > JHL - > > > > > > > > > > > this was > > > > > > > > > > > > done before Narasimha released his new version. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You shouldn't belittle your brain so much you > know, > > > it > > > > > > > seems to > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > > > > well! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 11:08 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could you be more clear with the details, may > be > > > time, > > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth. the downloaded data file is showing > some > > > > > strange > > > > > > > > > numbers > > > > > > > > > > > > > which are confusing my little brain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > vedic- > > > > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on > us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > > > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 om gurave namah ------------------------ Dear Parta Jupiter in exaltation will not give fame just because of writing abilities. Knowledge will be present in great measure and this is happening as Jup is in Arudha Lagna. Finances should also be very strong. Look at the four planets in a trine carefully and note the weakness of the Moon. With best wishes Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - "partvinu5" <partvinu5 <vedic astrology> Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:01 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Fame: AK-dear nimmi dear Nimmi waiting in the wings ah. Pouncing like a tigress and making that fine verbal volley of the classical ping pong. Okay i will accept the challenge, i need challenges haha. scorpio rises with lagna lord mars in pisces-a soft and intellectual sign. But there is a picnic in pisces the ultra emotional sign and the planets involved are moon, mars, sun and Rahu. Moon so close to mars!!!, must be suffering from some heavy tensions or pressure. mentally very emotional. rahu also lurking nearby suggesting paranormal feelings, somwhat psychic. rahu is co-lord of aquarius the fourht house and is in fifth. Jupiter exalted and aspecting all these four fellows might control them but to what extent?? only jupiter knows. Venus in 7th house, excessively passionate, phlegmatic dispostion, Steamy scorpions burst when provoked. The highly unpredictable scorpions are ultra sensitive, dont know their moods!!##@@ Mercury is vargottama, and is strong in navamsa chart. hey my guess is is that this person would earn name and fame if at all then in media, communications, writing, journalism, psychologist, paranormal research, psychic etc. A5 is in lagna suggesting some fame for the person. regards partha vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > Partha, > > If you knew the person, then what is the use of the chart? Consider it a > blind read and judge whether this person should be famous on the basis of > the chart. > > Regards, > > Nimmi > > - > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > <vedic astrology> > Saturday, March 02, 2002 1:32 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Fame: AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > Who is this person. i have not heard of the name. > > > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > How do you judge the fame of this person? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Nimmi > > > - > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > <vedic astrology> > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:49 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Fame: AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > i take 5th house, panchamsa, moon and jupiter for fame. 10th is > > karma > > > > and professsion place, not necessarily fame. A5 shows success as > > > > percieved by this world and thus fame. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > Isn't fame associated with the 10th house? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > - > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:47 AM > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > your last post was very interesting. I do agree that fame and > > > > career > > > > > > success are two different things. SOme have fame as well as > > career > > > > > > sucess. Some get fame due to thier social activities, due to > > > > > > philantrhphy etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > That was not the point. Mahatam Gandhi had moon and rahu in > > 10th > > > > > > house, Shri KN rao has jupiter in 10th exalted for libra > > lagna, is > > > > > > not he famous in what he chose as his karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th can be a very specific profession or karma depending > > upon the > > > > > > planetary alignments. and it is very well given in shastras > > that > > > > > > lagna lord in simhasanamsa -provided it is not combust and > > > > > > debilitated in vargas does give strong raja yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus despite the best of placements we can explain why so and > > so > > > > is > > > > > > not so famous. ANd i have found that after analysing planetary > > > > > > placements if i use ashtakavarga analysis i can know how > > much?? a > > > > > > person can achieve. it has worked for me. there might be > > instances > > > > > > where there are people who may not give importance to > > > > ashtakavarga. > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong bindus in ashtakavarga complement the raja yogas > > present in > > > > > > the chart and not the other way round. Shri vajpayee has > > strong > > > > > > dasamsa chart and added to it is the fact that there are > > > > favourable > > > > > > bindus in ashtakavarga chart for dasamasa varga. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you expect fame of that order just based on planetary > > > > > > positions? > > > > > > > There must be a very large number of people born around that > > > > time > > > > > > who also > > > > > > > have the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A strong lagna lord gives good physical health and > > resilience. > > > > It > > > > > > also gives > > > > > > > a strong sense of individuality. This person looks vastly > > > > younger > > > > > > than his > > > > > > > age, is almost always happy and never bored. He actually has > > > > > > everything he > > > > > > > wants. With exalted saturn in the ascendant, he actually > > does > > > > not > > > > > > need very > > > > > > > much. He dresses in the most plain manner, drives > > unremarkable > > > > > > cars, does > > > > > > > not live in an ostentatious house (but has multiple > > properties). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you need a lot of concentration on 10th to want to > > be > > > > > > famous. This > > > > > > > chart is too spread around. My brother with 4 planets in the > > > > 10th > > > > > > and > > > > > > > another friend with 3 planets in the 10th are far more > > success > > > > > > oriented. And > > > > > > > both have raja yogas in the 10th so that success has in fact > > > > beein > > > > > > achieved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person actually does not like attention. He does not > > > > believe in > > > > > > > politics and has never voted in his life. He does not want > > > > power, > > > > > > has turned > > > > > > > down management positions to continue doing what he does. He > > > > does > > > > > > not belong > > > > > > > to any clubs or organizations. The only thing he absolutely > > > > loves > > > > > > is travel > > > > > > > and foreign countries. Once he spent 10 years with his > > birthday > > > > > > every year > > > > > > > in a different country. Measured by what he wants he is very > > > > > > successful. He > > > > > > > has never had financial pressures even when he was not being > > > > paid. > > > > > > I think > > > > > > > this is because Jupiter is actually kept under check by the > > > > aspect > > > > > > of > > > > > > > saturn, which curbs any excessive ambition that the strong > > > > jupiter > > > > > > could > > > > > > > have generated. This is a person who does not get into > > excessive > > > > > > debt, who > > > > > > > spends half of what he can actually afford, had no need for > > > > > > recognition for > > > > > > > anything other than writing good software. And that only by > > the > > > > > > users of > > > > > > > that software. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another person I know with 3 exalted planets and jupiter in > > own > > > > > > sign works > > > > > > > from home. Does not want to be famous (sun exalted in 4th!), > > > > just > > > > > > wants to > > > > > > > work from home and spend time with his family etc. He > > actually > > > > does > > > > > > very > > > > > > > well financially from this work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Success and fame are two different things. Success is > > achieving > > > > > > what you > > > > > > > want. Fame is being well known. If the 10th has a lot of > > energy > > > > > > > concentration then the two can come together. Look at > > Einstein > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > neecha bhanga in the 10th house. The 9th and 10th are in > > > > exchange, > > > > > > venus is > > > > > > > exalted in the 10th and lagna lord neecha bhanga in the > > 10th. > > > > Now > > > > > > that to me > > > > > > > would indicate fame much more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:13 AM > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point regarding ashtakavarga was simple. See just think > > > > about > > > > > > it, > > > > > > > > if a chart has four exalted planets and two exalted > > planets > > > > > > > > vargottama , he must achieve great heights and be very > > > > popular as > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lagna lord is in simhasanamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus the ashtakavarga did not fail as it showed that > > despite > > > > the > > > > > > > > great yogas and the great combinations the person is not > > very > > > > > > famous. > > > > > > > > in the other case there are really not so favourable > > > > > > combinations so > > > > > > > > ashtakavarga doesnot make much of a difference.the chart > > of > > > > > > > > postmaster, moon has no planets besides it. and there are > > so > > > > many > > > > > > > > afflictions in the chart. so ashtakavarga doesnot make a > > huge > > > > > > > > difference right. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are spot on about the relationship with the > > father.And > > > > yes, > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > tends to > > > > > > > > > challenge authority where he thinks it is mistaken. But > > > > people > > > > > > tend > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > respect him for it as he does not really do so for > > egoistic > > > > > > reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither does he have many enemies or opposition. I would > > > > say he > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > > had a pretty smooth sailing life without a great deal of > > > > effort > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > his part. > > > > > > > > > I think the strong venus in the 6th prevents illnesses > > and > > > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > I think > > > > > > > > > because both the grahas associated with the 6th are > > > > benefics. > > > > > > > > However the > > > > > > > > > association with the 6th make him a VERY hard worker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter dasa is currently running and gave him the > > > > opportunity > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > move to a > > > > > > > > > new country and settle there - a second migration. It > > gave > > > > him > > > > > > > > property > > > > > > > > > overseas (aspect on 4th house?). But it also gave some > > > > problems > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the work > > > > > > > > > place as his company had serious problems for a while > > and > > > > could > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > meet its > > > > > > > > > financial obligations. This happened during Jupiter- > > Venus, > > > > where > > > > > > > > you would > > > > > > > > > expect the 6th house effects to peak. Basically he had > > to > > > > keep > > > > > > > > working very > > > > > > > > > hard for no pay for a year or so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa was very successful for him. During that time > > he > > > > > > > > travelled a lot > > > > > > > > > and also was considered the top professional in his > > company. > > > > > > But he > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > always had a good reputation at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding ashtakavarga - I would say he is far more > > > > successful > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > I am in > > > > > > > > > his profession (we both work in computers) and I have 30 > > > > points > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > my lagna > > > > > > > > > and 43 points in my 10th house. My 10th ruler is in the > > 12th > > > > > > > > combust and his > > > > > > > > > is in the 4th with digbala, with dispositor also > > exalted in > > > > a > > > > > > > > kendra, > > > > > > > > > aspected by a strong Jupiter from the 10th. I think > > graha > > > > > > > > > positions/strengths and yogas give more accurate > > results. My > > > > > > > > brother who has > > > > > > > > > had a brilliant career history has 24 in lagna and 32 > > in the > > > > > > 10th. > > > > > > > > But he > > > > > > > > > has about 4 grahas in his 10th forming raja yogas etc > > with > > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > > dasas coming at the right age. And if you check > > chartx.jhd I > > > > > > sent > > > > > > > > earlier > > > > > > > > > (Taurus lagna) you find 42 points in the 10th in > > > > ashtakavarga! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 02, 2002 3:39 AM > > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK-dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when i looked at this chart, i said oh my god!!!. SO > > many > > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was the first look, now the depth, despite the > > fact > > > > that > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > are so many exalted planets, there are some weak > > points > > > > too. > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > is vargottama, jupiter is enemy for this lagna thus > > his > > > > > > strength > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > only strengthening his enemies. added to it is the > > fact > > > > that > > > > > > > > venus is > > > > > > > > > > also vargottama and his dispositor jupiter is > > exalted!!. > > > > It is > > > > > > > > not my > > > > > > > > > > prerogative to find faults but yes there are some > > > > > > difficulties for > > > > > > > > > > the native. He would invite enmeies and also has good > > > > amount > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > opposition in his life. But 6th house is a great > > upachaya > > > > > > sthana > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > thus the person will rise with will and determination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked the ashtakavarga for both rasi and dasamsa. > > > > > > > > > > the figures are 29-1st house, 29-10th house in rasi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27 -1st house and 31 for 10th house in dasamsa chart. > > thus > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > person is not so SUCCESSFUL, as he would have liked > > to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The strong opposition of sun and saturn in his chart > > shows > > > > > > that he > > > > > > > > > > doesnot like authority, may have despised father or > > fought > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > boss > > > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and saturn are not well placed in navamsa there > > is a > > > > > > > > technique > > > > > > > > > > that i use to ascertain the real strength of planets > > and > > > > on > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > count saturn fares poorly. Added to it is rahu, he is > > > > > > debilitated > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > rasi and aspects 9th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good chart on initial look but not so extraordiary > > when > > > > going > > > > > > > > deep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not done Arudha analysis because there are many > > > > > > experts in > > > > > > > > > > this list who can do much better than me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" > > > > > > <106350.3660@c...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is 4:46 pm on 13th May 1955 170E30 45S53 +12:00 > > GMT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attached file was a jhd file which can be opened > > > > with > > > > > > JHL - > > > > > > > > > > this was > > > > > > > > > > > done before Narasimha released his new version. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You shouldn't belittle your brain so much you know, > > it > > > > > > seems to > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > > > well! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 01, 2002 11:08 AM > > > > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Very strong AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear nimmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could you be more clear with the details, may be > > time, > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > > of birth. the downloaded data file is showing some > > > > strange > > > > > > > > numbers > > > > > > > > > > > > which are confusing my little brain. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- @e... > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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