To Zoran: Gainer/Loser in VRYVRY?-dear Nandan and list

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Dear Zoran

 

In this case, Ve was Lord of Lagna, so it is clear about transfer of

power to native, ie Ve gains at expense of Jp & Ma. But I am still not

clear about my original question, repeated below:

 

When 2 or 3 dusthan lords planets conjoin in a kendra/kon (type a=

sustainable version) or a dusthan (type b= unsustainable version) AND

there are NO other conjoining planets, & no association with AK/ Lord

of Lagna, which planet or house is the gainer at the expense of the

other(s).

 

My tentative attempt was: For type a, the non-dusthan lordship wd gain,

at the expense of the dusthan lordship of the same planets, whose

significations are enhanced. And/ or maybe, the significations of the

kendra/ kon house gets damaged. All this is Reverse for type b, ie the

BAD significations of the dusthan lordship is damaged (ie it is better

for the native) & the other non-dusthan lordship is damaged. This seems

logical if I use a good/bad planet in good/bad house logic. But the

reverse if I uyse a good/bad planet conjoining a good/bad planet logic.

So I am confused. What is the real answer to this riddle ?

 

Secondly, u mentioned about Ra, etc, which meant there was some actual

chart. I searched the archives for Dr Banerjee's mails (he only

mentioned Ta Lg with Jp/Ve/Ma in 9). Where did u get the rest of the

chart from? This is to understand yr comments about Ra as MK.

 

--- Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa wrote: > Dear Dilip,

>

> > I have been watching with great interest the discussion between

> you

> > on this baffling VRY.Partha, you have asked the details of the

> chart.

> > I am attaching it here. I have not yet been able to understand the

> > real meaning of the three dusthana lords in a kona. One more

> question

> > here, all the three planets also own three more houses, i.e. Lagna,

> > 7th house , and 11th house. What will happen to the indications of

> > these houses due to this occurence of VRY in 9th house?

> > ZORAN:

> > This is the real case of Viprita with transfer of power to LAGNA

> LORD

> > SHUKRA. So sudden shifts of fortune would result after or in the

> > course of some calamity... This may be expected around 25/26 Venus

> > natural years..Shukra is pitrukarak, while Rahu is matrukarak...

> The

> > family front is in trouble. The first 9 years of life are dangerous

> to

> > mother, simha being in trines to Matru rudra. Rahu as matrukarak is

> > supposed to guard mother during the first nine years, yet, mangal

> and

> > shukra dristi would surely bring some pain..

> > Best wishes,

> > Zoran

>

 

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Dear Nandan,

 

>

> When 2 or 3 dusthan lords planets conjoin in a kendra/kon (type a=

> sustainable version) or a dusthan (type b= unsustainable version) AND

> there are NO other conjoining planets, & no association with AK/ Lord

> of Lagna, which planet or house is the gainer at the expense of the

> other(s).

>

 

That is different.

When dusthan lords join in dustan that is "perfect" Veepreta. The person

gains

at the loss of others, or in the midst of troubles, or after the troubles the

person rises, depending on the chart.

When they conjoin in kendra, then the transfer must go to Lagna or Atmakarak,

If there is no

transfer, then the graha involved in Veepret Yoga gains, not person.. For

example

if transfer goes to Mercury or 11th lord then the friends get Veepreta. Or

another example.

If Shani is in dusthana as Yog karak Graha, in Yuti let's say Surya, the

person rises, but

troubles go to father..

 

>

> My tentative attempt was: For type a, the non-dusthan lordship wd gain,

> at the expense of the dusthan lordship of the same planets, whose

> significations are enhanced. And/ or maybe, the significations of the

> kendra/ kon house gets damaged. All this is Reverse for type b, ie the

> BAD significations of the dusthan lordship is damaged (ie it is better

> for the native) & the other non-dusthan lordship is damaged. This seems

> logical if I use a good/bad planet in good/bad house logic. But the

> reverse if I uyse a good/bad planet conjoining a good/bad planet logic.

> So I am confused. What is the real answer to this riddle ?

> Secondly, u mentioned about Ra, etc, which meant there was some actual

> chart. I searched the archives for Dr Banerjee's mails (he only

> mentioned Ta Lg with Jp/Ve/Ma in 9). Where did u get the rest of the

> chart from? This is to understand yr comments about Ra as MK.

>

 

There was a chart attached at Dilip mail. Try, education subject

Best wishes,

Zoran