Guest guest Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 dear visti ,answers for match the following e)retrograde c)navamsa d)lordship b)position f)benific a)avastha g)assistnats and helpers hope i matched correctly.if you can still elaborate(in case all answers are correct),i will be thankful to you.otherwise i will refer some more books and come back to you. regards ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Dear Ram, Om Sai Ram. I feel that the answers to: (a) is retro because the planet appears to be moving backwards towards the past. Retrogression has to do with issues of the past. (e) is avastha because the speed of the planet depends on whether he is in waking, dreaming or sleeping state. Also the degree of results given by a planet is dependent on his various types of avasthas. Regards, Saraswathy vedic astrology, "ved_ram" <ved_ram> wrote: > dear visti ,answers for match the following > > e)retrograde > c)navamsa d)lordship b)position f)benific a)avastha > g)assistnats and helpers > > hope i matched correctly.if you can still elaborate(in case all > answers are correct),i will be thankful to you.otherwise i will refer > some more books and come back to you. > regards > ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ----------------------------- Dear List, Here are the answers i had in mind. I should have mentioned that the type of Avastha i was thinking of, was Sayanadi Avasthas(related to activity). a) This person seems to be clinging to the past, trying to resolve an old issue, that he cannot get rid of. - Retrogade (being retrogade is also a state/avastha) b) He's over at a neighboors, and he's there all day trying to resolve this.. But he doesn't like his neighboors house.. His torture may affect his family. - Position (where he is, determines his house position). c) His wife and kids really don't like this situation as he's supposed to be out making money and repairing the cracks in the walls, so the family can survive with some dignity and happiness. - Lordship (The lords of a house, must support the house it rules. This guy must support his wife and kids, which reside in his house). d) But fact is, this man, will not budge until he's resolved this issue. Sometimes he just sits infront of the TV, doing nothing, yet the issue bothers him. - Sayanadhi Avastha (related to activity). e) As this man is a quite slow man (intellectually) his effort gives little results. - Navamsa/Dharmamsa (this will determine how easy his ailment will be removed). f) But he's a good man by nature. - Benefic (no matter a houses lordship, the planet lording it will determine the way the house is supported/protected). g) Preferably he was helped by someone with some higher intellect than him to resolve this. - Assistants/helpers. Now think hard on each of these lines, and you will begin to understand the effect of a grahas placement in any position. I didn't take up Navamsa position in the above. If the graha is placed in dusthana in Navamsa, then it carries some ill dharma with it in its Dasa. Best wishes, Visti. - vs_saras vedic astrology Monday, April 01, 2002 10:14 AM [vedic astrology] Re: kindly clarify -retro planets (puzzle)-to visti Dear Ram,Om Sai Ram.I feel that the answers to:(a) is retro because the planet appears to be moving backwards towards the past. Retrogression has to do with issues of the past.(e) is avastha because the speed of the planet depends on whether he is in waking, dreaming or sleeping state. Also the degree of results given by a planet is dependent on his various types of avasthas.Regards,Saraswathyvedic astrology, "ved_ram" <ved_ram> wrote:> dear visti ,answers for match the following> > e)retrograde> c)navamsa d)lordship b)position f)benific a)avastha> g)assistnats and helpers> > hope i matched correctly.if you can still elaborate(in case all > answers are correct),i will be thankful to you.otherwise i will refer> some more books and come back to you.> regards> ramArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2002 Report Share Posted April 3, 2002 Dear Visti, Om Sai Ram. I have tried to put the points you told and analyzed retrogression with respect to my chart. Please point out wherever I am making a mistake. I have only one retrograde planet --Jup. Jup is 2L & 5L. Placed in 5H, Pisces. Jup is retrograde. So Jup® is busy resolving a past issue, so it isn't concentrating on the present. Since this issue of past life isn't present in this life, the energy and time of Jup® is getting invested at a mental plane rather than on a real physical plane. This makes the native introspective and introverted, especially as Jup ® aspects the Asc. Jup® is positioned in its own house Pisces in 5H, so he is at home and comfortable but fears burdening his house with his troubles. His house, 5H is negatively getting affected much more than his other house, 2H due to his neglection, because of his proximity. So, in the real plane 5H and 2H matters will progress at a slow rate because of the inattention of their lord Jup, towards his duties. So, 5H and 2H matters will bring frustation and unhappiness to the native. There are no other planets other than Jup® in his house 2H and 5H. Jup® gives 5th aspect to Sat(PiK), 7th mutual aspect to Sun(PK) and 9/5 mutual aspect to Rahu(AK). Jup® himself is AmatyaKaraka. How would the retrogression of Jup effect Sat, Sun and Rahu? How quickly the issue of the past life gets resolved depends on the house he is positioned in(Fixed, dual or Moveable). Since Jup® is placed in a dual house, issue will get resolved but not very quickly. Also it depends on the avastha of the retro planet, Jup. In my case he has the following avasthas: (1)Baalaavastha -- reduces to 1/4 (2)Awakening -- full (3)Swasthavastha -- full (4)Garvithavastha/Mudhitavastha (not clear which one is more appropriate. Garvitha may not be correct as Jup is in own house and not in Mooltrikona or Exaltation. Mudhita may be correct as Jup is aspected by friendly planets Rahu and Sun) --favourable state (5)Netrapani -- Not a favourable state (Do you know the meaning of the word Netrapani?) While calculating, I am taking Revati as the 27th Nakshatra. I am not including Abhijit. Is it correct or should I take Revati as 28th one? (6)Drishti Chesta -- Reduces to 1/2 Since overall the avasthas are medium , past issue will get resolved but not very quickly. Here Jup itself will make medium effort to resolve the issue.Since Jup represents Amatyakaraka, Guru/Advisor of the native will make medium effort to resolve the issue on behalf of the native. When will the past issue get resolved? Jup is vargottamma and is placed in the Navamsa in Pisces in 4H. Since it is placed in a kendra in D-9, his issue may get resolved quickly in this life. But in D-9, since Jup is the 1L and 4L, he gets kendradipati Dosha and hence becomes evil and may cause delay. Since Jup is a benefic by nature, it will not harm the houses that it lords. As Jup® is aspected by Rahu(AK) and Sun(PK), they will act as helpers to Jup(Amatya karaka) in resolving this issue of the past.This implies that the native and the child of native will help resolve this issue. In what way will they help? Regards, Saraswathy vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > ----------------------------- > Dear List, > > Here are the answers i had in mind. I should have mentioned that the type of Avastha i was thinking of, was Sayanadi Avasthas(related to activity). > > a) This person seems to be clinging to the past, trying to resolve an old issue, that he cannot get rid of. > - Retrogade (being retrogade is also a state/avastha) > > b) He's over at a neighboors, and he's there all day trying to resolve this.. But he doesn't like his neighboors house.. His torture may affect his family. > - Position (where he is, determines his house position). > > c) His wife and kids really don't like this situation as he's supposed to be out making money and repairing the cracks in the walls, so the family can survive with some dignity and happiness. > - Lordship (The lords of a house, must support the house it rules. This guy must support his wife and kids, which reside in his house). > > d) But fact is, this man, will not budge until he's resolved this issue. Sometimes he just sits infront of the TV, doing nothing, yet the issue bothers him. > - Sayanadhi Avastha (related to activity). > > e) As this man is a quite slow man (intellectually) his effort gives little results. > - Navamsa/Dharmamsa (this will determine how easy his ailment will be removed). > > f) But he's a good man by nature. > - Benefic (no matter a houses lordship, the planet lording it will determine the way the house is supported/protected). > > g) Preferably he was helped by someone with some higher intellect than him to resolve this. > - Assistants/helpers. > > Now think hard on each of these lines, and you will begin to understand the effect of a grahas placement in any position. > > I didn't take up Navamsa position in the above. If the graha is placed in dusthana in Navamsa, then it carries some ill dharma with it in its Dasa. > > Best wishes, Visti. > - > vs_saras > vedic astrology > Monday, April 01, 2002 10:14 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: kindly clarify -retro planets (puzzle)-to visti > > > Dear Ram, > > Om Sai Ram. > > I feel that the answers to: > > (a) is retro because the planet appears to be moving backwards > towards the past. Retrogression has to do with issues of the past. > > (e) is avastha because the speed of the planet depends on whether he > is in waking, dreaming or sleeping state. Also the degree of results > given by a planet is dependent on his various types of avasthas. > > Regards, > Saraswathy > > > > vedic astrology, "ved_ram" <ved_ram> wrote: > > dear visti ,answers for match the following > > > > e)retrograde > > c)navamsa d)lordship b)position f)benific a)avastha > > g)assistnats and helpers > > > > hope i matched correctly.if you can still elaborate(in case all > > answers are correct),i will be thankful to you.otherwise i will > refer > > some more books and come back to you. > > regards > > ram > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ---------------- Dear Saraswathy, The Navamsa of the Graha will show how quickly the issue gets resolved, again depending on the sign being movable/fixed or Dual. If the Graha is Vargottama, then the results are unavoidable. Jupiter in 5th house and Retrogade in Pisces, could show a great blessing in the world of astrology, as well as giving the ability to see the past present and future. If Jupiter is also placed in an auspicious Shastyamsa, then the results will be definite. No comments on the Avasthas for now. How is Jupiter placed from Arudha Lagna? Will it give prosperity? As Jupiter is Amatya Karaka, we can expect some intense work in the field of astrology. Best wishes, Visti. - vs_saras vedic astrology Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:37 AM [vedic astrology] Re: kindly clarify -retro planets (puzzle)-to visti Dear Visti,Om Sai Ram.I have tried to put the points you told and analyzed retrogression with respect to my chart. Please point out wherever I am making a mistake.I have only one retrograde planet --Jup. Jup is 2L & 5L. Placed in 5H, Pisces.Jup is retrograde. So Jup® is busy resolving a past issue, so it isn't concentrating on the present. Since this issue of past life isn't present in this life, the energy and time of Jup® is getting invested at a mental plane rather than on a real physical plane. This makes the native introspective and introverted, especially as Jup® aspects the Asc.Jup® is positioned in its own house Pisces in 5H, so he is at home and comfortable but fears burdening his house with his troubles. His house, 5H is negatively getting affected much more than his other house, 2H due to his neglection, because of his proximity. So, in the real plane 5H and 2H matters will progress at a slow rate because of the inattention of their lord Jup, towards his duties. So, 5H and 2H matters will bring frustation and unhappiness to the native.There are no other planets other than Jup® in his house 2H and 5H. Jup® gives 5th aspect to Sat(PiK), 7th mutual aspect to Sun(PK) and 9/5 mutual aspect to Rahu(AK). Jup® himself is AmatyaKaraka. How would the retrogression of Jup effect Sat, Sun and Rahu?How quickly the issue of the past life gets resolved depends on the house he is positioned in(Fixed, dual or Moveable). Since Jup® is placed in a dual house, issue will get resolved but not very quickly.Also it depends on the avastha of the retro planet, Jup. In my case he has the following avasthas:(1)Baalaavastha -- reduces to 1/4(2)Awakening -- full(3)Swasthavastha -- full(4)Garvithavastha/Mudhitavastha (not clear which one is more appropriate. Garvitha may not be correct as Jup is in own house and not in Mooltrikona or Exaltation. Mudhita may be correct as Jup is aspected by friendly planets Rahu and Sun) --favourable state(5)Netrapani -- Not a favourable state (Do you know the meaning of the word Netrapani?) While calculating, I am taking Revati as the 27th Nakshatra. I am not including Abhijit. Is it correct or should I take Revati as 28th one?(6)Drishti Chesta -- Reduces to 1/2Since overall the avasthas are medium , past issue will get resolved but not very quickly. Here Jup itself will make medium effort to resolve the issue.Since Jup represents Amatyakaraka, Guru/Advisor of the native will make medium effort to resolve the issue on behalf of the native. When will the past issue get resolved?Jup is vargottamma and is placed in the Navamsa in Pisces in 4H. Since it is placed in a kendra in D-9, his issue may get resolved quickly in this life. But in D-9, since Jup is the 1L and 4L, he gets kendradipati Dosha and hence becomes evil and may cause delay.Since Jup is a benefic by nature, it will not harm the houses that it lords. As Jup® is aspected by Rahu(AK) and Sun(PK), they will act as helpers to Jup(Amatya karaka) in resolving this issue of the past.This implies that the native and the child of native will help resolve this issue. In what way will they help?Regards,Saraswathyvedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream> wrote:> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> -----------------------------> Dear List,> > Here are the answers i had in mind. I should have mentioned that the type of Avastha i was thinking of, was Sayanadi Avasthas(related to activity).> > a) This person seems to be clinging to the past, trying to resolve an old issue, that he cannot get rid of. > - Retrogade (being retrogade is also a state/avastha)> > b) He's over at a neighboors, and he's there all day trying to resolve this.. But he doesn't like his neighboors house.. His torture may affect his family.> - Position (where he is, determines his house position).> > c) His wife and kids really don't like this situation as he's supposed to be out making money and repairing the cracks in the walls, so the family can survive with some dignity and happiness.> - Lordship (The lords of a house, must support the house it rules. This guy must support his wife and kids, which reside in his house).> > d) But fact is, this man, will not budge until he's resolved this issue. Sometimes he just sits infront of the TV, doing nothing, yet the issue bothers him.> - Sayanadhi Avastha (related to activity).> > e) As this man is a quite slow man (intellectually) his effort gives little results. > - Navamsa/Dharmamsa (this will determine how easy his ailment will be removed).> > f) But he's a good man by nature.> - Benefic (no matter a houses lordship, the planet lording it will determine the way the house is supported/protected).> > g) Preferably he was helped by someone with some higher intellect than him to resolve this.> - Assistants/helpers.> > Now think hard on each of these lines, and you will begin to understand the effect of a grahas placement in any position.> > I didn't take up Navamsa position in the above. If the graha is placed in dusthana in Navamsa, then it carries some ill dharma with it in its Dasa.> > Best wishes, Visti.> - > vs_saras > vedic astrology > Monday, April 01, 2002 10:14 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: kindly clarify -retro planets (puzzle)-to visti> > > Dear Ram,> > Om Sai Ram.> > I feel that the answers to:> > (a) is retro because the planet appears to be moving backwards > towards the past. Retrogression has to do with issues of the past.> > (e) is avastha because the speed of the planet depends on whether he > is in waking, dreaming or sleeping state. Also the degree of results > given by a planet is dependent on his various types of avasthas.> > Regards,> Saraswathy> > > > --- In vedic astrology, "ved_ram" <ved_ram> wrote:> > dear visti ,answers for match the following> > > > e)retrograde> > c)navamsa d)lordship b)position f)benific a)avastha> > g)assistnats and helpers> > > > hope i matched correctly.if you can still elaborate(in case all > > answers are correct),i will be thankful to you.otherwise i will > refer> > some more books and come back to you.> > regards> > ram> > > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Terms of Service.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 Dear Visti, Om Sai Ram. Jupiter is placed in an auspicious Shastyamsa, in his mooltrikona sign, Sagi in the 2H with Rah(AK) with Rasi Drishti from Sat. Could you point out what this unresolved matter of the past is in my case? I am attaching my chart. Jup® is 8th from AL and you had told some one in powerful position will support me temporarily, in one of the previous mails. Retro planet causes delay due to its inattention to its duties, but why does it cause the support to become temporary? Could you please explain? Which positions from AL will indicate prosperity? kendras? Nice to hear I will be making good progress in astrology but it is going to take some time. Regards, Saraswathy vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > ---------------- > Dear Saraswathy, > The Navamsa of the Graha will show how quickly the issue gets resolved, again depending on the sign being movable/fixed or Dual. > If the Graha is Vargottama, then the results are unavoidable. > > Jupiter in 5th house and Retrogade in Pisces, could show a great blessing in the world of astrology, as well as giving the ability to see the past present and future. If Jupiter is also placed in an auspicious Shastyamsa, then the results will be definite. > > No comments on the Avasthas for now. > How is Jupiter placed from Arudha Lagna? Will it give prosperity? > As Jupiter is Amatya Karaka, we can expect some intense work in the field of astrology. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > - > vs_saras > vedic astrology > Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:37 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: kindly clarify -retro planets (puzzle)-to visti > > > Dear Visti, > > Om Sai Ram. > > I have tried to put the points you told and analyzed retrogression > with respect to my chart. Please point out wherever I am making a > mistake. > > I have only one retrograde planet --Jup. Jup is 2L & 5L. Placed in > 5H, Pisces. > > Jup is retrograde. So Jup® is busy resolving a past issue, so it > isn't concentrating on the present. Since this issue of past life > isn't present in this life, the energy and time of Jup® is getting > invested at a mental plane rather than on a real physical plane. > This makes the native introspective and introverted, especially as Jup > ® aspects the Asc. > > Jup® is positioned in its own house Pisces in 5H, so he is at home > and comfortable but fears burdening his house with his troubles. His > house, 5H is negatively getting affected much more than his other > house, 2H due to his neglection, because of his proximity. So, in the > real plane 5H and 2H matters will progress at a slow rate because of > the inattention of their lord Jup, towards his duties. > So, 5H and 2H matters will bring frustation and unhappiness to the > native. > > There are no other planets other than Jup® in his house 2H and 5H. > Jup® gives 5th aspect to Sat(PiK), 7th mutual aspect to Sun(PK) and > 9/5 mutual aspect to Rahu(AK). Jup® himself is AmatyaKaraka. > How would the retrogression of Jup effect Sat, Sun and Rahu? > > How quickly the issue of the past life gets resolved depends on the > house he is positioned in(Fixed, dual or Moveable). Since Jup® is > placed in a dual house, issue will get resolved but not very quickly. > Also it depends on the avastha of the retro planet, Jup. In my case > he has the following avasthas: > (1)Baalaavastha -- reduces to 1/4 > > (2)Awakening -- full > > (3)Swasthavastha -- full > > (4)Garvithavastha/Mudhitavastha (not clear which one is more > appropriate. Garvitha may not be correct as Jup is in own house and > not in Mooltrikona or Exaltation. Mudhita may be correct as Jup is > aspected by friendly planets Rahu and Sun) --favourable state > > (5)Netrapani -- Not a favourable state (Do you know the meaning of > the word Netrapani?) While calculating, I am taking Revati as the > 27th Nakshatra. I am not including Abhijit. Is it correct or should I > take Revati as 28th one? > > (6)Drishti Chesta -- Reduces to 1/2 > Since overall the avasthas are medium , past issue will get resolved > but not very quickly. Here Jup itself will make medium effort to > resolve the issue.Since Jup represents Amatyakaraka, Guru/Advisor of > the native will make medium effort to resolve the issue on behalf of > the native. > When will the past issue get resolved? > > Jup is vargottamma and is placed in the Navamsa in Pisces in 4H. > Since it is placed in a kendra in D-9, his issue may get resolved > quickly in this life. But in D-9, since Jup is the 1L and 4L, he gets > kendradipati Dosha and hence becomes evil and may cause delay. > > Since Jup is a benefic by nature, it will not harm the houses that it > lords. > > As Jup® is aspected by Rahu(AK) and Sun(PK), they will act as > helpers to Jup(Amatya karaka) in resolving this issue of the > past.This implies that the native and the child of native will help > resolve this issue. > In what way will they help? > > Regards, > Saraswathy > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream> > wrote: > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > ----------------------------- > > Dear List, > > > > Here are the answers i had in mind. I should have mentioned that > the type of Avastha i was thinking of, was Sayanadi Avasthas(related > to activity). > > > > a) This person seems to be clinging to the past, trying to resolve > an old issue, that he cannot get rid of. > > - Retrogade (being retrogade is also a state/avastha) > > > > b) He's over at a neighboors, and he's there all day trying to > resolve this.. But he doesn't like his neighboors house.. His torture > may affect his family. > > - Position (where he is, determines his house position). > > > > c) His wife and kids really don't like this situation as he's > supposed to be out making money and repairing the cracks in the > walls, so the family can survive with some dignity and happiness. > > - Lordship (The lords of a house, must support the house it rules. > This guy must support his wife and kids, which reside in his house). > > > > d) But fact is, this man, will not budge until he's resolved this > issue. Sometimes he just sits infront of the TV, doing nothing, yet > the issue bothers him. > > - Sayanadhi Avastha (related to activity). > > > > e) As this man is a quite slow man (intellectually) his effort > gives little results. > > - Navamsa/Dharmamsa (this will determine how easy his ailment will > be removed). > > > > f) But he's a good man by nature. > > - Benefic (no matter a houses lordship, the planet lording it will > determine the way the house is supported/protected). > > > > g) Preferably he was helped by someone with some higher intellect > than him to resolve this. > > - Assistants/helpers. > > > > Now think hard on each of these lines, and you will begin to > understand the effect of a grahas placement in any position. > > > > I didn't take up Navamsa position in the above. If the graha is > placed in dusthana in Navamsa, then it carries some ill dharma with > it in its Dasa. > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > - > > vs_saras > > vedic astrology > > Monday, April 01, 2002 10:14 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: kindly clarify -retro planets > (puzzle)-to visti > > > > > > Dear Ram, > > > > Om Sai Ram. > > > > I feel that the answers to: > > > > (a) is retro because the planet appears to be moving backwards > > towards the past. Retrogression has to do with issues of the past. > > > > (e) is avastha because the speed of the planet depends on whether > he > > is in waking, dreaming or sleeping state. Also the degree of > results > > given by a planet is dependent on his various types of avasthas. > > > > Regards, > > Saraswathy > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "ved_ram" <ved_ram> wrote: > > > dear visti ,answers for match the following > > > > > > e)retrograde > > > c)navamsa d)lordship b)position f)benific a)avastha > > > g)assistnats and helpers > > > > > > hope i matched correctly.if you can still elaborate(in case all > > > answers are correct),i will be thankful to you.otherwise i will > > refer > > > some more books and come back to you. > > > regards > > > ram > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... 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