Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 Dear Visti, Om Sai Ram. You say: "deb+retro planet if in a Kendra/Trikona(For malefic grahas), it will give blessings." I have Rahu(a malefic)in the 1H in Sc in Debilitation and by nature, Rahu is always retro. So, will the above rule apply here and Rahu give blessings instead of the opposite due to its debilitation? Kindly clarify. Regards, Saraswathy vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream> wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > --------------------- > Dear Ram, > > i read some articles, other than pundit sanjay rath and other eminent > astrologers, that a retrograde and debilitated planet is equivalent > to exalted planet.is it true?one of our members, and also my friend > partha insisted ,when i have given my friends chart for reading, that > retrograde jupiter since debiltated is equivalent to exalted planet. > but in my opinion and as per sanjay rahts articles infact a > debilitated and retrograde palnet can give more negative effects than > only debilitated planet-pl kindly commnet on this > > Visti: If the deb+retro planet is in a dusthana it will give blessings. > Fact is that a retrogade planet shows that theres something unresolved from > past birth. If the planet is also debilitated, the issue will result in some > very inauspicious happenings. > i.e. an unresolved issue in past birth will come to this birth and damage > you! However if this is in a Dusthana(for benefic grahas) or > Kendra/Trikona(For malefic grahas) its auspicious. > > next question is:there is a particular degree at which a planet > exalts or debilitates.suppose if the planet is in its > exaltation/debilitation sign but not at the degree at which it is > supposed to be exalted/debilitated then what can we say?i mean it is > exalted/debilitated completely or exalted/ debilitated partially. > > Visti: I've always been abit unsure about this. Meditate on it i guess. > The Rishi's must have given these degrees for a purpose. Maybe a Guru can > shed light on this. > > Best wishes, Visti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 Dear Visti, Does Mars in a kendra, own house and retrograde prove beneficial. Say for LEo Lagna, a retrograde mars in Scorpio. Is this good or bad. Sunil --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > ------------ > Dear Saraswathy, > There are two debilitation signs for Rahu; Sag and > Scorpio. > > Each have their special usage. One for Phalita and > the > other for Ayur. > > 1. Can anyone figure out which is which? > > 2. Does Ketu also get debilitated in Taurus, or only > in Gemini? Or rather the question is: Can Ketu be > debilitated for Ayur reasons? > > 3. Theres a stanza stating, that if the Nodes are > debilitated in Kendra, Srimantah Yoga occurs, which > gives alot og wealth. Which signs should they be > debilitated in? > > Rahu will give blessing of wealth in kendra(from > Lagna > or AL) but if in trines it will ruin the dharma. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- vs_saras <vs_saras wrote: > > Dear Visti, > > > > Om Sai Ram. > > > > You say: "deb+retro planet if in a > > Kendra/Trikona(For malefic > > grahas), it will give blessings." > > > > I have Rahu(a malefic)in the 1H in Sc in > > Debilitation and by nature, > > Rahu is always retro. > > So, will the above rule apply here and Rahu give > > blessings instead of > > the opposite due to its debilitation? Kindly > > clarify. > > > > Regards, > > Saraswathy > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > > <in_joy_i_scream> > > wrote: > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > > > > > --------------------- > > > Dear Ram, > > > > > > i read some articles, other than pundit sanjay > > rath and other > > eminent > > > astrologers, that a retrograde and debilitated > > planet is equivalent > > > to exalted planet.is it true?one of our members, > > and also my friend > > > partha insisted ,when i have given my friends > > chart for reading, > > that > > > retrograde jupiter since debiltated is > equivalent > > to exalted planet. > > > but in my opinion and as per sanjay rahts > articles > > infact a > > > debilitated and retrograde palnet can give more > > negative effects > > than > > > only debilitated planet-pl kindly commnet on > this > > > > > > Visti: If the deb+retro planet is in a > dusthana > > it will give > > blessings. > > > Fact is that a retrogade planet shows that > theres > > something > > unresolved from > > > past birth. If the planet is also debilitated, > the > > issue will > > result in some > > > very inauspicious happenings. > > > i.e. an unresolved issue in past birth will come > > to this birth and > > damage > > > you! However if this is in a Dusthana(for > benefic > > grahas) or > > > Kendra/Trikona(For malefic grahas) its > auspicious. > > > > > > next question is:there is a particular degree at > > which a planet > > > exalts or debilitates.suppose if the planet is > in > > its > > > exaltation/debilitation sign but not at the > degree > > at which it is > > > supposed to be exalted/debilitated then what can > > we say?i mean it is > > > exalted/debilitated completely or exalted/ > > debilitated partially. > > > > > > Visti: I've always been abit unsure about > this. > > Meditate on it i > > guess. > > > The Rishi's must have given these degrees for a > > purpose. Maybe a > > Guru can > > > shed light on this. > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more > http://games./ > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > > Your use of is subject to > > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Share Posted April 23, 2002 Dear Visti, My answers : 1. Sag -- phalita; Scorpio -- Ayur 2. Ketu is for moksha.......thus debiliated only in Gemini 3. Pls clarify Regards, ~Jaiho - "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream <vedic astrology> Tuesday, April 23, 2002 1:24 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: small doubt reg retrograde planet -- To Visti > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > ------------ > Dear Saraswathy, > There are two debilitation signs for Rahu; Sag and > Scorpio. > > Each have their special usage. One for Phalita and the > other for Ayur. > > 1. Can anyone figure out which is which? > > 2. Does Ketu also get debilitated in Taurus, or only > in Gemini? Or rather the question is: Can Ketu be > debilitated for Ayur reasons? > > 3. Theres a stanza stating, that if the Nodes are > debilitated in Kendra, Srimantah Yoga occurs, which > gives alot og wealth. Which signs should they be > debilitated in? > > Rahu will give blessing of wealth in kendra(from Lagna > or AL) but if in trines it will ruin the dharma. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- vs_saras <vs_saras wrote: > > Dear Visti, > > > > Om Sai Ram. > > > > You say: "deb+retro planet if in a > > Kendra/Trikona(For malefic > > grahas), it will give blessings." > > > > I have Rahu(a malefic)in the 1H in Sc in > > Debilitation and by nature, > > Rahu is always retro. > > So, will the above rule apply here and Rahu give > > blessings instead of > > the opposite due to its debilitation? Kindly > > clarify. > > > > Regards, > > Saraswathy > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > > <in_joy_i_scream> > > wrote: > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > > > > > --------------------- > > > Dear Ram, > > > > > > i read some articles, other than pundit sanjay > > rath and other > > eminent > > > astrologers, that a retrograde and debilitated > > planet is equivalent > > > to exalted planet.is it true?one of our members, > > and also my friend > > > partha insisted ,when i have given my friends > > chart for reading, > > that > > > retrograde jupiter since debiltated is equivalent > > to exalted planet. > > > but in my opinion and as per sanjay rahts articles > > infact a > > > debilitated and retrograde palnet can give more > > negative effects > > than > > > only debilitated planet-pl kindly commnet on this > > > > > > Visti: If the deb+retro planet is in a dusthana > > it will give > > blessings. > > > Fact is that a retrogade planet shows that theres > > something > > unresolved from > > > past birth. If the planet is also debilitated, the > > issue will > > result in some > > > very inauspicious happenings. > > > i.e. an unresolved issue in past birth will come > > to this birth and > > damage > > > you! However if this is in a Dusthana(for benefic > > grahas) or > > > Kendra/Trikona(For malefic grahas) its auspicious. > > > > > > next question is:there is a particular degree at > > which a planet > > > exalts or debilitates.suppose if the planet is in > > its > > > exaltation/debilitation sign but not at the degree > > at which it is > > > supposed to be exalted/debilitated then what can > > we say?i mean it is > > > exalted/debilitated completely or exalted/ > > debilitated partially. > > > > > > Visti: I've always been abit unsure about this. > > Meditate on it i > > guess. > > > The Rishi's must have given these degrees for a > > purpose. Maybe a > > Guru can > > > shed light on this. > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more > http://games./ > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Share Posted April 23, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ------------ Dear Sunil, Either of the Pancha-Graha(Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus or Saturn) in Kendra whilst in Own house, or exaltation, gives a MahaPurusha Yoga. If the same Graha is retrogade, then the Mahapurusha Yoga is ineffective. So in your case theres an ineffective Ruchak Mahapurusha Yoga. The person will aspire for results in Aries or Scorpio Narayana Dasa's but there will be none. Check the same from Arudha Lagna. Best wishes, Visti. --- Sunil Varma <divinity_sun wrote: > Dear Visti, > > Does Mars in a kendra, own house and retrograde > prove > beneficial. Say for LEo Lagna, a retrograde mars in > Scorpio. Is this good or bad. > > Sunil > > > > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > ------------ > > Dear Saraswathy, > > There are two debilitation signs for Rahu; Sag and > > Scorpio. > > > > Each have their special usage. One for Phalita and > > the > > other for Ayur. > > > > 1. Can anyone figure out which is which? > > > > 2. Does Ketu also get debilitated in Taurus, or > only > > in Gemini? Or rather the question is: Can Ketu be > > debilitated for Ayur reasons? > > > > 3. Theres a stanza stating, that if the Nodes are > > debilitated in Kendra, Srimantah Yoga occurs, > which > > gives alot og wealth. Which signs should they be > > debilitated in? > > > > Rahu will give blessing of wealth in kendra(from > > Lagna > > or AL) but if in trines it will ruin the dharma. > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > --- vs_saras <vs_saras wrote: > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > Om Sai Ram. > > > > > > You say: "deb+retro planet if in a > > > Kendra/Trikona(For malefic > > > grahas), it will give blessings." > > > > > > I have Rahu(a malefic)in the 1H in Sc in > > > Debilitation and by nature, > > > Rahu is always retro. > > > So, will the above rule apply here and Rahu give > > > blessings instead of > > > the opposite due to its debilitation? Kindly > > > clarify. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Saraswathy > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > > > <in_joy_i_scream> > > > wrote: > > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > > > > > > > > > --------------------- > > > > Dear Ram, > > > > > > > > i read some articles, other than pundit sanjay > > > rath and other > > > eminent > > > > astrologers, that a retrograde and debilitated > > > planet is equivalent > > > > to exalted planet.is it true?one of our > members, > > > and also my friend > > > > partha insisted ,when i have given my friends > > > chart for reading, > > > that > > > > retrograde jupiter since debiltated is > > equivalent > > > to exalted planet. > > > > but in my opinion and as per sanjay rahts > > articles > > > infact a > > > > debilitated and retrograde palnet can give > more > > > negative effects > > > than > > > > only debilitated planet-pl kindly commnet on > > this > > > > > > > > Visti: If the deb+retro planet is in a > > dusthana > > > it will give > > > blessings. > > > > Fact is that a retrogade planet shows that > > theres > > > something > > > unresolved from > > > > past birth. If the planet is also debilitated, > > the > > > issue will > > > result in some > > > > very inauspicious happenings. > > > > i.e. an unresolved issue in past birth will > come > > > to this birth and > > > damage > > > > you! However if this is in a Dusthana(for > > benefic > > > grahas) or > > > > Kendra/Trikona(For malefic grahas) its > > auspicious. > > > > > > > > next question is:there is a particular degree > at > > > which a planet > > > > exalts or debilitates.suppose if the planet is > > in > > > its > > > > exaltation/debilitation sign but not at the > > degree > > > at which it is > > > > supposed to be exalted/debilitated then what > can > > > we say?i mean it is > > > > exalted/debilitated completely or exalted/ > > > debilitated partially. > > > > > > > > Visti: I've always been abit unsure about > > this. > > > Meditate on it i > > > guess. > > > > The Rishi's must have given these degrees for > a > > > purpose. Maybe a > > > Guru can > > > > shed light on this. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and > more > > http://games./ > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu > > || > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my. > Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Share Posted April 23, 2002 Dear Visti, I suppose the same goes for me: ineffective yoga. Saturn retro in capricorn in the 10th. Double ineffective because afflicted by Ketu? Because it is 10H, my work aspirations will remain and (has remained) unfulfilled, right? Well, I am nearly 40 and it has remained unfulfilled so far. But it does it ever change? Sarbani Visti Larsen wrote: Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ------------ Dear Sunil, Either of the Pancha-Graha(Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus or Saturn) in Kendra whilst in Own house, or exaltation, gives a MahaPurusha Yoga. If the same Graha is retrogade, then the Mahapurusha Yoga is ineffective. So in your case theres an ineffective Ruchak Mahapurusha Yoga. The person will aspire for results in Aries or Scorpio Narayana Dasa's but there will be none. Check the same from Arudha Lagna. Best wishes, Visti. --- Sunil Varma <divinity_sun (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: > Dear Visti, > > Does Mars in a kendra, own house and retrograde > prove > beneficial. Say for LEo Lagna, a retrograde mars in > Scorpio. Is this good or bad. > > Sunil > > > > > --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream > wrote: > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > ------------ > > Dear Saraswathy, > > There are two debilitation signs for Rahu; Sag and > > Scorpio. > > > > Each have their special usage. One for Phalita and > > the > > other for Ayur. > > > > 1. Can anyone figure out which is which? > > > > 2. Does Ketu also get debilitated in Taurus, or > only > > in Gemini? Or rather the question is: Can Ketu be > > debilitated for Ayur reasons? > > > > 3. Theres a stanza stating, that if the Nodes are > > debilitated in Kendra, Srimantah Yoga occurs, > which > > gives alot og wealth. Which signs should they be > > debilitated in? > > > > Rahu will give blessing of wealth in kendra(from > > Lagna > > or AL) but if in trines it will ruin the dharma. > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > --- vs_saras <vs_saras > wrote: > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > Om Sai Ram. > > > > > > You say: "deb+retro planet if in a > > > Kendra/Trikona(For malefic > > > grahas), it will give blessings." > > > > > > I have Rahu(a malefic)in the 1H in Sc in > > > Debilitation and by nature, > > > Rahu is always retro. > > > So, will the above rule apply here and Rahu give > > > blessings instead of > > > the opposite due to its debilitation? Kindly > > > clarify. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Saraswathy > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > > > <in_joy_i_scream> > > > wrote: > > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > > > > > > > > > --------------------- > > > > Dear Ram, > > > > > > > > i read some articles, other than pundit sanjay > > > rath and other > > > eminent > > > > astrologers, that a retrograde and debilitated > > > planet is equivalent > > > > to exalted planet.is it true?one of our > members, > > > and also my friend > > > > partha insisted ,when i have given my friends > > > chart for reading, > > > that > > > > retrograde jupiter since debiltated is > > equivalent > > > to exalted planet. > > > > but in my opinion and as per sanjay rahts > > articles > > > infact a > > > > debilitated and retrograde palnet can give > more > > > negative effects > > > than > > > > only debilitated planet-pl kindly commnet on > > this > > > > > > > > Visti: If the deb+retro planet is in a > > dusthana > > > it will give > > > blessings. > > > > Fact is that a retrogade planet shows that > > theres > > > something > > > unresolved from > > > > past birth. If the planet is also debilitated, > > the > > > issue will > > > result in some > > > > very inauspicious happenings. > > > > i.e. an unresolved issue in past birth will > come > > > to this birth and > > > damage > > > > you! However if this is in a Dusthana(for > > benefic > > > grahas) or > > > > Kendra/Trikona(For malefic grahas) its > > auspicious. > > > > > > > > next question is:there is a particular degree > at > > > which a planet > > > > exalts or debilitates.suppose if the planet is > > in > > > its > > > > exaltation/debilitation sign but not at the > > degree > > > at which it is > > > > supposed to be exalted/debilitated then what > can > > > we say?i mean it is > > > > exalted/debilitated completely or exalted/ > > > debilitated partially. > > > > > > > > Visti: I've always been abit unsure about > > this. > > > Meditate on it i > > > guess. > > > > The Rishi's must have given these degrees for > a > > > purpose. Maybe a > > > Guru can > > > > shed light on this. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and > more > > http://games./ > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu > > || > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my. > Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games./ || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Terms of Service. Attachment: (application/x-unknown-content-type-JHora.Document) Sarbani.jhd [not stored] Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 om gurave namah ------------------------ Dear Sunil, This is extremely good. The properties and ahamkara that the great Ruchaka Yoga would give will be curtailed to minimum needed thus ensuring that you do not stray from the spiritual path. The Sukha Pada is in Lagna and the Bhaya Padha in the 11th house. These are all great indications for happiness. Once born in a Mahapurusha Yoga, recite the Gayatri mantra regularly to invoke its full strength. With best wishes Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/ SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - "Sunil Varma" <divinity_sun <vedic astrology> Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:52 AM [vedic astrology] Small doubt reg retrograde planet -- To Visti Dear Visti, Does Mars in a kendra, own house and retrograde prove beneficial. Say for LEo Lagna, a retrograde mars in Scorpio. Is this good or bad. Sunil --- Visti Larsen <in_joy_i_scream wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > ------------ > Dear Saraswathy, > There are two debilitation signs for Rahu; Sag and > Scorpio. > > Each have their special usage. One for Phalita and > the > other for Ayur. > > 1. Can anyone figure out which is which? > > 2. Does Ketu also get debilitated in Taurus, or only > in Gemini? Or rather the question is: Can Ketu be > debilitated for Ayur reasons? > > 3. Theres a stanza stating, that if the Nodes are > debilitated in Kendra, Srimantah Yoga occurs, which > gives alot og wealth. Which signs should they be > debilitated in? > > Rahu will give blessing of wealth in kendra(from > Lagna > or AL) but if in trines it will ruin the dharma. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- vs_saras <vs_saras wrote: > > Dear Visti, > > > > Om Sai Ram. > > > > You say: "deb+retro planet if in a > > Kendra/Trikona(For malefic > > grahas), it will give blessings." > > > > I have Rahu(a malefic)in the 1H in Sc in > > Debilitation and by nature, > > Rahu is always retro. > > So, will the above rule apply here and Rahu give > > blessings instead of > > the opposite due to its debilitation? Kindly > > clarify. > > > > Regards, > > Saraswathy > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > > <in_joy_i_scream> > > wrote: > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > > > > > --------------------- > > > Dear Ram, > > > > > > i read some articles, other than pundit sanjay > > rath and other > > eminent > > > astrologers, that a retrograde and debilitated > > planet is equivalent > > > to exalted planet.is it true?one of our members, > > and also my friend > > > partha insisted ,when i have given my friends > > chart for reading, > > that > > > retrograde jupiter since debiltated is > equivalent > > to exalted planet. > > > but in my opinion and as per sanjay rahts > articles > > infact a > > > debilitated and retrograde palnet can give more > > negative effects > > than > > > only debilitated planet-pl kindly commnet on > this > > > > > > Visti: If the deb+retro planet is in a > dusthana > > it will give > > blessings. > > > Fact is that a retrogade planet shows that > theres > > something > > unresolved from > > > past birth. If the planet is also debilitated, > the > > issue will > > result in some > > > very inauspicious happenings. > > > i.e. an unresolved issue in past birth will come > > to this birth and > > damage > > > you! However if this is in a Dusthana(for > benefic > > grahas) or > > > Kendra/Trikona(For malefic grahas) its > auspicious. > > > > > > next question is:there is a particular degree at > > which a planet > > > exalts or debilitates.suppose if the planet is > in > > its > > > exaltation/debilitation sign but not at the > degree > > at which it is > > > supposed to be exalted/debilitated then what can > > we say?i mean it is > > > exalted/debilitated completely or exalted/ > > debilitated partially. > > > > > > Visti: I've always been abit unsure about > this. > > Meditate on it i > > guess. > > > The Rishi's must have given these degrees for a > > purpose. Maybe a > > Guru can > > > shed light on this. > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > > > Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more > http://games./ > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > > Your use of is subject to > > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah -------------- Dear Jaiho, Your answers are correct, and you answered No.3 by your answer in No.1. Best wishes, Visti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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