Suicide and mass-murder - to Visti

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Dear Visti,

 

Thanks for making that point. Agree.

 

Greeting

Jay

 

 

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Visti Larsen

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Friday, May 31, 2002 9:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Suicide and mass-murder

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

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Dear Jay and Karu,

 

Jay wrote:

With all respect I can not accept your comment "Some people obey this desire,

some don't.." as it leaves destiny entirely at the hands of the "people" with

the option of yet "another" force to control and manipulate the "obeying" part

of us (!!! seen from a charts view point).

 

Visti: What the person does is seen from the lagna.. See the match between

Lagnamsa and the Karakamsa to see the persons attitude towards fulfilling the

souls desires. I'm not giving any room for ifs!!

Some people do not obey the souls desire, and as a result they get diseases and

problems.. only liberation is by worshipping Istha.

So we have two.. Lagna and Atma.

 

Karu wrote:

I do not think Atma can be blind at any time. The one and single goal of the

Atma is ultimate liberation from the cycle of rebirth. Suicide can come from

lot of mental tension or wrong guidance for some thing limited to this short

period of life (Religion,Language, Nationality etc.). This is against the true

goal or meaning of human life as he committed a sin against the desire of the

soul. This sort of feelings comes from Mana which is great enemy of Moksha, as

desires are the biggest barrier to liberation. Feeling of separation from

physical body cannot be a desire of the soul but one has to use this body for

complete the journey.

 

Visti: The Chara AK and the Naisargika AK, aren't exactly the same. The Chara

AK is the temporary significator of the true self(soul), in this birth. This

Chara AK has the job of bringing us closer to god..how or whether the person

gets closer to god, is definitely a big question!

 

Hitler had Venus as Atmakaraka and Shakti Yoga was destroying Jupiter in the

trines to AK, in Rasi.. Now what does this tell us? This clearly shows that the

person didn't choose god.. instead chose destruction of all the good(jup) in the

world, and hated god. Remember Hiranyaksa and his brother? In hitlers case the

AK failed in bringing hitler closer to god.

 

I've attached the chart of Hitler, Ed Harris(kid assasin in colorado i believe..

needs rectification) and Nathuram Godse, who was the assasin of Mahatma Gandhi..

check the AK in these charts and their trines..

 

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