Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Namaste Listmembers, This can be a wide discussion, and my input is probably tangential, but I would like to offer what little experience I have on the matter of suicide. I read somewhere that connections between the 3rd and 8th (life) houses can indicate the taking of ones life at ones own hands. Working in the area of acute crisis intervention with people who have attempted suicide, I have found that during recovery some victims often 'realise' they do not want to end their life, they just want the pain to stop. The agony is so intense and prolonged they become deranged. This is a very important point. With terminally ill patients 'pain management' often becomes impossible. Cause of death is usually respiratory failure due to their weakened state and prolonged narcotic use. Pain levels can be so unbelievably cruel that death is desired/welcomed. When conventional healing methods, including Western, Ayurvedic, Spiritual healings in all their many forms etc, are redundant to an individual case, what right do we have to impose suffering by denying their choice?. It is callous and possibly the worst kind of hubris not to pray "Be at peace and may God have mercy on your soul". What do we know of their contract with God??. Thank you for the charts and your explanation of soul impulse Visti. Fortunately I have a dearth of experience with mass murders. I can only imagine the first possibility of a disconnection between the act and the outcome, where death, and therefore life, is not fully understood or secondly, the life situation is experienced as unchangeable and intolerable. Acting on the impulse to annihilate others through hatred is inconceivable to me lest it is compartmentalized as pure evil or insanity. Krishna ordained the evil lives of Hiranyaksa and his brother to appease the slighted Brahmins. The brothers were cleansed and finally rewarded by death. To be sure, if they were Irish they would have recognised the 'little people' Om Shanti, Ann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2002 Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ------------ Dear Evie and Jay, Natural Paka Lagna is Jupiter. If Jupiter associates with 3rd or 8th from Arudha Lagna, the person may take their own life, or be the actual cause of their death.. sometimes this can be through Samadhi, not eating, etc.. This also makes them aware of their own death. Best wishes, Visti. - evie (AT) hotkey (DOT) net.au vedic astrology Cc: evie (AT) hotkey (DOT) net.au Saturday, June 01, 2002 5:51 PM [vedic astrology] Re: suicide and mass murder Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Namaste Listmembers, This can be a wide discussion, and my input is probably tangential, but I would like to offer what little experience I have on the matter of suicide. I read somewhere that connections between the 3rd and 8th (life) houses can indicate the taking of ones life at ones own hands. Working in the area of acute crisis intervention with people who have attempted suicide, I have found that during recovery some victims often 'realise' they do not want to end their life, they just want the pain to stop. The agony is so intense and prolonged they become deranged. This is a very important point. With terminally ill patients 'pain management' often becomes impossible. Cause of death is usually respiratory failure due to their weakened state and prolonged narcotic use. Pain levels can be so unbelievably cruel that death is desired/welcomed. When conventional healing methods, including Western, Ayurvedic, Spiritual healings in all their many forms etc, are redundant to an individual case, what right do we have to impose suffering by denying their choice?. It is callous and possibly the worst kind of hubris not to pray "Be at peace and may God have mercy on your soul". What do we know of their contract with God??. Thank you for the charts and your explanation of soul impulse Visti. Fortunately I have a dearth of experience with mass murders. I can only imagine the first possibility of a disconnection between the act and the outcome, where death, and therefore life, is not fully understood or secondly, the life situation is experienced as unchangeable and intolerable. Acting on the impulse to annihilate others through hatred is inconceivable to me lest it is compartmentalized as pure evil or insanity. Krishna ordained the evil lives of Hiranyaksa and his brother to appease the slighted Brahmins. The brothers were cleansed and finally rewarded by death. To be sure, if they were Irish they would have recognised the 'little people' Om Shanti, Ann. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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