Indo-Pak War? Possibly. Nuclear Holocaust? No way!

June 6, 2002

Om Gurave Namah!

Dear Narasimha Rao,

What is in the chart of India that makes other powers perceive her as the

aggressor and not the victim? In other words, why are the terrorist incursions

against India that have left so many people dead over the years not seen in

their correct perspective? Is this something to do with the AL of India?

OM TAT SAT

Robyn

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pvr108

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Thursday, June 06, 2002 5:22 AM

[vedic astrology] Indo-Pak War? Possibly. Nuclear Holocaust? No way!

Indo-Pak War? Possibly. Nuclear Holocaust? No way!Narasimha P.V.R. RaoJune 5,

can go wrong.]In the last few days, we have seen travel advisories from USA and

UK urging their citizens to "consider leaving" India and Pakistan. Today UK

went one step ahead and issued an upgraded advisory urging UK citizens to

"leave" India and Pakistan. These western governmental reactions as well as the

media hype about the possible nuclear holocaust have served Pakistan's purpose

of building, albeit out of fear of the unknown, international opinion against

Indian military action against the terrorist camps in

Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir. The casualty of all this hype and scare-mongering is

India's legitimate case against the terrorist camps of

Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir, allegedly running with the blessings of Pakistani

government.USA freely went after "terrorists" operating against it in the last

6 months. Israeli army surrounded Chairman Arafat's compound again today, in

retaliation to the latest terrorist attack against Israel. Yet, when it comes

to India's suffering at the hands of Pakistan-sponsored terrorism, India is

continually urged to "show restraint". Pakistan's nuclear threats appear to

have worked well.Astrologically, let us answer two questions: (1) Can there be

a war between India and Pakistan in the coming month? (2) Will there be a

nuclear holocaust?As per A.B. Vajpayee's Rudramsa Mandooka dasa, dasa of the

6th house containing Rahu runs 1998-2005. As long as he is the leader of India,

India will only win in wars in this period and India's enemies will be crushed.

Especially antardasa of Satru Rudra Bahya and pratyantardasa of Satru Rudra

Dwara in June 1999 resulted in a victory in the Kargil war. The pratyantardasa

of Satru Rudra Bahya in the antardasa of Satru Rudra Dwara is just about to

start (during June 7-25, 2002). This period can again bring a victory over

enemy. There is a decent chance of Indian offensive against the enemy during

June 7-25.Saturn and Rahu are currently conjoined closely. This conjunction of

evil planets occurs close to India's natal lagna. From India's lagna (Taurus),

Saturn and Rahu are 9th and 10th lords and their conjunction - in transit - in

lagna is materially favorable. It makes India bold. From natal Moon, this is

the 11th house transit and good. But, for Pakistan, this is the 12th house

transit and very bad.India is about to begin the 9-year Narayana dasa of Libra,

which is likely take India to great heights during August 2002-August 2011.

India is not a country on the verge of destruction and setbacks. It is a

country on the verge of an aggressibe and assertive phase and is all set to

become a superpower by 2015.There is a decent chance of some military strikes

by India after June 7. However, there will NOT be a nuclear holocaust. The

media hype is unjustified. It is an overreaction to the bluff of Pakistani

leaders.India will be very careful. India will have a well-defined mission and

stick to it. India will ignore provocations to expand the war. Despite huge

amount of casualties, but India will succeed in its primary mission and in not

giving in to provocations. The war will not lead to a nuclear holocause.Anyway,

war or not, the end result in the coming 6 months will be face loss for

Musharraf and dissatisfaction in the militant groups and revolt against him in

Pakistan by the militant groups that suffered setbacks in Kashmir and

Afghanistan.The next few years are very dangerous for Pakistan and Pakistan may

spiral down the path of decay. In fact, there is a good chance that the nation

of Pakistan as we know today will not exist 8 years from now and will split

into a few nations. However, it will not come about via a nuclear holocaust. It

will come about as a result of the militancy nurtured by the state for decades

in an attempt to trouble the neighbors turning inwards. It is a slow process

that started in 2001, at the onset of Aries Shoola dasa (trine from arudha

lagna and a maraka dasa - killer period). Military/diplomatic victory of India

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June 7, 2002

Dear Robyn,

> Om Gurave Namah!

> Dear Narasimha Rao,

>

> What is in the chart of India that makes other powers perceive

> her as the aggressor and not the victim? In other words, why

> are the terrorist incursions against India that have left so

> many people dead over the years not seen in their correct

> perspective? Is this something to do with the AL of India?

>

> OM TAT SAT

> Robyn

Other powers do not really perceive India as the aggressor. There has

been an increased level of understanding of India's position among

big powers in the last one year. Musharraf's "Kashmiri militants are

freedom fighters and not terrorists" line has been met with scorn in

US and UK. Nevertheless, the big powers don't want to apply too much

pressure on Pakistan, as they fear that it will lead to the collapse

of Pakistan (which will most probably happen anyway).

India has always been a soft nation and highly tolerant of pain

inflicted on her. So big powers find it easier to pacify India than

to put Pakistan on the correct path. However, they will have to deal

with a changed India from 2002.

As for the perceptions of the world about India, there is no single

perception. Different parts of the world and different levels of the

society have different perceptions of India. I don't know how to

analyze it astrologically. Even for individuals, one's mother may

have one perception of a native, father may have his own perception,

some friends may have one perception and some other people may

perceive the native differently. The image of a person (AL) has many

sides to it, depending on from whose perspective we are looking at

things. I don't know how to analyze it astrologically.

India's arudha lagna is in Virgo, with argalas from Jupiter and

several other planets. There are going to be multiple factors

influencing India's image. But mainly Virgo shows an intelligent

person. So India may be perceived as a nation of intelligent people.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

June 7, 2002

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

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Dear Robyn,

Its because the Arudha Lagna shows the Mental Mirror of the truth.

Best wishes, Visti.

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Robyn

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Friday, June 07, 2002 11:45 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Indo-Pak War? Possibly. Nuclear Holocaust? No way!

Om Gurave Namah!

Dear Narasimha Rao,

Thank you for the response. The Arudha lagna is a concept that still eludes me.

I find it difficult to grasp completely. On one tape of Guru Rath's he said

that the Arudha is the 'body' that we ride for this lifetime, implying that it

has a very real role to play in the reality of our lives. But at the same time,

I read that it is only the 'perception' that the world has of us that is the

arudha. I find that if I analyse my life according to Narayana Dasa from the

Arudha Lagna, I get a far more accurate picture of what happened to me in

actual occurences than from Lagna with Vim.

With Virgo ascendant and Taurus as my AL, the personal as opposed to the

political is interesting to consider in relation to India's chart.

Let us hope that we get through the next week without some of the predictions coming true!

All the best

Robyn

R.E.SIMPSONwww.jyotishdiscovery.comresimpson (AT) worldonline (DOT) co.za

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Friday, June 07, 2002 3:13 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Indo-Pak War? Possibly. Nuclear Holocaust? No way!

Dear Robyn,> Om Gurave Namah!> Dear Narasimha Rao,> > What is in the chart of

India that makes other powers perceive> her as the aggressor and not the

victim? In other words, why> are the terrorist incursions against India that

have left so> many people dead over the years not seen in their correct>

perspective? Is this something to do with the AL of India?> > OM TAT SAT>

RobynOther powers do not really perceive India as the aggressor. There has been

an increased level of understanding of India's position among big powers in the

last one year. Musharraf's "Kashmiri militants are freedom fighters and not

terrorists" line has been met with scorn in US and UK. Nevertheless, the big

powers don't want to apply too much pressure on Pakistan, as they fear that it

will lead to the collapse of Pakistan (which will most probably happen

anyway).India has always been a soft nation and highly tolerant of pain

inflicted on her. So big powers find it easier to pacify India than to put

Pakistan on the correct path. However, they will have to deal with a changed

India from 2002.As for the perceptions of the world about India, there is no

single perception. Different parts of the world and different levels of the

society have different perceptions of India. I don't know how to analyze it

astrologically. Even for individuals, one's mother may have one perception of a

native, father may have his own perception, some friends may have one perception

and some other people may perceive the native differently. The image of a person

(AL) has many sides to it, depending on from whose perspective we are looking at

things. I don't know how to analyze it astrologically.India's arudha lagna is in

Virgo, with argalas from Jupiter and several other planets. There are going to

be multiple factors influencing India's image. But mainly Virgo shows an

intelligent person. So India may be perceived as a nation of intelligent

people.May Jupiter's light shine on us,NarasimhaArchives:

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shine on us .......

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June 7, 2002

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

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Dear Robyn,

Consciousness is a big word, and depends on how our emotions and intelligence

works together. However if we solely worked on rationale based intelligence,

then there would be no Maya.

Hence the intelligent person looks through Maya.

So Maya is rather a playground for the mind(moon). I know you have a certain

ammount of arms and legs, as many other humans, yet thats not all i see! Hence

i differentiate you from another human being, using the concept of Maya. A good

example is the case of a world leader. The person has roughly the same bodily

qualities as us, and prolly also a soul and mind, yet i see more than this in

the person. I see a person in a position of power, with certain characteristics

attributed to him/her.

A strict ruler/person would have Saturn influencing his Arudha Lagna, whilst a

soft and giving ruler would have Jupiter. A Mystical ruler, who we'd never know

about until too late, would have Ketu, and an agressive ferocious ruler would

have Mars.

But this is all that i see.. it may not be their actual actions, or goals.

So what do i see in your posts. Theres a nice sense of feminity, indicating some

Venus. Theres Mercury because you don't settle with a final answer, and also

shows your wit and ability to laugh at it all.

How is this messured? Through the mirror of the person(lagna) and their

actions(paka Lagna).. the result is the Arudha Lagna.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes, Visti.

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Robyn

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Saturday, June 08, 2002 1:50 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Indo-Pak War? Possibly. Nuclear Holocaust? No way!

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Visti,

I really enjoy your pithy replies but could you be more specific? Do you mean

that this is how one perceives the 'truth' or 'reality' through one's own

consciousness or how the reality is mirrored back to us? Sorry...but its a real

problem for me this concept and its vital in understanding the whole chart.

Best wishes

Robyn

R.E.SIMPSONwww.jyotishdiscovery.comresimpson (AT) worldonline (DOT) co.za

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Visti Larsen

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Friday, June 07, 2002 6:08 PM