Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 Dear Gurus Though I am astro lover some questions really baffle me. I will try to put my questions in following list as these really haunt me when reading any astro article : 1. what is the exactly logic behind the Karkatwa of any planet.For eg Saturn is considered to be planet with all the delays while Jupiter is considered to be uplifting of human in all the aspects of life.So why Saturn is bad and Jupiter is good? 2.what logic governs the friendship of planets? 3.Why one should consider only the birth time of baby for predicting its life. After all when baby is in mothers womb then also it consider to alive.So the planets which influence the baby after it is born then same planet should affect the baby when it is in mother's womb.So why not to take date of conception rather than date of birth? 4.And when predicting death of a human how can one should predict the mass death in modern life such as war or terror attack. 5. Is there any study on astrology which has been supported by statistical data and also verified. I hope learned gurus won't take these questions as rude remarks on astrology. Regards Parag HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Parag, Namaste. > Dear Gurus > > Though I am astro lover some questions really baffle > me. > > I will try to put my questions in following list as > these really haunt me when reading any astro article : > > 1. what is the exactly logic behind the Karkatwa of > any planet.For eg Saturn is considered to be planet > with all the delays while Jupiter is considered to be > uplifting of human in all the aspects of life.So why > Saturn is bad and Jupiter is good? This goesw back to the Puranic histories where the personalities of the planets are described. Besides that, the Grahas are incarnations of different Devatas and Vishnu/avataras, therefore they bear different qualities, althoug all of them are necessary. Therefore even though we differentiate between subha and asubha grahas, all of them bear some necessary and favourable qualities, while unfavourable qualities may also be there. So a deepre stydu into the Puranas will reveal alot about the Krakatwas of the planets. > 2.what logic governs the friendship of planets? Parashara gives a rule for that, but the real undelying principle is again to be found in the nature and genalogy of the Grha Devatas. I don't know all the stories, but for example Rahu and Ketu are the head and body of a demon, who tried to steal the amrita from the Devatas. Lord Vishnu separated his head and torso, and thus he always intends to attack the divine planets Sun and Moon, causing eclipses. Other stories may also be found there. > > 3.Why one should consider only the birth time of baby > for predicting its life. After all when baby is in > mothers womb then also it consider to alive.So the > planets which influence the baby after it is born then > same planet should affect the baby when it is in > mother's womb.So why not to take date of conception > rather than date of birth? This is also taken. Jaimini and other authors give a lot of details about the reading of the adhana or nisheka chart. This helps us to define the time of proposed birth, the progress of pregnancy, the circumstances of birth and certain informations about the child like color of skin, health, etc. For girls even the time of first menses is taken as a chart and readings about marriage, childbirth etc are made from it. Although Janma or irth is the most important moment in one's life, other moments are also considered for reading. > > 4.And when predicting death of a human how can one > should predict the mass death in modern life such as > war or terror attack. This should be done from mundane charts like those of establishing the country, electing a presindent or coronation of a king, yearly and monthly charts. You can find some details about mundane astrology in Narasimha's book Vedic Astrology: An integrated approach. In such mundane readings Rahu and Ketu and their conjunctions and Dristis have much importance, as well as certain divisional charts like D-8 and D-11. > 5. Is there any study on astrology which has been > supported by statistical data and also verified. I'm not aware of any. But you shoudl bear in mind that if the astrological principles are not applied correctly, then no amount of statiscics is enough to prove an incorrectly understood principle. Also Jyotish has a very intricate network of rules, so if something is left out of sight, then the result will again not be valid. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 > I hope learned gurus won't take these questions as > rude remarks on astrology. > > Regards > Parag > > > > > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 Dear Gaurang Thanks For your reply. I would like to continue from our last disscussion. I think still some more questions remain. 1. As you must be knowing that in modern science it is possible to born baby in test tube whose birth place and date can be very well controlled. Also during birth of baby in modern days, some medicines are available to postponed or preponed the birth of baby.So how can we So how to justify such cases in astrology.As human is capable of controlling the birth time and place. Again hope that these are just questions born out of curosity. No rude comments are intended. Thanks Regards Parag --- Gauranga Das <gauranga wrote: > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Parag, > > Namaste. > > > > Dear Gurus > > > > Though I am astro lover some questions really > baffle > > me. > > > > I will try to put my questions in following list > as > > these really haunt me when reading any astro > article : > > > > 1. what is the exactly logic behind the Karkatwa > of > > any planet.For eg Saturn is considered to be > planet > > with all the delays while Jupiter is considered to > be > > uplifting of human in all the aspects of life.So > why > > Saturn is bad and Jupiter is good? > > This goesw back to the Puranic histories where the > personalities of the > planets are described. Besides that, the Grahas are > incarnations of > different Devatas and Vishnu/avataras, therefore > they bear different > qualities, althoug all of them are necessary. > Therefore even though we > differentiate between subha and asubha grahas, all > of them bear some > necessary and favourable qualities, while > unfavourable qualities may also be > there. So a deepre stydu into the Puranas will > reveal alot about the > Krakatwas of the planets. > > > 2.what logic governs the friendship of planets? > > Parashara gives a rule for that, but the real > undelying principle is again > to be found in the nature and genalogy of the Grha > Devatas. I don't know all > the stories, but for example Rahu and Ketu are the > head and body of a demon, > who tried to steal the amrita from the Devatas. Lord > Vishnu separated his > head and torso, and thus he always intends to attack > the divine planets Sun > and Moon, causing eclipses. Other stories may also > be found there. > > > > > 3.Why one should consider only the birth time of > baby > > for predicting its life. After all when baby is in > > mothers womb then also it consider to alive.So the > > planets which influence the baby after it is born > then > > same planet should affect the baby when it is in > > mother's womb.So why not to take date of > conception > > rather than date of birth? > > This is also taken. Jaimini and other authors give a > lot of details about > the reading of the adhana or nisheka chart. This > helps us to define the time > of proposed birth, the progress of pregnancy, the > circumstances of birth and > certain informations about the child like color of > skin, health, etc. For > girls even the time of first menses is taken as a > chart and readings about > marriage, childbirth etc are made from it. Although > Janma or irth is the > most important moment in one's life, other moments > are also considered for > reading. > > > > > 4.And when predicting death of a human how can one > > should predict the mass death in modern life such > as > > war or terror attack. > > This should be done from mundane charts like those > of establishing the > country, electing a presindent or coronation of a > king, yearly and monthly > charts. You can find some details about mundane > astrology in Narasimha's > book Vedic Astrology: An integrated approach. In > such mundane readings Rahu > and Ketu and their conjunctions and Dristis have > much importance, as well as > certain divisional charts like D-8 and D-11. > > > 5. Is there any study on astrology which has been > > supported by statistical data and also verified. > > I'm not aware of any. But you shoudl bear in mind > that if the astrological > principles are not applied correctly, then no amount > of statiscics is enough > to prove an incorrectly understood principle. Also > Jyotish has a very > intricate network of rules, so if something is left > out of sight, then the > result will again not be valid. > > Yours, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > gauranga > Jyotish Remedies: > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > I hope learned gurus won't take these questions as > > rude remarks on astrology. > > > > Regards > > Parag > > > > > > > > > > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > > http://www.hotjobs.com > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 dear parag, you asked a wonderful enquiry i am a sincere seeker and i will have tried to answer these quistion to myself.so i let you read some wise men books so you you know it is not mine.if you think a scintist is a wise man go ahead read a book from carl sagan a famous scientist" sceince a candle in the darkness" he had ahard time to sign a paper where another scintist tried to prove astrology as not science. if you go around a wise scintist and read a 19th century saint and wise man please read about life and teaching of bagwan ramana maharishi. iwill send you list if you are interested science will certainly make god work verry very complicated so i think god and science sorry god and satan will fight fierce fight do i appeal to your logic here like god and satan has never ever confronted each other. my friend in this karma buami relative world god and satan co exist you take satan out the god disappeare too, once science create a new life thru tube baby it has fulfilled only life of one rich man whoes karma he still dont know we could colonised even princess diana could we made charles to love her.lo sun comes out it has given the hope to billions animal including us. knowing this union with this sun or as wise says know thyself the mystery of life will be solved. astrology surely could predict about our misery and we are so prone to it we even want to come back as test tube babies. thank you science and mr einstien poor soul on looking into the result of his creation of bomb said once" i wish my proffession was plumber and not a hyadro bomb scintist" and the man who trew bomb on hiroshima went crazy look into history book. science will remain on surface and to know the chita of god you let it name as per wise maya/illusion and you have to go deeper than science to find answer . for quick answer there are about 50 matas in india and one thousand fake gurus give you quick solution drink it you are free one give you cool air tru your finger she is saving the planet. and also picked our president i wrote her why cant she destroy evil people like bin laden and his evil empire i colud not get answer as she gave the job to someomne else but when people in th same businees died she advertise she kill them like rajneesh. thanks and research first you will notice astrology also work and timing for tube baby we live in kaliyuga gayism greed lust lesbiansim will increase and god will be only on dollars and dollars will create more problem thru dollar exchange to satanic people one day barter system might come back and we will find speed and test tube baby has not done much for the happiness of masses. regards rajinder sorry i may have gone astray from the point but all these are relavent --- parag dharmadhikari <dparagin wrote: > Dear Gaurang > > Thanks For your reply. > > I would like to continue from our last disscussion. > > I think still some more questions remain. > > 1. As you must be knowing that in modern science it > is > possible to born baby in test tube whose birth place > and date can be very well controlled. > > Also during birth of baby in modern days, some > medicines are available to postponed or preponed the > birth of baby.So how can we > > So how to justify such cases in astrology.As human > is > capable of controlling the birth time and place. > > Again hope that these are just questions born out of > curosity. No rude comments are intended. > > Thanks > > Regards > Parag > > > > --- Gauranga Das <gauranga wrote: > > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > Dear Parag, > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > Dear Gurus > > > > > > Though I am astro lover some questions really > > baffle > > > me. > > > > > > I will try to put my questions in following list > > as > > > these really haunt me when reading any astro > > article : > > > > > > 1. what is the exactly logic behind the Karkatwa > > of > > > any planet.For eg Saturn is considered to be > > planet > > > with all the delays while Jupiter is considered > to > > be > > > uplifting of human in all the aspects of life.So > > why > > > Saturn is bad and Jupiter is good? > > > > This goesw back to the Puranic histories where the > > personalities of the > > planets are described. Besides that, the Grahas > are > > incarnations of > > different Devatas and Vishnu/avataras, therefore > > they bear different > > qualities, althoug all of them are necessary. > > Therefore even though we > > differentiate between subha and asubha grahas, all > > of them bear some > > necessary and favourable qualities, while > > unfavourable qualities may also be > > there. So a deepre stydu into the Puranas will > > reveal alot about the > > Krakatwas of the planets. > > > > > 2.what logic governs the friendship of planets? > > > > Parashara gives a rule for that, but the real > > undelying principle is again > > to be found in the nature and genalogy of the Grha > > Devatas. I don't know all > > the stories, but for example Rahu and Ketu are the > > head and body of a demon, > > who tried to steal the amrita from the Devatas. > Lord > > Vishnu separated his > > head and torso, and thus he always intends to > attack > > the divine planets Sun > > and Moon, causing eclipses. Other stories may also > > be found there. > > > > > > > > 3.Why one should consider only the birth time of > > baby > > > for predicting its life. After all when baby is > in > > > mothers womb then also it consider to alive.So > the > > > planets which influence the baby after it is > born > > then > > > same planet should affect the baby when it is in > > > mother's womb.So why not to take date of > > conception > > > rather than date of birth? > > > > This is also taken. Jaimini and other authors give > a > > lot of details about > > the reading of the adhana or nisheka chart. This > > helps us to define the time > > of proposed birth, the progress of pregnancy, the > > circumstances of birth and > > certain informations about the child like color of > > skin, health, etc. For > > girls even the time of first menses is taken as a > > chart and readings about > > marriage, childbirth etc are made from it. > Although > > Janma or irth is the > > most important moment in one's life, other moments > > are also considered for > > reading. > > > > > > > > 4.And when predicting death of a human how can > one > > > should predict the mass death in modern life > such > > as > > > war or terror attack. > > > > This should be done from mundane charts like those > > of establishing the > > country, electing a presindent or coronation of a > > king, yearly and monthly > > charts. You can find some details about mundane > > astrology in Narasimha's > > book Vedic Astrology: An integrated approach. In > > such mundane readings Rahu > > and Ketu and their conjunctions and Dristis have > > much importance, as well as > > certain divisional charts like D-8 and D-11. > > > > > 5. Is there any study on astrology which has > been > > > supported by statistical data and also verified. > > > > I'm not aware of any. But you shoudl bear in mind > > that if the astrological > > principles are not applied correctly, then no > amount > > of statiscics is enough > > to prove an incorrectly understood principle. Also > > Jyotish has a very > > intricate network of rules, so if something is > left > > out of sight, then the > > result will again not be valid. > > > > Yours, > > > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > gauranga > > Jyotish Remedies: > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > I hope learned gurus won't take these questions > as > > > rude remarks on astrology. > > > > > > Regards > > > Parag > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > > > http://www.hotjobs.com > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > === message truncated === HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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