What Can Astrologers Learn.--how about collective deaths?..

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Mr. Rampriya;

 

How does astrology explian the mass deaths in the WTC incident? Did

all the 3000+ who died have mars or rahu in their 8th house? or did

they all have a similar blemish in their charts that would lead to

premature and vioilent death?

 

I've noted that individuals with mars or rahu in 8th house or having

kal-sarpa yog wiht a rahu in 8th placement die a violent death--

Indira Gandhi, Sanjay Gandhi, a builder in bombay I knew who was

murdered by the underworld, etc. etc.

 

Does this mean that all the people invloved in mass death have either

kal-sarpa yog or mar or rahu in their 8th?

 

MD

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "ramapriya_d" <ramapriya_d> wrote:

> Dear Imran,

>

> My brother was born in Bangalore at 10.31 am on 8 Aug 1963. Have a

> look at the chart at your leisure. You'll find that, except for

> Moon's position in D-9, it's a replica of Sanjay's chart. My

> brother, an electronics engineer, is a very successful entrepreneur

> and among other things is the father of this country's one

billionth

> child. Even if I try desperately, I can't find in him similarities

> with Sanjay about astrology, because his knowledge of it is lesser

> than my 4-yr old son's. What does it disprove/prove??

>

> One other example. My wife has a bro and sis who are twins. The sis

> is happily married and settled, while the bro is an unmarried,

> unemployed, alcoholic who the doc has given not more than a year to

> live (liver cirrhosis). Twins, Imran, twins!! You're talking about

a

> person's chart that was nearly identical as Sanjay's, but it

> couldn't have been any more similar than the twins' charts, surely!

>

> Once you discover the magical world of divisional charts and go

> deeper to realize that nearly every inhalation and exhalation of

> breath can make a difference, you'll realize that the D-1 charts

are

> itself very broad. You'll also realize how evolved were those souls

> who propounded vedic astrology.

>

> Unless, of course, you're going to insist that all the thousands

> born on any given day with the same planetary positions must all

> have identical lives. That'll make for a new astrological theory,

> and possibly a new , but catch me being a member or that!

>

> No offense meant. I think you're being more staid than necessary,

> that's all

>

> Take it easy,

>

> Ramapriya

>

> hubli@v...

>

>

> vedic astrology, Muhammad Imran <astroimran> wrote:

> >

> > Dear & Respected List,

> >

> > It is an irony that my message was misconceived as well as my

> lacking of delivering the subject thoroughly and clearly. When

> anyone come arcoss a chart identical to any renowned personality or

> celebrity then for showing his amaze he just say your chart is very

> much symmetrical to (say) Hitler or Saddam Hussain, but its not

mean

> he accuse his friend/client of barbarity, killing and playing

havoc.

> Similarly, I didn't equat Pandit Sanjay Rath with my friend B, and

> assume how any one in the list can malign his Guru. I personally

> apologize to Sanjay Rath, if he hurted. I was just differentiating

> my friend "A" and "B", one is suffering instead of learned and well

> versed while second is enjoying fame and respect as a

fortuneteller,

> though not at home in astrology? In short I am looking for those

> astrological combinations result in success as a fortuneteller. (It

> is also possible that anyone knows astrology very well but no one

> consider him as an astrologer)

> >

> > Secondly I was in dilema how the 4 prohibitations(about meat,

> wine, gambling and womenizing) can prove helpful in making true

> predictions. And many of the learned and experienced list can

> understand the psycho of a young guy when he observe a wide

> difference between divine principles and perceptions. Is it

possible

> that all of learned and knowledgable get name and respect which

they

> deserve? I think no, many capables are on foot path and lots of

> ineligble are on throne.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > M.Imran

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > News - Today's headlines

[Guest guest]

May be mass deaths have the following explanation.

 

An astrologer in Chennai told me about that. If astrology predicts a

person's life span as 80. It is possible that he might have accidents

that might

kill him at 50 or 60 or whatever.

 

in tamil he phrased it as 'agala maranam' (meaning untimely death)

 

in those cases, the soul (well, according to this astrologer) 'roams'

around the place of death, with no peace, until the right time (80)

arrives.

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111> wrote:

> Mr. Rampriya;

>

> How does astrology explian the mass deaths in the WTC incident? Did

> all the 3000+ who died have mars or rahu in their 8th house? or did

> they all have a similar blemish in their charts that would lead to

> premature and vioilent death?

>

> I've noted that individuals with mars or rahu in 8th house or

having

> kal-sarpa yog wiht a rahu in 8th placement die a violent death--

> Indira Gandhi, Sanjay Gandhi, a builder in bombay I knew who was

> murdered by the underworld, etc. etc.

>

> Does this mean that all the people invloved in mass death have

either

> kal-sarpa yog or mar or rahu in their 8th?

>

> MD

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "ramapriya_d" <ramapriya_d> wrote:

> > Dear Imran,

> >

> > My brother was born in Bangalore at 10.31 am on 8 Aug 1963. Have

a

> > look at the chart at your leisure. You'll find that, except for

> > Moon's position in D-9, it's a replica of Sanjay's chart. My

> > brother, an electronics engineer, is a very successful

entrepreneur

> > and among other things is the father of this country's one

> billionth

> > child. Even if I try desperately, I can't find in him

similarities

> > with Sanjay about astrology, because his knowledge of it is

lesser

> > than my 4-yr old son's. What does it disprove/prove??

> >

> > One other example. My wife has a bro and sis who are twins. The

sis

> > is happily married and settled, while the bro is an unmarried,

> > unemployed, alcoholic who the doc has given not more than a year

to

> > live (liver cirrhosis). Twins, Imran, twins!! You're talking

about

> a

> > person's chart that was nearly identical as Sanjay's, but it

> > couldn't have been any more similar than the twins' charts,

surely!

> >

> > Once you discover the magical world of divisional charts and go

> > deeper to realize that nearly every inhalation and exhalation of

> > breath can make a difference, you'll realize that the D-1 charts

> are

> > itself very broad. You'll also realize how evolved were those

souls

> > who propounded vedic astrology.

> >

> > Unless, of course, you're going to insist that all the thousands

> > born on any given day with the same planetary positions must all

> > have identical lives. That'll make for a new astrological theory,

> > and possibly a new , but catch me being a member or

that!

> >

> > No offense meant. I think you're being more staid than necessary,

> > that's all

> >

> > Take it easy,

> >

> > Ramapriya

> >

> > hubli@v...

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Muhammad Imran <astroimran>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear & Respected List,

> > >

> > > It is an irony that my message was misconceived as well as my

> > lacking of delivering the subject thoroughly and clearly. When

> > anyone come arcoss a chart identical to any renowned personality

or

> > celebrity then for showing his amaze he just say your chart is

very

> > much symmetrical to (say) Hitler or Saddam Hussain, but its not

> mean

> > he accuse his friend/client of barbarity, killing and playing

> havoc.

> > Similarly, I didn't equat Pandit Sanjay Rath with my friend B,

and

> > assume how any one in the list can malign his Guru. I personally

> > apologize to Sanjay Rath, if he hurted. I was just

differentiating

> > my friend "A" and "B", one is suffering instead of learned and

well

> > versed while second is enjoying fame and respect as a

> fortuneteller,

> > though not at home in astrology? In short I am looking for those

> > astrological combinations result in success as a fortuneteller.

(It

> > is also possible that anyone knows astrology very well but no one

> > consider him as an astrologer)

> > >

> > > Secondly I was in dilema how the 4 prohibitations(about meat,

> > wine, gambling and womenizing) can prove helpful in making true

> > predictions. And many of the learned and experienced list can

> > understand the psycho of a young guy when he observe a wide

> > difference between divine principles and perceptions. Is it

> possible

> > that all of learned and knowledgable get name and respect which

> they

> > deserve? I think no, many capables are on foot path and lots of

> > ineligble are on throne.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > M.Imran

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > News - Today's headlines

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monmuk111 wrote:

Mr. Rampriya;How does astrology explian the mass deaths in the WTC incident? Did

all the 3000+ who died have mars or rahu in their 8th house?

Not just the 8th house, mate. There are lots of other considerations in a chart

before deciding which house causes the death, and how. There are chara rasi

dasas that help pinpoint this, I believe. You musta of shoola dasa, D-11, etc.,

right?

or did they all have a similar blemish in their charts that would lead to

premature and vioilent death?

They must have. Just as the 3000+ that survived the crash mustn't have.I've

noted that individuals with mars or rahu in 8th house or having kal-sarpa yog

wiht a rahu in 8th placement die a violent death--Indira Gandhi, Sanjay Gandhi,

a builder in bombay I knew who was murdered by the underworld, etc. etc.

Could be, but like I've cried hoarse, stereotypicalization is a road for the

astrologer that's fraught only with peril. Any good astrologer would tell you

that there are many facets to a chart that need consideration before a

conclusion is arrived at. Personally, I could've let go of astrology because a

retro Merc is in 6H in my D-24. Perhaps I know a little more of this than a

favorably placed Merc in someone else's D-24! Isolated examination will only

lead to isolated results.Does this mean that all the people invloved in mass

death have either kal-sarpa yog or mar or rahu in their 8th?

Not at all.

I rest my case.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

MD

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