Guest guest Posted September 23, 2002 Report Share Posted September 23, 2002 Hi, I know it is accepted that retro planets are past curses, and that the circumstances and type of curse is to be winkled from D-60. It is another view that retro planets' actualization is slower than when direct. If I've understood this right, the curse is to deny the fruit of a planet despite it being placed somewhere in the native's chart. Well, if that's so, why then is combustion not be deemed a curse too? The Sun blocking the rays of a planet apparently looks as similar in denial as a retro one. The planet is there but is sort of helpless because it is placed so. I'd go a step further in respect of those planets (other than the Sun) that get defeated in planetary war. Why are vanquished (in war) and combust grahas not deemed curses? I'd be grateful if someone spares a minute for a reply. Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Ramapriya, Namaste. - Ramapriya D Vedic astro post Monday, September 23, 2002 11:43 AM [vedic astrology] The curse of retrogression Hi, I know it is accepted that retro planets are past curses, and that the circumstances and type of curse is to be winkled from D-60. It is another view that retro planets' actualization is slower than when direct. If I've understood this right, the curse is to deny the fruit of a planet despite it being placed somewhere in the native's chart. I would like to add a few thoughts here. Curses is a somewhat different issue from retrograde planets. Maharishis Parashara gives a whole chapter on curses from previous lives. This is ch. 85 in Sagar's edition. Parashara describes curses for childlessness, but they can be extenden to other houses besides the 5th. The principle is that the house, its lord as well as its natural significator should all be afflicted either together or separately by malefics. The strongest afflicting planet will determine the cursing person's status as follows: Jupiter - teachers or brahmins; Rahu - sarpa or snakes; Sun - father; Moon - mother, Mars - brother; Mercury - maternal uncle; Venus - wife; Saturn - forefathers or ghosts. For example Jupiter in Bhagava Sri Rama's chart receives graha dristi from Mars and Saturn and thus indicates curse by a brahmin fulfilled by the father (Jupiter lord of 9th house) and afflicting mainly marriage (7th house and Upapada). Retrograde planets would rather indicate some unfulfilled duties or unrealised desires from previous life, and although it causes delays in the results, it also makes the native try harder as retro planets are stronger than while direct. Well, if that's so, why then is combustion not be deemed a curse too? The Sun blocking the rays of a planet apparently looks as similar in denial as a retro one. The planet is there but is sort of helpless because it is placed so. I'd go a step further in respect of those planets (other than the Sun) that get defeated in planetary war. Combust means that some one obstructs you from achieving the results attributed to the combust planet. It is suppressed by a higher power. Of course the cause may be karmic in this case also, but it would be that you have also suppressed somebody in your previous life. Why are vanquished (in war) and combust grahas not deemed curses? I'd be grateful if someone spares a minute for a reply. Planetary war I would put as follows: the winner takes over everything from the loser. So the defeated planet could indicate some debts from previous life repayed now. But the winning planet would indicate some debts repayed to you or unexpected victory. Still you should see how the two planets relate to AK, Lagna and AL in order to see how much gain or loss will thye bring to you, and their Karakatwas and ownership to decide who will conquer or be conquered by you. Also rajayogas and viparita rajayogas should be considered here. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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