to Karen re: Veg or Non-veg in Hinduism

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Dear Karen:

 

This is a genuine dillema. Most Hindu priests, especially the thugs

in India wearing orange robes, talk about the "pap," i.e.sin of

eating non-veg food.

 

Now, there is a repeated mention of Hindu Kings (some also

incarnations of God) going for a hunt, which means they did eat meat.

There are some mentions about Sages eating meat.

 

So, why not let the learned-ones put this issue to rest. Can or Can't

the Hindus eat meat and if they do, is it a sin?

 

Karen, we're lucky that we do have some Gurus who have indeed studied

the Vedas and Scriptures critically and who can share their

understanding with the ignorant souls like me so why not encourage

the diffusion of knowledge rather than smother it?

 

Isn't the purpose of this board is for people like us interact with

the Gurus and with each other and dissipate knowledge? Vedic

astrology is just a small off-shoot of the Vedas, why then should be

limit this board to Astrology only.

 

I think it is refreshing to have an interaction now and then relating

to OTHER avenues of the Vedas, Bhagwad Geeta and Hiduism in general.

 

Respectfully,

MD

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Karen Skoler <nykaren@o...> wrote:

> Dear Siva and others,

>

> It is my suggested that this meat vs. non-meat eating thread be

discontinued because I've seen it happen on other lists where a

sincere question sparks an e-mail war and this is too nice a list to

let that happen.

>

> I live in the US and don't have a problem finding vegetarian

prepared food. You can e-mail me privately if you'd like some

suggestions.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Karen

> karen108@o...

> -

> schinnas

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, September 25, 2002 3:50 PM

> [vedic astrology] To monmuk about Hindus not eating meat.

>

>

> >I couldn't find any

> >authoritative scripture that clearly says Hindus can't eat meat

or

> >drink alcohol.

>

> Neither could I. Lot of people suggest that vegetarianism was a

> concept introduced into Hinduism due to the influence of Buddism

and

> jainism.

>

> In fact folklore has it that Sages Agastya and Vishwamitra used

to

> eat non-veg food (but not cow). Isnt there a story of some asura

> brothers killing rishis using their non-veg eating habits. The

story

> goes like this - the younger asura will take the form of a goat

and

> his brother (older asura) will offer the goat as food for rishis.

> After rishies consume the goat meat, he will call for his youngre

> brother to come out, which he will from the stomach of the rishi

> killing the rishi. When they tried that trick on Sage Agastya, it

> failed, because Agastya digested the asura in goat form.

>

> I have heard many other stories of Vishwamithra eating meat.

>

> I am trying to give up my non veg habits as Guru Sanjay has asked

> jyotish students to be vegetarians (it is very difficult if you

live

> in USA/west and dont cook).

>

> Will the jyotish and spiritual Gurus enlighten us?

>

> -Siva (Siva Chinnasamy).

>

> PS:

> Due to people confusing me with other Siva who actually knows

> astrology, (unlike me, a beginner) if any of you are referring to

me,

> please use SivaC or Siva Chinnasamy as my name.

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111> wrote:

> > Yes PVR:

> >

> > Let's keep the knowledge that has been passed down to us by the

> Sages

> > PURE. I'm hoping you and Sanjay and others who prescribe to the

> pure

> > form of Vedic Astrology write many more books and leave a

legacy so

> > the next generation of Vedic astrologers like Visti, Hari and

Siva

> > can carry the torch and the next generation of Vedic astrology

> > enthusiats like many of us on the board continue to benefit

from

> the

> > PURE form of knowledge.

> >

> > Pt. Sanjay and Mr.Rohini Ranjan in my opinion are the finest

> writers

> > of Vedic astrology related papers and articles and I'm hoping

both

> > continue to write with regularity.

> >

> > Dr. SP Choudhary's writings are deep, insightfull,

comprehensive

> and

> > appeals to the educated audience; however, I haven't seen too

many

> > articles by him. I'm hoping he finds time to write. Hey Dr.

> > Choudhary, you come across as an older person, please share

your

> > knowledege with others before you get the final call, hopefully

> from

> > heaven.

> >

> > Ok. it's time to go to lunch and once more I'll try to be a

> > vegetarian. I've given up Beef, hopefully someday I'll be able

to

> > give up non-veg and alcohol completely.

> >

> > Learned Gurus: Did Bhagwad Geeta ever say that Hindus should be

> > vegetarians? and that they shouldn't drink alcohol? I gave up

Beef

> > solely because cow is holy for Hindus. But, I couldn't find any

> > authoritative scripture that clearly says Hindus can't eat meat

or

> > drink alcohol.

> >

> > MD

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...>

> wrote:

> > > Dear M. Desai,

> > >

> > > > MD response: Yes, indeed in my wife chart, moon is in the

4th

> and

> > has

> > > > an aspect of Sa, Ra, Ma, Me so it is afflicted. Lord of

the

> 4th

> > and

> > > > 1st is Jupiter located in 3rd house in Aquarius-I don't

know if

> > this

> > > > is called Maran karaka sthan. Your prediction of

affliction of

> > the

> > >

> > > Yes, the 3rd house is the marana karaka sthana for Jupiter.

Here

> > are the

> > > marana karaka sthanas again for easy reference:

> > >

> > > Sun: 12th house

> > > Moon: 8th house

> > > Mars: 7th house

> > > Mercury: 7th house

> > > Jupiter: 3rd house

> > > Venus: 6th house

> > > Saturn: 1st house

> > > Rahu: 9th house

> > >

> > > > PVR wrote: "Vi-Ta antardasa in

> > > > March 14-June 14, 2002 brought this marriage (note Ta's

aspect

> on

> > > > Li)."

> > > >

> > > > MD response: Yes, my 3rd marriage was indeed between the

period

> > you

> > > > noted. Prediction is 100% correct.

> > >

> > > This wasn't a prediction. You told me in a previous private

mail

> > when you

> > > got married for the 3rd time. I was just explaining its

timing.

> > >

> > > > PVR, you're are a true guru. What intrigues me is that how

can

> you

> > > > predict stuff about my wife (that too 3rd) from MY CHART?

And

> all

> > of

> > > > these prediction about a wife from a husbands chart is

accurate-

> > you

> > >

> > > It makes no difference whether she is the 1st wife or the

3rd. As

> > long as we

> > > identify her lagna correctly in your navamsa chart and find

the

> > > corresponding Narayana dasa accurately, good predictions can

be

> > made for the

> > > 1st wife as well as the 3rd wife. It is the greatness of

Creator

> > that he

> > > creates all of us with so much interdependency in destinies

and

> > charts.

> > >

> > > Honestly, I am not a big expert in predicting about wives and

> > relations. I

> > > am still learning and correcting my mistakes. I learnt a lot

of

> > things from

> > > classics long back, but forgot them because I thought they

> weren't

> > working.

> > > When I spent a couple of weeks with Sanjay during his latest

USA

> > visit, I

> > > realized that the fault was in my application. Now I am re-

> learning

> > all the

> > > principles given in classics, because now I know that they

work

> > when applied

> > > properly.

> > >

> > > Predicting about wife is nothing. You can predict a lot more

> > things. You

> > > should've seen Sanjay in action!

> > >

> > > You can predict about siblings, spouses of siblings, in-laws

of

> > siblings etc

> > > with reasonable accuracy. If the birthtime is accurate, you

can

> > even guess

> > > the past life with reasonable accuracy. We saw Sanjay giving

past

> > life

> > > readings that matched nadi readings! Just a couple of days

back,

> I

> > was

> > > verifying my rectification of a lady's chart and asked her

just

> > based on her

> > > D-60 if she was afraid of heights. I rectified other vargas

and,

> if

> > D-60 was

> > > accurate, she would've died falling from a height in a

vehicle in

> > last life

> > > (Venus in Dhanus). That should give a fear of heights in this

> life.

> > When I

> > > said it, she immediately confirmed that she was very very

scared

> of

> > heights.

> > > Not only that, whenever she goes in a car on a bridge or a

hill,

> > she said

> > > she always starts thinking about what happens if the car

falls

> > down. She

> > > says she just cannot suppress those thoughts. All that must

be

> from

> > her past

> > > life death.

> > >

> > > There is a lot to the chart. Some people corrupt the

traditional

> > knowledge

> > > with ill-considered researches and make things difficult for

the

> > next

> > > generations. Some other people like Pt. Sanjay Rath are

sincerely

> > striving

> > > to save the traditional knowledge and keep it pure. If we

join

> > hands with

> > > the people of the second category, astrology has a bright

future.

> > >

> > > > have never seen my wife's chart before making this

prediction.

> > Thanks

> > > > for everything, hope you keep helping people for many more

> years

> > to

> > > > come.

> > > >

> > > > MD

> > >

> > > You are welcome and thank you for your nice wishes.

> > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > Narasimha

>

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