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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Rajinder,

 

Your english is a strain to my eyes and my mind. Please do a

grammatical check so that we understand your view point better.

Atleast i have no idea what you are getting at.

 

Regds

 

Hari

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Rajinder Nath <jinderman> wrote:

> >

> > dear learned member,

> i am not against or in favour of astrology i think

> only calculative part indicate pattren of thought

> of native but no one for sure predict the future

> timeing of event in ones life 100%so if one go to

> astrologer get all feed into fear and nagativety does

> astrologer play any role in to making a person worse

> or not.tomorrow remain uncertain for ever.

>

>

> is it true where a predictive astrology fail some

> yoga take place and so many have different chart

> and during pralaye all vanish for some reason or

> other.

> so basic truth is even our curiosity make us to look

> into

> future tru astrology still it did not change much of

> the outcome we have to go tru what is in our lot.

> of course as any system there has to be some motive

> to start a system some wise would have wise motive and

>

> greedy will have a srong will to use less strong will

> people and they might even take the shelter of wise

> system look what happen to religion teach us to love

> each other.

> just like medicine work so is suuggestion that a

> famous doctor gave you best prescription and might

> work on

> your week mind and fix the symptom.

> so the point is if you go to astrologer any good and

> bad advice could play part on your being and may be

> sage has looked into tendancy indicated by some

> combination of planet on one chart into there thougt

> pattern.

> also they said each individull g has a spexcial role

> on this earthn to play and we all could find salvation

> if we had faith in ourselves first.

> sometime ago i looked a instrument in a ship made out

> of spexcial metal it is used in old ship as a

> instrument for communication and when sun shines on it

>

> a point is made like stalite bouncing light back at

> that point it will make heat so strong even stiill

> will melt i forget name of the instrument .

> so it is posible if sun light refelect on our

> personenl chart like differwent degree of othe o

> planet so onm we get burned by thoses same aspect .

> point i want to make is waht ever is wriiten or done

> is

> myth as sage say life is dream and why we want to know

> what will be in our dream let it come as it please.

> there was a beutiful poem by kabir sent by one of

> reader peteR richard

> moksa neti neti

> .awareness alone will overcome illusion

> rajinder

> ``

>

>

>

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Don't put your Taurus where your Scorpio is, mate. It's all I can say.

 

Ramapriya

 

-

"Rajinder Nath" <jinderman

<vedic astrology>

Cc: <satyaprakasika

Saturday, September 28, 2002 8:11 AM

[vedic astrology] bhu mritu yoga

 

 

> >

> > dear learned member,

> i am not against or in favour of astrology i think

> only calculative part indicate pattren of thought

> of native but no one for sure predict the future

> timeing of event in ones life 100%so if one go to

> astrologer get all feed into fear and nagativety does

> astrologer play any role in to making a person worse

> or not.tomorrow remain uncertain for ever.

>

>

> is it true where a predictive astrology fail some

> yoga take place and so many have different chart

> and during pralaye all vanish for some reason or

> other.

> so basic truth is even our curiosity make us to look

> into

> future tru astrology still it did not change much of

> the outcome we have to go tru what is in our lot.

> of course as any system there has to be some motive

> to start a system some wise would have wise motive and

>

> greedy will have a srong will to use less strong will

> people and they might even take the shelter of wise

> system look what happen to religion teach us to love

> each other.

> just like medicine work so is suuggestion that a

> famous doctor gave you best prescription and might

> work on

> your week mind and fix the symptom.

> so the point is if you go to astrologer any good and

> bad advice could play part on your being and may be

> sage has looked into tendancy indicated by some

> combination of planet on one chart into there thougt

> pattern.

> also they said each individull g has a spexcial role

> on this earthn to play and we all could find salvation

> if we had faith in ourselves first.

> sometime ago i looked a instrument in a ship made out

> of spexcial metal it is used in old ship as a

> instrument for communication and when sun shines on it

>

> a point is made like stalite bouncing light back at

> that point it will make heat so strong even stiill

> will melt i forget name of the instrument .

> so it is posible if sun light refelect on our

> personenl chart like differwent degree of othe o

> planet so onm we get burned by thoses same aspect .

> point i want to make is waht ever is wriiten or done

> is

> myth as sage say life is dream and why we want to know

> what will be in our dream let it come as it please.

> there was a beutiful poem by kabir sent by one of

> reader peteR richard

> moksa neti neti

> .awareness alone will overcome illusion

> rajinder

> ``

>

>

>

>

>

> New DSL Internet Access from SBC &

> http://sbc.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

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Om Krishna Guru

============

 

Dear Hari and friends,

 

While it is true that Rajinder's email *really* was a strain, as you

have pointed out, what Rajinder was trying to say was surmised [by me]

to be the following:

 

1) That Rajinder is not in favor or against astrology, as he believes

that if anyone goes to an astrologer for prediction, remedy, etc., it

may or may not help the person [actually I think he tried to say that it

may make the person worst with fear and/or negativity].

 

2) Rajinder also thinks [i believe] that no one can foresee the future

with absolute prediction [with or without Jyotish], as even with the aid

of these [or lack of it], the future remains uncertain [perhaps due to

doubt or suspicion ???].

 

3) Rajinder thinks [or believes] that even with accurate predictive

astrology [here I think Rajinder is just being unbiased and not

attacking Vedic Jyotish, as he does seem to give credit to predictive

astrology], when the outcome [for event, person] is different; compared

to what was predicted, there *may* be a special yoga which affected the

outcome.

 

He talks about disappearances [i am not sure who disappears] during

Pralaya [a Sanskrit word that may mean flood, destruction, etc. for a

region or for whole --- correct me on this Sanskrit term as it is vague

in my mind] and that remains unexplained [for him].

 

--Note to Rajinder:

 

Dear Rajinder, even Brahma [the creator himself] will perish and will be

replaced by another Brahma, so don't take misfortune, destruction and

negativity seriously :-)

 

End note--

 

4) In his later examples of diagnosis by a celebrated doctor/surgeon

[as opposed to say an intern] may or may not help the patient [perhaps

he is trying to focus on the psychological implications that may affect

the cure or whatever].

 

5) In his yet later example of old navigational equipment that reflected

Sun's rays for some distant communication, he is [perhaps] trying to

emphasize that too much power, knowledge, bla bla bla, is not good in

the long run [this he equates with Sun burning and melting the metal of

the navigational equipment that was itself designed to use Sun's rays to

communicate -- and thus render the equipment dysfunctional].

 

I think, he is trying to say that "nothing is more spectacular than to

see the failure of spectacular success".

 

6) As a summary of his message, he seems to be pointing at Sages and the

ancient Vedic Scriptures [or for that matter even Buddhism; that is

similar], who remind us that life is but a dream [and therefore,

Rajinder is perhaps emphasizing Maya that we all have].

 

Rajinder is further pointing to awareness and comparing it with dreams.

In fact, Rajinder has used a very beautiful simile of our life with dreams.

 

He contends that we do not *plan* our dreams [and I am not sure if we

really can. Perhaps one way to have good dreams would be to think about

or meditate with focus on God before sleep], and the dreams *just* flow

through in our sleep.

 

I think, he is trying to say that we should accept what comes in our

life [with or without knowing the future] and gain awareness by whatever

[lessons] we learn.

 

Finally, I think Rajinder is ALSO pointing towards Moksha, as everyone

should, for final liberation.

 

Now on to my personal message with regards to above:

 

1) I merely interpreted and to a certain extent tried to translate what

*I thought Rajinder's message conveyed*.

2) I could be wrong [even totally wrong] in understanding whatever

Rajinder was trying to say.

3) I personally do not think Rajinder was attacking Jyotish or anyone at

this group [or rather in broad terms - religion, race, thought patterns,

etc.].

4) I personally think Rajinder *tried* to put some beautiful thoughts in

his email [though I am not sure what prompted him to compose the email].

5) Finally, Rajinder tried to promote Moksha, that in itself is a very

good part of his message, as that is WHAT we are here to learn from

Gurudeva and Gurujis at this and other venues.

 

Well... On a further thought, I think Rajinder's email is not exactly

related to Jyotish, therefore, Rajinder, I think it would be better to

drop this thread or just discuss such views via private email with those

who are interested.

 

A kind request to all members :

 

Not everyone is proficient with languages and of course not everyone's

Mercury would be similar in all charts. I believe we must have empathy

for our differences.

 

Many thanks in advance.

 

With that... please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever

and you all take care too. Have a nice weekend :-)

 

Om Namo Narayana

==============

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Ron Bach a.k.a. GlobeTrekker

 

hari_aditya108 wrote:

 

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Dear Rajinder,

>

> Your english is a strain to my eyes and my mind. Please do a

> grammatical check so that we understand your view point better.

> Atleast i have no idea what you are getting at.

>

> Regds

>

> Hari

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, Rajinder Nath <jinderman> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear learned member,

> > i am not against or in favour of astrology i think

> > only calculative part indicate pattren of thought

> > of native but no one for sure predict the future

> > timeing of event in ones life 100%so if one go to

> > astrologer get all feed into fear and nagativety does

> > astrologer play any role in to making a person worse

> > or not.tomorrow remain uncertain for ever.

> >

> >

> > is it true where a predictive astrology fail some

> > yoga take place and so many have different chart

> > and during pralaye all vanish for some reason or

> > other.

> > so basic truth is even our curiosity make us to look

> > into

> > future tru astrology still it did not change much of

> > the outcome we have to go tru what is in our lot.

> > of course as any system there has to be some motive

> > to start a system some wise would have wise motive and

> >

> > greedy will have a srong will to use less strong will

> > people and they might even take the shelter of wise

> > system look what happen to religion teach us to love

> > each other.

> > just like medicine work so is suuggestion that a

> > famous doctor gave you best prescription and might

> > work on

> > your week mind and fix the symptom.

> > so the point is if you go to astrologer any good and

> > bad advice could play part on your being and may be

> > sage has looked into tendancy indicated by some

> > combination of planet on one chart into there thougt

> > pattern.

> > also they said each individull g has a spexcial role

> > on this earthn to play and we all could find salvation

> > if we had faith in ourselves first.

> > sometime ago i looked a instrument in a ship made out

> > of spexcial metal it is used in old ship as a

> > instrument for communication and when sun shines on it

> >

> > a point is made like stalite bouncing light back at

> > that point it will make heat so strong even stiill

> > will melt i forget name of the instrument .

> > so it is posible if sun light refelect on our

> > personenl chart like differwent degree of othe o

> > planet so onm we get burned by thoses same aspect .

> > point i want to make is waht ever is wriiten or done

> > is

> > myth as sage say life is dream and why we want to know

> > what will be in our dream let it come as it please.

> > there was a beutiful poem by kabir sent by one of

> > reader peteR richard

> > moksa neti neti

> > .awareness alone will overcome illusion

> > rajinder

> > ``

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dear hari bhai,

i will tri to improve my grammer it is like i am

speaking and word does not come back to to my mouth

stay there. and rarely check what ever i posted.

sorry, in future i will look what i have written.

and rampriya message always want me to be in his

friend circle and some one i want to talk is silence

perhaps

he is looking language of myth spoken by sage to

convince me predictive astrology is also science.

thanks the one who out my scatterd thought grab

the idea that astrology basic purpose is to point to

us our real self which is beyound the effect of

planet.

this could creat satyuga again on the earth if

astrology leave the non essential part of day by day

effect of planet on our desire for material life and

point us to the unity of the universe.hopefully we all

cuold leave this world smiling moksha for sometime.

that is the purpose of this creation by brahma.

ramana maharishi once explain frog stay near the

lotus flower and never know the secret to get best

part of it and bee comes from for away and sucks the

most sweet part of it.

and my friend ramapriya taurus and scorpio is always

there you have to widen your out look.

one is secretive hidden other outspoken and visible

but is both out there in the same circle.

one time swami vivekanand said god is like circle

whoes

center is everywhere and outer circle has no

boundries.some one pointed inherited trait and

astrology i think yes astrology could guide us to

lift ourself from genetic code to freedom and path

will be man know thyself.

i could predict for certainity we all going to die

and no one ever go to astrologer find accurate timing

of this wonderful event why becuse we love to keep on

crying and best place to cry is this planet once we

leave this planet smiling only than we can assume

the man has blissful life and in bliss ful state there

after.

should we not believe in anything till we know it.

pray to all 9 planet there harmony out there keep

peace on this earth in all direction .

rajinder

 

 

--- Ramapriya D <hubli wrote:

> Don't put your Taurus where your Scorpio is, mate.

> It's all I can say.

>

> Ramapriya

>

> -

> "Rajinder Nath" <jinderman

> <vedic astrology>

> Cc: <satyaprakasika

> Saturday, September 28, 2002 8:11 AM

> [vedic astrology] bhu mritu yoga

>

>

> > >

> > > dear learned member,

> > i am not against or in favour of astrology i think

> > only calculative part indicate pattren of thought

> > of native but no one for sure predict the future

> > timeing of event in ones life 100%so if one go to

> > astrologer get all feed into fear and nagativety

> does

> > astrologer play any role in to making a person

> worse

> > or not.tomorrow remain uncertain for ever.

> >

> >

> > is it true where a predictive astrology fail some

> > yoga take place and so many have different chart

> > and during pralaye all vanish for some reason or

> > other.

> > so basic truth is even our curiosity make us to

> look

> > into

> > future tru astrology still it did not change much

> of

> > the outcome we have to go tru what is in our lot.

> > of course as any system there has to be some

> motive

> > to start a system some wise would have wise motive

> and

> >

> > greedy will have a srong will to use less strong

> will

> > people and they might even take the shelter of

> wise

> > system look what happen to religion teach us to

> love

> > each other.

> > just like medicine work so is suuggestion that a

> > famous doctor gave you best prescription and might

> > work on

> > your week mind and fix the symptom.

> > so the point is if you go to astrologer any good

> and

> > bad advice could play part on your being and may

> be

> > sage has looked into tendancy indicated by some

> > combination of planet on one chart into there

> thougt

> > pattern.

> > also they said each individull g has a spexcial

> role

> > on this earthn to play and we all could find

> salvation

> > if we had faith in ourselves first.

> > sometime ago i looked a instrument in a ship made

> out

> > of spexcial metal it is used in old ship as a

> > instrument for communication and when sun shines

> on it

> >

> > a point is made like stalite bouncing light back

> at

> > that point it will make heat so strong even stiill

> > will melt i forget name of the instrument .

> > so it is posible if sun light refelect on our

> > personenl chart like differwent degree of othe o

> > planet so onm we get burned by thoses same aspect

> .

> > point i want to make is waht ever is wriiten or

> done

> > is

> > myth as sage say life is dream and why we want to

> know

> > what will be in our dream let it come as it

> please.

> > there was a beutiful poem by kabir sent by one of

> > reader peteR richard

> > moksa neti neti

> > .awareness alone will overcome illusion

> > rajinder

> > ``

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > New DSL Internet Access from SBC &

> > http://sbc.

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