SJVC Site - Hacked?

September 28, 2002

Dear Group members,Jaya Jagannatha!After fallacious writings of Robert Koch that

I have hacked SJVCUSA.ORG web site and so many other untrue things, again I

have no option other than to defend myself. Robert Koch has been intentionally

harassing myself for quite some time now and simply said I am really sick and

tired of his lies and if he continues like this I will have no other choice but

to take legal action against him.To remind all of you SJVC-USA has been formed

on explicit order/desire of Sanjay Rath and most of the work in registering

SJVC-USA as an religious non-profit organization was done by Kusa devi. Many of

you have ordered Sanjay's books and Sanjay's tapes that Kusa made available to

interested audience and of course all the profits of that have gone to SJVC-USA

account (unlike money collected by Laxmi (Lynne Kary) and Brendan for

conferences, books and tapes that has gone to their personal accounts and is

still today unaccounted for, so if you are ordering something from laxmi know

that you are cheated).Simultaneously SJVC-USA has been incorporated as

non-profit corporation in the state of New Jersey with it's bank account and

all other legalities and was operating and still is operating without any

problems. The 3 trustees or directors of the SJVC-USA as per Sanjay Rath's

agreement are: Sruta Kirti Das (Director), myself (Dinanatha Das - Secretary)

and Brenda Bon (Kusa's friend who agreed to be trustee for legal purposes while

Kusa was acting as a Treasurer). All of this started in 1999 when most of you

have never even heard of SJVC and SJVC-USA. When the organization was

incorporated a web site www.SJVCUSA.org has also been started and maintained

mainly by Sanjay Rath. I registered the domain name and web site and initial

payment for web site was done by Narasimha Rao and all subsequent payment were

borne by myself. SJVC-USA has been incorporated in New Jersey with address:

1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. Same information was presented to

IRS (Internal Revenue Service) who was actually checking our web site to see if

we are differing from the rules govern by non-profit organizations.

www.SJVCUSA.org was never meant to be a web site of any other organisation than

SJVC-USA registered in New Jersey with office at: 1504 Riverton Road,

Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. So by accusing me that I hacked www.sjvcusa.org web

site because I included valid legal information about SJVC-USA organization on

the web site of the same organization, Robert openly admits that he hacked

www.sjvcusa.org site and thus he is risking legal action and damages

compensation claim against himself for unauthorized access to www.sjvcusa.org,

presenting false and misleading information on the same site and unauthorized

use of registered corporate name SJVC-USA. Personal legal actions and damage

compensation claims against Robert by damaged trustees/directors of SJVC-USA

(positions that Robert was unlawfully claiming for himself and others) are also

likely to follow.In recent past Sanjay Rath wanted to change the SJVC-USA

trustees and appoint Robert, Brendan and Laxmi instead of original trustees

mentioned above. After presenting the matter to our lawyer and consulting him

he advised us that it would be very harmful for a religious non-profit

organization to do as Sanjay proposed. Our lawyer made several points:1. Change

of all trustees with new ones is not welcome in the eyes of IRS, adding trustees

instead is advisable2. Proposed head of organization (in this case Robert Koch)

is working directly against the principles of SJVC and thus endangering the

legal and non-profit status of SJVC. In the bylaws of SJVC is stated that SJVC

is meant for free propagation of Jyotish knowledge (while Robert is charging for

teaching) and also by definition a non-profit organization is not meant for a

personal gain of any one individual (Robert is for many years using position of

SJVC Guru to attract new clients and students and thus benefiting from his

position in SJVC, you can still see this on his web site:

http://robertkoch.com/robert.html and you can imagine what would happened if he

would be legally in charge for SJVC-USA)3. Other proposed trustee Laxmi (Lynne

Kary) to start with lied to Sanjay to get admission to SJVC and also has been

involved with drugs and weapons smugglers (one of them was her ex-husband:

Hansaduta Swami which was sentenced to jail for many years because of illegal

use of drugs and weapons and smuggling of the same

Sanjay was also informed about this on several occasions by myself and Kusa devi

and than he made a decision that Robert, Brendan and Laxmi can form their own

organization independent from existing SJVC-USA registered in NJ and that has

registered office at: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077

Above 3 points, as mentioned by our lawyer, especially after 9/11 when it was

discovered and determined by IRS that many Islamic charities in the USA were

using their non-profit status to collect charity and than they were sending

that charity to fund radical Islamic militant organizations (including

Al-Queda) would deeply risk our non-profit status and could bring to SJVC-USA

many unnecessary legal complications especially because part of SJVC-USA funds

was supposed to go to India to help SJVC in India. As we know many Islamic

militant organizations are present and are becoming increasingly active in

India (which we could witness in recent shooting in Swami Narayan temple in

Gandhi Nagar). Seeing the history of some of the proposed trustees our lawyer

couldn't say anything else than what he mentioned in above points and conclude

that persons like Laxmi and Robert are totally legally unfit to be trustees of

SJVC.

Knowing that Laxmi is another drop out from ISKCON like Robert it is easy to see

that spiritually are not much more fit than what they are legally to be part of

SJVC.The only person from proposed 3 names that could be fit as additional SJVC

trustees was Brendan, who seems to be nice guy but deeply mislead by Robert and

Laxmi. In 1999 Sanjay has asked Robert to become Jyotish Guru which former

declined on the grounds that because he is charging (meaning ripping off) his

students for Jyotish lessons he cannot do it and that because he is busy with

doing charts for his clients he has no time for involvement in SJVC. Sanjay

replied saying that SJVC Guru assignment is for life and not temporary and in

the future if he wants he can take up that role (which didn't have to wait for

long after Robert realized that being SJVC Guru is not so bad and generates

more clients to be ripped off) This is how our Robert become SJVC Guru.

Starting from that time Sanjay was warning him that he actually cannot be SJVC

Guru and at the same time charge for teaching which was doing and Robert was

quite proudly defying that warning of Sanjay.But how Robert who was initiated

by Srila Prabhupada came into that pitiful condition that he just didn't care

for orders and principle of any of his Gurus? While living in the ISKCON temple

in India our Robert has learned little bit of Jyotish and understood that this

could be quite good business on the West especially in the places like USA and

he simply moved to USA and started his own business: Jyotish consultations and

lessons. While for the consultations traditionally (if we follow the parampara

which he obviously didn't even dream of) he could accept donations while

teaching was supposed to be free. Of course, why would he? After dropping out

from ISKCON he was quite free to break all the rules and principles of Gurus

and parampara. So first he betrayed his first Guru Srila Prabhupada and than he

didn't want to follow the order of the second guru. This type of behavior in

Vedic culture is regarded as unchaste just like when woman at the time of

marriage gives vows and than she stops following them and jumps to some other

man.Similarly Robert at the time of initiation by Srila Prabhupada has given

him lifetime vows which he is not following for many, many years. On the other

hand whenever someone mentions this to Robert he just becomes uncontrollably

mad and angry at that person that he cannot control himself, as you could see

from his last letter where he was accusing me that I hacked SJVC's web site. As

you can see Robert has all the "good" qualities of Guru and spiritual leader. He

was always a looser and will continue to be one.

To conclude only legal SJVC-USA organization in the USA is the one incorporated

in the state of New Jersey (and there is no other), has registered office at:

1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. Again, there is no other SJVC-USA

like Robert & Co. are claiming, they are simply misleading you and lying to

you.

Any unauthorized use of SJVC-USA corporate name, it's web site

(www.sjvcusa.org), collections and fund raising done in the name of SJVC-USA by

unauthorized persons are legally punishable and offenders will be legally

prosecuted to the maximum possible extent.

I am sorry that I have to act like this, but after tolerating long lasting

misconduct of Robert Koch as so called SJVC Guru, constant unauthorized use

(hacking) of www.sjvcusa.org and giving false and misleading information on the

same web site, constant hassle and lies that he was spreading about SJVC and

myself personally, I had to resort to this step because someone has to put

Robert in his place.

Hare Krishna,

Dinanatha Das (SJVC-USA Secretary)

.. - Robert A. Koch sjvc Cc:

Achyuta ; varahamihira ;

vedic astrology Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:22

PM[Hare Rama Krishna] Re: [sjvc] SJVC Site - Hacked?Om Namo Bhagavate

Vasudevaya~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Dear Jyotish gurus and sisyas,Narayan Iyer

has written as follows:>Om Jaya Jagganath>----------------->>Namaste

Friends,>>It appears to me that the contents of the following

link>http://www.sjvcusa.org/org/organisation.htm>>has been hacked.>>I am also

pretty sure who was behind all this. Robert & Brendan's>name have been removed

and instead Dinanatha's name is replaced.>Hope this situation is rectified

immediately.>>Regards>NarayanNarayan, you are absolutely correct. The removal

of myself, Brendan, and Laksmi is indeed part of the insidious workings of

Dina-natha. For those who may not know the history, let me provide a brief

summary: Dina-natha had been removed from any spiritual, instructing, or

administrative duties in SJVC, due to continuous and reckless verbal offenses

committed to not just myself, but Brendan, Laksmi, and even Sanjay. He had

been given numerous warnings, and encouragement to "bury the ax", to try to

diffuse his unreasonable and unconscionable anger, and learn how to work

cooperatively. Still, he ignored these requests and continued to launch a

self-determined assault on all those who had been personally hand-picked by

Sanjay to head the SJVC in north and south Americas. Why he has chosen to

embark on this hurtful and destructive path, only Lord Sri Jagannatha

Mahaprabhu knows the answer.Let all be advised, that Dina-natha has no standing

whatsoever in SJVC-USA. His reprehensible activities of hacking into and

dismembering the SJVC site should be ignored, while in the meantime, we shall

look into the technical side of this matter further. No one shall give

donations of any kind in the name of SJVC to Dina-natha, nor is he to be given

any regard as a prior member of this organization, nor should anybody pay

attention to what he says. His mindless and delusional activities shall be

ignored. If anybody has any doubts as to the true intent of Sri Sanjay Rath

in these matters, then he/she may contact him directly.In the service of

Jyotir-vidya,Robert~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Robert A. Koch, Vedic

AstrologerFaculty Member, SJVC and ACVAvisit <http://www.robertkoch.com>

and,http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com orPh: 541.318.0248

September 28, 2002

I am really confused. What's going on in SJVC-USA?

Maya

vedic astrology, "Dinanatha Das" <vedic@s...> wrote:

> Dear Group members,

>

> Jaya Jagannatha!

>

> After fallacious writings of Robert Koch that I have hacked

SJVCUSA.ORG web site and so many other untrue things, again I have

no option other than to defend myself. Robert Koch has been

intentionally harassing myself for quite some time now and simply

said I am really sick and tired of his lies and if he continues like

this I will have no other choice but to take legal action against him.

>

> To remind all of you SJVC-USA has been formed on explicit

order/desire of Sanjay Rath and most of the work in registering SJVC-

USA as an religious non-profit organization was done by Kusa devi.

Many of you have ordered Sanjay's books and Sanjay's tapes that Kusa

made available to interested audience and of course all the profits

of that have gone to SJVC-USA account (unlike money collected by

Laxmi (Lynne Kary) and Brendan for conferences, books and tapes that

has gone to their personal accounts and is still today unaccounted

for, so if you are ordering something from laxmi know that you are

cheated).

>

> Simultaneously SJVC-USA has been incorporated as non-profit

corporation in the state of New Jersey with it's bank account and all

other legalities and was operating and still is operating without any

problems. The 3 trustees or directors of the SJVC-USA as per Sanjay

Rath's agreement are: Sruta Kirti Das (Director), myself (Dinanatha

Das - Secretary) and Brenda Bon (Kusa's friend who agreed to be

trustee for legal purposes while Kusa was acting as a Treasurer). All

of this started in 1999 when most of you have never even heard of

SJVC and SJVC-USA. When the organization was incorporated a web site

www.SJVCUSA.org has also been started and maintained mainly by Sanjay

Rath. I registered the domain name and web site and initial payment

for web site was done by Narasimha Rao and all subsequent payment

were borne by myself. SJVC-USA has been incorporated in New Jersey

with address: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. Same

information was presented to IRS (Internal Revenue Service) who was

actually checking our web site to see if we are differing from the

rules govern by non-profit organizations.

> www.SJVCUSA.org was never meant to be a web site of any other

organisation than SJVC-USA registered in New Jersey with office at:

1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. So by accusing me that I

hacked www.sjvcusa.org web site because I included valid legal

information about SJVC-USA organization on the web site of the same

organization, Robert openly admits that he hacked www.sjvcusa.org

site and thus he is risking legal action and damages compensation

claim against himself for unauthorized access to www.sjvcusa.org,

presenting false and misleading information on the same site and

unauthorized use of registered corporate name SJVC-USA. Personal

legal actions and damage compensation claims against Robert by

damaged trustees/directors of SJVC-USA (positions that Robert was

unlawfully claiming for himself and others) are also likely to follow.

>

> In recent past Sanjay Rath wanted to change the SJVC-USA trustees

and appoint Robert, Brendan and Laxmi instead of original trustees

mentioned above. After presenting the matter to our lawyer and

consulting him he advised us that it would be very harmful for a

religious non-profit organization to do as Sanjay proposed. Our

lawyer made several points:

>

> 1. Change of all trustees with new ones is not welcome in the eyes

of IRS, adding trustees instead is advisable

> 2. Proposed head of organization (in this case Robert Koch) is

working directly against the principles of SJVC and thus endangering

the legal and non-profit status of SJVC. In the bylaws of SJVC is

stated that SJVC is meant for free propagation of Jyotish knowledge

(while Robert is charging for teaching) and also by definition a non-

profit organization is not meant for a personal gain of any one

individual (Robert is for many years using position of SJVC Guru to

attract new clients and students and thus benefiting from his

position in SJVC, you can still see this on his web site:

http://robertkoch.com/robert.html and you can imagine what would

happened if he would be legally in charge for SJVC-USA)

> 3. Other proposed trustee Laxmi (Lynne Kary) to start with lied to

Sanjay to get admission to SJVC and also has been involved with drugs

and weapons smugglers (one of them was her ex-husband: Hansaduta

Swami which was sentenced to jail for many years because of illegal

use of drugs and weapons and smuggling of the same

>

> Sanjay was also informed about this on several occasions by myself

and Kusa devi and than he made a decision that Robert, Brendan and

Laxmi can form their own organization independent from existing SJVC-

USA registered in NJ and that has registered office at: 1504 Riverton

Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077

>

> Above 3 points, as mentioned by our lawyer, especially after 9/11

when it was discovered and determined by IRS that many Islamic

charities in the USA were using their non-profit status to collect

charity and than they were sending that charity to fund radical

Islamic militant organizations (including Al-Queda) would deeply risk

our non-profit status and could bring to SJVC-USA many unnecessary

legal complications especially because part of SJVC-USA funds was

supposed to go to India to help SJVC in India. As we know many

Islamic militant organizations are present and are becoming

increasingly active in India (which we could witness in recent

shooting in Swami Narayan temple in Gandhi Nagar). Seeing the history

of some of the proposed trustees our lawyer couldn't say anything

else than what he mentioned in above points and conclude that persons

like Laxmi and Robert are totally legally unfit to be trustees of

SJVC.

>

> Knowing that Laxmi is another drop out from ISKCON like Robert it

is easy to see that spiritually are not much more fit than what they

are legally to be part of SJVC.

>

> The only person from proposed 3 names that could be fit as

additional SJVC trustees was Brendan, who seems to be nice guy but

deeply mislead by Robert and Laxmi.

>

> In 1999 Sanjay has asked Robert to become Jyotish Guru which former

declined on the grounds that because he is charging (meaning ripping

off) his students for Jyotish lessons he cannot do it and that

because he is busy with doing charts for his clients he has no time

for involvement in SJVC. Sanjay replied saying that SJVC Guru

assignment is for life and not temporary and in the future if he

wants he can take up that role (which didn't have to wait for long

after Robert realized that being SJVC Guru is not so bad and

generates more clients to be ripped off) This is how our Robert

become SJVC Guru. Starting from that time Sanjay was warning him that

he actually cannot be SJVC Guru and at the same time charge for

teaching which was doing and Robert was quite proudly defying that

warning of Sanjay.

> But how Robert who was initiated by Srila Prabhupada came into that

pitiful condition that he just didn't care for orders and principle

of any of his Gurus? While living in the ISKCON temple in India our

Robert has learned little bit of Jyotish and understood that this

could be quite good business on the West especially in the places

like USA and he simply moved to USA and started his own business:

Jyotish consultations and lessons. While for the consultations

traditionally (if we follow the parampara which he obviously didn't

even dream of) he could accept donations while teaching was supposed

to be free. Of course, why would he? After dropping out from ISKCON

he was quite free to break all the rules and principles of Gurus and

parampara. So first he betrayed his first Guru Srila Prabhupada and

than he didn't want to follow the order of the second guru. This type

of behavior in Vedic culture is regarded as unchaste just like when

woman at the time of marriage gives vows and than she stops following

them and jumps to some other man.Similarly Robert at the time of

initiation by Srila Prabhupada has given him lifetime vows which he

is not following for many, many years. On the other hand whenever

someone mentions this to Robert he just becomes uncontrollably mad

and angry at that person that he cannot control himself, as you could

see from his last letter where he was accusing me that I hacked

SJVC's web site. As you can see Robert has all the "good" qualities

of Guru and spiritual leader. He was always a looser and will

continue to be one.

>

> To conclude only legal SJVC-USA organization in the USA is the one

incorporated in the state of New Jersey (and there is no other), has

registered office at: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077.

Again, there is no other SJVC-USA like Robert & Co. are claiming,

they are simply misleading you and lying to you.

> Any unauthorized use of SJVC-USA corporate name, it's web site

(www.sjvcusa.org), collections and fund raising done in the name of

SJVC-USA by unauthorized persons are legally punishable and offenders

will be legally prosecuted to the maximum possible extent.

>

> I am sorry that I have to act like this, but after tolerating long

lasting misconduct of Robert Koch as so called SJVC Guru, constant

unauthorized use (hacking) of www.sjvcusa.org and giving false and

misleading information on the same web site, constant hassle and lies

that he was spreading about SJVC and myself personally, I had to

resort to this step because someone has to put Robert in his place.

>

> Hare Krishna,

> Dinanatha Das (SJVC-USA Secretary)

.

-

> Robert A. Koch

> sjvc

> Cc: Achyuta ; varahamihira ; vedic astrology

> Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:22 PM

> [Hare Rama Krishna] Re: [sjvc] SJVC Site - Hacked?

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> Dear Jyotish gurus and sisyas,

>

> Narayan Iyer has written as follows:

>

> >Om Jaya Jagganath

> >-----------------

> >

> >Namaste Friends,

> >

> >It appears to me that the contents of the following link

> >http://www.sjvcusa.org/org/organisation.htm

> >

> >has been hacked.

> >

> >I am also pretty sure who was behind all this. Robert & Brendan's

> >name have been removed and instead Dinanatha's name is replaced.

> >Hope this situation is rectified immediately.

> >

> >Regards

> >Narayan

>

> Narayan, you are absolutely correct. The removal of myself,

Brendan, and

> Laksmi is indeed part of the insidious workings of Dina-natha.

For those

> who may not know the history, let me provide a brief summary: Dina-

natha

> had been removed from any spiritual, instructing, or administrative

duties

> in SJVC, due to continuous and reckless verbal offenses committed

to not

> just myself, but Brendan, Laksmi, and even Sanjay. He had been

given

> numerous warnings, and encouragement to "bury the ax", to try to

diffuse

> his unreasonable and unconscionable anger, and learn how to work

> cooperatively. Still, he ignored these requests and continued to

launch a

> self-determined assault on all those who had been personally hand-

picked by

> Sanjay to head the SJVC in north and south Americas. Why he has

chosen to

> embark on this hurtful and destructive path, only Lord Sri

Jagannatha

> Mahaprabhu knows the answer.

>

> Let all be advised, that Dina-natha has no standing whatsoever in

> SJVC-USA. His reprehensible activities of hacking into and

dismembering

> the SJVC site should be ignored, while in the meantime, we shall

look into

> the technical side of this matter further. No one shall give

donations of

> any kind in the name of SJVC to Dina-natha, nor is he to be given

any

> regard as a prior member of this organization, nor should anybody

pay

> attention to what he says. His mindless and delusional activities

shall

> be ignored. If anybody has any doubts as to the true intent of

Sri Sanjay

> Rath in these matters, then he/she may contact him directly.

>

> In the service of Jyotir-vidya,

> Robert

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer

> Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA

> visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> and,

> http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or

> Ph: 541.318.0248

September 28, 2002

Maya,

Just keep your wits, as most of us have done. Matters will resolve themselves,

I'm sure. And don't forget to pray for SJVC.

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

-

mtn2002ca

vedic astrology

Sunday, September 29, 2002 9:04 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: SJVC Site - Hacked?

I am really confused. What's going on in SJVC-USA?Maya--- In

vedic astrology, "Dinanatha Das" <vedic@s...> wrote:> Dear Group members,>

> Jaya Jagannatha!> > After fallacious writings of Robert Koch that I have

hacked SJVCUSA.ORG web site and so many other untrue things, again I have no

option other than to defend myself. Robert Koch has been intentionally

harassing myself for quite some time now and simply said I am really sick and

tired of his lies and if he continues like this I will have no other choice but

to take legal action against him.> > To remind all of you SJVC-USA has been

formed on explicit order/desire of Sanjay Rath and most of the work in

registering SJVC-USA as an religious non-profit organization was done by Kusa

devi. Many of you have ordered Sanjay's books and Sanjay's tapes that Kusa made

available to interested audience and of course all the profits of that have gone

to SJVC-USA account (unlike money collected by Laxmi (Lynne Kary) and Brendan

for conferences, books and tapes that has gone to their personal accounts and

is still today unaccounted for, so if you are ordering something from laxmi

know that you are cheated).> > Simultaneously SJVC-USA has been incorporated as

non-profit corporation in the state of New Jersey with it's bank account and all

other legalities and was operating and still is operating without any problems.

The 3 trustees or directors of the SJVC-USA as per Sanjay Rath's agreement are:

Sruta Kirti Das (Director), myself (Dinanatha Das - Secretary) and Brenda Bon

(Kusa's friend who agreed to be trustee for legal purposes while Kusa was

acting as a Treasurer). All of this started in 1999 when most of you have never

even heard of SJVC and SJVC-USA. When the organization was incorporated a web

site www.SJVCUSA.org has also been started and maintained mainly by Sanjay

Rath. I registered the domain name and web site and initial payment for web

site was done by Narasimha Rao and all subsequent payment were borne by myself.

SJVC-USA has been incorporated in New Jersey with address: 1504 Riverton Road,

Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. Same information was presented to IRS (Internal

Revenue Service) who was actually checking our web site to see if we are

differing from the rules govern by non-profit organizations. > www.SJVCUSA.org

was never meant to be a web site of any other organisation than SJVC-USA

registered in New Jersey with office at: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J.

08077. So by accusing me that I hacked www.sjvcusa.org web site because I

included valid legal information about SJVC-USA organization on the web site of

the same organization, Robert openly admits that he hacked www.sjvcusa.org site

and thus he is risking legal action and damages compensation claim against

himself for unauthorized access to www.sjvcusa.org, presenting false and

misleading information on the same site and unauthorized use of registered

corporate name SJVC-USA. Personal legal actions and damage compensation claims

against Robert by damaged trustees/directors of SJVC-USA (positions that Robert

was unlawfully claiming for himself and others) are also likely to follow.> > In

recent past Sanjay Rath wanted to change the SJVC-USA trustees and appoint

Robert, Brendan and Laxmi instead of original trustees mentioned above. After

presenting the matter to our lawyer and consulting him he advised us that it

would be very harmful for a religious non-profit organization to do as Sanjay

proposed. Our lawyer made several points:> > 1. Change of all trustees with new

ones is not welcome in the eyes of IRS, adding trustees instead is advisable> 2.

Proposed head of organization (in this case Robert Koch) is working directly

against the principles of SJVC and thus endangering the legal and non-profit

status of SJVC. In the bylaws of SJVC is stated that SJVC is meant for free

propagation of Jyotish knowledge (while Robert is charging for teaching) and

also by definition a non-profit organization is not meant for a personal gain

of any one individual (Robert is for many years using position of SJVC Guru to

attract new clients and students and thus benefiting from his position in SJVC,

you can still see this on his web site: http://robertkoch.com/robert.html and

you can imagine what would happened if he would be legally in charge for

SJVC-USA)> 3. Other proposed trustee Laxmi (Lynne Kary) to start with lied to

Sanjay to get admission to SJVC and also has been involved with drugs and

weapons smugglers (one of them was her ex-husband: Hansaduta Swami which was

sentenced to jail for many years because of illegal use of drugs and weapons

and smuggling of the same> > Sanjay was also informed about this on several

occasions by myself and Kusa devi and than he made a decision that Robert,

Brendan and Laxmi can form their own organization independent from existing

SJVC-USA registered in NJ and that has registered office at: 1504 Riverton

Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077> > Above 3 points, as mentioned by our lawyer,

especially after 9/11 when it was discovered and determined by IRS that many

Islamic charities in the USA were using their non-profit status to collect

charity and than they were sending that charity to fund radical Islamic

militant organizations (including Al-Queda) would deeply risk our non-profit

status and could bring to SJVC-USA many unnecessary legal complications

especially because part of SJVC-USA funds was supposed to go to India to help

SJVC in India. As we know many Islamic militant organizations are present and

are becoming increasingly active in India (which we could witness in recent

shooting in Swami Narayan temple in Gandhi Nagar). Seeing the history of some

of the proposed trustees our lawyer couldn't say anything else than what he

mentioned in above points and conclude that persons like Laxmi and Robert are

totally legally unfit to be trustees of SJVC.> > Knowing that Laxmi is another

drop out from ISKCON like Robert it is easy to see that spiritually are not

much more fit than what they are legally to be part of SJVC.> > The only person

from proposed 3 names that could be fit as additional SJVC trustees was Brendan,

who seems to be nice guy but deeply mislead by Robert and Laxmi. > > In 1999

Sanjay has asked Robert to become Jyotish Guru which former declined on the

grounds that because he is charging (meaning ripping off) his students for

Jyotish lessons he cannot do it and that because he is busy with doing charts

for his clients he has no time for involvement in SJVC. Sanjay replied saying

that SJVC Guru assignment is for life and not temporary and in the future if he

wants he can take up that role (which didn't have to wait for long after Robert

realized that being SJVC Guru is not so bad and generates more clients to be

ripped off) This is how our Robert become SJVC Guru. Starting from that time

Sanjay was warning him that he actually cannot be SJVC Guru and at the same

time charge for teaching which was doing and Robert was quite proudly defying

that warning of Sanjay.> But how Robert who was initiated by Srila Prabhupada

came into that pitiful condition that he just didn't care for orders and

principle of any of his Gurus? While living in the ISKCON temple in India our

Robert has learned little bit of Jyotish and understood that this could be

quite good business on the West especially in the places like USA and he simply

moved to USA and started his own business: Jyotish consultations and lessons.

While for the consultations traditionally (if we follow the parampara which he

obviously didn't even dream of) he could accept donations while teaching was

supposed to be free. Of course, why would he? After dropping out from ISKCON he

was quite free to break all the rules and principles of Gurus and parampara. So

first he betrayed his first Guru Srila Prabhupada and than he didn't want to

follow the order of the second guru. This type of behavior in Vedic culture is

regarded as unchaste just like when woman at the time of marriage gives vows

and than she stops following them and jumps to some other man.Similarly Robert

at the time of initiation by Srila Prabhupada has given him lifetime vows which

he is not following for many, many years. On the other hand whenever someone

mentions this to Robert he just becomes uncontrollably mad and angry at that

person that he cannot control himself, as you could see from his last letter

where he was accusing me that I hacked SJVC's web site. As you can see Robert

has all the "good" qualities of Guru and spiritual leader. He was always a

looser and will continue to be one.> > To conclude only legal SJVC-USA

organization in the USA is the one incorporated in the state of New Jersey (and

there is no other), has registered office at: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson,

N.J. 08077. Again, there is no other SJVC-USA like Robert & Co. are claiming,

they are simply misleading you and lying to you. > Any unauthorized use of

SJVC-USA corporate name, it's web site (www.sjvcusa.org), collections and fund

raising done in the name of SJVC-USA by unauthorized persons are legally

punishable and offenders will be legally prosecuted to the maximum possible

extent.> > I am sorry that I have to act like this, but after tolerating long

lasting misconduct of Robert Koch as so called SJVC Guru, constant unauthorized

use (hacking) of www.sjvcusa.org and giving false and misleading information on

the same web site, constant hassle and lies that he was spreading about SJVC

and myself personally, I had to resort to this step because someone has to put

Robert in his place. > > Hare Krishna,> Dinanatha Das (SJVC-USA Secretary)> >

> > > > > . > > > > > > > - > Robert A. Koch >

sjvc > Cc: Achyuta ; varahamihira ; vedic astrology >

Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:22 PM> [Hare Rama Krishna] Re:

[sjvc] SJVC Site - Hacked?> > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Dear Jyotish gurus and sisyas,> > Narayan Iyer

has written as follows:> > >Om Jaya Jagganath> >-----------------> >> >Namaste

Friends,> >> >It appears to me that the contents of the following link>

>http://www.sjvcusa.org/org/organisation.htm> >> >has been hacked.> >> >I am

also pretty sure who was behind all this. Robert & Brendan's> >name have been

removed and instead Dinanatha's name is replaced.> >Hope this situation is

rectified immediately.> >> >Regards> >Narayan> > Narayan, you are absolutely

correct. The removal of myself, Brendan, and > Laksmi is indeed part of the

insidious workings of Dina-natha. For those > who may not know the history,

let me provide a brief summary: Dina-natha > had been removed from any

spiritual, instructing, or administrative duties > in SJVC, due to continuous

and reckless verbal offenses committed to not > just myself, but Brendan,

Laksmi, and even Sanjay. He had been given > numerous warnings, and

encouragement to "bury the ax", to try to diffuse > his unreasonable and

unconscionable anger, and learn how to work > cooperatively. Still, he ignored

these requests and continued to launch a > self-determined assault on all those

who had been personally hand-picked by > Sanjay to head the SJVC in north and

south Americas. Why he has chosen to > embark on this hurtful and destructive

path, only Lord Sri Jagannatha > Mahaprabhu knows the answer.> > Let all be

advised, that Dina-natha has no standing whatsoever in > SJVC-USA. His

reprehensible activities of hacking into and dismembering > the SJVC site

should be ignored, while in the meantime, we shall look into > the technical

side of this matter further. No one shall give donations of > any kind in the

name of SJVC to Dina-natha, nor is he to be given any > regard as a prior

member of this organization, nor should anybody pay > attention to what he

says. His mindless and delusional activities shall > be ignored. If anybody

has any doubts as to the true intent of Sri Sanjay > Rath in these matters, then

he/she may contact him directly.> > In the service of Jyotir-vidya,> Robert> >

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer> Faculty

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September 29, 2002

Hi, to Dinanatha Das, it looks like you will be able to clear your name, I hope

so Angie

vedic astrology, "Dinanatha Das" <vedic@s...> wrote:

> Dear Group members,

>

> Jaya Jagannatha!

>

> After fallacious writings of Robert Koch that I have hacked SJVCUSA.ORG web

site and so many other untrue things, again I have no option other than to

defend myself. Robert Koch has been intentionally harassing myself for quite

some time now and simply said I am really sick and tired of his lies and if he

continues like this I will have no other choice but to take legal action against

him.

>

> To remind all of you SJVC-USA has been formed on explicit order/desire of

Sanjay Rath and most of the work in registering SJVC-USA as an religious

non-profit organization was done by Kusa devi. Many of you have ordered Sanjay's

books and Sanjay's tapes that Kusa made available to interested audience and of

course all the profits of that have gone to SJVC-USA account (unlike money

collected by Laxmi (Lynne Kary) and Brendan for conferences, books and tapes

that has gone to their personal accounts and is still today unaccounted for, so

if you are ordering something from laxmi know that you are cheated).

>

> Simultaneously SJVC-USA has been incorporated as non-profit corporation in the

state of New Jersey with it's bank account and all other legalities and was

operating and still is operating without any problems. The 3 trustees or

directors of the SJVC-USA as per Sanjay Rath's agreement are: Sruta Kirti Das

(Director), myself (Dinanatha Das - Secretary) and Brenda Bon (Kusa's friend who

agreed to be trustee for legal purposes while Kusa was acting as a Treasurer).

All of this started in 1999 when most of you have never even heard of SJVC and

SJVC-USA. When the organization was incorporated a web site www.SJVCUSA.org has

also been started and maintained mainly by Sanjay Rath. I registered the domain

name and web site and initial payment for web site was done by Narasimha Rao and

all subsequent payment were borne by myself. SJVC-USA has been incorporated in

New Jersey with address: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. Same

information was presented to IRS (Internal Revenue Service) who was actually

checking our web site to see if we are differing from the rules govern by

non-profit organizations.

> www.SJVCUSA.org was never meant to be a web site of any other organisation

than SJVC-USA registered in New Jersey with office at: 1504 Riverton Road,