To Visti

September 29, 2002

Dear Visti,

How about we start a really interesting discussion on charts to get our

minds onto more positive things. What about John Major admitting this week

to his four year affair with Edwina Curry in the UK and how he lied about

it. How would that show up in his chart and do you have his birth data?

Om Tat Sat

Robyn

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"schinnas" <schinnas

Monday, September 30, 2002 12:53 AM

[vedic astrology] Let us leave the matter to Gurus (to monmuk)

> Vyam Vysa-evaya namah.

>

> monmuk,

> Guru Sanjayji's annoucement of Guru Robert Koch as SJVC-America's

> only head should clarify things. Reg your comments about Smt. Laxmi

> Devi, I think it is very improper to comment about someone's ex-

> relatives' past.

>

> Please let us leave the matter to the gurus and they know how to

> solve any problems. If possible, let us pray for SJVC and continue

> your normal life as a sincere jyotish student. Gurujis of SJVC know

> and will sort out any confusion. It is not for the students of SJVC

> to doubt the intentions of the founder or his choice of

> appointments.

>

> I dont know how complicated things are actually, but from Mr.

> Dinanatha's post, I sense a legal threat/challange to Guru Sanjay's

> recent organizational changes to SJVC-USA and to the legal ownership

> of sjvc-usa itself.

>

> May Lord Jagannath help Sanjayji and his SJVC-USA team to sort out

> these complications.

>

> -Siva Chinnasamy.

>

> vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111> wrote:

> > Wow!!! Things aren't what they really appear to be.

> >

> > Dinanath makes some very valid points. Why let someone like laxmi

> > whose ex-husband was convicted for drugs and weapons charges be

> > associated with an organization like SJVC. It appears that

> Dinanath

> > is righteous and Robert Koch is the thug as Dinnath's e-mail

> appears

> > to be candid and a statement of fact. Why doesn't Robret defend

> > himself if he is righteous and Dinanath is lying?

> >

> > MD

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Dinanatha Das" <vedic@s...> wrote:

> > > Dear Group members,

> > >

> > > Jaya Jagannatha!

> > >

> > > After fallacious writings of Robert Koch that I have hacked

> > SJVCUSA.ORG web site and so many other untrue things, again I

> have

> > no option other than to defend myself. Robert Koch has been

> > intentionally harassing myself for quite some time now and simply

> > said I am really sick and tired of his lies and if he continues

> like

> > this I will have no other choice but to take legal action against

> him.

> > >

> > > To remind all of you SJVC-USA has been formed on explicit

> > order/desire of Sanjay Rath and most of the work in registering

> SJVC-

> > USA as an religious non-profit organization was done by Kusa devi.

> > Many of you have ordered Sanjay's books and Sanjay's tapes that

> Kusa

> > made available to interested audience and of course all the

> profits

> > of that have gone to SJVC-USA account (unlike money collected by

> > Laxmi (Lynne Kary) and Brendan for conferences, books and tapes

> that

> > has gone to their personal accounts and is still today unaccounted

> > for, so if you are ordering something from laxmi know that you are

> > cheated).

> > >

> > > Simultaneously SJVC-USA has been incorporated as non-profit

> > corporation in the state of New Jersey with it's bank account and

> all

> > other legalities and was operating and still is operating without

> any

> > problems. The 3 trustees or directors of the SJVC-USA as per

> Sanjay

> > Rath's agreement are: Sruta Kirti Das (Director), myself

> (Dinanatha

> > Das - Secretary) and Brenda Bon (Kusa's friend who agreed to be

> > trustee for legal purposes while Kusa was acting as a Treasurer).

> All

> > of this started in 1999 when most of you have never even heard of

> > SJVC and SJVC-USA. When the organization was incorporated a web

> site

> > www.SJVCUSA.org has also been started and maintained mainly by

> Sanjay

> > Rath. I registered the domain name and web site and initial

> payment

> > for web site was done by Narasimha Rao and all subsequent payment

> > were borne by myself. SJVC-USA has been incorporated in New Jersey

> > with address: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. Same

> > information was presented to IRS (Internal Revenue Service) who

> was

> > actually checking our web site to see if we are differing from the

> > rules govern by non-profit organizations.

> > > www.SJVCUSA.org was never meant to be a web site of any other

> > organisation than SJVC-USA registered in New Jersey with office

> at:

> > 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. So by accusing me

> that I

> > hacked www.sjvcusa.org web site because I included valid legal

> > information about SJVC-USA organization on the web site of the

> same

> > organization, Robert openly admits that he hacked www.sjvcusa.org

> > site and thus he is risking legal action and damages compensation

> > claim against himself for unauthorized access to www.sjvcusa.org,

> > presenting false and misleading information on the same site and

> > unauthorized use of registered corporate name SJVC-USA. Personal

> > legal actions and damage compensation claims against Robert by

> > damaged trustees/directors of SJVC-USA (positions that Robert was

> > unlawfully claiming for himself and others) are also likely to

> follow.

> > >

> > > In recent past Sanjay Rath wanted to change the SJVC-USA

> trustees

> > and appoint Robert, Brendan and Laxmi instead of original trustees

> > mentioned above. After presenting the matter to our lawyer and

> > consulting him he advised us that it would be very harmful for a

> > religious non-profit organization to do as Sanjay proposed. Our

> > lawyer made several points:

> > >

> > > 1. Change of all trustees with new ones is not welcome in the

> eyes

> > of IRS, adding trustees instead is advisable

> > > 2. Proposed head of organization (in this case Robert Koch) is

> > working directly against the principles of SJVC and thus

> endangering

> > the legal and non-profit status of SJVC. In the bylaws of SJVC is

> > stated that SJVC is meant for free propagation of Jyotish

> knowledge

> > (while Robert is charging for teaching) and also by definition a

> non-

> > profit organization is not meant for a personal gain of any one

> > individual (Robert is for many years using position of SJVC Guru

> to

> > attract new clients and students and thus benefiting from his

> > position in SJVC, you can still see this on his web site:

> > http://robertkoch.com/robert.html and you can imagine what would

> > happened if he would be legally in charge for SJVC-USA)

> > > 3. Other proposed trustee Laxmi (Lynne Kary) to start with lied

> to

> > Sanjay to get admission to SJVC and also has been involved with

> drugs

> > and weapons smugglers (one of them was her ex-husband: Hansaduta

> > Swami which was sentenced to jail for many years because of

> illegal

> > use of drugs and weapons and smuggling of the same

> > >

> > > Sanjay was also informed about this on several occasions by

> myself

> > and Kusa devi and than he made a decision that Robert, Brendan and

> > Laxmi can form their own organization independent from existing

> SJVC-

> > USA registered in NJ and that has registered office at: 1504

> Riverton

> > Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077

> > >

> > > Above 3 points, as mentioned by our lawyer, especially after

> 9/11

> > when it was discovered and determined by IRS that many Islamic

> > charities in the USA were using their non-profit status to collect

> > charity and than they were sending that charity to fund radical

> > Islamic militant organizations (including Al-Queda) would deeply

> risk

> > our non-profit status and could bring to SJVC-USA many unnecessary

> > legal complications especially because part of SJVC-USA funds was

> > supposed to go to India to help SJVC in India. As we know many

> > Islamic militant organizations are present and are becoming

> > increasingly active in India (which we could witness in recent

> > shooting in Swami Narayan temple in Gandhi Nagar). Seeing the

> history

> > of some of the proposed trustees our lawyer couldn't say anything

> > else than what he mentioned in above points and conclude that

> persons

> > like Laxmi and Robert are totally legally unfit to be trustees of

> > SJVC.

> > >

> > > Knowing that Laxmi is another drop out from ISKCON like Robert

> it

> > is easy to see that spiritually are not much more fit than what

> they

> > are legally to be part of SJVC.

> > >

> > > The only person from proposed 3 names that could be fit as

> > additional SJVC trustees was Brendan, who seems to be nice guy but

> > deeply mislead by Robert and Laxmi.

> > >

> > > In 1999 Sanjay has asked Robert to become Jyotish Guru which

> former

> > declined on the grounds that because he is charging (meaning

> ripping

> > off) his students for Jyotish lessons he cannot do it and that

> > because he is busy with doing charts for his clients he has no

> time

> > for involvement in SJVC. Sanjay replied saying that SJVC Guru

> > assignment is for life and not temporary and in the future if he

> > wants he can take up that role (which didn't have to wait for long

> > after Robert realized that being SJVC Guru is not so bad and

> > generates more clients to be ripped off) This is how our Robert

> > become SJVC Guru. Starting from that time Sanjay was warning him

> that

> > he actually cannot be SJVC Guru and at the same time charge for

> > teaching which was doing and Robert was quite proudly defying that

> > warning of Sanjay.

> > > But how Robert who was initiated by Srila Prabhupada came into

> that

> > pitiful condition that he just didn't care for orders and

> principle

> > of any of his Gurus? While living in the ISKCON temple in India

> our

> > Robert has learned little bit of Jyotish and understood that this

> > could be quite good business on the West especially in the places

> > like USA and he simply moved to USA and started his own business:

> > Jyotish consultations and lessons. While for the consultations

> > traditionally (if we follow the parampara which he obviously

> didn't

> > even dream of) he could accept donations while teaching was

> supposed

> > to be free. Of course, why would he? After dropping out from

> ISKCON

> > he was quite free to break all the rules and principles of Gurus

> and

> > parampara. So first he betrayed his first Guru Srila Prabhupada

> and

> > than he didn't want to follow the order of the second guru. This

> type

> > of behavior in Vedic culture is regarded as unchaste just like

> when

> > woman at the time of marriage gives vows and than she stops

> following

> > them and jumps to some other man.Similarly Robert at the time of

> > initiation by Srila Prabhupada has given him lifetime vows which

> he

> > is not following for many, many years. On the other hand whenever

> > someone mentions this to Robert he just becomes uncontrollably mad

> > and angry at that person that he cannot control himself, as you

> could

> > see from his last letter where he was accusing me that I hacked

> > SJVC's web site. As you can see Robert has all the "good"

> qualities

> > of Guru and spiritual leader. He was always a looser and will

> > continue to be one.

> > >

> > > To conclude only legal SJVC-USA organization in the USA is the

> one

> > incorporated in the state of New Jersey (and there is no other),

> has

> > registered office at: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077.

> > Again, there is no other SJVC-USA like Robert & Co. are claiming,

> > they are simply misleading you and lying to you.

> > > Any unauthorized use of SJVC-USA corporate name, it's web site

> > (www.sjvcusa.org), collections and fund raising done in the name

> of

> > SJVC-USA by unauthorized persons are legally punishable and

> offenders

> > will be legally prosecuted to the maximum possible extent.

> > >

> > > I am sorry that I have to act like this, but after tolerating

> long

> > lasting misconduct of Robert Koch as so called SJVC Guru, constant

> > unauthorized use (hacking) of www.sjvcusa.org and giving false and

> > misleading information on the same web site, constant hassle and

> lies

> > that he was spreading about SJVC and myself personally, I had to

> > resort to this step because someone has to put Robert in his

> place.

> > >

> > > Hare Krishna,

> > > Dinanatha Das (SJVC-USA Secretary)

> > >

> > > .

> > >

> > > -

> > > Robert A. Koch

> > > sjvc

> > > Cc: Achyuta ; varahamihira ; vedic astrology

> > > Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:22 PM

> > > [Hare Rama Krishna] Re: [sjvc] SJVC Site - Hacked?

> > >

> > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > >

> > > Dear Jyotish gurus and sisyas,

> > >

> > > Narayan Iyer has written as follows:

> > >

> > > >Om Jaya Jagganath

> > > >-----------------

> > > >

> > > >Namaste Friends,

> > > >

> > > >It appears to me that the contents of the following link

> > > >http://www.sjvcusa.org/org/organisation.htm

> > > >

> > > >has been hacked.

> > > >

> > > >I am also pretty sure who was behind all this. Robert &

> Brendan's

> > > >name have been removed and instead Dinanatha's name is replaced.

> > > >Hope this situation is rectified immediately.

> > > >

> > > >Regards

> > > >Narayan

> > >

> > > Narayan, you are absolutely correct. The removal of myself,

> > Brendan, and

> > > Laksmi is indeed part of the insidious workings of Dina-natha.

> > For those

> > > who may not know the history, let me provide a brief summary:

> Dina-

> > natha

> > > had been removed from any spiritual, instructing, or

> administrative

> > duties

> > > in SJVC, due to continuous and reckless verbal offenses

> committed

> > to not

> > > just myself, but Brendan, Laksmi, and even Sanjay. He had been

> > given

> > > numerous warnings, and encouragement to "bury the ax", to try to

> > diffuse

> > > his unreasonable and unconscionable anger, and learn how to work

> > > cooperatively. Still, he ignored these requests and continued

> to

> > launch a

> > > self-determined assault on all those who had been personally

> hand-

> > picked by

> > > Sanjay to head the SJVC in north and south Americas. Why he

> has

> > chosen to

> > > embark on this hurtful and destructive path, only Lord Sri

> > Jagannatha

> > > Mahaprabhu knows the answer.

> > >

> > > Let all be advised, that Dina-natha has no standing whatsoever

> in

> > > SJVC-USA. His reprehensible activities of hacking into and

> > dismembering

> > > the SJVC site should be ignored, while in the meantime, we shall

> > look into

> > > the technical side of this matter further. No one shall give

> > donations of

> > > any kind in the name of SJVC to Dina-natha, nor is he to be

> given

> > any

> > > regard as a prior member of this organization, nor should

> anybody

> > pay

> > > attention to what he says. His mindless and delusional

> activities

> > shall

> > > be ignored. If anybody has any doubts as to the true intent of

> > Sri Sanjay

> > > Rath in these matters, then he/she may contact him directly.

> > >

> > > In the service of Jyotir-vidya,

> > > Robert

> > >

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > > Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer

> > > Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA

> > > visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> and,

> > > http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or

> > > Ph: 541.318.0248

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

September 30, 2002

Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah

Dear Robyn,

What should show up in his chart is the 'luck' to avoid a scandal, and then

later on the same scandal was revealed.. This is the work of Saturn and Rahu.

A more detailed look into the chart would be appropriate with

Padanadhamsa(Pada-Navamsa) dasa, but we can use Vimshottari offcourse.

Now all we need is the chart! I don't have it.

Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgITRANS Font:

http://www.aczone.com/itrans/

-

Robyn

vedic astrology

Sunday, September 29, 2002 1:10 PM

[vedic astrology] To Visti

Dear Visti,How about we start a really interesting discussion on charts to get

ourminds onto more positive things. What about John Major admitting this weekto

his four year affair with Edwina Curry in the UK and how he lied aboutit. How

would that show up in his chart and do you have his birth data?Om Tat

SatRobyn-"schinnas" <schinnas >To:

<vedic astrology>Monday, September 30, 2002 12:53

AM[vedic astrology] Let us leave the matter to Gurus (to monmuk)> Vyam

Vysa-evaya namah.>> monmuk,> Guru Sanjayji's annoucement of Guru Robert Koch

as SJVC-America's> only head should clarify things. Reg your comments about

Smt. Laxmi> Devi, I think it is very improper to comment about someone's ex->

relatives' past.>> Please let us leave the matter to the gurus and they know

how to> solve any problems. If possible, let us pray for SJVC and continue>

your normal life as a sincere jyotish student. Gurujis of SJVC know> and will

sort out any confusion. It is not for the students of SJVC> to doubt the

intentions of the founder or his choice of> appointments.>> I dont know how

complicated things are actually, but from Mr.> Dinanatha's post, I sense a

legal threat/challange to Guru Sanjay's> recent organizational changes to

SJVC-USA and to the legal ownership> of sjvc-usa itself.>> May Lord Jagannath

help Sanjayji and his SJVC-USA team to sort out> these complications.>> -Siva

Chinnasamy.>>> vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

wrote:> > Wow!!! Things aren't what they really appear to be.> >> > Dinanath

makes some very valid points. Why let someone like laxmi> > whose ex-husband

was convicted for drugs and weapons charges be> > associated with an

organization like SJVC. It appears that> Dinanath> > is righteous and Robert

Koch is the thug as Dinnath's e-mail> appears> > to be candid and a statement

of fact. Why doesn't Robret defend> > himself if he is righteous and Dinanath

is lying?> >> > MD> >> > vedic astrology, "Dinanatha Das"

<vedic@s...> wrote:> > > Dear Group members,> > >> > > Jaya Jagannatha!> > >> >

> After fallacious writings of Robert Koch that I have hacked> > SJVCUSA.ORG web

site and so many other untrue things, again I> have> > no option other than to

defend myself. Robert Koch has been> > intentionally harassing myself for quite

some time now and simply> > said I am really sick and tired of his lies and if

he continues> like> > this I will have no other choice but to take legal action

against> him.> > >> > > To remind all of you SJVC-USA has been formed on

explicit> > order/desire of Sanjay Rath and most of the work in registering>

SJVC-> > USA as an religious non-profit organization was done by Kusa devi.> >

Many of you have ordered Sanjay's books and Sanjay's tapes that> Kusa> > made

available to interested audience and of course all the> profits> > of that have

gone to SJVC-USA account (unlike money collected by> > Laxmi (Lynne Kary) and

Brendan for conferences, books and tapes> that> > has gone to their personal

accounts and is still today unaccounted> > for, so if you are ordering

something from laxmi know that you are> > cheated).> > >> > > Simultaneously

SJVC-USA has been incorporated as non-profit> > corporation in the state of New

Jersey with it's bank account and> all> > other legalities and was operating and

still is operating without> any> > problems. The 3 trustees or directors of the

SJVC-USA as per> Sanjay> > Rath's agreement are: Sruta Kirti Das (Director),

myself> (Dinanatha> > Das - Secretary) and Brenda Bon (Kusa's friend who agreed

to be> > trustee for legal purposes while Kusa was acting as a Treasurer).> All>

> of this started in 1999 when most of you have never even heard of> > SJVC and

SJVC-USA. When the organization was incorporated a web> site> > www.SJVCUSA.org

has also been started and maintained mainly by> Sanjay> > Rath. I registered the

domain name and web site and initial> payment> > for web site was done by

Narasimha Rao and all subsequent payment> > were borne by myself. SJVC-USA has

been incorporated in New Jersey> > with address: 1504 Riverton Road,

Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. Same> > information was presented to IRS (Internal

Revenue Service) who> was> > actually checking our web site to see if we are

differing from the> > rules govern by non-profit organizations.> > >

www.SJVCUSA.org was never meant to be a web site of any other> > organisation

than SJVC-USA registered in New Jersey with office> at:> > 1504 Riverton Road,

Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. So by accusing me> that I> > hacked www.sjvcusa.org

web site because I included valid legal> > information about SJVC-USA

organization on the web site of the> same> > organization, Robert openly admits

that he hacked www.sjvcusa.org> > site and thus he is risking legal action and

damages compensation> > claim against himself for unauthorized access to

www.sjvcusa.org,> > presenting false and misleading information on the same

site and> > unauthorized use of registered corporate name SJVC-USA. Personal> >

legal actions and damage compensation claims against Robert by> > damaged

trustees/directors of SJVC-USA (positions that Robert was> > unlawfully

claiming for himself and others) are also likely to> follow.> > >> > > In

recent past Sanjay Rath wanted to change the SJVC-USA> trustees> > and appoint

Robert, Brendan and Laxmi instead of original trustees> > mentioned above.

After presenting the matter to our lawyer and> > consulting him he advised us

that it would be very harmful for a> > religious non-profit organization to do

as Sanjay proposed. Our> > lawyer made several points:> > >> > > 1. Change of

all trustees with new ones is not welcome in the> eyes> > of IRS, adding

trustees instead is advisable> > > 2. Proposed head of organization (in this

case Robert Koch) is> > working directly against the principles of SJVC and

thus> endangering> > the legal and non-profit status of SJVC. In the bylaws of

SJVC is> > stated that SJVC is meant for free propagation of Jyotish> knowledge>

> (while Robert is charging for teaching) and also by definition a> non-> >

profit organization is not meant for a personal gain of any one> > individual

(Robert is for many years using position of SJVC Guru> to> > attract new

clients and students and thus benefiting from his> > position in SJVC, you can

still see this on his web site:> > http://robertkoch.com/robert.html and you

can imagine what would> > happened if he would be legally in charge for

SJVC-USA)> > > 3. Other proposed trustee Laxmi (Lynne Kary) to start with lied>

to> > Sanjay to get admission to SJVC and also has been involved with> drugs> >

and weapons smugglers (one of them was her ex-husband: Hansaduta> > Swami which

was sentenced to jail for many years because of> illegal> > use of drugs and

weapons and smuggling of the same> > >> > > Sanjay was also informed about this

on several occasions by> myself> > and Kusa devi and than he made a decision

that Robert, Brendan and> > Laxmi can form their own organization independent

from existing> SJVC-> > USA registered in NJ and that has registered office at:

1504> Riverton> > Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077> > >> > > Above 3 points, as

mentioned by our lawyer, especially after> 9/11> > when it was discovered and

determined by IRS that many Islamic> > charities in the USA were using their

non-profit status to collect> > charity and than they were sending that

charity to fund radical> > Islamic militant organizations (including Al-Queda)

would deeply> risk> > our non-profit status and could bring to SJVC-USA many

unnecessary> > legal complications especially because part of SJVC-USA funds

was> > supposed to go to India to help SJVC in India. As we know many> >

Islamic militant organizations are present and are becoming> > increasingly

active in India (which we could witness in recent> > shooting in Swami Narayan

temple in Gandhi Nagar). Seeing the> history> > of some of the proposed

trustees our lawyer couldn't say anything> > else than what he mentioned in

above points and conclude that> persons> > like Laxmi and Robert are totally

legally unfit to be trustees of> > SJVC.> > >> > > Knowing that Laxmi is

another drop out from ISKCON like Robert> it> > is easy to see that spiritually

are not much more fit than what> they> > are legally to be part of SJVC.> > >> >

> The only person from proposed 3 names that could be fit as> > additional SJVC

trustees was Brendan, who seems to be nice guy but> > deeply mislead by Robert

and Laxmi.> > >> > > In 1999 Sanjay has asked Robert to become Jyotish Guru

which> former> > declined on the grounds that because he is charging (meaning>

ripping> > off) his students for Jyotish lessons he cannot do it and that> >

because he is busy with doing charts for his clients he has no> time> > for

involvement in SJVC. Sanjay replied saying that SJVC Guru> > assignment is for

life and not temporary and in the future if he> > wants he can take up that

role (which didn't have to wait for long> > after Robert realized that being

SJVC Guru is not so bad and> > generates more clients to be ripped off) This is

how our Robert> > become SJVC Guru. Starting from that time Sanjay was warning

him> that> > he actually cannot be SJVC Guru and at the same time charge for> >

teaching which was doing and Robert was quite proudly defying that> > warning of

Sanjay.> > > But how Robert who was initiated by Srila Prabhupada came into>

that> > pitiful condition that he just didn't care for orders and> principle> >

of any of his Gurus? While living in the ISKCON temple in India> our> > Robert

has learned little bit of Jyotish and understood that this> > could be quite

good business on the West especially in the places> > like USA and he simply

moved to USA and started his own business:> > Jyotish consultations and

lessons. While for the consultations> > traditionally (if we follow the

parampara which he obviously> didn't> > even dream of) he could accept

donations while teaching was> supposed> > to be free. Of course, why would he?

After dropping out from> ISKCON> > he was quite free to break all the rules and

principles of Gurus> and> > parampara. So first he betrayed his first Guru Srila

Prabhupada> and> > than he didn't want to follow the order of the second guru.

This> type> > of behavior in Vedic culture is regarded as unchaste just like>

when> > woman at the time of marriage gives vows and than she stops> following>

> them and jumps to some other man.Similarly Robert at the time of> > initiation

by Srila Prabhupada has given him lifetime vows which> he> > is not following

for many, many years. On the other hand whenever> > someone mentions this to

Robert he just becomes uncontrollably mad> > and angry at that person that he

cannot control himself, as you> could> > see from his last letter where he was

accusing me that I hacked> > SJVC's web site. As you can see Robert has all the

"good"> qualities> > of Guru and spiritual leader. He was always a looser and

will> > continue to be one.> > >> > > To conclude only legal SJVC-USA

organization in the USA is the> one> > incorporated in the state of New Jersey

(and there is no other),> has> > registered office at: 1504 Riverton Road,

Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077.> > Again, there is no other SJVC-USA like Robert & Co.

are claiming,> > they are simply misleading you and lying to you.> > > Any

unauthorized use of SJVC-USA corporate name, it's web site> >

(www.sjvcusa.org), collections and fund raising done in the name> of> >

SJVC-USA by unauthorized persons are legally punishable and> offenders> > will

be legally prosecuted to the maximum possible extent.> > >> > > I am sorry that

I have to act like this, but after tolerating> long> > lasting misconduct of

Robert Koch as so called SJVC Guru, constant> > unauthorized use (hacking) of

www.sjvcusa.org and giving false and> > misleading information on the same web

site, constant hassle and> lies> > that he was spreading about SJVC and myself

personally, I had to> > resort to this step because someone has to put Robert

in his> place.> > >> > > Hare Krishna,> > > Dinanatha Das (SJVC-USA

Secretary)> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > .> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>

> > -> > > Robert A. Koch> > > sjvc>

> > Cc: Achyuta ; varahamihira ; vedic astrology> > > Sent:

Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:22 PM> > > [Hare Rama Krishna] Re:

[sjvc] SJVC Site - Hacked?> > >> > >> > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > >

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > >> > > Dear Jyotish gurus and sisyas,> > >> > >

Narayan Iyer has written as follows:> > >> > > >Om Jaya Jagganath> > >

>-----------------> > > >> > > >Namaste Friends,> > > >> > > >It appears to me

that the contents of the following link> > >

>http://www.sjvcusa.org/org/organisation.htm> > > >> > > >has been hacked.> > >

>> > > >I am also pretty sure who was behind all this. Robert &> Brendan's> > >

>name have been removed and instead Dinanatha's name is replaced.> > > >Hope

this situation is rectified immediately.> > > >> > > >Regards> > > >Narayan> >

>> > > Narayan, you are absolutely correct. The removal of myself,> > Brendan,

and> > > Laksmi is indeed part of the insidious workings of Dina-natha.> > For

those> > > who may not know the history, let me provide a brief summary:>

Dina-> > natha> > > had been removed from any spiritual, instructing, or>

administrative> > duties> > > in SJVC, due to continuous and reckless verbal

offenses> committed> > to not> > > just myself, but Brendan, Laksmi, and even

Sanjay. He had been> > given> > > numerous warnings, and encouragement to

"bury the ax", to try to> > diffuse> > > his unreasonable and unconscionable

anger, and learn how to work> > > cooperatively. Still, he ignored these

requests and continued> to> > launch a> > > self-determined assault on all

those who had been personally> hand-> > picked by> > > Sanjay to head the SJVC

in north and south Americas. Why he> has> > chosen to> > > embark on this

hurtful and destructive path, only Lord Sri> > Jagannatha> > > Mahaprabhu knows

the answer.> > >> > > Let all be advised, that Dina-natha has no standing

whatsoever> in> > > SJVC-USA. His reprehensible activities of hacking into

and> > dismembering> > > the SJVC site should be ignored, while in the

meantime, we shall> > look into> > > the technical side of this matter further.

No one shall give> > donations of> > > any kind in the name of SJVC to

Dina-natha, nor is he to be> given> > any> > > regard as a prior member of this

organization, nor should> anybody> > pay> > > attention to what he says. His

mindless and delusional> activities> > shall> > > be ignored. If anybody has

any doubts as to the true intent of> > Sri Sanjay> > > Rath in these matters,

then he/she may contact him directly.> > >> > > In the service of

Jyotir-vidya,> > > Robert> > >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > > Robert

A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer> > > Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA> > > visit

<http://www.robertkoch.com> and,> > > http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or> > >

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Hi Visti,

I searched for the chart details last night on Lois Rodden but couldnt find a

thing. Does anyone have this chart? John Major, former prime minister of

England?

The scandal is current and could make for relevant research into such matters

however distasteful they may be.

I shall keep looking Visti.

Best wishes

Robyn

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Visti Larsen

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Monday, September 30, 2002 2:56 PM

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