D-60 question

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Dear Learned Members, In context to D-60 threads, I would like to share that I

happened to visit a Nadi Centre quite a few months ago. Their leaf reading

about vital statistics like drwaing of D-1 just by your thumb impression,

number of siblings, education, about parents in general, and very general peek

into future seems amazingly correct. But I doubt their astrology. May be the

center I visited was not that perfect to answer my specific questions. But

believe me they are all great in telling hair raising curses of previous birth.

I did all the parihars (eventually my whole family was asked to do so) but seems

something is doubtful here. Anyways, according to them my chart has a severe

curse on it. they also recorded my story of previous birth and based on that I

would like to rectify my birth time. For that I would be grateful, if genius

may give some time on following: 1. i got an impression from your mails that

D-60 could be treated as the chart of previous birth. so can we take that

complete chart in individual? 2. how to reckon a 'classical dancer' from the

chart? (Is it venus (art), jup (traditional), mars (energy or movement)?) 3.

how to see whether the native bluffed (???) or ignored (is it A7 2:12 to AL?in

D-60) or compelled the lover to suicide (A7 in 8H to AL)? I hope learned

members would guide me. well, this can be all like hitting a bush for me but i

would like to give a try with your esteemed co-operation. Regards, Nisha Do

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Om Achyutaaya Namah

Namaste Nisha, > 1. i got an impression from your mails that D-60 could be

treated> as the chart of previous birth. so can we take that complete chart> in

individual? Yes. > 2. how to reckon a 'classical dancer' from the chart? (Is it

venus> (art), jup (traditional), mars (energy or movement)?) For a dancer, you

would see Venusian or lunar influence on the 10th house. They could even be in

AL, influencing the image. Sun's secondary influence on Venus could show

classical dancer. > 3. how to see whether the native bluffed (???) or ignored

(is it> A7 2:12 to AL?in D-60) or compelled the lover to suicide (A7 in 8H> to

AL)? I hope learned members would guide me. Rahu is the planet of cheating.

Probably Rahu has an influence on the maraka sthanas from A7 and has something

to do with lagna too, showing that the native cheated partner. Probably the

maraka sthana from A7 has Saturn or lord of A7, showing suicide. See, several

combinations can give the same result and it will be easier to verify if

something that a nadi reader told you is possible in your D-60 if you give your

birthdata. I am giving an example. A fellow member privately sent me his chart

and his nadi readings and asked me if they made sense. If his D-60 lagna was

moved by a sign, the readings seemed plausible. He permitted me to share the

chart anonymously. Here is the D-60 chart.

 

+--------------+|HL |Ju A7 |Ra

|Su || | | | || |

| | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||As Gk |

| || | | ||

| | || | |

|| | Shashtyamsa | ||-----------|

|-----------||Ma GL | D-60 |Ve ||

| | || | |

|| | | || |

| ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Sa

|Mo Ke |AL |Me || |Md UL | |

|| | | | || |

| | || | | |

|+--------------+

The nadi reading he was given was as follows. He was a very knowledgable and

proud person. He had an affair. His girlfriend was pregnant with his baby and

he was proceeding to marry somebody else. She threatened to make the affair

public. He killed her by poisoning her. While dying, she cursed him. As a

result of the curse, he had a miserable life. His wife took all his properties

and sent him out. He became a sadhu (saint) and lived a saattwik life by living

a temple as a beggar.

In this D-60, exalted Mercury owns and occupies 8th. That shows an extremely

knowledgable scholar. Sun in 5th shows some pride and ego. Jupiter is the 2nd

and 11th lord and occupies marana karaka sthana in 3rd and shows the

destruction of family and friends. A7 is aspected by Venus and Moon (sign

aspect) and shows an affair. Rahu in the 2nd house from A7 shows death of

girlfriend by food poisoning. Rahu being the lagna co-lord shows the native's

role. Native poisoned the girlfriend. Rahu has graha drishti on 5th house, 5th

lord and 7th lord. This shows the native had some intentions (graha drishti)

related to marriage and child when he committed this murder. A7 in Aries with

lord Mars exalted shows a fiery, dynamic and determined (yet righteous -

Jupiter) woman. UL is in Sc. As the 2nd lord from it (Jupiter) is in a friendly

sign in a quadrant from AL, marriage came easily. But Saturn in 2nd from UL was

a maraka and shows the end of marriage. AL in 12th from UL shows being ignored

by wife. The exalted 8th lord Mercury - with exalted Mars in a trine from him -

shows a lot of inherited land and property, but he is in 12th from AL and in

11th from UL. All the property was taken by wife and he was sent out. Saturn in

the 2nd from UL shows the end of marriage due to sannyasa/renunciation (Saturn).

Moon with Ketu in a Martian sign while Mars is in a Saturnine sign can show

sannyasa. Ketu in own sign in the 10th house shows a simple career at a temple.

Ketu afflicting Moon in 10th can show meagre existence (Moon signifies

money/resources at command - Moon is the natural significator for hora lagna

and Sun for ghati lagna).

 

Things kind of make sense. If you try the original Cp lagna in this D-60, things

don't quite fall in place.

 

This is how you would interpret a D-60.

 

Don't try D-60 interpretation based on thumbrules. You should first be familiar

with a lot of combinations and principles given in various classics (regarding

rasi chart). Another thing: I never try D-60 interpretation without some

meditation. Pray to Jupiter (and/or the strongest benefic influence on the 2nd

house in your chart) and only then look at somebody's D-60.

 

Never give negative past life readings unless you are very sure of the

birthdata. Negative past life readings can unsettle some people. Don't abuse

this knowledge for some kicks. Use it with utmost responsibility.

 

As far as nadi readings are concerned, realize that some are genuine (like,

perhaps, the above one) but some are definitely fake. Don't be biased by nadi

readings. > well, this can be all like hitting a bush for me but i would like>

to give a try with your esteemed co-operation. > Regards, > Nisha May

Jupiter's light shine on us,PVRhttp://www.VedicAstrologer.org

 

PS: I've been really busy with work. My participation will be a little low for sometime.

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Namaste

 

Dear Narasimha P.V.R. Rao,

 

I'm very delighted with your explanation and understand, that you are very busy.

 

If you will have some free time, could you please look on the attached

chart. It was said, that in the past life he was not bad bishop, but he

did many mistakes during his life. Is it correct or not?

 

With the best wishes,

 

Youry

 

 

 

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Thu, 24 Oct 2002 01:52:52 -0400

"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr

Re: D-60 question

 

Om Achyutaaya Namah

Namaste Nisha,

 

> 1. i got an impression from your mails that D-60 could be treated

> as the chart of previous birth. so can we take that complete chart

> in individual?

 

Yes.

 

> 2. how to reckon a 'classical dancer' from the chart? (Is it venus

> (art), jup (traditional), mars (energy or movement)?)

 

For a dancer, you would see Venusian or lunar influence on the 10th house.

They could even be in AL, influencing the image. Sun's secondary influence

on Venus could show classical dancer.

 

> 3. how to see whether the native bluffed (???) or ignored (is it

> A7 2:12 to AL?in D-60) or compelled the lover to suicide (A7 in 8H

> to AL)? I hope learned members would guide me.

 

Rahu is the planet of cheating. Probably Rahu has an influence on the

maraka sthanas from A7 and has something to do with lagna too, showing

that the native cheated partner. Probably the maraka sthana from A7 has

Saturn or lord of A7, showing suicide.

 

See, several combinations can give the same result and it will be easier

to verify if something that a nadi reader told you is possible in your

D-60 if you give your birthdata.

 

I am giving an example. A fellow member privately sent me his chart and

his nadi readings and asked me if they made sense. If his D-60 lagna was

moved by a sign, the readings seemed plausible. He permitted me to share

the chart anonymously. Here is the D-60 chart.

 

+--------------+

|HL |Ju A7 |Ra |Su |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|As Gk | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | Shashtyamsa | |

|-----------| |-----------|

|Ma GL | D-60 |Ve |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|Sa |Mo Ke |AL |Me |

| |Md UL | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+--------------+

 

The nadi reading he was given was as follows. He was a very knowledgable

and proud person. He had an affair. His girlfriend was pregnant with his

baby and he was proceeding to marry somebody else. She threatened to make

the affair public. He killed her by poisoning her. While dying, she cursed

him. As a result of the curse, he had a miserable life. His wife took all

his properties and sent him out. He became a sadhu (saint) and lived a

saattwik life by living a temple as a beggar.

 

In this D-60, exalted Mercury owns and occupies 8th. That shows an

extremely knowledgable scholar. Sun in 5th shows some pride and ego.

Jupiter is the 2nd and 11th lord and occupies marana karaka sthana in 3rd

and shows the destruction of family and friends. A7 is aspected by Venus

and Moon (sign aspect) and shows an affair. Rahu in the 2nd house from A7

shows death of girlfriend by food poisoning. Rahu being the lagna co-lord

shows the native's role. Native poisoned the girlfriend. Rahu has graha

drishti on 5th house, 5th lord and 7th lord. This shows the native had

some intentions (graha drishti) related to marriage and child when he

committed this murder. A7 in Aries with lord Mars exalted shows a fiery,

dynamic and determined (yet righteous - Jupiter) woman. UL is in Sc. As

the 2nd lord from it (Jupiter) is in a friendly sign in a quadrant from

AL, marriage came easily. But Saturn in 2nd from UL was a maraka and shows

the end of marriage. AL in 12th from UL shows being ignored by wife. The

exalted 8th l

 

Things kind of make sense. If you try the original Cp lagna in this D-60,

things don't quite fall in place.

 

This is how you would interpret a D-60.

 

Don't try D-60 interpretation based on thumbrules. You should first be

familiar with a lot of combinations and principles given in various

classics (regarding rasi chart). Another thing: I never try D-60

interpretation without some meditation. Pray to Jupiter (and/or the

strongest benefic influence on the 2nd house in your chart) and only then

look at somebody's D-60.

 

Never give negative past life readings unless you are very sure of the

birthdata. Negative past life readings can unsettle some people. Don't

abuse this knowledge for some kicks. Use it with utmost responsibility.

 

As far as nadi readings are concerned, realize that some are genuine

(like, perhaps, the above one) but some are definitely fake. Don't be

biased by nadi readings.

 

> well, this can be all like hitting a bush for me but i would like

> to give a try with your esteemed co-operation.

> Regards,

> Nisha

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

PVR

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

 

PS: I've been really busy with work. My participation will be a little low

for sometime.

 

 

 

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Dear Narasimha and revered jyotishi.

 

Hare Rama Krsna.

 

I have a question in regard curses and D-60. If someone will receive a

curse in this life, how could that be seen? If rasi indicates curses from

past life and D-60 from the life before, then what about curses one will

obtain in this life?

 

I also would like to post the chart of a new-born baby boy here, with a

Venus as lagna lord in lagna and being in Devalokamsa: Sep.3, 2002 at

10:00 am in Poland, 23E30, 53N25 GMT +1 DST +1. It seems to me this boy

has a quite high level of spirituality in his chart and might do well as a

sannyasi. Look at the rasi and D-60, do you see a curse from wife in the

past life there?

 

Narasimha, I know you are very busy, but if you get a minute time, could

you tell me something about the phobias from D-60 which I wrote you about

in my chart?

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa

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Dear Sanjay Rath,

 

Hare Rama Krsna.

 

I did a prashna upon receiving your message, because I asked the question

having in mind if I will receive curse in this life. In the prashna chart

(more or less same time as I posted my question yesterday) 6th lord

Mercury is in 6th exalted with Mars and Rahu and Saturn aspecting. Since

the curse cannot come from maternal uncle ( I don't have any) I guess it

would come from an enemy? Could you help me further in this

interpretation?

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa

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Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear Sanjay Rath,Hare Rama Krsna.I did a prashna upon receiving your message,

because I asked the questionhaving in mind if I will receive curse in this

life. In the prashna chart(more or less same time as I posted my question

yesterday) 6th lordMercury is in 6th exalted with Mars and Rahu and Saturn

aspecting. Sincethe curse cannot come from maternal uncle ( I don't have any) I

guess itwould come from an enemy? Could you help me further in

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hi prashantji what u say for people who cast complete horoscope just by prashna

lagna? that would incorporate past present 'life-times' of the soul.

regards,

Nisha

prashant narang <prashantnarang > wrote:

hi i thought prasna is used only for short tome matters, can u use it 4

life-time matters also? prashant Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

wrote: Dear Sanjay Rath,Hare Rama Krsna.I did a prashna upon receiving your

message, because I asked the questionhaving in mind if I will receive curse in

this life. In the prashna chart(more or less same time as I posted my question

yesterday) 6th lordMercury is in 6th exalted with Mars and Rahu and Saturn

aspecting. Sincethe curse cannot come from maternal uncle ( I don't have any) I

guess itwould come from an enemy? Could you help me further in

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Dear Sanjay Rath,

 

Hare Rama Krsna.

 

Jaya Jagannath!

 

If there will be a curse in the natal chart, will it also be seen from the

adhana lagna at time of conception? I'm trying to trace back the adhana

lagna for my chart.

 

>Prasna will not work like that. Doctors cannot give themselves medicine.

 

I see, so I should ask you...

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa

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Dear Sanjay Rath,

 

Hare Rama Krsna.

 

>Adhana is the circumstance that led to your creation and is the 'time of

>the coming together of the atma, mana & the first part of the sareera

>i.e. the Jala Tatwa shall be redominant in this stage. Here the formation

>shall not show the curse as it has to manifest in the Janma which is an

>experience meant for this life. The sooner we realise that it is an

>experience for the atma, just another naubhava, the better off we are,

>else all the pain and what not all.

 

That's a nice point about the experience for the atma. Just now I have

been meditating deeply about this fact. We are not the body, nor the

thoughts of the mind, but pure soul, just experiencing things in this

world as a lesson. Still I'm interested in finding back my adhana lagna,

not for the sake of finding something particular, but for the sake of

exercise. In BPHS Chapter 4, there is system of calculating angular

distance between Gulik and Saturn + difference between 1st house cusp and

9th house cusp and adding the Moon's longitude in the sign if lagna lord

is in the invisible half. This last one is not the case in my chart. How

to calculate the cusps of 1st and 9th house?

 

Thank you for your instruction.

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa