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Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah

Dear Anilkumar,

IF you can give the original text written in Sanskrit or Merely translitterated,

it would be easier for me to help you, otherwise i'm battling with two problems:

 

 

1) Doubt whether the source is correctly translated.

2) Fact that i cannot find those positions to comply within the given time.

 

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Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:57 AM

[vedic astrology] Chart for SriKrishn

Dear FriendsRam Krishn HareDhir Krishna wrote:If the chart given for Krsna as

July 19, 3221 BC in the varahamihira filesis correct, then Balarama should have

been born 1 year? and 8 daysearlier. His time of birth is given as around noon

time in vaisnavacalendar. Yet, I have a difficulty finding the 2 planets in

Devalokamsafor Krsna's chart as given here. Hence, is it

correct?------------------I do not agree with that date. The birth tithi for

balaram is also differentthen you have given above.You also gave some details

about SriKrishna'sbirth based on sixth chapter of the Brahma-vaivarta Purana.I

want to informyou that different puranas describe different Kalpas.So your data

is notapplicable to present Kalpa. Due to the same reason,above date as given

byDr. Raman is also invalid.He used Matsya-Puran to prove that Kali-yug

startedon the day SriKrishna left the world.It is said that in Kaliyug,first

shak-karta is Yudhishthir.SriKrishn existedduring the period of yudhishthir and

after He left earth,Pandavas also wentto himalaya.I am therefore sure that

kaliyug started before He departed.I am inclined to feel that His birth occured

around july 19,3164 BC (+ or - few years/months/days). Since I do not have any

software to calculate dates before 3000 BC,I posted a request about a month

back but so far no onehas replied.Visti seems to have such program but he

remained silent after a query.BTW,Goddess Yogmaya also appeared along with

Srikrishn in Nandgaon.Thereis very little difference in their lagn.This small

difference made a verybig difference in their lives.Any remarks on this?I am

giving below my earlier mail:--------------------Sub:Charts for SriKrishn and

BalramI found some information about the birth of lord Srikrishn and

Balram.This information is from sage Gargachary who made their Horoscopes!!!I

do not have a software that can calculate planetary positions before BC 3000.It

seems that GJ is not capable of doing that.I have no idea about PL.If anyone is

able to do that please help me in determiningthe correct date of birth for the

two lords.This will help us a lotin fixing Ayanansha and also varga-charts.I

have given below somedetails about their birth.But complete charts are not

available.Lord Balarm has birth tithi Bhadrapad-shukla 6.HE was born at mid-day

on wednesday in Tula(libra) lagn.Moon was in Swati-Nakshatr.This puts sun in

Leo.HE has saturn and mercury in exaltation.HE has venus,moon,saturn in

libra,Rahu exalted in Taurus,ketu in scorpio.I did some calculations manually

to find that Lord SriKrishn appearedafter 371 days from the birth of Lord

Balram.Lord SriKrishn was born at midnight of Bhadrapad-Krishna 8 on

wednesday.His birth occured at the time of moon-rise meanslongitude of moon and

lagn are same.Sun-moon yoga was Harshan.Moon was in Rohini-Nakshatr.So sun is in

Leo.( Traditionally position of mercury,venus,saturn,rahu and ketuare shown as

in the Balram's chart.I have not found any referance to it.BTW,what more can

you expect that lagna,moon and sun are vargottam andLagn has 2 exalted

planets!)Birth place is Mathura(UP-India). Lat 27.28 N, Lon 77.41 E, TZ 5:30

EIf someone can do a search in the period between BC 3500-3000 to locatethe

positions,we can fix the correct charts.I would like to get the position of

planets when the tithi falls on wednesday for both charts and saturn is

exalted.Please also give ayanansha values for the Dates.ThanksAnilkumarOM TAT

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Dear Anil,

 

In the first issue of Jyotish Digest (April 2002), I wrote a research

article on the chart of Sri Krishna.

 

Parasara very clearly taught that all of Vishnu's avataras have a

raja yoga between a quadrant lord and a trine lord with BOTH

occupying devalokamsa (strong in 7 out of 10 divisions). This is a

very important clue in fixing Krishna's chart. Similarly,

Yudhishthira's chart must have a raja yoga between 2 planets in

Simhasanamsa (5/10) and the 9th lord must be in Airavatamsa (9/10).

Sri Rama's chart also must have the 9th lord Jupiter in Airavatamsa

as per Parasara.

 

None of the charts given for Krishna earlier come close to that. They

don't have a raja yoga between even Simhasanamsa planets (5/10). They

are clearly wrong. Once we resolve the controversies in (1) the

definition of vaiseshikamsas, (2) ayanamsa, and, (3) hora & trimsamsa

charts, we should be able to find the charts of Krishna and

Yudhishthira using the computer.

 

For the starters, I did an automated search using a computer in

5300BC-1000BC range. I looked for the midnight of Krishna Ashtami

tithi of Jyeshtha/Sravana/Bhadrapada months (used 3 months to

eliminate problems due to corrupted definitions) and considered

ayanamsas in the range (Lahiri ayanamsa-30 arc min) to (Lahiri

ayanamsa+30 arc-min). I looked for a chart in which 2 planets were in

Devalokamsa (I manually checked for the relationship/yoga between

them and did not enforce it in the automated search, in order to

eliminate false rejections). There was only one match:

 

Night of July 6, 2496 BC (extrapolating the Gregorian calendar)

 

It has Taurus lagna with Moon in Gopuramsa in it, Saturn and Venus

(9th/10th/1st lords) with a close raja yoga within 7 arc-min in

Libra, with both occupying devalokamsa. Jupiter is in Gopuramsa in

2nd, exalted Mercury in 5th and Sun & Mars in Leo.

 

For all I know, this chart may not be correct. As I mentioned at the

beginning, we have to resolve 3 issues - ayanamsa, vaiseshikamsa

definition and hora/trimsamsa chart. But, without this Devalokamsa

condition satisfied - even to a small extent - we cannot accept a

chart. None of the charts given by elders for Krishna can be correct.

They are too far off.

 

We'll find the right one. It's a matter of time.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

PVR

 

> Dear Friends

>

> Ram Krishn Hare

>

> Dhir Krishna wrote:

>

> If the chart given for Krsna as July 19, 3221 BC in the

varahamihira

> files

> is correct, then Balarama should have been born 1 year? and 8 days

> earlier. His time of birth is given as around noon time in vaisnava

> calendar. Yet, I have a difficulty finding the 2 planets in

> Devalokamsa

> for Krsna's chart as given here. Hence, is it correct?

> ------------------

> I do not agree with that date. The birth tithi for balaram is also

> different

> then you have given above.You also gave some details about

> SriKrishna's

> birth based on sixth chapter of the Brahma-vaivarta Purana.I want

to

> inform

> you that different puranas describe different Kalpas.So your data

is

> not

> applicable to present Kalpa. Due to the same reason,above date as

> given by

> Dr. Raman is also invalid.He used Matsya-Puran to prove that Kali-

yug

> started

> on the day SriKrishna left the world.

>

> It is said that in Kaliyug,first shak-karta is

Yudhishthir.SriKrishn

> existed

> during the period of yudhishthir and after He left earth,Pandavas

> also went

> to himalaya.I am therefore sure that kaliyug started before He

> departed.

>

> I am inclined to feel that His birth occured around july 19,3164 BC

> (+ or - few years/months/days). Since I do not have any software to

> calculate

> dates before 3000 BC,I posted a request about a month back but so

far

> no one

> has replied.Visti seems to have such program but he remained silent

> after

> a query.

>

> BTW,Goddess Yogmaya also appeared along with Srikrishn in

> Nandgaon.There

> is very little difference in their lagn.This small difference made

a

> very

> big difference in their lives.Any remarks on this?

>

> I am giving below my earlier mail:

> --------------------

> Sub:Charts for SriKrishn and Balram

>

>

> I found some information about the birth of lord Srikrishn and

Balram.

> This information is from sage Gargachary who made their

Horoscopes!!!

> I do not have a software that can calculate planetary positions

> before

> BC 3000.It seems that GJ is not capable of doing that.I have no

idea

> about PL.

>

> If anyone is able to do that please help me in determining

> the correct date of birth for the two lords.This will help us a lot

> in fixing Ayanansha and also varga-charts.I have given below some

> details about their birth.But complete charts are not available.

>

> Lord Balarm has birth tithi Bhadrapad-shukla 6.

> HE was born at mid-day on wednesday in Tula(libra) lagn.

> Moon was in Swati-Nakshatr.This puts sun in Leo.

> HE has saturn and mercury in exaltation.

> HE has venus,moon,saturn in libra,Rahu exalted in Taurus,ketu in

> scorpio.

>

> I did some calculations manually to find that Lord SriKrishn

appeared

> after 371 days from the birth of Lord Balram.

>

> Lord SriKrishn was born at midnight of Bhadrapad-Krishna 8 on

> wednesday.

> His birth occured at the time of moon-rise means

> longitude of moon and lagn are same.Sun-moon yoga was Harshan.

> Moon was in Rohini-Nakshatr.So sun is in Leo.

> ( Traditionally position of mercury,venus,saturn,rahu and ketu

> are shown as in the Balram's chart.I have not found any referance

to

> it.

> BTW,what more can you expect that lagna,moon and sun are vargottam

and

> Lagn has 2 exalted planets!)

>

> Birth place is Mathura(UP-India). Lat 27.28 N, Lon 77.41 E, TZ

5:30

> E

>

>

> If someone can do a search in the period between BC 3500-3000 to

> locate

> the positions,we can fix the correct charts.I would like to get the

> position of planets when the tithi falls on wednesday for both

> charts and saturn is exalted.Please also give ayanansha values for

> the Dates.

>

> Thanks

>

> Anilkumar

>

> OM TAT SAT

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Dear Visti

 

RAM KRISHN HARE

 

I wrote you long back that it is from Garg Samhita.You may have

missed it.

I do not have sanskrit version of it.But similar information appears

at

two different places and can not be wrong.

BTW,which software you are using and what is its accuracy in that

period?

I think tithi search is not available in jyotish programs.What

methods you used for searching?I have not asked for all those

positions.My stress is on

Var/tithi for both charts and moon-rise at mid night for Srikrishn.We

can then try for various combinations of ayanansh/varg/vaiseshikamsa

on each of the searched positions manually. Please note that mid-

night is not 12 AM.

 

Thanks

Anilkumar

 

OM TAT SAT

**************

YOU WROTE:

Dear Anilkumar,

IF you can give the original text written in Sanskrit or Merely

translitterated, it would be easier for me to help you, otherwise i'm

battling with two problems:

 

1) Doubt whether the source is correctly translated.

2) Fact that i cannot find those positions to comply within the given

time.

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Dear Rao PVR

 

RAM KRISHN HARE

 

Thanks for taking so much pains.

But I was interested in getting positions that match day/tithi/moon

rise

at mid night/exalted Saturn.

 

The date given by you falls in Kali-yug so not acceptable.

I feel that the controversies can be resolved after we fix the chart.

We can verify which Ayanansha etc. will give correct results and test

it with other available data.

 

My personal view is all vargas should be cyclic.D-10 is defined as a

cyclic

varg in Tajik-Nilkanthi. D-30 defination and lordships are similar to

D-5.

I feel current D-30 is not the one used by Parashar for difficulties.

The current one is used in Stri-jatak. one can try cyclic D-30,D-40

and D-45.

Cyclic D-2,D-3 are already given in old classics.I found Lahiri

Ayanansha

satisfactory in Vinshottary dasha computation with solar years.I am

however

not willing to initiate any debate on this as it is my own view.

 

I also request you to kindly give all possible meanings for the

verse "Swarudhat kendr nathanam varga grahya sudhimata ....". This is

the key verse for all vargas. Vaiseshikamsa should include these

positions.

 

We can concentrate on Lord Balaram's chart and use information for

Srikrishna's birth to narrow the possibilities.There is no

vaiseshikamsa condition for Lord Balram.

 

BTW,do you have any idea about how long Yudhishthir ruled after

winning

Mahabharat war.

 

I look forward to your reply/Data on both charts.

 

 

Thanks

Anilkumar

 

OM TAT SAT

 

*****************

You wrote:

Re: Chart for SriKrishn

 

 

Dear Anil,

 

In the first issue of Jyotish Digest (April 2002), I wrote a research

article on the chart of Sri Krishna.

 

Parasara very clearly taught that all of Vishnu's avataras have a

raja yoga between a quadrant lord and a trine lord with BOTH

occupying devalokamsa (strong in 7 out of 10 divisions). This is a

very important clue in fixing Krishna's chart. Similarly,

Yudhishthira's chart must have a raja yoga between 2 planets in

Simhasanamsa (5/10) and the 9th lord must be in Airavatamsa (9/10).

Sri Rama's chart also must have the 9th lord Jupiter in Airavatamsa

as per Parasara.

 

None of the charts given for Krishna earlier come close to that. They

don't have a raja yoga between even Simhasanamsa planets (5/10). They

are clearly wrong. Once we resolve the controversies in (1) the

definition of vaiseshikamsas, (2) ayanamsa, and, (3) hora & trimsamsa

charts, we should be able to find the charts of Krishna and

Yudhishthira using the computer.

 

For the starters, I did an automated search using a computer in

5300BC-1000BC range. I looked for the midnight of Krishna Ashtami

tithi of Jyeshtha/Sravana/Bhadrapada months (used 3 months to

eliminate problems due to corrupted definitions) and considered

ayanamsas in the range (Lahiri ayanamsa-30 arc min) to (Lahiri

ayanamsa+30 arc-min). I looked for a chart in which 2 planets were in

Devalokamsa (I manually checked for the relationship/yoga between

them and did not enforce it in the automated search, in order to

eliminate false rejections). There was only one match:

 

Night of July 6, 2496 BC (extrapolating the Gregorian calendar)

 

It has Taurus lagna with Moon in Gopuramsa in it, Saturn and Venus

(9th/10th/1st lords) with a close raja yoga within 7 arc-min in

Libra, with both occupying devalokamsa. Jupiter is in Gopuramsa in

2nd, exalted Mercury in 5th and Sun & Mars in Leo.

 

For all I know, this chart may not be correct. As I mentioned at the

beginning, we have to resolve 3 issues - ayanamsa, vaiseshikamsa

definition and hora/trimsamsa chart. But, without this Devalokamsa

condition satisfied - even to a small extent - we cannot accept a

chart. None of the charts given by elders for Krishna can be correct.

They are too far off.

 

We'll find the right one. It's a matter of time.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

PVR

 

> ------------------

> Sub:Charts for SriKrishn and Balram

 

> I have given below some details about their birth.

> But complete charts are not available.

>

> Lord Balarm has birth tithi Bhadrapad-shukla 6.

> HE was born at mid-day on wednesday in Tula(libra) lagn.

> Moon was in Swati-Nakshatr.This puts sun in Leo.

> HE has saturn and mercury in exaltation.

> HE has venus,moon,saturn in libra,Rahu exalted in Taurus,ketu in

> scorpio.

>

> I did some calculations manually to find that Lord SriKrishn

appeared

> after 371 days from the birth of Lord Balram.

>

> Lord SriKrishn was born at midnight of Bhadrapad-Krishna 8 on

> wednesday.

> His birth occured at the time of moon-rise means

> longitude of moon and lagn are same.Sun-moon yoga was Harshan.

> Moon was in Rohini-Nakshatr.So sun is in Leo.

> ( Traditionally position of mercury,venus,saturn,rahu and ketu

> are shown as in the Balram's chart.I have not found any referance

> to it.

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Dear Anilkumar,

 

Namaste.

 

>But I was interested in getting positions that match day/tithi/moon

>rise at mid night/exalted Saturn.

 

Moon should also be in Rohini nakshatra. Are you sure Moon should be

exactly rising at midnight or would already have been rising before birth,

which is exactly at midnight?

 

>The date given by you falls in Kali-yug so not acceptable.

 

Don't dismiss the date given by Narasimha Rao on the basis of bias

regarding the start of Kali-yuga. After all, we do not know for sure when

Kali-yuga started and this date may help us understand it better. While I

was doing my own research on the start of Kali-yuga recently, I calculated

using Deva-datta ayanamsa and found the date of around 2500 BC to be

correct. Now that Narasimha found this date so close to it, I am inclined

to accept it as accurate. I only found the date of July 7th 2496 BC, at

the exact start of Ashtami tithi at 0:13 to be correct. On that same day,

the Moon is rising exactly at midnight at 23:57, but then is already in

Mrgasira nakshatra and in Navami tithi. It would be just after midnight on

the 7th July, ascendant should be Gemini instead of Taurus to put Jupiter

and Venus in trines, which is the Jayanti yoga explained in the

scriptures, giving undying fame and glory. Exalted Moon in the 12th,

aspected by 12th lord and exalted Saturn should explain the separation

from mother, who was in the prison during His time in Vrndavan.

 

Do we know the reference of Yudhisthira's birth according to the date of

Krsna, I mean the number of years of difference in age and his birthdate?

Is it mentioned somewhere in sastra? It would be interesting to find out

his chart, in order to be sure. Are there any references for the charts of

the other Pandavas and of the birth of Maharaja Pariksit?

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa

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Namaste all listed members,

Recently in one of the old books I saw about the birth informations of Sri

Krishna.It is in Sanskrit.So those who can understand this Shloka ,I think it

may be of use to find out the exact date of birth of Sri Krishna ;

It says like this :SWASTI SRI MADBHAGAVATHO MAHAPURUSHASYA PRAVARTHAMAANASYA

BRAHMANAM DWITEEYA PARARDHE SHWETAVARAHA KALPE VAIVASWATA MANVANTARE

ASHTAVIMSHATITAME MAHAYUGANTARGAThA DWAPARA YUGASYA 8,63,900 NAVA SHATYTTARA

TRISHASHTI SAHASRAADHIKASHTA LAKSHANI 100 AEKA SHAThAANI ThADhA PRAVARTAMAANE

VIRODHI NAAMA SAMVATSARE, DAKSHINAAYANE ,VARSHA RITAU, SHRAVANA MAASE, KRISHNA

PAKSHE ,ASHTAMI ThITHOU,BUDHAVASARE 50-44,ROHINI 52-51,VAJRA YOGA 53-20,BAVA

KARANA 27 ; EVAM PANCHANGA SHUDDHESMIN DINE SRI MAARTAANADA MANDALAARDHO

UDAYAAT GAThA GHATIKA 45-05 ,VRISHABHA LAGNODAYE PUNYODAYA VEELAYAAM JAMBU

DWEEPE BHARAThA KHANDE YAMUNA ThEERE SRI MANMATHURA NAGARA SRI SOMA

VAMSHOTPANNA SHOORASENA RAJATMAJA SRI VASUDEVA RAJA VIRAAJAMANASThASYA GRIHE

,YAA SAUBHAGYADYA AKHILA GUNA SAMPANNA DEVAKI ThASYA UDARE KARAGRIHE ASHTAMA

PUTRASYA SRI KRISHNASYA JANMAABHOOTh.

I hope this will be of help to those Gurus who can now find out the exact year

and date of birth of Sri Krishna Bhagavaan.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

 

Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear Anilkumar,Namaste.>But I was interested in getting positions that match

day/tithi/moon>rise at mid night/exalted Saturn.Moon should also be in Rohini

nakshatra. Are you sure Moon should beexactly rising at midnight or would

already have been rising before birth,which is exactly at midnight?>The date

given by you falls in Kali-yug so not acceptable.Don't dismiss the date given

by Narasimha Rao on the basis of biasregarding the start of Kali-yuga. After

all, we do not know for sure whenKali-yuga started and this date may help us

understand it better. While Iwas doing my own research on the start of

Kali-yuga recently, I calculatedusing Deva-datta ayanamsa and found the date of

around 2500 BC to becorrect. Now that Narasimha found this date so close to it,

I am inclinedto accept it as accurate. I only found the date of July 7th 2496

BC, atthe exact start of Ashtami tithi at 0:13 to be correct. On that same

day,the Moon is rising exactly at midnight at 23:57, but then is already

inMrgasira nakshatra and in Navami tithi. It would be just after midnight onthe

7th July, ascendant should be Gemini instead of Taurus to put Jupiterand Venus

in trines, which is the Jayanti yoga explained in thescriptures, giving undying

fame and glory. Exalted Moon in the 12th,aspected by 12th lord and exalted

Saturn should explain the separationfrom mother, who was in the prison during

His time in Vrndavan.Do we know the reference of Yudhisthira's birth according

to the date ofKrsna, I mean the number of years of difference in age and his

birthdate?Is it mentioned somewhere in sastra? It would be interesting to find

outhis chart, in order to be sure. Are there any references for the charts

ofthe other Pandavas and of the birth of Maharaja Pariksit?Your sishya,Dhira

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Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om

Dear Ramadas,

Thankyou for this priceless contribution. However which classic is this from?

Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat

Parasara Hora Shastra:

vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html

-

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vedic astrology

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:41 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Chart for SriKrishn

OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Namaste all listed members, Recently in one of the old

books I saw about the birth informations of Sri Krishna.It is in Sanskrit.So

those who can understand this Shloka ,I think it may be of use to find out the

exact date of birth of Sri Krishna ; It says like this :SWASTI SRI

MADBHAGAVATHO MAHAPURUSHASYA PRAVARTHAMAANASYA BRAHMANAM DWITEEYA PARARDHE

SHWETAVARAHA KALPE VAIVASWATA MANVANTARE ASHTAVIMSHATITAME MAHAYUGANTARGAThA

DWAPARA YUGASYA 8,63,900 NAVA SHATYTTARA TRISHASHTI SAHASRAADHIKASHTA LAKSHANI

100 AEKA SHAThAANI ThADhA PRAVARTAMAANE VIRODHI NAAMA SAMVATSARE, DAKSHINAAYANE

,VARSHA RITAU, SHRAVANA MAASE, KRISHNA PAKSHE ,ASHTAMI ThITHOU,BUDHAVASARE

50-44,ROHINI 52-51,VAJRA YOGA 53-20,BAVA KARANA 27 ; EVAM PANCHANGA SHUDDHESMIN

DINE SRI MAARTAANADA MANDALAARDHO UDAYAAT GAThA GHATIKA 45-05 ,VRISHABHA

LAGNODAYE PUNYODAYA VEELAYAAM JAMBU DWEEPE BHARAThA KHANDE YAMUNA ThEERE SRI

MANMATHURA NAGARA SRI SOMA VAMSHOTPANNA SHOORASENA RAJATMAJA SRI VASUDEVA RAJA

VIRAAJAMANASThASYA GRIHE ,YAA SAUBHAGYADYA AKHILA GUNA SAMPANNA DEVAKI ThASYA

UDARE KARAGRIHE ASHTAMA PUTRASYA SRI KRISHNASYA JANMAABHOOTh. I hope this will

be of help to those Gurus who can now find out the exact year and date of birth

of Sri Krishna Bhagavaan. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Dhira Krsna BCS

<Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Anilkumar,Namaste.>But I was interested

in getting positions that match day/tithi/moon>rise at mid night/exalted

Saturn.Moon should also be in Rohini nakshatra. Are you sure Moon should

beexactly rising at midnight or would already have been rising before

birth,which is exactly at midnight?>The date given by you falls in Kali-yug so

not acceptable.Don't dismiss the date given by Narasimha Rao on the basis of

biasregarding the start of Kali-yuga. After all, we do not know for sure

whenKali-yuga started and this date may help us understand it better. While

Iwas doing my own research on the start of Kali-yuga recently, I

calculatedusing Deva-datta ayanamsa and found the date of around 2500 BC to

becorrect. Now that Narasimha found this date so close to it, I am inclinedto

accept it as accurate. I only found the date of July 7th 2496 BC, atthe exact

start of Ashtami tithi at 0:13 to be correct. On that same day,the Moon is

rising exactly at midnight at 23:57, but then is already inMrgasira nakshatra

and in Navami tithi. It would be just after midnight onthe 7th July, ascendant

should be Gemini instead of Taurus to put Jupiterand Venus in trines, which is

the Jayanti yoga explained in thescriptures, giving undying fame and glory.

Exalted Moon in the 12th,aspected by 12th lord and exalted Saturn should

explain the separationfrom mother, who was in the prison during His time in

Vrndavan.Do we know the reference of Yudhisthira's birth according to the date

ofKrsna, I mean the number of years of difference in age and his birthdate?Is

it mentioned somewhere in sastra? It would be interesting to find outhis chart,

in order to be sure. Are there any references for the charts ofthe other

Pandavas and of the birth of Maharaja Pariksit?Your sishya,Dhira Krsna

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Namaste Visti,

The information which I gave is from a book about Sri Vishnu Sahasra Naama and

and Sri Krishna Ashtottara Shatanaama Stotra with comments on Janmashtami Pooja

written by a famous Panchanga Vidwan Sri Padmanabha Acharya from Udipi which is

near to Mangalore.But from which classics he has taken has to be confirmed by

him only.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

Visti Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:

Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om

Dear Ramadas,

Thankyou for this priceless contribution. However which classic is this from?

Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat

Parasara Hora Shastra:

vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html

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vedic astrology

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:41 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Chart for SriKrishn

OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Namaste all listed members, Recently in one of the old

books I saw about the birth informations of Sri Krishna.It is in Sanskrit.So

those who can understand this Shloka ,I think it may be of use to find out the

exact date of birth of Sri Krishna ; It says like this :SWASTI SRI

MADBHAGAVATHO MAHAPURUSHASYA PRAVARTHAMAANASYA BRAHMANAM DWITEEYA PARARDHE

SHWETAVARAHA KALPE VAIVASWATA MANVANTARE ASHTAVIMSHATITAME MAHAYUGANTARGAThA

DWAPARA YUGASYA 8,63,900 NAVA SHATYTTARA TRISHASHTI SAHASRAADHIKASHTA LAKSHANI

100 AEKA SHAThAANI ThADhA PRAVARTAMAANE VIRODHI NAAMA SAMVATSARE, DAKSHINAAYANE

,VARSHA RITAU, SHRAVANA MAASE, KRISHNA PAKSHE ,ASHTAMI ThITHOU,BUDHAVASARE

50-44,ROHINI 52-51,VAJRA YOGA 53-20,BAVA KARANA 27 ; EVAM PANCHANGA SHUDDHESMIN

DINE SRI MAARTAANADA MANDALAARDHO UDAYAAT GAThA GHATIKA 45-05 ,VRISHABHA

LAGNODAYE PUNYODAYA VEELAYAAM JAMBU DWEEPE BHARAThA KHANDE YAMUNA ThEERE SRI

MANMATHURA NAGARA SRI SOMA VAMSHOTPANNA SHOORASENA RAJATMAJA SRI VASUDEVA RAJA

VIRAAJAMANASThASYA GRIHE ,YAA SAUBHAGYADYA AKHILA GUNA SAMPANNA DEVAKI ThASYA

UDARE KARAGRIHE ASHTAMA PUTRASYA SRI KRISHNASYA JANMAABHOOTh. I hope this will

be of help to those Gurus who can now find out the exact year and date of birth

of Sri Krishna Bhagavaan. With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Anilkumar,Namaste.>But

I was interested in getting positions that match day/tithi/moon>rise at mid

night/exalted Saturn.Moon should also be in Rohini nakshatra. Are you sure Moon

should beexactly rising at midnight or would already have been rising before

birth,which is exactly at midnight?>The date given by you falls in Kali-yug so

not acceptable.Don't dismiss the date given by Narasimha Rao on the basis of

biasregarding the start of Kali-yuga. After all, we do not know for sure

whenKali-yuga started and this date may help us understand it better. While

Iwas doing my own research on the start of Kali-yuga recently, I

calculatedusing Deva-datta ayanamsa and found the date of around 2500 BC to

becorrect. Now that Narasimha found this date so close to it, I am inclinedto

accept it as accurate. I only found the date of July 7th 2496 BC, atthe exact

start of Ashtami tithi at 0:13 to be correct. On that same day,the Moon is

rising exactly at midnight at 23:57, but then is already inMrgasira nakshatra

and in Navami tithi. It would be just after midnight onthe 7th July, ascendant

should be Gemini instead of Taurus to put Jupiterand Venus in trines, which is

the Jayanti yoga explained in thescriptures, giving undying fame and glory.

Exalted Moon in the 12th,aspected by 12th lord and exalted Saturn should

explain the separationfrom mother, who was in the prison during His time in

Vrndavan.Do we know the reference of Yudhisthira's birth according to the date

ofKrsna, I mean the number of years of difference in age and his birthdate?Is

it mentioned somewhere in sastra? It would be interesting to find outhis chart,

in order to be sure. Are there any references for the charts ofthe other

Pandavas and of the birth of Maharaja Pariksit?Your sishya,Dhira Krsna

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Shree Vishnusahashra Nama is as told by BHISMA to Yudhistira. This is frm the

original MAHABHARATA. I do not know the exct chapter.

 

--- Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:

>

> OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA

> Namaste Visti,

> The information which I gave is from a book about Sri Vishnu Sahasra Naama

> and and Sri Krishna Ashtottara Shatanaama Stotra with comments on Janmashtami

> Pooja written by a famous Panchanga Vidwan Sri Padmanabha Acharya from Udipi

> which is near to Mangalore.But from which classics he has taken has to be

> confirmed by him only.

> With best regards,

> Ramadas Rao.

> Visti Larsen <vishnu wrote:Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah

> Jum Om

>

> Dear Ramadas,Thankyou for this priceless contribution. However which classic

> is this from?Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra:

> vedic astrologybphs.zip

> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html-----

> Original Message ----- Ramadas Rao vedic astrology

> Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:41 PMRe: [vedic astrology] Re:

> Chart for SriKrishn

>

> OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA

> Namaste all listed members,

> Recently in one of the old books I saw about the birth informations of Sri

> Krishna.It is in Sanskrit.So those who can understand this Shloka ,I think it

> may be of use to find out the exact date of birth of Sri Krishna ;

> It says like this :SWASTI SRI MADBHAGAVATHO MAHAPURUSHASYA PRAVARTHAMAANASYA

> BRAHMANAM DWITEEYA PARARDHE SHWETAVARAHA KALPE VAIVASWATA MANVANTARE

> ASHTAVIMSHATITAME MAHAYUGANTARGAThA DWAPARA YUGASYA 8,63,900 NAVA SHATYTTARA

> TRISHASHTI SAHASRAADHIKASHTA LAKSHANI 100 AEKA SHAThAANI ThADhA PRAVARTAMAANE

> VIRODHI NAAMA SAMVATSARE, DAKSHINAAYANE ,VARSHA RITAU, SHRAVANA MAASE,

> KRISHNA PAKSHE ,ASHTAMI ThITHOU,BUDHAVASARE 50-44,ROHINI 52-51,VAJRA YOGA

> 53-20,BAVA KARANA 27 ; EVAM PANCHANGA SHUDDHESMIN DINE SRI MAARTAANADA

> MANDALAARDHO UDAYAAT GAThA GHATIKA 45-05 ,VRISHABHA LAGNODAYE PUNYODAYA

> VEELAYAAM JAMBU DWEEPE BHARAThA KHANDE YAMUNA ThEERE SRI MANMATHURA NAGARA

> SRI SOMA VAMSHOTPANNA SHOORASENA RAJATMAJA SRI VASUDEVA RAJA

> VIRAAJAMANASThASYA GRIHE ,YAA SAUBHAGYADYA AKHILA GUNA SAMPANNA DEVAKI ThASYA

> UDARE KARAGRIHE ASHTAMA PUTRASYA SRI KRISHNASYA JANMAABHOOTh.

> I hope this will be of help to those Gurus who can now find out the exact

> year and date of birth of Sri Krishna Bhagavaan.

> With best regards,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS wrote: Dear Anilkumar,

>

> Namaste.

>

> >But I was interested in getting positions that match day/tithi/moon

> >rise at mid night/exalted Saturn.

>

> Moon should also be in Rohini nakshatra. Are you sure Moon should be

> exactly rising at midnight or would already have been rising before birth,

> which is exactly at midnight?

>

> >The date given by you falls in Kali-yug so not acceptable.

>

> Don't dismiss the date given by Narasimha Rao on the basis of bias

> regarding the start of Kali-yuga. After all, we do not know for sure when

> Kali-yuga started and this date may help us understand it better. While I

> was doing my own research on the start of Kali-yuga recently, I calculated

> using Deva-datta ayanamsa and found the date of around 2500 BC to be

> correct. Now that Narasimha found this date so close to it, I am inclined

> to accept it as accurate. I only found the date of July 7th 2496 BC, at

> the exact start of Ashtami tithi at 0:13 to be correct. On that same day,

> the Moon is rising exactly at midnight at 23:57, but then is already in

> Mrgasira nakshatra and in Navami tithi. It would be just after midnight on

> the 7th July, ascendant should be Gemini instead of Taurus to put Jupiter

> and Venus in trines, which is the Jayanti yoga explained in the

> scriptures, giving undying fame and glory. Exalted Moon in the 12th,

> aspected by 12th lord and exalted Saturn should explain the separation

> from mother, who was in the prison during His time in Vrndavan.

>

> Do we know the reference of Yudhisthira's birth according to the date of

> Krsna, I mean the number of years of difference in age and his birthdate?

> Is it mentioned somewhere in sastra? It would be interesting to find out

> his chart, in order to be sure. Are there any references for the charts of

> the other Pandavas and of the birth of Maharaja Pariksit?

>

> Your sishya,

> Dhira Krsna dasa

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Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om

Dear Ramadas and Sridhar,

Thanx for the help. I will work on the calculations, however i have noted 1

error. Bava Karana cannot fall on Krishna Asthami, likely it should read Balava

Karana.

Most accept Sreemukha Samvatsara as the birth year of Krishna, it would be

interesting to pinpoint the same using Virodhi samvatsara.. oh well now to get

down and dirty with the calculations.

Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat

Parasara Hora Shastra:

vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html

-

"sridhar k" <kopparsa >

<vedic astrology>

Friday, November 22, 2002 8:29 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Chart for SriKrishn

> > Shree Vishnusahashra Nama is as told by BHISMA to Yudhistira. This is frm

the> original MAHABHARATA. I do not know the exct chapter.> > --- Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA> > Namaste

Visti,> > The information which I gave is from a book about Sri Vishnu Sahasra

Naama> > and and Sri Krishna Ashtottara Shatanaama Stotra with comments on

Janmashtami> > Pooja written by a famous Panchanga Vidwan Sri Padmanabha

Acharya from Udipi> > which is near to Mangalore.But from which classics he has

taken has to be> > confirmed by him only.> > With best regards,> > Ramadas Rao.>

> Visti Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah>

> Jum Om> > > > Dear Ramadas,Thankyou for this

priceless contribution. However which classic> > is this from?Best wishes> >

Visti> > ---> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > Brihat

Parasara Hora Shastra:> >

vedic astrologybphs.zip> > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html-----> > Original

Message ----- Ramadas Rao vedic astrology> > Sent:

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:41 PMRe: [vedic astrology] Re:> > Chart

for SriKrishn> > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA > > Namaste all listed members, >

> Recently in one of the old books I saw about the birth informations of Sri> >

Krishna.It is in Sanskrit.So those who can understand this Shloka ,I think it>

> may be of use to find out the exact date of birth of Sri Krishna ; > > It

says like this :SWASTI SRI MADBHAGAVATHO MAHAPURUSHASYA PRAVARTHAMAANASYA> >

BRAHMANAM DWITEEYA PARARDHE SHWETAVARAHA KALPE VAIVASWATA MANVANTARE> >

ASHTAVIMSHATITAME MAHAYUGANTARGAThA DWAPARA YUGASYA 8,63,900 NAVA SHATYTTARA> >

TRISHASHTI SAHASRAADHIKASHTA LAKSHANI 100 AEKA SHAThAANI ThADhA PRAVARTAMAANE> >

VIRODHI NAAMA SAMVATSARE, DAKSHINAAYANE ,VARSHA RITAU, SHRAVANA MAASE,> >

KRISHNA PAKSHE ,ASHTAMI ThITHOU,BUDHAVASARE 50-44,ROHINI 52-51,VAJRA YOGA> >

53-20,BAVA KARANA 27 ; EVAM PANCHANGA SHUDDHESMIN DINE SRI MAARTAANADA> >

MANDALAARDHO UDAYAAT GAThA GHATIKA 45-05 ,VRISHABHA LAGNODAYE PUNYODAYA> >

VEELAYAAM JAMBU DWEEPE BHARAThA KHANDE YAMUNA ThEERE SRI MANMATHURA NAGARA> >

SRI SOMA VAMSHOTPANNA SHOORASENA RAJATMAJA SRI VASUDEVA RAJA> >

VIRAAJAMANASThASYA GRIHE ,YAA SAUBHAGYADYA AKHILA GUNA SAMPANNA DEVAKI ThASYA>

> UDARE KARAGRIHE ASHTAMA PUTRASYA SRI KRISHNASYA JANMAABHOOTh. > > I hope this

will be of help to those Gurus who can now find out the exact> > year and date

of birth of Sri Krishna Bhagavaan. > > With best regards, > > Ramadas Rao. > >

> > Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Anilkumar,> > > >

Namaste.> > > > >But I was interested in getting positions that match

day/tithi/moon> > >rise at mid night/exalted Saturn.> > > > Moon should also be

in Rohini nakshatra. Are you sure Moon should be> > exactly rising at midnight

or would already have been rising before birth,> > which is exactly at

midnight?> > > > >The date given by you falls in Kali-yug so not acceptable.> >

> > Don't dismiss the date given by Narasimha Rao on the basis of bias> >

regarding the start of Kali-yuga. After all, we do not know for sure when> >

Kali-yuga started and this date may help us understand it better. While I> >

was doing my own research on the start of Kali-yuga recently, I calculated> >

using Deva-datta ayanamsa and found the date of around 2500 BC to be> >

correct. Now that Narasimha found this date so close to it, I am inclined> > to

accept it as accurate. I only found the date of July 7th 2496 BC, at> > the

exact start of Ashtami tithi at 0:13 to be correct. On that same day,> > the

Moon is rising exactly at midnight at 23:57, but then is already in> > Mrgasira

nakshatra and in Navami tithi. It would be just after midnight on> > the 7th

July, ascendant should be Gemini instead of Taurus to put Jupiter> > and Venus

in trines, which is the Jayanti yoga explained in the> > scriptures, giving

undying fame and glory. Exalted Moon in the 12th,> > aspected by 12th lord and

exalted Saturn should explain the separation> > from mother, who was in the

prison during His time in Vrndavan.> > > > Do we know the reference of

Yudhisthira's birth according to the date of> > Krsna, I mean the number of

years of difference in age and his birthdate?> > Is it mentioned somewhere in

sastra? It would be interesting to find out> > his chart, in order to be sure.

Are there any references for the charts of> > the other Pandavas and of the

birth of Maharaja Pariksit?> > > > Your sishya,> > Dhira Krsna dasa> > > >

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Namaste all,

 

Mahabharata does give Vishnu Sahasra Nama Stotram, but does not give

what Ramadas Rao quoted. The scholar who compiled the stotras most

probably had a particular chart in mind (based on whatever siddhanta

and ayanamsa used by him) and worked out karana, vara, yoga, tithi

etc based on it. I do not think all these details were given in any

classic.

 

For example, I found a chart with 2 Devalokamsa planets conjoining

within 7 arc-min giving a raja yoga as said by Parasara regarding

Vishnu's avataras. In one of my books in future, I can make up a

verse on Krishna's birthdata using this chart and give tithi, yoga,

karana, vaara etc.

 

In all probability, this is what Sri Padmanabha Acharya did. To the

best of my knowledge, such details were not given in any classic. All

the objective data we know from various classics (e.g. Rohini,

midnight, Taurus lagna etc) has already been listed by Dr. Raman and

others.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

PVR

 

> Dear Ramadas and Sridhar,

> Thanx for the help. I will work on the calculations, however i have

noted 1 error. Bava Karana cannot fall on Krishna Asthami, likely it

should read Balava Karana.

> Most accept Sreemukha Samvatsara as the birth year of Krishna, it

would be interesting to pinpoint the same using Virodhi samvatsara..

oh well now to get down and dirty with the calculations.

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic-

astrologybphs.zip

> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-

ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html

> -

> "sridhar k" <kopparsa>

> <vedic astrology>

> Friday, November 22, 2002 8:29 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Chart for SriKrishn

>

>

> >

> > Shree Vishnusahashra Nama is as told by BHISMA to Yudhistira.

This is frm the

> > original MAHABHARATA. I do not know the exct chapter.

> >

> > --- Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:

> > >

> > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA

> > > Namaste Visti,

> > > The information which I gave is from a book about Sri Vishnu

Sahasra Naama

> > > and and Sri Krishna Ashtottara Shatanaama Stotra with comments

on Janmashtami

> > > Pooja written by a famous Panchanga Vidwan Sri Padmanabha

Acharya from Udipi

> > > which is near to Mangalore.But from which classics he has taken

has to be

> > > confirmed by him only.

> > > With best regards,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote:Om Jum Sah. Vyam

Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah

> > > Jum Om

> > >

> > > Dear Ramadas,Thankyou for this priceless contribution. However

which classic

> > > is this from?Best wishes

> > > Visti

> > > ---

> > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra:

> > > vedic astrologybphs.zip

> > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-

ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html-----

> > > Original Message ----- Ramadas Rao vedic-

astrology

> > > Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:41 PMRe: [vedic-

astrology] Re:

> > > Chart for SriKrishn

> > >

> > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA

> > > Namaste all listed members,

> > > Recently in one of the old books I saw about the birth

informations of Sri

> > > Krishna.It is in Sanskrit.So those who can understand this

Shloka ,I think it

> > > may be of use to find out the exact date of birth of Sri

Krishna ;

> > > It says like this :SWASTI SRI MADBHAGAVATHO MAHAPURUSHASYA

PRAVARTHAMAANASYA

> > > BRAHMANAM DWITEEYA PARARDHE SHWETAVARAHA KALPE VAIVASWATA

MANVANTARE

> > > ASHTAVIMSHATITAME MAHAYUGANTARGAThA DWAPARA YUGASYA 8,63,900

NAVA SHATYTTARA

> > > TRISHASHTI SAHASRAADHIKASHTA LAKSHANI 100 AEKA SHAThAANI ThADhA

PRAVARTAMAANE

> > > VIRODHI NAAMA SAMVATSARE, DAKSHINAAYANE ,VARSHA RITAU, SHRAVANA

MAASE,

> > > KRISHNA PAKSHE ,ASHTAMI ThITHOU,BUDHAVASARE 50-44,ROHINI 52-

51,VAJRA YOGA

> > > 53-20,BAVA KARANA 27 ; EVAM PANCHANGA SHUDDHESMIN DINE SRI

MAARTAANADA

> > > MANDALAARDHO UDAYAAT GAThA GHATIKA 45-05 ,VRISHABHA LAGNODAYE

PUNYODAYA

> > > VEELAYAAM JAMBU DWEEPE BHARAThA KHANDE YAMUNA ThEERE SRI

MANMATHURA NAGARA

> > > SRI SOMA VAMSHOTPANNA SHOORASENA RAJATMAJA SRI VASUDEVA RAJA

> > > VIRAAJAMANASThASYA GRIHE ,YAA SAUBHAGYADYA AKHILA GUNA SAMPANNA

DEVAKI ThASYA

> > > UDARE KARAGRIHE ASHTAMA PUTRASYA SRI KRISHNASYA JANMAABHOOTh.

> > > I hope this will be of help to those Gurus who can now find out

the exact

> > > year and date of birth of Sri Krishna Bhagavaan.

> > > With best regards,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

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OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA

Namaste Visti and Narasimha Raoji,

I gave to the list what I read.But as Sri Padmanabha

Acharya is a Panchanga Vidwan it is possible that he

might have calculated by going through some classics

and arrived at his own figure.So if you find there is

any discrepeny in this,please discard this.

Thanks and with best regards,

Ramadas Rao.--- pvr108 <pvr wrote:

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stotras most <BR>

probably had a particular chart in mind (based on

whatever siddhanta <BR>

and ayanamsa used by him) and worked out karana, vara,

yoga, tithi <BR>

etc based on it. I do not think all these details were

given in any <BR>

classic.<BR>

<BR>

For example, I found a chart with 2 Devalokamsa

planets conjoining <BR>

within 7 arc-min giving a raja yoga as said by

Parasara regarding <BR>

Vishnu's avataras. In one of my books in future, I can

make up a <BR>

verse on Krishna's birthdata using this chart and give

tithi, yoga, <BR>

karana, vaara etc.<BR>

<BR>

In all probability, this is what Sri Padmanabha

Acharya did. To the <BR>

best of my knowledge, such details were not given in

any classic. All <BR>

the objective data we know from various classics (e.g.

Rohini, <BR>

midnight, Taurus lagna etc) has already been listed by

Dr. Raman and <BR>

others.<BR>

<BR>

May Jupiter's light shine on us,<BR>

PVR<BR>

<BR>

> Dear Ramadas and Sridhar,<BR>

> Thanx for the help. I will work on the

calculations, however i have <BR>

noted 1 error. Bava Karana cannot fall on Krishna

Asthami, likely it <BR>

should read Balava Karana.<BR>

> Most accept Sreemukha Samvatsara as the birth

year of Krishna, it <BR>

would be interesting to pinpoint the same using

Virodhi samvatsara.. <BR>

oh well now to get down and dirty with the

calculations.<BR>

> Best wishes<BR>

> Visti<BR>

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Hare Rama Krsna!

 

Jaya Jagannath!

 

I did some research today and found the interesting quote from Brahmanda

Purana, where Lord Krishna's appearance in this Varaha Kalpa and

Vaisvasvat Manvantara is described. It reads:

 

"The asterism on the day Krsna was born was Abhijit. The night was called

Jayanti, which is the 8th tithi of the dark half of the month of Sravana,

the asterism of Rohini was rising at midnight, and the Muhurta was called

Vijaya."

 

We could ask ourselves: what is the meaning of the asterism being Abhijit?

Someone knows which Muhurta is called Vijaya?

 

A comment on Ramadas Rao's text, if indeed this yoga was present:

 

VAJRA YOGA: all benefics in lagna and 7th house, or all malefics in 4th

and 10th house. I would opt for all malefics in 4th and 10th house, since

Venus, lagna lord is a benefic and cannot be in lagna or 7th, since it's

never so far from Sun, who is in 4th house.

 

Furthermore, to possible enhance our search for Lord Krishna's chart,

Srila Prabhupada writes in his Krsna-Book, a summary of the 10th canto of

Srimad-Bhagavatam, that Lord Krsna's birth details are nicely represented

in an astronomical work, called Khamanikya. Anyone knows about this work?

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa

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Friends,

 

I came across an interesting version of Lord Sri

Krishna's chart almost 10 yrs ago. Unfortunately, I

don't remember the exact postions (degrees & min) of

the planets. I am sure that article must be lying

somewhere backhome in India. I will try to get that

article from India...until then here is some food for

thought for all of us..

 

Lagna,Moon,Rahu in Taurus,

Sun in Leo,

Merc in Virgo,

Venus in Libra,

Mars,Ketu in Scorpio,

Jupiter in Sagitarius

Saturn in Capricorn

 

Each planet is either exalted or in its home !

 

thanks

 

Vishnu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna!

>

> Jaya Jagannath!

>

> I did some research today and found the interesting

> quote from Brahmanda

> Purana, where Lord Krishna's appearance in this

> Varaha Kalpa and

> Vaisvasvat Manvantara is described. It reads:

>

> "The asterism on the day Krsna was born was Abhijit.

> The night was called

> Jayanti, which is the 8th tithi of the dark half of

> the month of Sravana,

> the asterism of Rohini was rising at midnight, and

> the Muhurta was called

> Vijaya."

>

> We could ask ourselves: what is the meaning of the

> asterism being Abhijit?

> Someone knows which Muhurta is called Vijaya?

>

> A comment on Ramadas Rao's text, if indeed this yoga

> was present:

>

> VAJRA YOGA: all benefics in lagna and 7th house, or

> all malefics in 4th

> and 10th house. I would opt for all malefics in 4th

> and 10th house, since

> Venus, lagna lord is a benefic and cannot be in

> lagna or 7th, since it's

> never so far from Sun, who is in 4th house.

>

> Furthermore, to possible enhance our search for Lord

> Krishna's chart,

> Srila Prabhupada writes in his Krsna-Book, a summary

> of the 10th canto of

> Srimad-Bhagavatam, that Lord Krsna's birth details

> are nicely represented

> in an astronomical work, called Khamanikya. Anyone

> knows about this work?

>

> Your sishya,

> Dhira Krsna dasa

>

 

 

 

 

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Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om

Dear Dhira,

Yoga can also be 1 of the Pancha-angas, which is most likely incase of mentioning times of birth.

 

There are 27 Yoga, calculated by taking the longitude of the Sun and Moon, and

adding them. Thereafter remove multiples of 360 degrees, and add the result to

the degree of Pusya Nakshetra. The result will give a nakshetra. Do read

Narasimhas writing where he describes the use of the panchaanga.

 

Here are the 27 yogas counted from pusya;

 

S.No. Yoga Lord

 

1. Vishkumbha Sat.2. Priti Merc.3. Ayusman Ketu4. Saubhagya Ven.5.

Shobhna Sun6. Atiganda Moon7. Sukarma Mars8. Dhriti Rahu9. Shula

Jup.10. Ganda Sat.11. Vridhi Merc.12. Dhruva Ketu13. Vyaghata Ven14.

Harshna Sun15. Vajra Moon16. Siddhi Mars17. Vyatipata Rahu18. Variyan

Jup.19. Parigha Sat.20. Shiva Merc.21. Siddha Ketu22. Sadhya Ven.23.

Shubha Sun24. Shukla Moon25. Brahma Mars26. Indra Rahu27. Vaidhriti

Jup.

 

Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat

Parasara Hora Shastra:

vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font:

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Dhira Krsna BCS

vedic astrology

Monday, November 25, 2002 7:26 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Chart for SriKrishn

Hare Rama Krsna!Jaya Jagannath!I did some research today and found the

interesting quote from BrahmandaPurana, where Lord Krishna's appearance in this

Varaha Kalpa andVaisvasvat Manvantara is described. It reads:"The asterism on

the day Krsna was born was Abhijit. The night was calledJayanti, which is the

8th tithi of the dark half of the month of Sravana,the asterism of Rohini was

rising at midnight, and the Muhurta was calledVijaya."We could ask ourselves:

what is the meaning of the asterism being Abhijit?Someone knows which Muhurta

is called Vijaya?A comment on Ramadas Rao's text, if indeed this yoga was

present:VAJRA YOGA: all benefics in lagna and 7th house, or all malefics in

4thand 10th house. I would opt for all malefics in 4th and 10th house,

sinceVenus, lagna lord is a benefic and cannot be in lagna or 7th, since

it'snever so far from Sun, who is in 4th house.Furthermore, to possible enhance

our search for Lord Krishna's chart,Srila Prabhupada writes in his Krsna-Book, a

summary of the 10th canto ofSrimad-Bhagavatam, that Lord Krsna's birth details

are nicely representedin an astronomical work, called Khamanikya. Anyone knows

about this work?Your sishya,Dhira Krsna dasaArchives:

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Om Krishna Guru :

 

Dear Dhira, Visti:

 

>From dhira's message

 

>>"I did some research today and found the interesting quote from

>>Brahmanda Purana, where Lord Krishna's appearance in this Varaha

>>Kalpa and Vaisvasvat Manvantara is described. It reads:

 

>>"The asterism on the day Krsna was born was Abhijit. The night was

>>called Jayanti, which is the 8th tithi of the dark half of the

>>month of Sravana, the asterism of Rohini was rising at midnight,

>>and the Muhurta was called Vijaya."

 

>>We could ask ourselves: what is the meaning of the asterism being

>>Abhijit? "

 

My question is How could the asterism abhijit be on the day and

rohini in the night ?

 

If you see the placement on sarvotbhadra chakra abhijit and rohini

are vedha (opposite to each other ) a difference of atleast 11

constellations drom abhijit to rohini, and moon staying at most in an

asterism in a tithi.

 

My explanation would be the way of counting the days was probably

different or abhijit is not a stationary star and, it is changing its

position with time.

 

Could anyone clarify the issue ?

 

If there is something wrong in the way I am interpreting this, please

correct me. I have not read the purana mentioned by dhira so do not

know much about it.

 

 

Ishwar

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