Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah Dear Anilkumar, IF you can give the original text written in Sanskrit or Merely translitterated, it would be easier for me to help you, otherwise i'm battling with two problems: 1) Doubt whether the source is correctly translated. 2) Fact that i cannot find those positions to comply within the given time. There are some useful links bellow in my signature. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - aokedia vedic astrology Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:57 AM [vedic astrology] Chart for SriKrishn Dear FriendsRam Krishn HareDhir Krishna wrote:If the chart given for Krsna as July 19, 3221 BC in the varahamihira filesis correct, then Balarama should have been born 1 year? and 8 daysearlier. His time of birth is given as around noon time in vaisnavacalendar. Yet, I have a difficulty finding the 2 planets in Devalokamsafor Krsna's chart as given here. Hence, is it correct?------------------I do not agree with that date. The birth tithi for balaram is also differentthen you have given above.You also gave some details about SriKrishna'sbirth based on sixth chapter of the Brahma-vaivarta Purana.I want to informyou that different puranas describe different Kalpas.So your data is notapplicable to present Kalpa. Due to the same reason,above date as given byDr. Raman is also invalid.He used Matsya-Puran to prove that Kali-yug startedon the day SriKrishna left the world.It is said that in Kaliyug,first shak-karta is Yudhishthir.SriKrishn existedduring the period of yudhishthir and after He left earth,Pandavas also wentto himalaya.I am therefore sure that kaliyug started before He departed.I am inclined to feel that His birth occured around july 19,3164 BC (+ or - few years/months/days). Since I do not have any software to calculate dates before 3000 BC,I posted a request about a month back but so far no onehas replied.Visti seems to have such program but he remained silent after a query.BTW,Goddess Yogmaya also appeared along with Srikrishn in Nandgaon.Thereis very little difference in their lagn.This small difference made a verybig difference in their lives.Any remarks on this?I am giving below my earlier mail:--------------------Sub:Charts for SriKrishn and BalramI found some information about the birth of lord Srikrishn and Balram.This information is from sage Gargachary who made their Horoscopes!!!I do not have a software that can calculate planetary positions before BC 3000.It seems that GJ is not capable of doing that.I have no idea about PL.If anyone is able to do that please help me in determiningthe correct date of birth for the two lords.This will help us a lotin fixing Ayanansha and also varga-charts.I have given below somedetails about their birth.But complete charts are not available.Lord Balarm has birth tithi Bhadrapad-shukla 6.HE was born at mid-day on wednesday in Tula(libra) lagn.Moon was in Swati-Nakshatr.This puts sun in Leo.HE has saturn and mercury in exaltation.HE has venus,moon,saturn in libra,Rahu exalted in Taurus,ketu in scorpio.I did some calculations manually to find that Lord SriKrishn appearedafter 371 days from the birth of Lord Balram.Lord SriKrishn was born at midnight of Bhadrapad-Krishna 8 on wednesday.His birth occured at the time of moon-rise meanslongitude of moon and lagn are same.Sun-moon yoga was Harshan.Moon was in Rohini-Nakshatr.So sun is in Leo.( Traditionally position of mercury,venus,saturn,rahu and ketuare shown as in the Balram's chart.I have not found any referance to it.BTW,what more can you expect that lagna,moon and sun are vargottam andLagn has 2 exalted planets!)Birth place is Mathura(UP-India). Lat 27.28 N, Lon 77.41 E, TZ 5:30 EIf someone can do a search in the period between BC 3500-3000 to locatethe positions,we can fix the correct charts.I would like to get the position of planets when the tithi falls on wednesday for both charts and saturn is exalted.Please also give ayanansha values for the Dates.ThanksAnilkumarOM TAT SATArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 Dear Anil, In the first issue of Jyotish Digest (April 2002), I wrote a research article on the chart of Sri Krishna. Parasara very clearly taught that all of Vishnu's avataras have a raja yoga between a quadrant lord and a trine lord with BOTH occupying devalokamsa (strong in 7 out of 10 divisions). This is a very important clue in fixing Krishna's chart. Similarly, Yudhishthira's chart must have a raja yoga between 2 planets in Simhasanamsa (5/10) and the 9th lord must be in Airavatamsa (9/10). Sri Rama's chart also must have the 9th lord Jupiter in Airavatamsa as per Parasara. None of the charts given for Krishna earlier come close to that. They don't have a raja yoga between even Simhasanamsa planets (5/10). They are clearly wrong. Once we resolve the controversies in (1) the definition of vaiseshikamsas, (2) ayanamsa, and, (3) hora & trimsamsa charts, we should be able to find the charts of Krishna and Yudhishthira using the computer. For the starters, I did an automated search using a computer in 5300BC-1000BC range. I looked for the midnight of Krishna Ashtami tithi of Jyeshtha/Sravana/Bhadrapada months (used 3 months to eliminate problems due to corrupted definitions) and considered ayanamsas in the range (Lahiri ayanamsa-30 arc min) to (Lahiri ayanamsa+30 arc-min). I looked for a chart in which 2 planets were in Devalokamsa (I manually checked for the relationship/yoga between them and did not enforce it in the automated search, in order to eliminate false rejections). There was only one match: Night of July 6, 2496 BC (extrapolating the Gregorian calendar) It has Taurus lagna with Moon in Gopuramsa in it, Saturn and Venus (9th/10th/1st lords) with a close raja yoga within 7 arc-min in Libra, with both occupying devalokamsa. Jupiter is in Gopuramsa in 2nd, exalted Mercury in 5th and Sun & Mars in Leo. For all I know, this chart may not be correct. As I mentioned at the beginning, we have to resolve 3 issues - ayanamsa, vaiseshikamsa definition and hora/trimsamsa chart. But, without this Devalokamsa condition satisfied - even to a small extent - we cannot accept a chart. None of the charts given by elders for Krishna can be correct. They are too far off. We'll find the right one. It's a matter of time. May Jupiter's light shine on us, PVR > Dear Friends > > Ram Krishn Hare > > Dhir Krishna wrote: > > If the chart given for Krsna as July 19, 3221 BC in the varahamihira > files > is correct, then Balarama should have been born 1 year? and 8 days > earlier. His time of birth is given as around noon time in vaisnava > calendar. Yet, I have a difficulty finding the 2 planets in > Devalokamsa > for Krsna's chart as given here. Hence, is it correct? > ------------------ > I do not agree with that date. The birth tithi for balaram is also > different > then you have given above.You also gave some details about > SriKrishna's > birth based on sixth chapter of the Brahma-vaivarta Purana.I want to > inform > you that different puranas describe different Kalpas.So your data is > not > applicable to present Kalpa. Due to the same reason,above date as > given by > Dr. Raman is also invalid.He used Matsya-Puran to prove that Kali- yug > started > on the day SriKrishna left the world. > > It is said that in Kaliyug,first shak-karta is Yudhishthir.SriKrishn > existed > during the period of yudhishthir and after He left earth,Pandavas > also went > to himalaya.I am therefore sure that kaliyug started before He > departed. > > I am inclined to feel that His birth occured around july 19,3164 BC > (+ or - few years/months/days). Since I do not have any software to > calculate > dates before 3000 BC,I posted a request about a month back but so far > no one > has replied.Visti seems to have such program but he remained silent > after > a query. > > BTW,Goddess Yogmaya also appeared along with Srikrishn in > Nandgaon.There > is very little difference in their lagn.This small difference made a > very > big difference in their lives.Any remarks on this? > > I am giving below my earlier mail: > -------------------- > Sub:Charts for SriKrishn and Balram > > > I found some information about the birth of lord Srikrishn and Balram. > This information is from sage Gargachary who made their Horoscopes!!! > I do not have a software that can calculate planetary positions > before > BC 3000.It seems that GJ is not capable of doing that.I have no idea > about PL. > > If anyone is able to do that please help me in determining > the correct date of birth for the two lords.This will help us a lot > in fixing Ayanansha and also varga-charts.I have given below some > details about their birth.But complete charts are not available. > > Lord Balarm has birth tithi Bhadrapad-shukla 6. > HE was born at mid-day on wednesday in Tula(libra) lagn. > Moon was in Swati-Nakshatr.This puts sun in Leo. > HE has saturn and mercury in exaltation. > HE has venus,moon,saturn in libra,Rahu exalted in Taurus,ketu in > scorpio. > > I did some calculations manually to find that Lord SriKrishn appeared > after 371 days from the birth of Lord Balram. > > Lord SriKrishn was born at midnight of Bhadrapad-Krishna 8 on > wednesday. > His birth occured at the time of moon-rise means > longitude of moon and lagn are same.Sun-moon yoga was Harshan. > Moon was in Rohini-Nakshatr.So sun is in Leo. > ( Traditionally position of mercury,venus,saturn,rahu and ketu > are shown as in the Balram's chart.I have not found any referance to > it. > BTW,what more can you expect that lagna,moon and sun are vargottam and > Lagn has 2 exalted planets!) > > Birth place is Mathura(UP-India). Lat 27.28 N, Lon 77.41 E, TZ 5:30 > E > > > If someone can do a search in the period between BC 3500-3000 to > locate > the positions,we can fix the correct charts.I would like to get the > position of planets when the tithi falls on wednesday for both > charts and saturn is exalted.Please also give ayanansha values for > the Dates. > > Thanks > > Anilkumar > > OM TAT SAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2002 Report Share Posted November 19, 2002 Dear Visti RAM KRISHN HARE I wrote you long back that it is from Garg Samhita.You may have missed it. I do not have sanskrit version of it.But similar information appears at two different places and can not be wrong. BTW,which software you are using and what is its accuracy in that period? I think tithi search is not available in jyotish programs.What methods you used for searching?I have not asked for all those positions.My stress is on Var/tithi for both charts and moon-rise at mid night for Srikrishn.We can then try for various combinations of ayanansh/varg/vaiseshikamsa on each of the searched positions manually. Please note that mid- night is not 12 AM. Thanks Anilkumar OM TAT SAT ************** YOU WROTE: Dear Anilkumar, IF you can give the original text written in Sanskrit or Merely translitterated, it would be easier for me to help you, otherwise i'm battling with two problems: 1) Doubt whether the source is correctly translated. 2) Fact that i cannot find those positions to comply within the given time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2002 Report Share Posted November 19, 2002 Dear Rao PVR RAM KRISHN HARE Thanks for taking so much pains. But I was interested in getting positions that match day/tithi/moon rise at mid night/exalted Saturn. The date given by you falls in Kali-yug so not acceptable. I feel that the controversies can be resolved after we fix the chart. We can verify which Ayanansha etc. will give correct results and test it with other available data. My personal view is all vargas should be cyclic.D-10 is defined as a cyclic varg in Tajik-Nilkanthi. D-30 defination and lordships are similar to D-5. I feel current D-30 is not the one used by Parashar for difficulties. The current one is used in Stri-jatak. one can try cyclic D-30,D-40 and D-45. Cyclic D-2,D-3 are already given in old classics.I found Lahiri Ayanansha satisfactory in Vinshottary dasha computation with solar years.I am however not willing to initiate any debate on this as it is my own view. I also request you to kindly give all possible meanings for the verse "Swarudhat kendr nathanam varga grahya sudhimata ....". This is the key verse for all vargas. Vaiseshikamsa should include these positions. We can concentrate on Lord Balaram's chart and use information for Srikrishna's birth to narrow the possibilities.There is no vaiseshikamsa condition for Lord Balram. BTW,do you have any idea about how long Yudhishthir ruled after winning Mahabharat war. I look forward to your reply/Data on both charts. Thanks Anilkumar OM TAT SAT ***************** You wrote: Re: Chart for SriKrishn Dear Anil, In the first issue of Jyotish Digest (April 2002), I wrote a research article on the chart of Sri Krishna. Parasara very clearly taught that all of Vishnu's avataras have a raja yoga between a quadrant lord and a trine lord with BOTH occupying devalokamsa (strong in 7 out of 10 divisions). This is a very important clue in fixing Krishna's chart. Similarly, Yudhishthira's chart must have a raja yoga between 2 planets in Simhasanamsa (5/10) and the 9th lord must be in Airavatamsa (9/10). Sri Rama's chart also must have the 9th lord Jupiter in Airavatamsa as per Parasara. None of the charts given for Krishna earlier come close to that. They don't have a raja yoga between even Simhasanamsa planets (5/10). They are clearly wrong. Once we resolve the controversies in (1) the definition of vaiseshikamsas, (2) ayanamsa, and, (3) hora & trimsamsa charts, we should be able to find the charts of Krishna and Yudhishthira using the computer. For the starters, I did an automated search using a computer in 5300BC-1000BC range. I looked for the midnight of Krishna Ashtami tithi of Jyeshtha/Sravana/Bhadrapada months (used 3 months to eliminate problems due to corrupted definitions) and considered ayanamsas in the range (Lahiri ayanamsa-30 arc min) to (Lahiri ayanamsa+30 arc-min). I looked for a chart in which 2 planets were in Devalokamsa (I manually checked for the relationship/yoga between them and did not enforce it in the automated search, in order to eliminate false rejections). There was only one match: Night of July 6, 2496 BC (extrapolating the Gregorian calendar) It has Taurus lagna with Moon in Gopuramsa in it, Saturn and Venus (9th/10th/1st lords) with a close raja yoga within 7 arc-min in Libra, with both occupying devalokamsa. Jupiter is in Gopuramsa in 2nd, exalted Mercury in 5th and Sun & Mars in Leo. For all I know, this chart may not be correct. As I mentioned at the beginning, we have to resolve 3 issues - ayanamsa, vaiseshikamsa definition and hora/trimsamsa chart. But, without this Devalokamsa condition satisfied - even to a small extent - we cannot accept a chart. None of the charts given by elders for Krishna can be correct. They are too far off. We'll find the right one. It's a matter of time. May Jupiter's light shine on us, PVR > ------------------ > Sub:Charts for SriKrishn and Balram > I have given below some details about their birth. > But complete charts are not available. > > Lord Balarm has birth tithi Bhadrapad-shukla 6. > HE was born at mid-day on wednesday in Tula(libra) lagn. > Moon was in Swati-Nakshatr.This puts sun in Leo. > HE has saturn and mercury in exaltation. > HE has venus,moon,saturn in libra,Rahu exalted in Taurus,ketu in > scorpio. > > I did some calculations manually to find that Lord SriKrishn appeared > after 371 days from the birth of Lord Balram. > > Lord SriKrishn was born at midnight of Bhadrapad-Krishna 8 on > wednesday. > His birth occured at the time of moon-rise means > longitude of moon and lagn are same.Sun-moon yoga was Harshan. > Moon was in Rohini-Nakshatr.So sun is in Leo. > ( Traditionally position of mercury,venus,saturn,rahu and ketu > are shown as in the Balram's chart.I have not found any referance > to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2002 Report Share Posted November 19, 2002 Dear Anilkumar, Namaste. >But I was interested in getting positions that match day/tithi/moon >rise at mid night/exalted Saturn. Moon should also be in Rohini nakshatra. Are you sure Moon should be exactly rising at midnight or would already have been rising before birth, which is exactly at midnight? >The date given by you falls in Kali-yug so not acceptable. Don't dismiss the date given by Narasimha Rao on the basis of bias regarding the start of Kali-yuga. After all, we do not know for sure when Kali-yuga started and this date may help us understand it better. While I was doing my own research on the start of Kali-yuga recently, I calculated using Deva-datta ayanamsa and found the date of around 2500 BC to be correct. Now that Narasimha found this date so close to it, I am inclined to accept it as accurate. I only found the date of July 7th 2496 BC, at the exact start of Ashtami tithi at 0:13 to be correct. On that same day, the Moon is rising exactly at midnight at 23:57, but then is already in Mrgasira nakshatra and in Navami tithi. It would be just after midnight on the 7th July, ascendant should be Gemini instead of Taurus to put Jupiter and Venus in trines, which is the Jayanti yoga explained in the scriptures, giving undying fame and glory. Exalted Moon in the 12th, aspected by 12th lord and exalted Saturn should explain the separation from mother, who was in the prison during His time in Vrndavan. Do we know the reference of Yudhisthira's birth according to the date of Krsna, I mean the number of years of difference in age and his birthdate? Is it mentioned somewhere in sastra? It would be interesting to find out his chart, in order to be sure. Are there any references for the charts of the other Pandavas and of the birth of Maharaja Pariksit? Your sishya, Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 Namaste all listed members, Recently in one of the old books I saw about the birth informations of Sri Krishna.It is in Sanskrit.So those who can understand this Shloka ,I think it may be of use to find out the exact date of birth of Sri Krishna ; It says like this :SWASTI SRI MADBHAGAVATHO MAHAPURUSHASYA PRAVARTHAMAANASYA BRAHMANAM DWITEEYA PARARDHE SHWETAVARAHA KALPE VAIVASWATA MANVANTARE ASHTAVIMSHATITAME MAHAYUGANTARGAThA DWAPARA YUGASYA 8,63,900 NAVA SHATYTTARA TRISHASHTI SAHASRAADHIKASHTA LAKSHANI 100 AEKA SHAThAANI ThADhA PRAVARTAMAANE VIRODHI NAAMA SAMVATSARE, DAKSHINAAYANE ,VARSHA RITAU, SHRAVANA MAASE, KRISHNA PAKSHE ,ASHTAMI ThITHOU,BUDHAVASARE 50-44,ROHINI 52-51,VAJRA YOGA 53-20,BAVA KARANA 27 ; EVAM PANCHANGA SHUDDHESMIN DINE SRI MAARTAANADA MANDALAARDHO UDAYAAT GAThA GHATIKA 45-05 ,VRISHABHA LAGNODAYE PUNYODAYA VEELAYAAM JAMBU DWEEPE BHARAThA KHANDE YAMUNA ThEERE SRI MANMATHURA NAGARA SRI SOMA VAMSHOTPANNA SHOORASENA RAJATMAJA SRI VASUDEVA RAJA VIRAAJAMANASThASYA GRIHE ,YAA SAUBHAGYADYA AKHILA GUNA SAMPANNA DEVAKI ThASYA UDARE KARAGRIHE ASHTAMA PUTRASYA SRI KRISHNASYA JANMAABHOOTh. I hope this will be of help to those Gurus who can now find out the exact year and date of birth of Sri Krishna Bhagavaan. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Anilkumar,Namaste.>But I was interested in getting positions that match day/tithi/moon>rise at mid night/exalted Saturn.Moon should also be in Rohini nakshatra. Are you sure Moon should beexactly rising at midnight or would already have been rising before birth,which is exactly at midnight?>The date given by you falls in Kali-yug so not acceptable.Don't dismiss the date given by Narasimha Rao on the basis of biasregarding the start of Kali-yuga. After all, we do not know for sure whenKali-yuga started and this date may help us understand it better. While Iwas doing my own research on the start of Kali-yuga recently, I calculatedusing Deva-datta ayanamsa and found the date of around 2500 BC to becorrect. Now that Narasimha found this date so close to it, I am inclinedto accept it as accurate. I only found the date of July 7th 2496 BC, atthe exact start of Ashtami tithi at 0:13 to be correct. On that same day,the Moon is rising exactly at midnight at 23:57, but then is already inMrgasira nakshatra and in Navami tithi. It would be just after midnight onthe 7th July, ascendant should be Gemini instead of Taurus to put Jupiterand Venus in trines, which is the Jayanti yoga explained in thescriptures, giving undying fame and glory. Exalted Moon in the 12th,aspected by 12th lord and exalted Saturn should explain the separationfrom mother, who was in the prison during His time in Vrndavan.Do we know the reference of Yudhisthira's birth according to the date ofKrsna, I mean the number of years of difference in age and his birthdate?Is it mentioned somewhere in sastra? It would be interesting to find outhis chart, in order to be sure. Are there any references for the charts ofthe other Pandavas and of the birth of Maharaja Pariksit?Your sishya,Dhira Krsna dasaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om Dear Ramadas, Thankyou for this priceless contribution. However which classic is this from? Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - Ramadas Rao vedic astrology Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:41 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Chart for SriKrishn OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Namaste all listed members, Recently in one of the old books I saw about the birth informations of Sri Krishna.It is in Sanskrit.So those who can understand this Shloka ,I think it may be of use to find out the exact date of birth of Sri Krishna ; It says like this :SWASTI SRI MADBHAGAVATHO MAHAPURUSHASYA PRAVARTHAMAANASYA BRAHMANAM DWITEEYA PARARDHE SHWETAVARAHA KALPE VAIVASWATA MANVANTARE ASHTAVIMSHATITAME MAHAYUGANTARGAThA DWAPARA YUGASYA 8,63,900 NAVA SHATYTTARA TRISHASHTI SAHASRAADHIKASHTA LAKSHANI 100 AEKA SHAThAANI ThADhA PRAVARTAMAANE VIRODHI NAAMA SAMVATSARE, DAKSHINAAYANE ,VARSHA RITAU, SHRAVANA MAASE, KRISHNA PAKSHE ,ASHTAMI ThITHOU,BUDHAVASARE 50-44,ROHINI 52-51,VAJRA YOGA 53-20,BAVA KARANA 27 ; EVAM PANCHANGA SHUDDHESMIN DINE SRI MAARTAANADA MANDALAARDHO UDAYAAT GAThA GHATIKA 45-05 ,VRISHABHA LAGNODAYE PUNYODAYA VEELAYAAM JAMBU DWEEPE BHARAThA KHANDE YAMUNA ThEERE SRI MANMATHURA NAGARA SRI SOMA VAMSHOTPANNA SHOORASENA RAJATMAJA SRI VASUDEVA RAJA VIRAAJAMANASThASYA GRIHE ,YAA SAUBHAGYADYA AKHILA GUNA SAMPANNA DEVAKI ThASYA UDARE KARAGRIHE ASHTAMA PUTRASYA SRI KRISHNASYA JANMAABHOOTh. I hope this will be of help to those Gurus who can now find out the exact year and date of birth of Sri Krishna Bhagavaan. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Anilkumar,Namaste.>But I was interested in getting positions that match day/tithi/moon>rise at mid night/exalted Saturn.Moon should also be in Rohini nakshatra. Are you sure Moon should beexactly rising at midnight or would already have been rising before birth,which is exactly at midnight?>The date given by you falls in Kali-yug so not acceptable.Don't dismiss the date given by Narasimha Rao on the basis of biasregarding the start of Kali-yuga. After all, we do not know for sure whenKali-yuga started and this date may help us understand it better. While Iwas doing my own research on the start of Kali-yuga recently, I calculatedusing Deva-datta ayanamsa and found the date of around 2500 BC to becorrect. Now that Narasimha found this date so close to it, I am inclinedto accept it as accurate. I only found the date of July 7th 2496 BC, atthe exact start of Ashtami tithi at 0:13 to be correct. On that same day,the Moon is rising exactly at midnight at 23:57, but then is already inMrgasira nakshatra and in Navami tithi. It would be just after midnight onthe 7th July, ascendant should be Gemini instead of Taurus to put Jupiterand Venus in trines, which is the Jayanti yoga explained in thescriptures, giving undying fame and glory. Exalted Moon in the 12th,aspected by 12th lord and exalted Saturn should explain the separationfrom mother, who was in the prison during His time in Vrndavan.Do we know the reference of Yudhisthira's birth according to the date ofKrsna, I mean the number of years of difference in age and his birthdate?Is it mentioned somewhere in sastra? It would be interesting to find outhis chart, in order to be sure. Are there any references for the charts ofthe other Pandavas and of the birth of Maharaja Pariksit?Your sishya,Dhira Krsna dasaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 Namaste Visti, The information which I gave is from a book about Sri Vishnu Sahasra Naama and and Sri Krishna Ashtottara Shatanaama Stotra with comments on Janmashtami Pooja written by a famous Panchanga Vidwan Sri Padmanabha Acharya from Udipi which is near to Mangalore.But from which classics he has taken has to be confirmed by him only. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Visti Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote: Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om Dear Ramadas, Thankyou for this priceless contribution. However which classic is this from? Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - Ramadas Rao vedic astrology Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:41 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Chart for SriKrishn OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Namaste all listed members, Recently in one of the old books I saw about the birth informations of Sri Krishna.It is in Sanskrit.So those who can understand this Shloka ,I think it may be of use to find out the exact date of birth of Sri Krishna ; It says like this :SWASTI SRI MADBHAGAVATHO MAHAPURUSHASYA PRAVARTHAMAANASYA BRAHMANAM DWITEEYA PARARDHE SHWETAVARAHA KALPE VAIVASWATA MANVANTARE ASHTAVIMSHATITAME MAHAYUGANTARGAThA DWAPARA YUGASYA 8,63,900 NAVA SHATYTTARA TRISHASHTI SAHASRAADHIKASHTA LAKSHANI 100 AEKA SHAThAANI ThADhA PRAVARTAMAANE VIRODHI NAAMA SAMVATSARE, DAKSHINAAYANE ,VARSHA RITAU, SHRAVANA MAASE, KRISHNA PAKSHE ,ASHTAMI ThITHOU,BUDHAVASARE 50-44,ROHINI 52-51,VAJRA YOGA 53-20,BAVA KARANA 27 ; EVAM PANCHANGA SHUDDHESMIN DINE SRI MAARTAANADA MANDALAARDHO UDAYAAT GAThA GHATIKA 45-05 ,VRISHABHA LAGNODAYE PUNYODAYA VEELAYAAM JAMBU DWEEPE BHARAThA KHANDE YAMUNA ThEERE SRI MANMATHURA NAGARA SRI SOMA VAMSHOTPANNA SHOORASENA RAJATMAJA SRI VASUDEVA RAJA VIRAAJAMANASThASYA GRIHE ,YAA SAUBHAGYADYA AKHILA GUNA SAMPANNA DEVAKI ThASYA UDARE KARAGRIHE ASHTAMA PUTRASYA SRI KRISHNASYA JANMAABHOOTh. I hope this will be of help to those Gurus who can now find out the exact year and date of birth of Sri Krishna Bhagavaan. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Anilkumar,Namaste.>But I was interested in getting positions that match day/tithi/moon>rise at mid night/exalted Saturn.Moon should also be in Rohini nakshatra. Are you sure Moon should beexactly rising at midnight or would already have been rising before birth,which is exactly at midnight?>The date given by you falls in Kali-yug so not acceptable.Don't dismiss the date given by Narasimha Rao on the basis of biasregarding the start of Kali-yuga. After all, we do not know for sure whenKali-yuga started and this date may help us understand it better. While Iwas doing my own research on the start of Kali-yuga recently, I calculatedusing Deva-datta ayanamsa and found the date of around 2500 BC to becorrect. Now that Narasimha found this date so close to it, I am inclinedto accept it as accurate. I only found the date of July 7th 2496 BC, atthe exact start of Ashtami tithi at 0:13 to be correct. On that same day,the Moon is rising exactly at midnight at 23:57, but then is already inMrgasira nakshatra and in Navami tithi. It would be just after midnight onthe 7th July, ascendant should be Gemini instead of Taurus to put Jupiterand Venus in trines, which is the Jayanti yoga explained in thescriptures, giving undying fame and glory. Exalted Moon in the 12th,aspected by 12th lord and exalted Saturn should explain the separationfrom mother, who was in the prison during His time in Vrndavan.Do we know the reference of Yudhisthira's birth according to the date ofKrsna, I mean the number of years of difference in age and his birthdate?Is it mentioned somewhere in sastra? It would be interesting to find outhis chart, in order to be sure. Are there any references for the charts ofthe other Pandavas and of the birth of Maharaja Pariksit?Your sishya,Dhira Krsna dasaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 Shree Vishnusahashra Nama is as told by BHISMA to Yudhistira. This is frm the original MAHABHARATA. I do not know the exct chapter. --- Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA > Namaste Visti, > The information which I gave is from a book about Sri Vishnu Sahasra Naama > and and Sri Krishna Ashtottara Shatanaama Stotra with comments on Janmashtami > Pooja written by a famous Panchanga Vidwan Sri Padmanabha Acharya from Udipi > which is near to Mangalore.But from which classics he has taken has to be > confirmed by him only. > With best regards, > Ramadas Rao. > Visti Larsen <vishnu wrote:Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah > Jum Om > > Dear Ramadas,Thankyou for this priceless contribution. However which classic > is this from?Best wishes > Visti > --- > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: > vedic astrologybphs.zip > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html----- > Original Message ----- Ramadas Rao vedic astrology > Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:41 PMRe: [vedic astrology] Re: > Chart for SriKrishn > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA > Namaste all listed members, > Recently in one of the old books I saw about the birth informations of Sri > Krishna.It is in Sanskrit.So those who can understand this Shloka ,I think it > may be of use to find out the exact date of birth of Sri Krishna ; > It says like this :SWASTI SRI MADBHAGAVATHO MAHAPURUSHASYA PRAVARTHAMAANASYA > BRAHMANAM DWITEEYA PARARDHE SHWETAVARAHA KALPE VAIVASWATA MANVANTARE > ASHTAVIMSHATITAME MAHAYUGANTARGAThA DWAPARA YUGASYA 8,63,900 NAVA SHATYTTARA > TRISHASHTI SAHASRAADHIKASHTA LAKSHANI 100 AEKA SHAThAANI ThADhA PRAVARTAMAANE > VIRODHI NAAMA SAMVATSARE, DAKSHINAAYANE ,VARSHA RITAU, SHRAVANA MAASE, > KRISHNA PAKSHE ,ASHTAMI ThITHOU,BUDHAVASARE 50-44,ROHINI 52-51,VAJRA YOGA > 53-20,BAVA KARANA 27 ; EVAM PANCHANGA SHUDDHESMIN DINE SRI MAARTAANADA > MANDALAARDHO UDAYAAT GAThA GHATIKA 45-05 ,VRISHABHA LAGNODAYE PUNYODAYA > VEELAYAAM JAMBU DWEEPE BHARAThA KHANDE YAMUNA ThEERE SRI MANMATHURA NAGARA > SRI SOMA VAMSHOTPANNA SHOORASENA RAJATMAJA SRI VASUDEVA RAJA > VIRAAJAMANASThASYA GRIHE ,YAA SAUBHAGYADYA AKHILA GUNA SAMPANNA DEVAKI ThASYA > UDARE KARAGRIHE ASHTAMA PUTRASYA SRI KRISHNASYA JANMAABHOOTh. > I hope this will be of help to those Gurus who can now find out the exact > year and date of birth of Sri Krishna Bhagavaan. > With best regards, > Ramadas Rao. > > Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS wrote: Dear Anilkumar, > > Namaste. > > >But I was interested in getting positions that match day/tithi/moon > >rise at mid night/exalted Saturn. > > Moon should also be in Rohini nakshatra. Are you sure Moon should be > exactly rising at midnight or would already have been rising before birth, > which is exactly at midnight? > > >The date given by you falls in Kali-yug so not acceptable. > > Don't dismiss the date given by Narasimha Rao on the basis of bias > regarding the start of Kali-yuga. After all, we do not know for sure when > Kali-yuga started and this date may help us understand it better. While I > was doing my own research on the start of Kali-yuga recently, I calculated > using Deva-datta ayanamsa and found the date of around 2500 BC to be > correct. Now that Narasimha found this date so close to it, I am inclined > to accept it as accurate. I only found the date of July 7th 2496 BC, at > the exact start of Ashtami tithi at 0:13 to be correct. On that same day, > the Moon is rising exactly at midnight at 23:57, but then is already in > Mrgasira nakshatra and in Navami tithi. It would be just after midnight on > the 7th July, ascendant should be Gemini instead of Taurus to put Jupiter > and Venus in trines, which is the Jayanti yoga explained in the > scriptures, giving undying fame and glory. Exalted Moon in the 12th, > aspected by 12th lord and exalted Saturn should explain the separation > from mother, who was in the prison during His time in Vrndavan. > > Do we know the reference of Yudhisthira's birth according to the date of > Krsna, I mean the number of years of difference in age and his birthdate? > Is it mentioned somewhere in sastra? It would be interesting to find out > his chart, in order to be sure. Are there any references for the charts of > the other Pandavas and of the birth of Maharaja Pariksit? > > Your sishya, > Dhira Krsna dasa > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Mail Plus – Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om Dear Ramadas and Sridhar, Thanx for the help. I will work on the calculations, however i have noted 1 error. Bava Karana cannot fall on Krishna Asthami, likely it should read Balava Karana. Most accept Sreemukha Samvatsara as the birth year of Krishna, it would be interesting to pinpoint the same using Virodhi samvatsara.. oh well now to get down and dirty with the calculations. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - "sridhar k" <kopparsa > <vedic astrology> Friday, November 22, 2002 8:29 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Chart for SriKrishn > > Shree Vishnusahashra Nama is as told by BHISMA to Yudhistira. This is frm the> original MAHABHARATA. I do not know the exct chapter.> > --- Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA> > Namaste Visti,> > The information which I gave is from a book about Sri Vishnu Sahasra Naama> > and and Sri Krishna Ashtottara Shatanaama Stotra with comments on Janmashtami> > Pooja written by a famous Panchanga Vidwan Sri Padmanabha Acharya from Udipi> > which is near to Mangalore.But from which classics he has taken has to be> > confirmed by him only.> > With best regards,> > Ramadas Rao.> > Visti Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah> > Jum Om> > > > Dear Ramadas,Thankyou for this priceless contribution. However which classic> > is this from?Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra:> > vedic astrologybphs.zip> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html-----> > Original Message ----- Ramadas Rao vedic astrology> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:41 PMRe: [vedic astrology] Re:> > Chart for SriKrishn> > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA > > Namaste all listed members, > > Recently in one of the old books I saw about the birth informations of Sri> > Krishna.It is in Sanskrit.So those who can understand this Shloka ,I think it> > may be of use to find out the exact date of birth of Sri Krishna ; > > It says like this :SWASTI SRI MADBHAGAVATHO MAHAPURUSHASYA PRAVARTHAMAANASYA> > BRAHMANAM DWITEEYA PARARDHE SHWETAVARAHA KALPE VAIVASWATA MANVANTARE> > ASHTAVIMSHATITAME MAHAYUGANTARGAThA DWAPARA YUGASYA 8,63,900 NAVA SHATYTTARA> > TRISHASHTI SAHASRAADHIKASHTA LAKSHANI 100 AEKA SHAThAANI ThADhA PRAVARTAMAANE> > VIRODHI NAAMA SAMVATSARE, DAKSHINAAYANE ,VARSHA RITAU, SHRAVANA MAASE,> > KRISHNA PAKSHE ,ASHTAMI ThITHOU,BUDHAVASARE 50-44,ROHINI 52-51,VAJRA YOGA> > 53-20,BAVA KARANA 27 ; EVAM PANCHANGA SHUDDHESMIN DINE SRI MAARTAANADA> > MANDALAARDHO UDAYAAT GAThA GHATIKA 45-05 ,VRISHABHA LAGNODAYE PUNYODAYA> > VEELAYAAM JAMBU DWEEPE BHARAThA KHANDE YAMUNA ThEERE SRI MANMATHURA NAGARA> > SRI SOMA VAMSHOTPANNA SHOORASENA RAJATMAJA SRI VASUDEVA RAJA> > VIRAAJAMANASThASYA GRIHE ,YAA SAUBHAGYADYA AKHILA GUNA SAMPANNA DEVAKI ThASYA> > UDARE KARAGRIHE ASHTAMA PUTRASYA SRI KRISHNASYA JANMAABHOOTh. > > I hope this will be of help to those Gurus who can now find out the exact> > year and date of birth of Sri Krishna Bhagavaan. > > With best regards, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Anilkumar,> > > > Namaste.> > > > >But I was interested in getting positions that match day/tithi/moon> > >rise at mid night/exalted Saturn.> > > > Moon should also be in Rohini nakshatra. Are you sure Moon should be> > exactly rising at midnight or would already have been rising before birth,> > which is exactly at midnight?> > > > >The date given by you falls in Kali-yug so not acceptable.> > > > Don't dismiss the date given by Narasimha Rao on the basis of bias> > regarding the start of Kali-yuga. After all, we do not know for sure when> > Kali-yuga started and this date may help us understand it better. While I> > was doing my own research on the start of Kali-yuga recently, I calculated> > using Deva-datta ayanamsa and found the date of around 2500 BC to be> > correct. Now that Narasimha found this date so close to it, I am inclined> > to accept it as accurate. I only found the date of July 7th 2496 BC, at> > the exact start of Ashtami tithi at 0:13 to be correct. On that same day,> > the Moon is rising exactly at midnight at 23:57, but then is already in> > Mrgasira nakshatra and in Navami tithi. It would be just after midnight on> > the 7th July, ascendant should be Gemini instead of Taurus to put Jupiter> > and Venus in trines, which is the Jayanti yoga explained in the> > scriptures, giving undying fame and glory. Exalted Moon in the 12th,> > aspected by 12th lord and exalted Saturn should explain the separation> > from mother, who was in the prison during His time in Vrndavan.> > > > Do we know the reference of Yudhisthira's birth according to the date of> > Krsna, I mean the number of years of difference in age and his birthdate?> > Is it mentioned somewhere in sastra? It would be interesting to find out> > his chart, in order to be sure. Are there any references for the charts of> > the other Pandavas and of the birth of Maharaja Pariksit?> > > > Your sishya,> > Dhira Krsna dasa> > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 Namaste all, Mahabharata does give Vishnu Sahasra Nama Stotram, but does not give what Ramadas Rao quoted. The scholar who compiled the stotras most probably had a particular chart in mind (based on whatever siddhanta and ayanamsa used by him) and worked out karana, vara, yoga, tithi etc based on it. I do not think all these details were given in any classic. For example, I found a chart with 2 Devalokamsa planets conjoining within 7 arc-min giving a raja yoga as said by Parasara regarding Vishnu's avataras. In one of my books in future, I can make up a verse on Krishna's birthdata using this chart and give tithi, yoga, karana, vaara etc. In all probability, this is what Sri Padmanabha Acharya did. To the best of my knowledge, such details were not given in any classic. All the objective data we know from various classics (e.g. Rohini, midnight, Taurus lagna etc) has already been listed by Dr. Raman and others. May Jupiter's light shine on us, PVR > Dear Ramadas and Sridhar, > Thanx for the help. I will work on the calculations, however i have noted 1 error. Bava Karana cannot fall on Krishna Asthami, likely it should read Balava Karana. > Most accept Sreemukha Samvatsara as the birth year of Krishna, it would be interesting to pinpoint the same using Virodhi samvatsara.. oh well now to get down and dirty with the calculations. > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic- astrologybphs.zip > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda- ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html > - > "sridhar k" <kopparsa> > <vedic astrology> > Friday, November 22, 2002 8:29 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Chart for SriKrishn > > > > > > Shree Vishnusahashra Nama is as told by BHISMA to Yudhistira. This is frm the > > original MAHABHARATA. I do not know the exct chapter. > > > > --- Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > > > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA > > > Namaste Visti, > > > The information which I gave is from a book about Sri Vishnu Sahasra Naama > > > and and Sri Krishna Ashtottara Shatanaama Stotra with comments on Janmashtami > > > Pooja written by a famous Panchanga Vidwan Sri Padmanabha Acharya from Udipi > > > which is near to Mangalore.But from which classics he has taken has to be > > > confirmed by him only. > > > With best regards, > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote:Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah > > > Jum Om > > > > > > Dear Ramadas,Thankyou for this priceless contribution. However which classic > > > is this from?Best wishes > > > Visti > > > --- > > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: > > > vedic astrologybphs.zip > > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda- ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html----- > > > Original Message ----- Ramadas Rao vedic- astrology > > > Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:41 PMRe: [vedic- astrology] Re: > > > Chart for SriKrishn > > > > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA > > > Namaste all listed members, > > > Recently in one of the old books I saw about the birth informations of Sri > > > Krishna.It is in Sanskrit.So those who can understand this Shloka ,I think it > > > may be of use to find out the exact date of birth of Sri Krishna ; > > > It says like this :SWASTI SRI MADBHAGAVATHO MAHAPURUSHASYA PRAVARTHAMAANASYA > > > BRAHMANAM DWITEEYA PARARDHE SHWETAVARAHA KALPE VAIVASWATA MANVANTARE > > > ASHTAVIMSHATITAME MAHAYUGANTARGAThA DWAPARA YUGASYA 8,63,900 NAVA SHATYTTARA > > > TRISHASHTI SAHASRAADHIKASHTA LAKSHANI 100 AEKA SHAThAANI ThADhA PRAVARTAMAANE > > > VIRODHI NAAMA SAMVATSARE, DAKSHINAAYANE ,VARSHA RITAU, SHRAVANA MAASE, > > > KRISHNA PAKSHE ,ASHTAMI ThITHOU,BUDHAVASARE 50-44,ROHINI 52- 51,VAJRA YOGA > > > 53-20,BAVA KARANA 27 ; EVAM PANCHANGA SHUDDHESMIN DINE SRI MAARTAANADA > > > MANDALAARDHO UDAYAAT GAThA GHATIKA 45-05 ,VRISHABHA LAGNODAYE PUNYODAYA > > > VEELAYAAM JAMBU DWEEPE BHARAThA KHANDE YAMUNA ThEERE SRI MANMATHURA NAGARA > > > SRI SOMA VAMSHOTPANNA SHOORASENA RAJATMAJA SRI VASUDEVA RAJA > > > VIRAAJAMANASThASYA GRIHE ,YAA SAUBHAGYADYA AKHILA GUNA SAMPANNA DEVAKI ThASYA > > > UDARE KARAGRIHE ASHTAMA PUTRASYA SRI KRISHNASYA JANMAABHOOTh. > > > I hope this will be of help to those Gurus who can now find out the exact > > > year and date of birth of Sri Krishna Bhagavaan. > > > With best regards, > > > Ramadas Rao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2002 Report Share Posted November 23, 2002 OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Namaste Visti and Narasimha Raoji, I gave to the list what I read.But as Sri Padmanabha Acharya is a Panchanga Vidwan it is possible that he might have calculated by going through some classics and arrived at his own figure.So if you find there is any discrepeny in this,please discard this. Thanks and with best regards, Ramadas Rao.--- pvr108 <pvr wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> Namaste all,<BR> <BR> Mahabharata does give Vishnu Sahasra Nama Stotram, but does not give <BR> what Ramadas Rao quoted. The scholar who compiled the stotras most <BR> probably had a particular chart in mind (based on whatever siddhanta <BR> and ayanamsa used by him) and worked out karana, vara, yoga, tithi <BR> etc based on it. I do not think all these details were given in any <BR> classic.<BR> <BR> For example, I found a chart with 2 Devalokamsa planets conjoining <BR> within 7 arc-min giving a raja yoga as said by Parasara regarding <BR> Vishnu's avataras. In one of my books in future, I can make up a <BR> verse on Krishna's birthdata using this chart and give tithi, yoga, <BR> karana, vaara etc.<BR> <BR> In all probability, this is what Sri Padmanabha Acharya did. To the <BR> best of my knowledge, such details were not given in any classic. All <BR> the objective data we know from various classics (e.g. Rohini, <BR> midnight, Taurus lagna etc) has already been listed by Dr. Raman and <BR> others.<BR> <BR> May Jupiter's light shine on us,<BR> PVR<BR> <BR> > Dear Ramadas and Sridhar,<BR> > Thanx for the help. I will work on the calculations, however i have <BR> noted 1 error. Bava Karana cannot fall on Krishna Asthami, likely it <BR> should read Balava Karana.<BR> > Most accept Sreemukha Samvatsara as the birth year of Krishna, it <BR> would be interesting to pinpoint the same using Virodhi samvatsara.. <BR> oh well now to get down and dirty with the calculations.<BR> > Best wishes<BR> > Visti<BR> > ---<BR> > Bhagavad Purana: <a href="http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org">http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org</a><BR> > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: <a href="vedic-"> of Service</a>.</tt> </br> </body></html> ______________________ Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, TV. visit http://in.tv.''>http://in.tv.'>http://in.tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2002 Report Share Posted November 25, 2002 Hare Rama Krsna! Jaya Jagannath! I did some research today and found the interesting quote from Brahmanda Purana, where Lord Krishna's appearance in this Varaha Kalpa and Vaisvasvat Manvantara is described. It reads: "The asterism on the day Krsna was born was Abhijit. The night was called Jayanti, which is the 8th tithi of the dark half of the month of Sravana, the asterism of Rohini was rising at midnight, and the Muhurta was called Vijaya." We could ask ourselves: what is the meaning of the asterism being Abhijit? Someone knows which Muhurta is called Vijaya? A comment on Ramadas Rao's text, if indeed this yoga was present: VAJRA YOGA: all benefics in lagna and 7th house, or all malefics in 4th and 10th house. I would opt for all malefics in 4th and 10th house, since Venus, lagna lord is a benefic and cannot be in lagna or 7th, since it's never so far from Sun, who is in 4th house. Furthermore, to possible enhance our search for Lord Krishna's chart, Srila Prabhupada writes in his Krsna-Book, a summary of the 10th canto of Srimad-Bhagavatam, that Lord Krsna's birth details are nicely represented in an astronomical work, called Khamanikya. Anyone knows about this work? Your sishya, Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2002 Report Share Posted November 25, 2002 Friends, I came across an interesting version of Lord Sri Krishna's chart almost 10 yrs ago. Unfortunately, I don't remember the exact postions (degrees & min) of the planets. I am sure that article must be lying somewhere backhome in India. I will try to get that article from India...until then here is some food for thought for all of us.. Lagna,Moon,Rahu in Taurus, Sun in Leo, Merc in Virgo, Venus in Libra, Mars,Ketu in Scorpio, Jupiter in Sagitarius Saturn in Capricorn Each planet is either exalted or in its home ! thanks Vishnu --- Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS wrote: > Hare Rama Krsna! > > Jaya Jagannath! > > I did some research today and found the interesting > quote from Brahmanda > Purana, where Lord Krishna's appearance in this > Varaha Kalpa and > Vaisvasvat Manvantara is described. It reads: > > "The asterism on the day Krsna was born was Abhijit. > The night was called > Jayanti, which is the 8th tithi of the dark half of > the month of Sravana, > the asterism of Rohini was rising at midnight, and > the Muhurta was called > Vijaya." > > We could ask ourselves: what is the meaning of the > asterism being Abhijit? > Someone knows which Muhurta is called Vijaya? > > A comment on Ramadas Rao's text, if indeed this yoga > was present: > > VAJRA YOGA: all benefics in lagna and 7th house, or > all malefics in 4th > and 10th house. I would opt for all malefics in 4th > and 10th house, since > Venus, lagna lord is a benefic and cannot be in > lagna or 7th, since it's > never so far from Sun, who is in 4th house. > > Furthermore, to possible enhance our search for Lord > Krishna's chart, > Srila Prabhupada writes in his Krsna-Book, a summary > of the 10th canto of > Srimad-Bhagavatam, that Lord Krsna's birth details > are nicely represented > in an astronomical work, called Khamanikya. Anyone > knows about this work? > > Your sishya, > Dhira Krsna dasa > Mail Plus – Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2002 Report Share Posted November 25, 2002 Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om Dear Dhira, Yoga can also be 1 of the Pancha-angas, which is most likely incase of mentioning times of birth. There are 27 Yoga, calculated by taking the longitude of the Sun and Moon, and adding them. Thereafter remove multiples of 360 degrees, and add the result to the degree of Pusya Nakshetra. The result will give a nakshetra. Do read Narasimhas writing where he describes the use of the panchaanga. Here are the 27 yogas counted from pusya; S.No. Yoga Lord 1. Vishkumbha Sat.2. Priti Merc.3. Ayusman Ketu4. Saubhagya Ven.5. Shobhna Sun6. Atiganda Moon7. Sukarma Mars8. Dhriti Rahu9. Shula Jup.10. Ganda Sat.11. Vridhi Merc.12. Dhruva Ketu13. Vyaghata Ven14. Harshna Sun15. Vajra Moon16. Siddhi Mars17. Vyatipata Rahu18. Variyan Jup.19. Parigha Sat.20. Shiva Merc.21. Siddha Ketu22. Sadhya Ven.23. Shubha Sun24. Shukla Moon25. Brahma Mars26. Indra Rahu27. Vaidhriti Jup. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - Dhira Krsna BCS vedic astrology Monday, November 25, 2002 7:26 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Chart for SriKrishn Hare Rama Krsna!Jaya Jagannath!I did some research today and found the interesting quote from BrahmandaPurana, where Lord Krishna's appearance in this Varaha Kalpa andVaisvasvat Manvantara is described. It reads:"The asterism on the day Krsna was born was Abhijit. The night was calledJayanti, which is the 8th tithi of the dark half of the month of Sravana,the asterism of Rohini was rising at midnight, and the Muhurta was calledVijaya."We could ask ourselves: what is the meaning of the asterism being Abhijit?Someone knows which Muhurta is called Vijaya?A comment on Ramadas Rao's text, if indeed this yoga was present:VAJRA YOGA: all benefics in lagna and 7th house, or all malefics in 4thand 10th house. I would opt for all malefics in 4th and 10th house, sinceVenus, lagna lord is a benefic and cannot be in lagna or 7th, since it'snever so far from Sun, who is in 4th house.Furthermore, to possible enhance our search for Lord Krishna's chart,Srila Prabhupada writes in his Krsna-Book, a summary of the 10th canto ofSrimad-Bhagavatam, that Lord Krsna's birth details are nicely representedin an astronomical work, called Khamanikya. Anyone knows about this work?Your sishya,Dhira Krsna dasaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2002 Report Share Posted November 25, 2002 Om Krishna Guru : Dear Dhira, Visti: >From dhira's message >>"I did some research today and found the interesting quote from >>Brahmanda Purana, where Lord Krishna's appearance in this Varaha >>Kalpa and Vaisvasvat Manvantara is described. It reads: >>"The asterism on the day Krsna was born was Abhijit. The night was >>called Jayanti, which is the 8th tithi of the dark half of the >>month of Sravana, the asterism of Rohini was rising at midnight, >>and the Muhurta was called Vijaya." >>We could ask ourselves: what is the meaning of the asterism being >>Abhijit? " My question is How could the asterism abhijit be on the day and rohini in the night ? If you see the placement on sarvotbhadra chakra abhijit and rohini are vedha (opposite to each other ) a difference of atleast 11 constellations drom abhijit to rohini, and moon staying at most in an asterism in a tithi. My explanation would be the way of counting the days was probably different or abhijit is not a stationary star and, it is changing its position with time. Could anyone clarify the issue ? If there is something wrong in the way I am interpreting this, please correct me. I have not read the purana mentioned by dhira so do not know much about it. Ishwar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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