Guest guest Posted October 30, 2002 Report Share Posted October 30, 2002 Hello everyone, I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently there have been discussions about Ketu. As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. Some key words for Ketu: LIBERATION The Unknown Darkness Frustration Movement Suddeness Sting(s) …. Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about – ***************************************** A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut off its head. This led to two parts of one – Ketu being the headless body. ***************************************** Because of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens causes frustration. Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it is taking from where it is. Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, when moving into Libra ("Tula"). Picture the scenario: It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow is on the car – part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and the shape adapts to he surroundings…… similar to water…. Ketu has to adapt. 1 Interesting combination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also has an effect on it. Or each other. A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated with this constellation. The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How this this affect you? Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The reader could use their imagination – one could go on. Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are running will also have a bearing on this. Regarding children – don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this posting, or the posting of others – use your own discretion and experiences as well. I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based on the Vimshottari Dasha System. Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused a mot of movement (across states), and caused sudden unexpected incidents. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to live in harmony. However, the end results have always been liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I am taking remedies to ease the suffering. Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of other reasons – they are there. Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu: http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.html http://.org/lessons/drishti.htm I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would like to. Questions or criticism are always welcome. Best wishes and warm regards, Nitin. astro2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2002 Report Share Posted October 30, 2002 Dear Nitin, Thank you so much. Om Namah Shivaya Jim Carroll --- astronitin <astronitin wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have usually shied away from posting to the list, > but recently > there have been discussions about Ketu. > > As in any chart, various factors have to be > considered to see how a > certain placement of planets affects the native. The > following are by > beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. > > Some key words for Ketu: > > LIBERATION > The Unknown > Darkness > Frustration > Movement > Suddeness > Sting(s) > …. > > Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about – > > ***************************************** > A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for > immortality ("amrit > ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the > Demon put the nectar > to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the > Hindu Trinity, cut > off its head. This led to two parts of one – Ketu > being the headless > body. > ***************************************** > > Because of its headless nature, Ketu is always > seeking direction. It > is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of > movement. It oftens > causes frustration. > > Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain > for itself, it > is taking from where it is. > > Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a > demon outcaste by > the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to > the house it > visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like > Venus next year, > when moving into Libra ("Tula"). > > Picture the scenario: > It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic > intersection, about > to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your > shadow is in front > of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops > now. Your shadow > is on the car – part on the ground, and part on the > vehicle. You > cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits > the hedges, and > the shape adapts to he surroundings…… similar to > water…. Ketu has to > adapt. > > 1 Interesting combination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + > Smoke. Examine the > last time these planets were together, and see what > happened. So, > just as other planets influence each other, a planet > with Ketu also > has an effect on it. Or each other. > > A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many > consider it > exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is > usually associated > with this constellation. > > The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of > the body. This has > a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it > usually causes a > final setback, or sting related to the house. Look > back in your > charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its > usual 18months. How > this this affect you? > > Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / > sensations to that > house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in > relationships, or > unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to > several changes > in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The > reader could use > their imagination – one could go on. > > Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness > related to 5th > house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A > young man may feel > an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment > from a child, for > a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what > Dashs you are > running will also have a bearing on this. > > Regarding children – don't forget Jupiter, the > natural significator > for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. > Don't forget Argalas, > and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget > your spouse's / > partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't > go solely on this > posting, or the posting of others – use your own > discretion and > experiences as well. > > I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my > Ketu Dasha based > on the Vimshottari Dasha System. > > Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under > illusions, caused > a mot of movement (across states), and caused sudden > unexpected > incidents. I have been passive, and have submitted > to the stars, to > live in harmony. However, the end results have > always been > liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider > myself blessed. > It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At > the same time, I > am taking remedies to ease the suffering. > > Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against > Ketu. Think of > other reasons – they are there. > > Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu: > > http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.html > > http://.org/lessons/drishti.htm > > > I hope some of this helps give a better > understanding of Ketu. There > is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts > mentioned, are > simply an awareness, and not something I have been > able see in > charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as > much as I would > like to. > > Questions or criticism are always welcome. > > Best wishes and warm regards, > Nitin. > > astro2 > > > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2002 Report Share Posted October 31, 2002 Dear Nitin, Thanks for your insights on Ketu. I must say that this mail gets into my learners archive. It was very valuable for a learner like me. A question on Ketu and the Moon. Btw, I have Ketu and the Moon together in the 5th (in Leo). As per the story, I would assume Ketu has a grudge on the Moon and hence they are not necessarily bosom pals! What is the impact of a Ketu/Moon conjunction - of course, implied is also the drishti from Rahu on Moon ? Would appreciate yours and others thoughts on this. Kind regards ss astronitin [astronitin ] Sent: 30 October 2002 20:19vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu...Hello everyone, I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently there have been discussions about Ketu. As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. Some key words for Ketu:LIBERATION The Unknown Darkness Frustration Movement Suddeness Sting(s)….Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about – *****************************************A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut off its head. This led to two parts of one – Ketu being the headless body. *****************************************Because of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens causes frustration. Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it is taking from where it is.Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, when moving into Libra ("Tula"). Picture the scenario:It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow is on the car – part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and the shape adapts to he surroundings…… similar to water…. Ketu has to adapt. 1 Interesting combination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also has an effect on it. Or each other. A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated with this constellation. The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How this this affect you?Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The reader could use their imagination – one could go on. Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are running will also have a bearing on this. Regarding children – don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this posting, or the posting of others – use your own discretion and experiences as well. I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based on the Vimshottari Dasha System.Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused a mot of movement (across states), and caused sudden unexpected incidents. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to live in harmony. However, the end results have always been liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I am taking remedies to ease the suffering. Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of other reasons – they are there. Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu:http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.htmlhttp://.org/lessons/drishti.htm I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would like to. Questions or criticism are always welcome. Best wishes and warm regards,Nitin.astro2 (AT) justnitin (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2002 Report Share Posted October 31, 2002 Amazing!!! that was indeed very simple yet very informative work i was looking for concerned to this topic being a beginner. u know well good work result some more confusions too..... so they r here... 1. perhaps for the first time i heard of ketu's sting. hmmmm... analysing my own chart it looks it do has some say on it. but does that mean after every 18 months u get a sting related to a particular house? and does everytime this sting is bad? well... sometimes stings cure too. but what about ketu's sting? 2. how to judge the remedy for ketu? whats the basis of jupiter being saviour in ketu dasa? i m too running ketu MD (ketu in 4th with sat®), and well..... i myself think i m getting impossible in every phase (courtesey KAY :-) ). 3. i read in COVA deb. nodes give rajyoga. now..... does this yoga gives effect in the dashas of both the nodes or there is some hidden trick to analyse for a peculiar node. 4. somewhere i read placing dhwaja i.e. ketu (flag) on any temple is the remedy. whats the basis of this? does this refer to getting head to headless? Gurus and learned members are requested to plz guide. regards, Nisha astronitin <astronitin > wrote: Hello everyone, I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently there have been discussions about Ketu. As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. Some key words for Ketu:LIBERATION The Unknown Darkness Frustration Movement Suddeness Sting(s)….Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about – *****************************************A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut off its head. This led to two parts of one – Ketu being the headless body. *****************************************Because of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens causes frustration. Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it is taking from where it is.Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, when moving into Libra ("Tula"). Picture the scenario:It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow is on the car – part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and the shape adapts to he surroundings…… similar to water…. Ketu has to adapt. 1 Interesting combination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also has an effect on it. Or each other. A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated with this constellation. The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How this this affect you?Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The reader could use their imagination – one could go on. Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are running will also have a bearing on this. Regarding children – don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this posting, or the posting of others – use your own discretion and experiences as well. I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based on the Vimshottari Dasha System.Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused a mot of movement (across states), and caused sudden unexpected incidents. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to live in harmony. However, the end results have always been liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I am taking remedies to ease the suffering. Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of other reasons – they are there. Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu:http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.htmlhttp://.org/lessons/drishti.htm I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would like to. Questions or criticism are always welcome. Best wishes and warm regards,Nitin.astro2 (AT) justnitin (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do you ? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2002 Report Share Posted October 31, 2002 Dear SS, I rather like your actual name instead of this Ketu's influences. Please read my comments below, which I could not ignore. Thanks for your insights on Ketu. I must say that this mail gets into my learners archive. It was very valuable for a learner like me. A question on Ketu and the Moon. Btw, I have Ketu and the Moon together in the 5th (in Leo). As per the story, I would assume Ketu has a grudge on the Moon and hence they are not necessarily bosom pals! What is the impact of a Ketu/Moon conjunction - of course, implied is also the drishti from Rahu on Moon ? Ketu, of course headless, means no disire. Significater of Moksha, some thing completely away from Time & Space. So no exist or ever exists (don't know until realize it). This is the only and single goal of atma which we called liberation or Vimukthi. Some say Nibbana and some say God, depending on their language and culture. Natural karaka for Atma is Sun and, that is why Sun is enjoying in Aries where Asvini is, Ketu's place. It is only the Moon (Mana or Mind) is the most terrible barrier to moksha as we have to control this all and every desires to reach there. That is why little Ganesh cursed moon, as Moon obstructed Ganeshji's enjoyment with those sweets. Now see degrees of Ketu and Moon. Is Moon liberated or not ?? Hope this will help you. Thanks Karu Would appreciate yours and others thoughts on this. Kind regards ss astronitin [astronitin ] Sent: 30 October 2002 20:19vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu...Hello everyone, I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently there have been discussions about Ketu. As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. Some key words for Ketu:LIBERATION The Unknown Darkness Frustration Movement Suddeness Sting(s)….Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about – *****************************************A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut off its head. This led to two parts of one – Ketu being the headless body. *****************************************Because of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens causes frustration. Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it is taking from where it is.Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, when moving into Libra ("Tula"). Picture the scenario:It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow is on the car – part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and the shape adapts to he surroundings…… similar to water…. Ketu has to adapt. 1 Interesting combination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also has an effect on it. Or each other. A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated with this constellation. The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How this this affect you?Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The reader could use their imagination – one could go on. Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are running will also have a bearing on this. Regarding children – don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this posting, or the posting of others – use your own discretion and experiences as well. I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based on the Vimshottari Dasha System.Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused a mot of movement (across states), and caused sudden unexpected incidents. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to live in harmony. However, the end results have always been liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I am taking remedies to ease the suffering. Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of other reasons – they are there. Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu:http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.htmlhttp://.org/lessons/drishti.htm I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would like to. Questions or criticism are always welcome. Best wishes and warm regards,Nitin.astro2 (AT) justnitin (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted October 31, 2002 Report Share Posted October 31, 2002 Dear Nisha, My thoughts / observations are below….. 1. perhaps for the first time i heard of ketu's sting. hmmmm... analysing my own chart it looks it do has some say on it. but does that mean after every 18 months u get a sting related to a particular house? and does everytime this sting is bad? well... sometimes stings cure too. but what about ketu's sting? [Via NK] Sometimes we hardly notice a sting, similar to the prick of a needle. Just as a syringe can carry medicine to the body, Ketu's sting may be beneficial. "Good" or "Bad" are relative terms, and I try to avoid them. 2. how to judge the remedy for ketu? whats the basis of jupiter being saviour in ketu dasa? i m too running ketu MD (ketu in 4th with sat ®), and well..... i myself think i m getting impossible in every phase (courtesey KAY :-) ). [Via NK] Jupiter, the planet of Wisdon, maturity and LIGHT helps defeat darkness. He is hard to mold, as he has taken great form and established himself. He is confident, and knows his path. He helps choose options and pathways. Jupiter, just like others can also be stressful to natives, depending on the Charts and the Dashas. However, he is generally worshipped to looked upon to ease the influence of Ketu. 3. i read in COVA deb. nodes give rajyoga. now..... does this yoga gives effect in the dashas of both the nodes or there is some hidden trick to analyse for a peculiar node. I am not familiar with this. Perhaps when you do more research, you can share with te list…?4. somewhere i read placing dhwaja i.e. ketu (flag) on any temple is the remedy. whats the basis of this? does this refer to getting head to headless? [Via NK] There are several creative remedies recommended by Astrologers, depending on the chart, and the receptivity of the native. Appease Ketu, or strengthen Jupiter. There are various ways of doing this. Do volunteer work on Thursdays (for the aged). Wear Yellow for luck and light (Jupiter). Avoid dark colors for KetuRecite Mantras for Ketu or JupiterWear Pokhraj (Yellow sapphire) or appropriate stones for the planets. One could go on. Gurus and learned members are requested to plz guide. regards, Nisha [Via NK] Good luck in your research. Best wishes and warm regards, Nitin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2002 Report Share Posted October 31, 2002 Om Krishna Guru Dear Nitin, I cannot imagine life without my stay with maternal grandmother. Her enlightening Buddhist rituals and myths and daily temple visits, while I was taught calligraphy by my grandfather with the bamboo brush during my Ketu years. (Almost babe in arms until the age of 6), when we flew back to our parents. My recollections of the myths are those formative years that I now try and piece together. Best wishes, Swee astronitin [astronitin] Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:46 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Some more thoughts on Ketu... Dear Nisha, My thoughts / observations are below..... 1. perhaps for the first time i heard of ketu's sting. hmmmm... analysing my own chart it looks it do has some say on it. but does that mean after every 18 months u get a sting related to a particular house? and does everytime this sting is bad? well... sometimes stings cure too. but what about ketu's sting? [Via NK] Sometimes we hardly notice a sting, similar to the prick of a needle. Just as a syringe can carry medicine to the body, Ketu's sting may be beneficial. "Good" or "Bad" are relative terms, and I try to avoid them. 2. how to judge the remedy for ketu? whats the basis of jupiter being saviour in ketu dasa? i m too running ketu MD (ketu in 4th with sat ®), and well..... i myself think i m getting impossible in every phase (courtesey KAY :-) ). [Via NK] Jupiter, the planet of Wisdon, maturity and LIGHT helps defeat darkness. He is hard to mold, as he has taken great form and established himself. He is confident, and knows his path. He helps choose options and pathways. Jupiter, just like others can also be stressful to natives, depending on the Charts and the Dashas. However, he is generally worshipped to looked upon to ease the influence of Ketu. 3. i read in COVA deb. nodes give rajyoga. now..... does this yoga gives effect in the dashas of both the nodes or there is some hidden trick to analyse for a peculiar node. I am not familiar with this. Perhaps when you do more research, you can share with te list...?4. somewhere i read placing dhwaja i.e. ketu (flag) on any temple is the remedy. whats the basis of this? does this refer to getting head to headless? [Via NK] There are several creative remedies recommended by Astrologers, depending on the chart, and the receptivity of the native. Appease Ketu, or strengthen Jupiter. There are various ways of doing this. Do volunteer work on Thursdays (for the aged). Wear Yellow for luck and light (Jupiter). Avoid dark colors for KetuRecite Mantras for Ketu or JupiterWear Pokhraj (Yellow sapphire) or appropriate stones for the planets. One could go on. Gurus and learned members are requested to plz guide. regards, Nisha [Via NK] Good luck in your research. Best wishes and warm regards, Nitin. Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2002 Report Share Posted October 31, 2002 Even i am having ketu with moon in taurus.And i am having rahu in scorpio.Moon is in star kritika and ketu is in rohini.And rahu is in anuradha star.Is there any point to note??Please comment on this one. Thanks Raji heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au wrote: Dear SS, I rather like your actual name instead of this Ketu's influences. Please read my comments below, which I could not ignore. Thanks for your insights on Ketu. I must say that this mail gets into my learners archive. It was very valuable for a learner like me. A question on Ketu and the Moon. Btw, I have Ketu and the Moon together in the 5th (in Leo). As per the story, I would assume Ketu has a grudge on the Moon and hence they are not necessarily bosom pals! What is the impact of a Ketu/Moon conjunction - of course, implied is also the drishti from Rahu on Moon ? Ketu, of course headless, means no disire. Significater of Moksha, some thing completely away from Time & Space. So no exist or ever exists (don't know until realize it). This is the only and single goal of atma which we called liberation or Vimukthi. Some say Nibbana and some say God, depending on their language and culture. Natural karaka for Atma is Sun and, that is why Sun is enjoying in Aries where Asvini is, Ketu's place. It is only the Moon (Mana or Mind) is the most terrible barrier to moksha as we have to control this all and every desires to reach there. That is why little Ganesh cursed moon, as Moon obstructed Ganeshji's enjoyment with those sweets. Now see degrees of Ketu and Moon. Is Moon liberated or not ?? Hope this will help you. Thanks Karu Would appreciate yours and others thoughts on this. Kind regards ss astronitin [astronitin ] Sent: 30 October 2002 20:19vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu...Hello everyone, I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently there have been discussions about Ketu. As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. Some key words for Ketu:LIBERATION The Unknown Darkness Frustration Movement Suddeness Sting(s)….Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about – *****************************************A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut off its head. This led to two parts of one – Ketu being the headless body. *****************************************Because of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens causes frustration. Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it is taking from where it is.Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, when moving into Libra ("Tula"). Picture the scenario:It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow is on the car – part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and the shape adapts to he surroundings…… similar to water…. Ketu has to adapt. 1 Interesting combination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also has an effect on it. Or each other. A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated with this constellation. The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How this this affect you?Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The reader could use their imagination – one could go on. Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are running will also have a bearing on this. Regarding children – don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this posting, or the posting of others – use your own discretion and experiences as well. I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based on the Vimshottari Dasha System.Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused a mot of movement (across states), and caused sudden unexpected incidents. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to live in harmony. However, the end results have always been liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I am taking remedies to ease the suffering. Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of other reasons – they are there. Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu:http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.htmlhttp://.org/lessons/drishti.htm I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would like to. Questions or criticism are always welcome. Best wishes and warm regards,Nitin.astro2 (AT) justnitin (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.406 / Virus Database: 229 - Release Date: 21/10/2002Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do you ? 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Guest guest Posted October 31, 2002 Report Share Posted October 31, 2002 till now i was refraining from writing in detail, b'coz of my laziness. nitin rightly quoted the story of amrit -manthan, which most astrologers qoute 2 understand nodes. but they miss some vital points. 1) rahu drank amrit , after drinking he was more than satisfied. amrit is something after which u r not interested in anything else. but the lower portion ketu remained craving for amrit. i think thats another reason why rahu and not ketu is regarded as param parmatansh planet 2) since ketu craves for amrit ( which makes u free from bondages), it is regarded as mokshakaraka, the node which will produce craving for immortality, salvation( the soul is immortal,but one needs to seek the truth), or liberation. 3) since it wants , longs or craves , ...the house in which it is posited it will produce attachment to significations pertaining to that particular house.( i know many people wont like the word attachment being used in context 2 ketu. ) but plz first check in horoscope, ke in 1house -ambition 2house- attached 2 family 3 - attached 2 younger brother( next 2 him) 4- attached 2 mother ......& so on that is why ke in 9 make one seek spirituality & religion.....and ke in 12 means seeking moksha ( only if aspected by benefics) the degree of bondage will depend on strengh of house and its lord. if it very strong , u 'll come out of it , as it is more likely to give positive results. for ex. ketu in strong 11 house will mke one run after money , but he will get it if it(the house) is strong. similaly , one can extend this to planets also.position of ketu from respective planets... or if some planet is severely afflicted with ketu , check its general significations and lordship. this theory was taught 2 me by mohan bhai of gujarat, i have tried and tested it on almost every horoscope with cent percent accuracy. prashant astronitin <astronitin > wrote: Hello everyone, I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently there have been discussions about Ketu. As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. Some key words for Ketu:LIBERATION The Unknown Darkness Frustration Movement Suddeness Sting(s)….Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about – *****************************************A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut off its head. This led to two parts of one – Ketu being the headless body. *****************************************Because of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens causes frustration. Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it is taking from where it is.Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, when moving into Libra ("Tula"). Picture the scenario:It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow is on the car – part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and the shape adapts to he surroundings…… similar to water…. Ketu has to adapt. 1 Interesting combination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also has an effect on it. Or each other. A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated with this constellation. The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How this this affect you?Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The reader could use their imagination – one could go on. Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are running will also have a bearing on this. Regarding children – don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this posting, or the posting of others – use your own discretion and experiences as well. I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based on the Vimshottari Dasha System.Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused a mot of movement (across states), and caused sudden unexpected incidents. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to live in harmony. However, the end results have always been liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I am taking remedies to ease the suffering. Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of other reasons – they are there. Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu:http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.htmlhttp://.org/lessons/drishti.htm I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would like to. Questions or criticism are always welcome. Best wishes and warm regards,Nitin.astro2 (AT) justnitin (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do you ? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2002 Report Share Posted October 31, 2002 Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah Dear Prashant, How can an entity without eyes have any cravings/desires? Ketu is Moksha Karaka because it has NO desires. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - prashant narang vedic astrology Friday, November 01, 2002 4:41 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu... hi all till now i was refraining from writing in detail, b'coz of my laziness. nitin rightly quoted the story of amrit -manthan, which most astrologers qoute 2 understand nodes. but they miss some vital points. 1) rahu drank amrit , after drinking he was more than satisfied. amrit is something after which u r not interested in anything else. but the lower portion ketu remained craving for amrit. i think thats another reason why rahu and not ketu is regarded as param parmatansh planet 2) since ketu craves for amrit ( which makes u free from bondages), it is regarded as mokshakaraka, the node which will produce craving for immortality, salvation( the soul is immortal,but one needs to seek the truth), or liberation. 3) since it wants , longs or craves , ...the house in which it is posited it will produce attachment to significations pertaining to that particular house.( i know many people wont like the word attachment being used in context 2 ketu. ) but plz first check in horoscope, ke in 1house -ambition 2house- attached 2 family 3 - attached 2 younger brother( next 2 him) 4- attached 2 mother .....& so on that is why ke in 9 make one seek spirituality & religion.....and ke in 12 means seeking moksha ( only if aspected by benefics) the degree of bondage will depend on strengh of house and its lord. if it very strong , u 'll come out of it , as it is more likely to give positive results. for ex. ketu in strong 11 house will mke one run after money , but he will get it if it(the house) is strong. similaly , one can extend this to planets also.position of ketu from respective planets... or if some planet is severely afflicted with ketu , check its general significations and lordship. this theory was taught 2 me by mohan bhai of gujarat, i have tried and tested it on almost every horoscope with cent percent accuracy. prashant astronitin <astronitin > wrote: Hello everyone, I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently there have been discussions about Ketu. As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. Some key words for Ketu:LIBERATION The Unknown Darkness Frustration Movement Suddeness Sting(s)….Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about – *****************************************A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut off its head. This led to two parts of one – Ketu being the headless body. *****************************************Because of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens causes frustration. Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it is taking from where it is.Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, when moving into Libra ("Tula"). Picture the scenario:It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow is on the car – part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and the shape adapts to he surroundings…… similar to water…. Ketu has to adapt. 1 Interesting combination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also has an effect on it. Or each other. A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated with this constellation. The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How this this affect you?Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The reader could use their imagination – one could go on. Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are running will also have a bearing on this. Regarding children – don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this posting, or the posting of others – use your own discretion and experiences as well. I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based on the Vimshottari Dasha System.Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused a mot of movement (across states), and caused sudden unexpected incidents. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to live in harmony. However, the end results have always been liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I am taking remedies to ease the suffering. Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of other reasons – they are there. Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu:http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.htmlhttp://.org/lessons/drishti.htm I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would like to. Questions or criticism are always welcome. Best wishes and warm regards,Nitin.astro2 (AT) justnitin (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 31, 2002 Report Share Posted October 31, 2002 Dear Raji, Try your self. I have given all informations. Compare with some other charts and that is much better for understanding. Thanks Karu HI SS & Karu, Even i am having ketu with moon in taurus.And i am having rahu in scorpio.Moon is in star kritika and ketu is in rohini.And rahu is in anuradha star.Is there any point to note??Please comment on this one. Thanks Raji heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au wrote: Dear SS, I rather like your actual name instead of this Ketu's influences. Please read my comments below, which I could not ignore. Thanks for your insights on Ketu. I must say that this mail gets into my learners archive. It was very valuable for a learner like me. A question on Ketu and the Moon. Btw, I have Ketu and the Moon together in the 5th (in Leo). As per the story, I would assume Ketu has a grudge on the Moon and hence they are not necessarily bosom pals! What is the impact of a Ketu/Moon conjunction - of course, implied is also the drishti from Rahu on Moon ? Ketu, of course headless, means no disire. Significater of Moksha, some thing completely away from Time & Space. So no exist or ever exists (don't know until realize it). This is the only and single goal of atma which we called liberation or Vimukthi. Some say Nibbana and some say God, depending on their language and culture. Natural karaka for Atma is Sun and, that is why Sun is enjoying in Aries where Asvini is, Ketu's place. It is only the Moon (Mana or Mind) is the most terrible barrier to moksha as we have to control this all and every desires to reach there. That is why little Ganesh cursed moon, as Moon obstructed Ganeshji's enjoyment with those sweets. Now see degrees of Ketu and Moon. Is Moon liberated or not ?? Hope this will help you. Thanks Karu Would appreciate yours and others thoughts on this. Kind regards ss astronitin [astronitin ] Sent: 30 October 2002 20:19vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu...Hello everyone, I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently there have been discussions about Ketu. As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. Some key words for Ketu:LIBERATION The Unknown Darkness Frustration Movement Suddeness Sting(s)….Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about – *****************************************A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut off its head. This led to two parts of one – Ketu being the headless body. *****************************************Because of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens causes frustration. Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it is taking from where it is.Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, when moving into Libra ("Tula"). Picture the scenario:It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow is on the car – part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and the shape adapts to he surroundings…… similar to water…. Ketu has to adapt. 1 Interesting combination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also has an effect on it. Or each other. A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated with this constellation. The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How this this affect you?Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The reader could use their imagination – one could go on. Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are running will also have a bearing on this. Regarding children – don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this posting, or the posting of others – use your own discretion and experiences as well. I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based on the Vimshottari Dasha System.Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused a mot of movement (across states), and caused sudden unexpected incidents. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to live in harmony. However, the end results have always been liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I am taking remedies to ease the suffering. Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of other reasons – they are there. Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu:http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.htmlhttp://.org/lessons/drishti.htm I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. 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Guest guest Posted November 1, 2002 Report Share Posted November 1, 2002 Hi Prashant, I know of at least 2 charts with ketu in 9th. One is an atheist, the other is only nominally interested in religion. Both are very ethical people, though. I know a couple with ketu in 11th. They do not really chase after money at all. Regards, Nimmi - prashant narang vedic astrology Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu... hi all till now i was refraining from writing in detail, b'coz of my laziness. nitin rightly quoted the story of amrit -manthan, which most astrologers qoute 2 understand nodes. but they miss some vital points. 1) rahu drank amrit , after drinking he was more than satisfied. amrit is something after which u r not interested in anything else. but the lower portion ketu remained craving for amrit. i think thats another reason why rahu and not ketu is regarded as param parmatansh planet 2) since ketu craves for amrit ( which makes u free from bondages), it is regarded as mokshakaraka, the node which will produce craving for immortality, salvation( the soul is immortal,but one needs to seek the truth), or liberation. 3) since it wants , longs or craves , ...the house in which it is posited it will produce attachment to significations pertaining to that particular house.( i know many people wont like the word attachment being used in context 2 ketu. ) but plz first check in horoscope, ke in 1house -ambition 2house- attached 2 family 3 - attached 2 younger brother( next 2 him) 4- attached 2 mother .....& so on that is why ke in 9 make one seek spirituality & religion.....and ke in 12 means seeking moksha ( only if aspected by benefics) the degree of bondage will depend on strengh of house and its lord. if it very strong , u 'll come out of it , as it is more likely to give positive results. for ex. ketu in strong 11 house will mke one run after money , but he will get it if it(the house) is strong. similaly , one can extend this to planets also.position of ketu from respective planets... or if some planet is severely afflicted with ketu , check its general significations and lordship. this theory was taught 2 me by mohan bhai of gujarat, i have tried and tested it on almost every horoscope with cent percent accuracy. prashant astronitin <astronitin > wrote: Hello everyone, I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently there have been discussions about Ketu. As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. Some key words for Ketu:LIBERATION The Unknown Darkness Frustration Movement Suddeness Sting(s)….Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about – *****************************************A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut off its head. This led to two parts of one – Ketu being the headless body. ************************ *****************Be! cause of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens causes frustration. Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it is taking from where it is.Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, when moving into Libra ("Tula"). Picture the scenario:It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow is on the car – part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and the shape adapts to he surroundings…… similar to water…. Ketu has to ada pt. 1 Interesting c! ombination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also has an effect on it. Or each other. A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated with this constellation. The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How this this affect you?Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The rea der could use their ima! gination – one could go on. Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are running will also have a bearing on this. Regarding children – don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this posting, or the posting of others – use your own discretion and experiences as well. I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based on the Vimshottari Dasha System.Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused a mot of movement (across states), and caused sud den unexpected incident! s. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to live in harmony. However, the end results have always been liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I am taking remedies to ease the suffering. Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of other reasons – they are there. Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu:http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.htmlhttp://.org/lessons/drishti.htm I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would like to. Question s or criticism are always w! elcome. Best wishes and warm regards,Nitin.astro2 (AT) justnitin (DOT) comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted November 1, 2002 Report Share Posted November 1, 2002 Hello all, Lord Sri Krishna had ketu in 9th house and the Bhagavath gita is the speach by him in his ketu dasa. Regards, Sriram Madras. vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > Hi Prashant, > > I know of at least 2 charts with ketu in 9th. One is an atheist, the other is only nominally interested in religion. Both are very ethical people, though. > > I know a couple with ketu in 11th. They do not really chase after money at all. > > Regards, > > Nimmi > > - > prashant narang > vedic astrology > Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu... > > > hi all > > till now i was refraining from writing in detail, b'coz of my laziness. > > nitin rightly quoted the story of amrit -manthan, which most astrologers qoute 2 understand nodes. but they miss some vital points. > > 1) rahu drank amrit , after drinking he was more than satisfied. amrit is something after which u r not interested in anything else. but the lower portion ketu remained craving for amrit. i think thats another reason why rahu and not ketu is regarded as param parmatansh planet > > 2) since ketu craves for amrit ( which makes u free from bondages), it is regarded as mokshakaraka, the node which will produce craving for immortality, salvation( the soul is immortal,but one needs to seek the truth), or liberation. > > 3) since it wants , longs or craves , ...the house in which it is posited it will produce attachment to significations pertaining to that particular house.( i know many people wont like the word attachment being used in context 2 ketu. ) but plz first check in horoscope, > > ke in > > 1house -ambition > > 2house- attached 2 family > > 3 - attached 2 younger brother( next 2 him) > > 4- attached 2 mother > > .....& so on > > that is why ke in 9 make one seek spirituality & religion.....and ke in 12 means seeking moksha ( only if aspected by benefics) > > the degree of bondage will depend on strengh of house and its lord. if it very strong , u 'll come out of it , as it is more likely to give positive results. for ex. ketu in strong 11 house will mke one run after money , but he will get it if it(the house) is strong. similaly , one can extend this to planets also.position of ketu from respective planets... or if some planet is severely afflicted with ketu , check its general significations and lordship. > > this theory was taught 2 me by mohan bhai of gujarat, i have tried and tested it on almost every horoscope with cent percent accuracy. > > prashant > > astronitin <astronitin> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently > there have been discussions about Ketu. > > As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a > certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by > beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. > > Some key words for Ketu: > > LIBERATION > The Unknown > Darkness > Frustration > Movement > Suddeness > Sting(s) > .. > > Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about - > > ***************************************** > A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit > ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar > to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut > off its head. This led to two parts of one - Ketu being the headless > body. > ************************ ***************** > > Be! cause of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It > is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens > causes frustration. > > Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it > is taking from where it is. > > Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by > the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it > visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, > when moving into Libra ("Tula"). > > Picture the scenario: > It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about > to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front > of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow > is on the car - part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You > cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and > the shape adapts to he surroundings.. similar to water.. Ketu has to > ada pt. > > 1 Interesting c! ombination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the > last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, > just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also > has an effect on it. Or each other. > > A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it > exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated > with this constellation. > > The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has > a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a > final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your > charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How > this this affect you? > > Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that > house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or > unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes > in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The rea der could use > their ima! gination - one could go on. > > Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th > house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel > an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for > a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are > running will also have a bearing on this. > > Regarding children - don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator > for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, > and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / > partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this > posting, or the posting of others - use your own discretion and > experiences as well. > > I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based > on the Vimshottari Dasha System. > > Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused > a mot of movement (across states), and caused sud den unexpected > incident! s. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to > live in harmony. However, the end results have always been > liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. > It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I > am taking remedies to ease the suffering. > > Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of > other reasons - they are there. > > Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu: > > http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.html > > http://.org/lessons/drishti.htm > > > I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There > is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are > simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in > charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would > like to. > > Question s or criticism are always w! elcome. > > Best wishes and warm regards, > Nitin. > > astro2@j... > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted November 1, 2002 Report Share Posted November 1, 2002 Many thanks for this. This email is a cooling, refreshing antidote -- from a true, "accomplishment-relinquishing" sadhaka -- to the kind of 'spiritual materialism'* which sometimes crops up in Jyotish circles. My hat is again off to you. Warmly, Jesse *Here I borrow unabashedly a term for grasping for enlightenment or liberation that was coined circa 1970 by Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche. In a message dated 11/1/2002 1:49:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, srath (AT) srath (DOT) com writes: Om Gurave Namah Dear Prashant, According to this theory, Ketu never got to drink the amrit and Rahu alone drank it - in that case, how is Ketu among the immortal lights? Why was it considered a navagraha? Another point: Ketu does not crave for liberation. Craving or desire is the cause of bondage and Ketu teaches us how to stop craving and become humble and happy, to lose ahamkara. Craving for liberation is yet another desire, and such a desire can cause rebirth. Kenopanishad explains this vividly. It is a strange catch 22 situation where the path is best attained by stopping all desires, including a desire for the path itself or the end result of the path. It is like being in a stage where there is no desire left. It teaches us to 'have action without fruits or without any attachment for what the outcome shall be'. Perhaps you could consider reviewing that list in this light as a desire is nothing but one of the heads (10 heads in all) of Rahu. It is Rahu that causes craving. These two nodes or points of the zodiac are poles apart. Best Regards, Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2002 Report Share Posted November 1, 2002 Hi, I have Ketu in 9th. I was atheist till 30 years (about). Now I'm not atheist Youry +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:24:17 -0000 "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660 Re: Some more thoughts on Ketu... Hi Prashant, I know of at least 2 charts with ketu in 9th. One is an atheist, the other is only nominally interested in religion. Both are very ethical people, though. I know a couple with ketu in 11th. They do not really chase after money at all. Regards, Nimmi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2002 Report Share Posted November 1, 2002 Hare Rama Krishna! Dear Sanjay, >>Kenopanishad explains this vividly. It is a strange catch 22 situation where the path is best attained by stopping all desires, including a desire for the path itself or the end result of the path. It is like being in a stage where there is no desire left. It teaches us to 'have action without fruits or without any attachment for what the outcome shall be'.<< You are quite right Sanjay. This is exactly what Bhagwan (Sri Krishna) has taught us in His Gita. There should be no desire left. The Chapter and the verse I will quote in a followup mail (I remember it as Verse 11 - Chapter ?? - This I will quote - In fact, in this verse, the Lord has spoken of the renunciation in a reverse order as compared to His teachings in the initial Capters on Dharma & Karma Yoga - In this verse He says that even the desire for Moksha should not be there - the context of His speach is renunciation of the fruits of Dharma, in which he classifies the expectation of Mukti from Sadhana/Meditation/Penance too is a limiting factor so far as Moksha is concerned. This is what He calls absolute surrender wherein He alone is the focus.). Initially, this verse was quite confusing, but when I heard a lecture on Bhagawad Gita, this was quite clear to understand. The underlying importance in all this is "Thinking" or the "Jaagrta Avastha" wherein our Dhis Shakti is in constant use and in an awakened state. This is when supreme intelligence is at its best opening all the locked doors for us. Hard to achieve this state though, but we must keep striving. Regards, Sarat. --- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Prashant, > > According to this theory, Ketu never got to drink > the amrit and Rahu alone drank it - in that case, > how is Ketu among the immortal lights? Why was it > considered a navagraha? > > Another point: Ketu does not crave for liberation. > Craving or desire is the cause of bondage and Ketu > teaches us how to stop craving and become humble and > happy, to lose ahamkara. Craving for liberation is > yet another desire, and such a desire can cause > rebirth. Kenopanishad explains this vividly. It is a > strange catch 22 situation where the path is best > attained by stopping all desires, including a desire > for the path itself or the end result of the path. > It is like being in a stage where there is no desire > left. It teaches us to 'have action without fruits > or without any attachment for what the outcome shall > be'. > > Perhaps you could consider reviewing that list in > this light as a desire is nothing but one of the > heads (10 heads in all) of Rahu. It is Rahu that > causes craving. These two nodes or points of the > zodiac are poles apart. > > Best Regards, > Sanjay Rath > > 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Ph-1, New Delhi > 110091, India > Tel: +91-11-2713201 Web: http://srath.com > http://.org > > > prashant narang > [prashantnarang] > Friday, November 01, 2002 9:11 AM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts > on Ketu... > > > hi all > > till now i was refraining from writing in detail, > b'coz of my laziness. > > nitin rightly quoted the story of amrit -manthan, > which most astrologers qoute 2 understand nodes. but > they miss some vital points. > > 1) rahu drank amrit , after drinking he was more > than satisfied. amrit is something after which u r > not interested in anything else. but the lower > portion ketu remained craving for amrit. i think > thats another reason why rahu and not ketu is > regarded as param parmatansh planet > > 2) since ketu craves for amrit ( which makes u > free from bondages), it is regarded as > mokshakaraka, the node which will produce craving > for immortality, salvation( the soul is immortal,but > one needs to seek the truth), or liberation. > > 3) since it wants , longs or craves , ...the > house in which it is posited it will produce > attachment to significations pertaining to that > particular house.( i know many people wont like the > word attachment being used in context 2 ketu. ) but > plz first check in horoscope, > > ke in > > 1house -ambition > > 2house- attached 2 family > > 3 - attached 2 younger brother( next 2 him) > > 4- attached 2 mother > > .....& so on > > that is why ke in 9 make one seek spirituality & > religion.....and ke in 12 means seeking moksha ( > only if aspected by benefics) > > the degree of bondage will depend on strengh of > house and its lord. if it very strong , u 'll come > out of it , as it is more likely to give positive > results. for ex. ketu in strong 11 house will mke > one run after money , but he will get it if it(the > house) is strong. similaly , one can extend this to > planets also.position of ketu from respective > planets... or if some planet is severely afflicted > with ketu , check its general significations and > lordship. > > this theory was taught 2 me by mohan bhai of > gujarat, i have tried and tested it on almost every > horoscope with cent percent accuracy. > > prashant > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. 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Guest guest Posted November 3, 2002 Report Share Posted November 3, 2002 Hello, I have Ketu in Taurus in 9th house along with Mars. I used to be very religious, but am now mostly agnostic. I'm still searching for the right path! I also don't get along well with my father. Gurpinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2002 Report Share Posted December 1, 2002 Hello I think onw has to judge the influences Ketu is under. That is very important. Saturn Ketu is a atheist, iconoclast. Guru Ketu is a dharmik. Sukr Ketu is a fighter. Mars Ketu is not a fighter but a winner too. Experince makes me say so ###### vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > Hi Prashant, > > I know of at least 2 charts with ketu in 9th. One is an atheist, the other is only nominally interested in religion. Both are very ethical people, though. > > I know a couple with ketu in 11th. They do not really chase after money at all. > > Regards, > > Nimmi > > - > prashant narang > vedic astrology > Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu... > > > hi all > > till now i was refraining from writing in detail, b'coz of my laziness. > > nitin rightly quoted the story of amrit -manthan, which most astrologers qoute 2 understand nodes. but they miss some vital points. > > 1) rahu drank amrit , after drinking he was more than satisfied. amrit is something after which u r not interested in anything else. but the lower portion ketu remained craving for amrit. i think thats another reason why rahu and not ketu is regarded as param parmatansh planet > > 2) since ketu craves for amrit ( which makes u free from bondages), it is regarded as mokshakaraka, the node which will produce craving for immortality, salvation( the soul is immortal,but one needs to seek the truth), or liberation. > > 3) since it wants , longs or craves , ...the house in which it is posited it will produce attachment to significations pertaining to that particular house.( i know many people wont like the word attachment being used in context 2 ketu. ) but plz first check in horoscope, > > ke in > > 1house -ambition > > 2house- attached 2 family > > 3 - attached 2 younger brother( next 2 him) > > 4- attached 2 mother > > .....& so on > > that is why ke in 9 make one seek spirituality & religion.....and ke in 12 means seeking moksha ( only if aspected by benefics) > > the degree of bondage will depend on strengh of house and its lord. if it very strong , u 'll come out of it , as it is more likely to give positive results. for ex. ketu in strong 11 house will mke one run after money , but he will get it if it(the house) is strong. similaly , one can extend this to planets also.position of ketu from respective planets... or if some planet is severely afflicted with ketu , check its general significations and lordship. > > this theory was taught 2 me by mohan bhai of gujarat, i have tried and tested it on almost every horoscope with cent percent accuracy. > > prashant > > astronitin <astronitin> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently > there have been discussions about Ketu. > > As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a > certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by > beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. > > Some key words for Ketu: > > LIBERATION > The Unknown > Darkness > Frustration > Movement > Suddeness > Sting(s) > .. > > Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about - > > ***************************************** > A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit > ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar > to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut > off its head. This led to two parts of one - Ketu being the headless > body. > ************************ ***************** > > Be! cause of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It > is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens > causes frustration. > > Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it > is taking from where it is. > > Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by > the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it > visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, > when moving into Libra ("Tula"). > > Picture the scenario: > It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about > to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front > of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow > is on the car - part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You > cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and > the shape adapts to he surroundings.. similar to water.. Ketu has to > ada pt. > > 1 Interesting c! ombination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the > last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, > just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also > has an effect on it. Or each other. > > A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it > exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated > with this constellation. > > The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has > a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a > final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your > charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How > this this affect you? > > Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that > house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or > unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes > in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The rea der could use > their ima! gination - one could go on. > > Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th > house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel > an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for > a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are > running will also have a bearing on this. > > Regarding children - don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator > for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, > and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / > partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this > posting, or the posting of others - use your own discretion and > experiences as well. > > I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based > on the Vimshottari Dasha System. > > Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused > a mot of movement (across states), and caused sud den unexpected > incident! s. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to > live in harmony. However, the end results have always been > liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. > It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I > am taking remedies to ease the suffering. > > Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of > other reasons - they are there. > > Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu: > > http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.html > > http://.org/lessons/drishti.htm > > > I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There > is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are > simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in > charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would > like to. > > Question s or criticism are always w! elcome. > > Best wishes and warm regards, > Nitin. > > astro2@j... > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 1, 2002 Report Share Posted December 1, 2002 Filmstar Rajinikanth has Saturn-Kethu in virgo in the second house. He is very devoted to Mantralaya Mahan Guru shri Raghavendra. sharperdart <sharperdart > wrote: HelloI think onw has to judge the influences Ketu is under. That is very important. Saturn Ketu is a atheist, iconoclast. Guru Ketu is a dharmik. Sukr Ketu is a fighter. Mars Ketu is not a fighter but a winner too. Experince makes me say so######vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:> Hi Prashant,> > I know of at least 2 charts with ketu in 9th. One is an atheist, the other is only nominally interested in religion. Both are very ethical people, though.> > I know a couple with ketu in 11th. They do not really chase after money at all.> > Regards,> > Nimmi> > ----- Original Message ----- > prashant narang > vedic astrology > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu...> > > hi all > > till now i was refraining from writing in detail, b'coz of my laziness. > > nitin rightly quoted the story of amrit -manthan, which most astrologers qoute 2 understand nodes. but they miss some vital points. > > 1) rahu drank amrit , after drinking he was more than satisfied. amrit is something after which u r not interested in anything else. but the lower portion ketu remained craving for amrit. i think thats another reason why rahu and not ketu is regarded as param parmatansh planet > > 2) since ketu craves for amrit ( which makes u free from bondages), it is regarded as mokshakaraka, the node which will produce craving for immortality, salvation( the soul is immortal,but one needs to seek the truth), or liberation. > > 3) since it wants , longs or craves , ...the house in which it is posited it will produce attachment to significations pertaining to that particular house.( i know many people wont like the word attachment being used in context 2 ketu. ) but plz first check in horoscope, > > ke in > > 1house -ambition > > 2house- attached 2 family > > 3 - attached 2 younger brother( next 2 him) > > 4- attached 2 mother > > .....& so on > > that is why ke in 9 make one seek spirituality & religion.....and ke in 12 means seeking moksha ( only if aspected by benefics) > > the degree of bondage will depend on strengh of house and its lord. if it very strong , u 'll come out of it , as it is more likely to give positive results. for ex. ketu in strong 11 house will mke one run after money , but he will get it if it(the house) is strong. similaly , one can extend this to planets also.position of ketu from respective planets... or if some planet is severely afflicted with ketu , check its general significations and lordship. > > this theory was taught 2 me by mohan bhai of gujarat, i have tried and tested it on almost every horoscope with cent percent accuracy. > > prashant > > astronitin <astronitin> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently > there have been discussions about Ketu. > > As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a > certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by > beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. > > Some key words for Ketu:> > LIBERATION > The Unknown > Darkness > Frustration > Movement > Suddeness > Sting(s)> ..> > Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about - > > *****************************************> A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit > ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar > to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut > off its head. This led to two parts of one - Ketu being the headless > body. > ************************ *****************> > Be! cause of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It > is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens > causes frustration. > > Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it > is taking from where it is.> > Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by > the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it > visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, > when moving into Libra ("Tula"). > > Picture the scenario:> It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about > to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front > of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow > is on the car - part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You > cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and > the shape adapts to he surroundings.. similar to water.. Ketu has to > ada pt. > > 1 Interesting c! ombination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the > last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, > just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also > has an effect on it. Or each other. > > A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it > exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated > with this constellation. > > The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has > a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a > final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your > charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How > this this affect you?> > Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that > house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or > unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes > in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The rea der could use > their ima! gination - one could go on. > > Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th > house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel > an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for > a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are > running will also have a bearing on this. > > Regarding children - don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator > for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, > and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / > partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this > posting, or the posting of others - use your own discretion and > experiences as well. > > I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based > on the Vimshottari Dasha System.> > Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused > a mot of movement (across states), and caused sud den unexpected > incident! s. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to > live in harmony. However, the end results have always been > liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. > It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I > am taking remedies to ease the suffering. > > Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of > other reasons - they are there. > > Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu:> > http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.html> > http://.org/lessons/drishti.htm > > > I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There > is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are > simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in > charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would > like to. > > Question s or criticism are always w! elcome. > > Best wishes and warm regards,> Nitin.> > astro2@j...> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 1, 2002 Report Share Posted December 1, 2002 I have Kethu in the 9th house and the 9th lord Moon very strong in the fifth house pisces. I have Guru-Kethu in the navamsa in the 9th house in leo. Does it mean that i will achieve success in the 9th house significations? Thanks! Prakash sharperdart <sharperdart > wrote: HelloI think onw has to judge the influences Ketu is under. That is very important. Saturn Ketu is a atheist, iconoclast. Guru Ketu is a dharmik. Sukr Ketu is a fighter. Mars Ketu is not a fighter but a winner too. Experince makes me say so######vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:> Hi Prashant,> > I know of at least 2 charts with ketu in 9th. One is an atheist, the other is only nominally interested in religion. Both are very ethical people, though.> > I know a couple with ketu in 11th. They do not really chase after money at all.> > Regards,> > Nimmi> > ----- Original Message ----- > prashant narang > vedic astrology > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu...> > > hi all > > till now i was refraining from writing in detail, b'coz of my laziness. > > nitin rightly quoted the story of amrit -manthan, which most astrologers qoute 2 understand nodes. but they miss some vital points. > > 1) rahu drank amrit , after drinking he was more than satisfied. amrit is something after which u r not interested in anything else. but the lower portion ketu remained craving for amrit. i think thats another reason why rahu and not ketu is regarded as param parmatansh planet > > 2) since ketu craves for amrit ( which makes u free from bondages), it is regarded as mokshakaraka, the node which will produce craving for immortality, salvation( the soul is immortal,but one needs to seek the truth), or liberation. > > 3) since it wants , longs or craves , ...the house in which it is posited it will produce attachment to significations pertaining to that particular house.( i know many people wont like the word attachment being used in context 2 ketu. ) but plz first check in horoscope, > > ke in > > 1house -ambition > > 2house- attached 2 family > > 3 - attached 2 younger brother( next 2 him) > > 4- attached 2 mother > > .....& so on > > that is why ke in 9 make one seek spirituality & religion.....and ke in 12 means seeking moksha ( only if aspected by benefics) > > the degree of bondage will depend on strengh of house and its lord. if it very strong , u 'll come out of it , as it is more likely to give positive results. for ex. ketu in strong 11 house will mke one run after money , but he will get it if it(the house) is strong. similaly , one can extend this to planets also.position of ketu from respective planets... or if some planet is severely afflicted with ketu , check its general significations and lordship. > > this theory was taught 2 me by mohan bhai of gujarat, i have tried and tested it on almost every horoscope with cent percent accuracy. > > prashant > > astronitin <astronitin> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently > there have been discussions about Ketu. > > As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a > certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by > beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. > > Some key words for Ketu:> > LIBERATION > The Unknown > Darkness > Frustration > Movement > Suddeness > Sting(s)> ..> > Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about - > > *****************************************> A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit > ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar > to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut > off its head. This led to two parts of one - Ketu being the headless > body. > ************************ *****************> > Be! cause of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It > is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens > causes frustration. > > Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it > is taking from where it is.> > Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by > the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it > visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, > when moving into Libra ("Tula"). > > Picture the scenario:> It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about > to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front > of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow > is on the car - part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You > cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and > the shape adapts to he surroundings.. similar to water.. Ketu has to > ada pt. > > 1 Interesting c! ombination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the > last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, > just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also > has an effect on it. Or each other. > > A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it > exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated > with this constellation. > > The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has > a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a > final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your > charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How > this this affect you?> > Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that > house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or > unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes > in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The rea der could use > their ima! gination - one could go on. > > Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th > house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel > an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for > a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are > running will also have a bearing on this. > > Regarding children - don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator > for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, > and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / > partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this > posting, or the posting of others - use your own discretion and > experiences as well. > > I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based > on the Vimshottari Dasha System.> > Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused > a mot of movement (across states), and caused sud den unexpected > incident! s. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to > live in harmony. However, the end results have always been > liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. > It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I > am taking remedies to ease the suffering. > > Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of > other reasons - they are there. > > Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu:> > http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.html> > http://.org/lessons/drishti.htm > > > I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There > is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are > simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in > charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would > like to. > > Question s or criticism are always w! elcome. > > Best wishes and warm regards,> Nitin.> > astro2@j...> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 1, 2002 Report Share Posted December 1, 2002 i also have an example of sat - ke , ....person is very spiritual & is a deep thinker. about ve - ke i have seen person initialy runs after women , later may become a celibate. a few days before when mars- venus was discussed , this point had come out that ma-ve conjunction may give hard core celibacy depending upon the functional nature & strength which is a matter of research but there r some live examples of this fact & those cannot be ignored. prashant sharperdart <sharperdart > wrote: HelloI think onw has to judge the influences Ketu is under. That is very important. Saturn Ketu is a atheist, iconoclast. Guru Ketu is a dharmik. Sukr Ketu is a fighter. Mars Ketu is not a fighter but a winner too. Experince makes me say so######vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:> Hi Prashant,> > I know of at least 2 charts with ketu in 9th. One is an atheist, the other is only nominally interested in religion. Both are very ethical people, though.> > I know a couple with ketu in 11th. They do not really chase after money at all.> > Regards,> > Nimmi> > ----- Original Message ----- > prashant narang > vedic astrology > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu...> > > hi all > > till now i was refraining from writing in detail, b'coz of my laziness. > > nitin rightly quoted the story of amrit -manthan, which most astrologers qoute 2 understand nodes. but they miss some vital points. > > 1) rahu drank amrit , after drinking he was more than satisfied. amrit is something after which u r not interested in anything else. but the lower portion ketu remained craving for amrit. i think thats another reason why rahu and not ketu is regarded as param parmatansh planet > > 2) since ketu craves for amrit ( which makes u free from bondages), it is regarded as mokshakaraka, the node which will produce craving for immortality, salvation( the soul is immortal,but one needs to seek the truth), or liberation. > > 3) since it wants , longs or craves , ...the house in which it is posited it will produce attachment to significations pertaining to that particular house.( i know many people wont like the word attachment being used in context 2 ketu. ) but plz first check in horoscope, > > ke in > > 1house -ambition > > 2house- attached 2 family > > 3 - attached 2 younger brother( next 2 him) > > 4- attached 2 mother > > .....& so on > > that is why ke in 9 make one seek spirituality & religion.....and ke in 12 means seeking moksha ( only if aspected by benefics) > > the degree of bondage will depend on strengh of house and its lord. if it very strong , u 'll come out of it , as it is more likely to give positive results. for ex. ketu in strong 11 house will mke one run after money , but he will get it if it(the house) is strong. similaly , one can extend this to planets also.position of ketu from respective planets... or if some planet is severely afflicted with ketu , check its general significations and lordship. > > this theory was taught 2 me by mohan bhai of gujarat, i have tried and tested it on almost every horoscope with cent percent accuracy. > > prashant > > astronitin <astronitin> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently > there have been discussions about Ketu. > > As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a > certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by > beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. > > Some key words for Ketu:> > LIBERATION > The Unknown > Darkness > Frustration > Movement > Suddeness > Sting(s)> ..> > Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about - > > *****************************************> A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit > ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar > to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut > off its head. This led to two parts of one - Ketu being the headless > body. > ************************ *****************> > Be! cause of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It > is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens > causes frustration. > > Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it > is taking from where it is.> > Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by > the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it > visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, > when moving into Libra ("Tula"). > > Picture the scenario:> It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about > to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front > of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow > is on the car - part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You > cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and > the shape adapts to he surroundings.. similar to water.. Ketu has to > ada pt. > > 1 Interesting c! ombination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the > last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, > just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also > has an effect on it. Or each other. > > A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it > exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated > with this constellation. > > The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has > a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a > final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your > charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How > this this affect you?> > Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that > house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or > unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes > in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The rea der could use > their ima! gination - one could go on. > > Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th > house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel > an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for > a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are > running will also have a bearing on this. > > Regarding children - don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator > for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, > and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / > partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this > posting, or the posting of others - use your own discretion and > experiences as well. > > I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based > on the Vimshottari Dasha System.> > Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused > a mot of movement (across states), and caused sud den unexpected > incident! s. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to > live in harmony. However, the end results have always been > liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. > It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I > am taking remedies to ease the suffering. > > Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of > other reasons - they are there. > > Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu:> > http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.html> > http://.org/lessons/drishti.htm > > > I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There > is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are > simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in > charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would > like to. > > Question s or criticism are always w! elcome. > > Best wishes and warm regards,> Nitin.> > astro2@j...> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 1, 2002 Report Share Posted December 1, 2002 What do you think about Mars-Venus in Gemini aspected by Jupiter from Saggitarius...for a scorpio ascendent. Please let me know your thoughts. prashant narang <prashantnarang > wrote: hi i also have an example of sat - ke , ....person is very spiritual & is a deep thinker. about ve - ke i have seen person initialy runs after women , later may become a celibate. a few days before when mars- venus was discussed , this point had come out that ma-ve conjunction may give hard core celibacy depending upon the functional nature & strength which is a matter of research but there r some live examples of this fact & those cannot be ignored. prashant sharperdart <sharperdart > wrote: HelloI think onw has to judge the influences Ketu is under. That is very important. Saturn Ketu is a atheist, iconoclast. Guru Ketu is a dharmik. Sukr Ketu is a fighter. Mars Ketu is not a fighter but a winner too. Experince makes me say so######--- In vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote:> Hi Prashant,> > I know of at least 2 charts with ketu in 9th. One is an atheist, the other is only nominally interested in religion. Both are very ethical people, though.> > I know a couple with ketu in 11th. They do not really chase after money at all.> > Regards,> > Nimmi> > - > prashant narang > vedic astrology > Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu...> > > hi all > > till now i was refraining from writing in detail, b'coz of my laziness. > > nitin rightly quoted the story of amrit -manthan, which most astrologers qoute 2 understand nodes. but they miss some vital points. > > 1) rahu drank amrit , after drinking he was more than satisfied. amrit is something after which u r not interested in anything else. but the lower portion ketu remained craving for amrit. i think thats another reason why rahu and not ketu is regarded as param parmatansh planet > > 2) since ketu craves for amrit ( which makes u free from bondages), it is regarded as mokshakaraka, the node which will produce craving for immortality, salvation( the soul is immortal,but one needs to seek the truth), or liberation. > > 3) since it wants , longs or craves , ...the house in which it is posited it will produce attachment to significations pertaining to that particular house.( i know many people wont like the word attachment being used in context 2 ketu. ) but plz first check in horoscope, > > ke in > > 1house -ambition > > 2house- attached 2 family > > 3 - attached 2 younger brother( next 2 him) > > 4- attached 2 mother > > .....& so on > > that is why ke in 9 make one seek spirituality & religion.....and ke in 12 means seeking moksha ( only if aspected by benefics) > > the degree of bondage will depend on strengh of house and its lord. if it very strong , u 'll come out of it , as it is more likely to give positive results. for ex. ketu in strong 11 house will mke one run after money , but he will get it if it(the house) is strong. similaly , one can extend this to planets also.position of ketu from respective planets... or if some planet is severely afflicted with ketu , check its general significations and lordship. > > this theory was taught 2 me by mohan bhai of gujarat, i have tried and tested it on almost every horoscope with cent percent accuracy. > > prashant > > astronitin <astronitin> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but recently > there have been discussions about Ketu. > > As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see how a > certain placement of planets affects the native. The following are by > beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. > > Some key words for Ketu:> > LIBERATION > The Unknown > Darkness > Frustration > Movement > Suddeness > Sting(s)> ..> > Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about - > > *****************************************> A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality ("amrit > ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the nectar > to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, cut > off its head. This led to two parts of one - Ketu being the headless > body. > ************************ *****************> > Be! cause of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking direction. It > is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It oftens > causes frustration. > > Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for itself, it > is taking from where it is.> > Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon outcaste by > the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house it > visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next year, > when moving into Libra ("Tula"). > > Picture the scenario:> It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, about > to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in front > of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your shadow > is on the car - part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. You > cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, and > the shape adapts to he surroundings.. similar to water.. Ketu has to > ada pt. > > 1 Interesting c! ombination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. Examine the > last time these planets were together, and see what happened. So, > just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu also > has an effect on it. Or each other. > > A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider it > exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually associated > with this constellation. > > The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. This has > a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes a > final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your > charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual 18months. How > this this affect you?> > Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations to that > house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, or > unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several changes > in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The rea der could use > their ima! gination - one could go on. > > Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to 5th > house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man may feel > an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a child, for > a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are > running will also have a bearing on this. > > Regarding children - don't forget Jupiter, the natural significator > for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget Argalas, > and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your spouse's / > partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on this > posting, or the posting of others - use your own discretion and > experiences as well. > > I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha based > on the Vimshottari Dasha System.> > Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, caused > a mot of movement (across states), and caused sud den unexpected > incident! s. I have been passive, and have submitted to the stars, to > live in harmony. However, the end results have always been > liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself blessed. > It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same time, I > am taking remedies to ease the suffering. > > Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think of > other reasons - they are there. > > Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu:> > http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.html> > http://.org/lessons/drishti.htm > > > I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. There > is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, are > simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in > charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I would > like to. > > Question s or criticism are always w! elcome. > > Best wishes and warm regards,> Nitin.> > astro2@j...> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 1, 2002 Report Share Posted December 1, 2002 hello what about ketu mercury combination vedic astrology, "sharperdart" <sharperdart> wrote: > Hello > > I think onw has to judge the influences Ketu is under. That is very > important. Saturn Ketu is a atheist, iconoclast. Guru Ketu is a > dharmik. Sukr Ketu is a fighter. Mars Ketu is not a fighter but a > winner too. Experince makes me say so > > ###### > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> wrote: > > Hi Prashant, > > > > I know of at least 2 charts with ketu in 9th. One is an atheist, > the other is only nominally interested in religion. Both are very > ethical people, though. > > > > I know a couple with ketu in 11th. They do not really chase after > money at all. > > > > Regards, > > > > Nimmi > > > > - > > prashant narang > > vedic astrology > > Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 AM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu... > > > > > > hi all > > > > till now i was refraining from writing in detail, b'coz of my > laziness. > > > > nitin rightly quoted the story of amrit -manthan, which most > astrologers qoute 2 understand nodes. but they miss some vital > points. > > > > 1) rahu drank amrit , after drinking he was more than > satisfied. amrit is something after which u r not interested in > anything else. but the lower portion ketu remained craving for > amrit. i think thats another reason why rahu and not ketu is > regarded as param parmatansh planet > > > > 2) since ketu craves for amrit ( which makes u free from > bondages), it is regarded as mokshakaraka, the node which will > produce craving for immortality, salvation( the soul is immortal,but > one needs to seek the truth), or liberation. > > > > 3) since it wants , longs or craves , ...the house in which it > is posited it will produce attachment to significations pertaining to > that particular house.( i know many people wont like the word > attachment being used in context 2 ketu. ) but plz first check in > horoscope, > > > > ke in > > > > 1house -ambition > > > > 2house- attached 2 family > > > > 3 - attached 2 younger brother( next 2 him) > > > > 4- attached 2 mother > > > > .....& so on > > > > that is why ke in 9 make one seek spirituality & > religion.....and ke in 12 means seeking moksha ( only if aspected by > benefics) > > > > the degree of bondage will depend on strengh of house and its > lord. if it very strong , u 'll come out of it , as it is more > likely to give positive results. for ex. ketu in strong 11 house > will mke one run after money , but he will get it if it(the house) > is strong. similaly , one can extend this to planets also.position of > ketu from respective planets... or if some planet is severely > afflicted with ketu , check its general significations and > lordship. > > > > this theory was taught 2 me by mohan bhai of gujarat, i have > tried and tested it on almost every horoscope with cent percent > accuracy. > > > > prashant > > > > astronitin <astronitin> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but > recently > > there have been discussions about Ketu. > > > > As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see > how a > > certain placement of planets affects the native. The following > are by > > beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. > > > > Some key words for Ketu: > > > > LIBERATION > > The Unknown > > Darkness > > Frustration > > Movement > > Suddeness > > Sting(s) > > .. > > > > Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about - > > > > ***************************************** > > A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality > ("amrit > > ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the > nectar > > to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu Trinity, > cut > > off its head. This led to two parts of one - Ketu being the > headless > > body. > > ************************ ***************** > > > > Be! cause of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking > direction. It > > is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It > oftens > > causes frustration. > > > > Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for > itself, it > > is taking from where it is. > > > > Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon > outcaste by > > the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the house > it > > visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus next > year, > > when moving into Libra ("Tula"). > > > > Picture the scenario: > > It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic intersection, > about > > to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is in > front > > of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your > shadow > > is on the car - part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. > You > > cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the hedges, > and > > the shape adapts to he surroundings.. similar to water.. Ketu > has to > > ada pt. > > > > 1 Interesting c! ombination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. > Examine the > > last time these planets were together, and see what happened. > So, > > just as other planets influence each other, a planet with Ketu > also > > has an effect on it. Or each other. > > > > A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider > it > > exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually > associated > > with this constellation. > > > > The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. > This has > > a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually causes > a > > final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in your > > charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual > 18months. How > > this this affect you? > > > > Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations > to that > > house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in relationships, > or > > unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several > changes > > in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The rea der > could use > > their ima! gination - one could go on. > > > > Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related to > 5th > > house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man > may feel > > an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a > child, for > > a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you are > > running will also have a bearing on this. > > > > Regarding children - don't forget Jupiter, the natural > significator > > for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget > Argalas, > > and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your > spouse's / > > partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely on > this > > posting, or the posting of others - use your own discretion and > > experiences as well. > > > > I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha > based > > on the Vimshottari Dasha System. > > > > Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under illusions, > caused > > a mot of movement (across states), and caused sud den > unexpected > > incident! s. I have been passive, and have submitted to the > stars, to > > live in harmony. However, the end results have always been > > liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself > blessed. > > It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same > time, I > > am taking remedies to ease the suffering. > > > > Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think > of > > other reasons - they are there. > > > > Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu: > > > > http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.html > > > > http://.org/lessons/drishti.htm > > > > > > I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of Ketu. > There > > is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, > are > > simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see in > > charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as I > would > > like to. > > > > Question s or criticism are always w! elcome. > > > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > Nitin. > > > > astro2@j... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 vedic astrology, "ajoypb" <ajoypb> wrote: > hello > what about ketu mercury combination > > > vedic astrology, "sharperdart" <sharperdart> wrote: > > Hello > > > > I think onw has to judge the influences Ketu is under. That is very > > important. Saturn Ketu is a atheist, iconoclast. Guru Ketu is a > > dharmik. Sukr Ketu is a fighter. Mars Ketu is not a fighter but a > > winner too. Experince makes me say so > > > > ###### > > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> > wrote: > > > Hi Prashant, > > > > > > I know of at least 2 charts with ketu in 9th. One is an atheist, > > the other is only nominally interested in religion. Both are very > > ethical people, though. > > > > > > I know a couple with ketu in 11th. They do not really chase after > > money at all. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Nimmi > > > > > > - > > > prashant narang > > > vedic astrology > > > Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 AM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu... > > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > till now i was refraining from writing in detail, b'coz of my > > laziness. > > > > > > nitin rightly quoted the story of amrit -manthan, which most > > astrologers qoute 2 understand nodes. but they miss some vital > > points. > > > > > > 1) rahu drank amrit , after drinking he was more than > > satisfied. amrit is something after which u r not interested in > > anything else. but the lower portion ketu remained craving for > > amrit. i think thats another reason why rahu and not ketu is > > regarded as param parmatansh planet > > > > > > 2) since ketu craves for amrit ( which makes u free from > > bondages), it is regarded as mokshakaraka, the node which will > > produce craving for immortality, salvation( the soul is > immortal,but > > one needs to seek the truth), or liberation. > > > > > > 3) since it wants , longs or craves , ...the house in which > it > > is posited it will produce attachment to significations pertaining > to > > that particular house.( i know many people wont like the word > > attachment being used in context 2 ketu. ) but plz first check > in > > horoscope, > > > > > > ke in > > > > > > 1house -ambition > > > > > > 2house- attached 2 family > > > > > > 3 - attached 2 younger brother( next 2 him) > > > > > > 4- attached 2 mother > > > > > > .....& so on > > > > > > that is why ke in 9 make one seek spirituality & > > religion.....and ke in 12 means seeking moksha ( only if aspected > by > > benefics) > > > > > > the degree of bondage will depend on strengh of house and its > > lord. if it very strong , u 'll come out of it , as it is more > > likely to give positive results. for ex. ketu in strong 11 house > > will mke one run after money , but he will get it if it(the house) > > is strong. similaly , one can extend this to planets also.position > of > > ketu from respective planets... or if some planet is severely > > afflicted with ketu , check its general significations and > > lordship. > > > > > > this theory was taught 2 me by mohan bhai of gujarat, i have > > tried and tested it on almost every horoscope with cent percent > > accuracy. > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > astronitin <astronitin> wrote: > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but > > recently > > > there have been discussions about Ketu. > > > > > > As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see > > how a > > > certain placement of planets affects the native. The > following > > are by > > > beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. > > > > > > Some key words for Ketu: > > > > > > LIBERATION > > > The Unknown > > > Darkness > > > Frustration > > > Movement > > > Suddeness > > > Sting(s) > > > .. > > > > > > Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about - > > > > > > ***************************************** > > > A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality > > ("amrit > > > ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the > > nectar > > > to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu > Trinity, > > cut > > > off its head. This led to two parts of one - Ketu being the > > headless > > > body. > > > ************************ ***************** > > > > > > Be! cause of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking > > direction. It > > > is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It > > oftens > > > causes frustration. > > > > > > Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for > > itself, it > > > is taking from where it is. > > > > > > Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon > > outcaste by > > > the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the > house > > it > > > visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus > next > > year, > > > when moving into Libra ("Tula"). > > > > > > Picture the scenario: > > > It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic > intersection, > > about > > > to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is > in > > front > > > of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your > > shadow > > > is on the car - part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. > > You > > > cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the > hedges, > > and > > > the shape adapts to he surroundings.. similar to water.. Ketu > > has to > > > ada pt. > > > > > > 1 Interesting c! ombination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. > > Examine the > > > last time these planets were together, and see what happened. > > So, > > > just as other planets influence each other, a planet with > Ketu > > also > > > has an effect on it. Or each other. > > > > > > A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider > > it > > > exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually > > associated > > > with this constellation. > > > > > > The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. > > This has > > > a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually > causes > > a > > > final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in > your > > > charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual > > 18months. How > > > this this affect you? > > > > > > Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations > > to that > > > house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in > relationships, > > or > > > unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several > > changes > > > in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The rea der > > could use > > > their ima! gination - one could go on. > > > > > > Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related > to > > 5th > > > house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man > > may feel > > > an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a > > child, for > > > a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you > are > > > running will also have a bearing on this. > > > > > > Regarding children - don't forget Jupiter, the natural > > significator > > > for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget > > Argalas, > > > and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your > > spouse's / > > > partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely > on > > this > > > posting, or the posting of others - use your own discretion > and > > > experiences as well. > > > > > > I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha > > based > > > on the Vimshottari Dasha System. > > > > > > Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under > illusions, > > caused > > > a mot of movement (across states), and caused sud den > > unexpected > > > incident! s. I have been passive, and have submitted to the > > stars, to > > > live in harmony. However, the end results have always been > > > liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself > > blessed. > > > It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same > > time, I > > > am taking remedies to ease the suffering. > > > > > > Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think > > of > > > other reasons - they are there. > > > > > > Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu: > > > > > > http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.html > > > > > > http://.org/lessons/drishti.htm > > > > > > > > > I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of > Ketu. > > There > > > is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, > > are > > > simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see > in > > > charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as > I > > would > > > like to. > > > > > > Question s or criticism are always w! elcome. > > > > > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > > Nitin. > > > > > > astro2@j... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- @e... > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- -- > -- > > ---------- > > > > > > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. Jaya Jagannatha ! Kethu in Makara, Kumba lagna is good. In the other ascendants, this may lead for Bava Karma/sinful act( in sex too ). Kethu in the ascendant: unconventional figure/habits. Kethu+sat in the invisible half : may be a phony devotee. Rajani Kanth : visits Himalayas, back in Chennai meets the Income Tax Commissioner. sarasalai_siva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 sarasalai_siva <sivatheva (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote: vedic astrology, "ajoypb" <ajoypb> wrote:> hello> what about ketu mercury combination> > > vedic astrology, "sharperdart" <sharperdart> wrote:> > Hello> > > > I think onw has to judge the influences Ketu is under. That is very > > important. Saturn Ketu is a atheist, iconoclast. Guru Ketu is a > > dharmik. Sukr Ketu is a fighter. Mars Ketu is not a fighter but a > > winner too. Experince makes me say so> > > > ######> > > > vedic astrology, "Nimmi Ragavan" <106350.3660@c...> > wrote:> > > Hi Prashant,> > > > > > I know of at least 2 charts with ketu in 9th. One is an atheist, > > the other is only nominally interested in religion. Both are very > > ethical people, though.> > > > > > I know a couple with ketu in 11th. They do not really chase after > > money at all.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Nimmi> > > > > > - > > > prashant narang > > > vedic astrology > > > Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 AM> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Some more thoughts on Ketu...> > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > till now i was refraining from writing in detail, b'coz of my > > laziness. > > > > > > nitin rightly quoted the story of amrit -manthan, which most > > astrologers qoute 2 understand nodes. but they miss some vital > > points. > > > > > > 1) rahu drank amrit , after drinking he was more than > > satisfied. amrit is something after which u r not interested in > > anything else. but the lower portion ketu remained craving for > > amrit. i think thats another reason why rahu and not ketu is > > regarded as param parmatansh planet > > > > > > 2) since ketu craves for amrit ( which makes u free from > > bondages), it is regarded as mokshakaraka, the node which will > > produce craving for immortality, salvation( the soul is > immortal,but > > one needs to seek the truth), or liberation. > > > > > > 3) since it wants , longs or craves , ...the house in which > it > > is posited it will produce attachment to significations pertaining > to > > that particular house.( i know many people wont like the word > > attachment being used in context 2 ketu. ) but plz first check > in > > horoscope, > > > > > > ke in > > > > > > 1house -ambition > > > > > > 2house- attached 2 family > > > > > > 3 - attached 2 younger brother( next 2 him) > > > > > > 4- attached 2 mother > > > > > > .....& so on > > > > > > that is why ke in 9 make one seek spirituality & > > religion.....and ke in 12 means seeking moksha ( only if aspected > by > > benefics) > > > > > > the degree of bondage will depend on strengh of house and its > > lord. if it very strong , u 'll come out of it , as it is more > > likely to give positive results. for ex. ketu in strong 11 house > > will mke one run after money , but he will get it if it(the house) > > is strong. similaly , one can extend this to planets also.position > of > > ketu from respective planets... or if some planet is severely > > afflicted with ketu , check its general significations and > > lordship. > > > > > > this theory was taught 2 me by mohan bhai of gujarat, i have > > tried and tested it on almost every horoscope with cent percent > > accuracy. > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > astronitin <astronitin> wrote: > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > I have usually shied away from posting to the list, but > > recently > > > there have been discussions about Ketu. > > > > > > As in any chart, various factors have to be considered to see > > how a > > > certain placement of planets affects the native. The > following > > are by > > > beliefs / experiences with regard to Ketu. > > > > > > Some key words for Ketu:> > > > > > LIBERATION > > > The Unknown > > > Darkness > > > Frustration > > > Movement > > > Suddeness > > > Sting(s)> > > ..> > > > > > Let us not forget how Rahu and Ketu came about - > > > > > > *****************************************> > > A Demon. Disguised, wanting to drink ambrosia for immortality > > ("amrit > > > ras") was recognized by the Moon. Just when the Demon put the > > nectar > > > to its lips, Lord Vishnu, the Preserver, in the Hindu > Trinity, > > cut > > > off its head. This led to two parts of one - Ketu being the > > headless > > > body. > > > ************************ *****************> > > > > > Be! cause of its headless nature, Ketu is always seeking > > direction. It > > > is looking for liberation. This causes a lot of movement. It > > oftens > > > causes frustration. > > > > > > Ketu causes a void, or an absence. In trying to gain for > > itself, it > > > is taking from where it is.> > > > > > Ketu, being a shadowy planet ("Chaya Graha") was a demon > > outcaste by > > > the Gods. Ketu has no form, and thus has to adapt to the > house > > it > > > visits. Consider Ketu acting like Mars now, and like Venus > next > > year, > > > when moving into Libra ("Tula"). > > > > > > Picture the scenario:> > > It is a warm sunny day, and you are at a traffic > intersection, > > about > > > to cross the road. The Sun is behind you, and your shadow is > in > > front > > > of you. It takes the shape of the road. A car stops now. Your > > shadow > > > is on the car - part on the ground, and part on the vehicle. > > You > > > cross the road and enter a garden. Your shadow hits the > hedges, > > and > > > the shape adapts to he surroundings.. similar to water.. Ketu > > has to > > > ada pt. > > > > > > 1 Interesting c! ombination = Mars + Ketu = Fire + Smoke. > > Examine the > > > last time these planets were together, and see what happened. > > So, > > > just as other planets influence each other, a planet with > Ketu > > also > > > has an effect on it. Or each other. > > > > > > A shadow is comfortable in the darkness. Hence, many consider > > it > > > exalted in Scorpio (Vrischik), now. Darkness is usually > > associated > > > with this constellation. > > > > > > The Dragon (Demon) Ketu, has a tail at the end of the body. > > This has > > > a sting. So, as Ketu leaves a certain house, it usually > causes > > a > > > final setback, or sting related to the house. Look back in > your > > > charts to see the time Ketu was moving after its usual > > 18months. How > > > this this affect you?> > > > > > Ketu in a House will cause "Ketu-related" events / sensations > > to that > > > house. Ketu in 7th, may lead to an emptiness in > relationships, > > or > > > unfulfilling partnerships. Ketu in 10th may lead to several > > changes > > > in career or the pathways one chooses in life. The rea der > > could use > > > their ima! gination - one could go on. > > > > > > Ketu in 5th will give a void or feeling of emptiness related > to > > 5th > > > house matters. A child may feel creativity lost. A young man > > may feel > > > an emptiness in romance. There could be detachment from a > > child, for > > > a parent. What stage of life you're in, and what Dashs you > are > > > running will also have a bearing on this. > > > > > > Regarding children - don't forget Jupiter, the natural > > significator > > > for progeny. Don't forget the ruler of the 5th. Don't forget > > Argalas, > > > and don't forget divisional charts. Don't forget your > > spouse's / > > > partner's chart, for it takes 2 to create 1. Don't go solely > on > > this > > > posting, or the posting of others - use your own discretion > and > > > experiences as well. > > > > > > I not only have Ketu in the 5th, but am running my Ketu Dasha > > based > > > on the Vimshottari Dasha System.> > > > > > Ketu has caused a lot of frustration, left me under > illusions, > > caused > > > a mot of movement (across states), and caused sud den > > unexpected > > > incident! s. I have been passive, and have submitted to the > > stars, to > > > live in harmony. However, the end results have always been > > > liberating, an "eye-opener" of sorts, and I consider myself > > blessed. > > > It is all temporary. A certain phase, of sorts. At the same > > time, I > > > am taking remedies to ease the suffering. > > > > > > Light defeats darkness. Jupiter will work against Ketu. Think > > of > > > other reasons - they are there. > > > > > > Some more articles on Rahu/Ketu:> > > > > > http://www.goravani.com/lessons/Ketu.html> > > > > > http://.org/lessons/drishti.htm > > > > > > > > > I hope some of this helps give a better understanding of > Ketu. > > There > > > is a lot for me to learn, and some of the concepts mentioned, > > are > > > simply an awareness, and not something I have been able see > in > > > charts, as I have not been able to go into charts as much as > I > > would > > > like to. > > > > > > Question s or criticism are always w! elcome. > > > > > > Best wishes and warm regards,> > > Nitin.> > > > > > astro2@j...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic-> > astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> > ----------> > > > > > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e...> > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > > Service. Jaya Jagannatha !Kethu in Makara, Kumba lagna is good. In the other ascendants, this may lead for Bava Karma/sinful act( in sex too ).Kethu in the ascendant: unconventional figure/habits.Kethu+sat in the invisible half : may be a phony devotee.Rajani Kanth : visits Himalayas, back in Chennai meets the Income Tax Commissioner.sarasalai_sivaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do you ? Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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