Guest guest Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 All, Since the discussion has centered around Sade Sati and Saturn, and since someone else has asked me how I go about dealing with such things, I thought to address these concerns in this email and knock out two birds with one stone. I thank Dasji for his comments on Saturn and how to deal with it. Saturn, as it has been pointed out, likes labor - work. Therefore, whenever a person is undergoing a Saturn period in their life, it is time to put their nose to the grindstone. Also, Dasji pointed out that Saturn times call for getting rid of old stuff that has outlived its usefullness. He hit the nail right on the head with that! That is what I suggest to all of my clients, and this is what I try to do myself. Get rid of all old things - broke down things, too. Anything that is old, run down, etc. get rid of it. Free up the space in your home. Clean out all of the closets, giveaway old clothes, and so on. This is the fundamental idea behind Feng Shui, to make your living space more amenable to positive energy around you. Saturn represents loss, separation in one way or another from something else. Saturn also represents Time itself, and in time, we become separated from what has occurred in the past. Instead of lamenting pain and strife, difficult times as shown in the horoscope, are actually times to rejoice - they are times that give us a grand oppotunity to do things in a new way, to come up with a new plan, to envision a newer, fresher perspective. Saturn times give us the chance to "clear the decks" and prepare for the times to come. Sade Sati times, especially when it comes to the Moon, are EXCELLENT times to lose those unwanted pounds. A great time to get into a excercise program, kick that smoking habit, etc. Get rid of those limiting habits that hold you back - and goes for people, too. This is why so often, Sade Sati often corresponds to a relationship breaking up, because it has outlived it usefulness. As both a Western Astrologer that has embraced the profound wisdom of the Vedas and in particular, its AStrological framework, I try to bring new ideas to that process. Therefore, when it comes to solving problems indicated in the Vedic chart, I try to apply commonsensical solutions that someone here in the West can use and see some measurable results within a reasonable period of time. So, I tend to stay away from prescribing gems and the like; even in the more ancient books on the subject, and among the more classical Vedic Astrologers today, they will tell you, that gemology is a "rich man's game". James Braha has written at length about the fact that for it to really work in the way that you want, you have to have a stone of the proper weight, size and purity. That is NOT an inexpensive thing, let me tell you. And, if you're having trouble just putting together the money to see an Astrologer in the first place (which several people in this and other forums have said to me in private emails) - a very inexpensive therapedic model, to be sure - then you will surely have trouble putting together the money to buy a pure and large stone to alleviate your problems. I'm not against anyone going that route, hey, if you have the money, God Bless Ya, do your thing. I just think it is more practical to pursue more reachable methods of remediation. Often, I have found that good, sound counseling techniques, allied with commonsense and a knowledge of Life itself, does the trick for most. Of course, there are times when people need a bit more than that, and it is here where the Astrologer, regardless of the system they use, should be aware of their limitations. I am quick to refer someone to expert legal or medical counsel, for example, should the need arise for it. I think the practice of giving referrals is something that we Astrologers should get better at. But there are times when I have seen some of the more arcane, traditional methods of the ancient Vedic Astrological world work. Once, I had a young couple come to see me. They were both under the age of 30, with two small children. The husband was out of work, and this was creating problems in the home, the issue of money was beginning to really put a strain on the marriage. The wife was a Scorpio and the husband was an Aries - and not only an Aries, but an Aries with a VERY strong Mars in his chart. One of the reasons why he was out of work was because of his uncontrollable anger. Clearly, putting this together with the commonly held misconceptions about Black males, and you could see why he was having a hard time finding and then keeping work to raise his family. The husband walked into my home, wearing a red cap, red sneakers, carrying a red duffle bag, and wearing a plaid shirt that red streaks in it! Whew. Within the first 5 minutes of the consultation, I turned to the wife and told her, to get rid of EVERYTHING red in the house, and that included her husband's wardrobe - all red cups, lamps, dishes, bowls, red pepper, ketchup, hot sauce, you name it. Plus, I told her to stop frying food and instead broil it, and that her husband had to stop eating red meat, etc. They both looked at me like I was crazy, but I held my ground, and asked them to just try it for a month. Well, as it turned out, the wife called me about 2 months later, and I could hear in her voice that things had dramatically improved - her husband was now as calm as a lamb, they had no more heated arguements, and he had found a very good job. There was harmony in the home. So, I guess what I'm saying is, that I think we as Astrologers have to be aware of so much more out here in this world than just the planetary symbols with which we are so familiar. We have to be aware of Life itself, to be aware of when we are out of our league and refer the client to someone else, and when to use commonsense. That's how I do it. Salaam, Mu'Min Suggested Further Reading: The Creative Astrologer, Noel Tyl Autobiography of a Vedic Astrologer, B.V. Raman ===== Mu'Min M. Bey Western and Vedic Astrologer mumin_bey AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu ===== Mu'Min M. Bey Western and Vedic Astrologer mumin_bey AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu 2Way Pager: 1-877-345-6499/8773456499; Cell phone: 267-978-2812 Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- Mail Plus – Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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