Modernity in Vedic Astrology-to Rageshwari

November 21, 2002

Hi Rageshwari,

As it says in my quote, I mentioned that those

insights were gleaned over a thousand years ago; I am

very familiar with the long and storied history of

Vedic Astrology. I am both in awe of it and I hold it

high esteem - yet, I maintain what I have said all

along, that Vedic Astrology, if it is to be meaningful

in today's modern world, has to keep in step with the

times, in terms of its interpretation, etc.

In your post below, you mention the use of Naksatras.

Please allow me to ask you, since you bring it up;

let's say you have a horoscope wherein which you see

that the rising Naksatra is in Purva Ashadha; the Moon

is in the star of Bharani, and the Sun is in Jyestha.

What is your humanistic analysis of these Naksatra

positions?

Example is far better than precept; I await your

response.

Salaam,

Mu

--- shamiyana <shamiyana wrote:

> > it does none of us any good to cling to the

> > insights that were gleaned over 1,000 years ago.

>

> I think you should check your numbers properly.

> Vedic astrology is a

> science that goes far beyond just 1000 years. I know

> that Lord

> Sriram's horoscopes are based upon ancient texts

> that describe the

> exact positioning of nakshatras. And Lord Sriram

> existed almost 5000

> years back. So!!! IMO, Vedic Astrology has evolved

> over a period of

> 5000 years atleast, and most probably even more than

> that.

>

> Rageshwari.

>

=====

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November 22, 2002

Hi Mu'Min,

I am sorry for misinterpreting your previous post, since I obviously

missed the key word "glean". Anyways, about the nakshatra part, I

have no clue on how to analyze the said positions of nakshatras. My

original point was that nakshatra positions were mentioned in these

ancient texts which means that at the time of writing those texts, a

fair amount of knowledge on how to interpret and analyze the

implications of these nakshatras on the given being must have existed

among the sages. I believe you must be aware of the discipline of

astrology where predictions and analysis are made based on nakshatra

positions.

Anyway, on the subject of whether modernity is needed in Vedic

Astrology or not, I think I am not the right person to comment on it.

My knowledge in the world of Vedic Astrology is very nascent. I just

began learning astrology out of tremendous curiosity and attraction

for this science. In fact, I have been reading some of the your

posts, and I must say, you have gathered very good understanding on

the subject. So I look forward to learning from you and other Gurus

in the area.

However, let me tell you about an effort aimed at modernizing Vedic

astrology. SATVA, or Systems Approach To Vedic Astrology, is an

effort to simplify the principles of ancient Vedic Astrology in order

to make it easier for people in the present times to learn and

comprehend the art of predictions. SA (Systems Approach) was

introduced by Mr. V.K.Choudhry. He also runs several on

SA and its applications in personal and mundane astrology. You may

want to check these groups out. I am a member of SA and

I must say that SA has made very easy for me to read horoscope. They

have a very nice and neat software called Junior Jyotish. However,

here is the downside of SA. I have never seen anybody predicting

accurately using SA, as yet. I regularly read messages on those

groups. Firstly, most of the members make very high level predictions

(rather than precise ones). Secondly, most of the predictions,

especially mundane ones, have not come true. The one I remember is

where one of the SA members predicted that US stock markets would see

a deep dip in end of October. Phew...the markets instead started a

slow recovery from October end onwards. Right now, the markets are

pretty much seeing a rally. Again, I am not saying that SA is wrong.

But my point is that most of the people practising SA do not have

enough expertise. Either they are applying wrong principles

altogether OR they are jumping on the wagon, just too soon! SA does

not recognize a lot of principles of classic Vedic Astrology; things

like Sade-sati, Kuja-dosha, a lot of Yogas (including the important

ones such as Gaj Kesari, Kal Sarpa, et al).

Just wanted to give in my 2 cents.

Regards.

Rageshwari.

vedic astrology, Mu'Min Bey <mumin_bey> wrote:

> Hi Rageshwari,

>

> As it says in my quote, I mentioned that those

> insights were gleaned over a thousand years ago; I am

> very familiar with the long and storied history of

> Vedic Astrology. I am both in awe of it and I hold it

> high esteem - yet, I maintain what I have said all

> along, that Vedic Astrology, if it is to be meaningful

> in today's modern world, has to keep in step with the

> times, in terms of its interpretation, etc.

>

> In your post below, you mention the use of Naksatras.

> Please allow me to ask you, since you bring it up;

> let's say you have a horoscope wherein which you see

> that the rising Naksatra is in Purva Ashadha; the Moon

> is in the star of Bharani, and the Sun is in Jyestha.

> What is your humanistic analysis of these Naksatra

> positions?

>

> Example is far better than precept; I await your

> response.

>

> Salaam,

> Mu

> --- shamiyana <shamiyana> wrote:

> > > it does none of us any good to cling to the

> > > insights that were gleaned over 1,000 years ago.

> >

> > I think you should check your numbers properly.

> > Vedic astrology is a

> > science that goes far beyond just 1000 years. I know

> > that Lord

> > Sriram's horoscopes are based upon ancient texts

> > that describe the

> > exact positioning of nakshatras. And Lord Sriram

> > existed almost 5000

> > years back. So!!! IMO, Vedic Astrology has evolved

> > over a period of

> > 5000 years atleast, and most probably even more than

> > that.

> >

> > Rageshwari.

> >

>

> =====

> Mu'Min M. Bey

> Western and Vedic Astrologer

> mumin_bey

> AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu

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> Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological

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November 22, 2002

Dear Mu,

Just my two cents worth of try on the nakshatras -

With 8th lord moon in the 5th in Bharani, sign of the womb, could we

postulate a pregnancy under extreme or difficult circumstances? Also a

strong interest in sex and perhaps quite a bit of indulgence as well.

Sun in the 12th as 9th lord - the missing father. In Jyeshta - a father who

tried to do the right thing by his family and to help a number of relatives

as well?

I really dont know much about the Purvashadha Nakshatra really. I can speak

for the above two nakshatra principles as having been tested personally on

charts I know.

Regards,

Nimmi

-

"shamiyana" <shamiyana

Friday, November 22, 2002 4:03 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Modernity in Vedic Astrology-to Rageshwari