Guest guest Posted November 23, 2002 Report Share Posted November 23, 2002 Hare Rama Krishna, Namaste Sarajit ji, I have a chart with a clear mahapurusha yoga, Ruchaka in kendra, aspected by exalted Jupiter, Moon in 9th, I am doubtful about the strength of Sun though. The chart is attached, Please check. Thanks, Rema ===== Rema Menon Mail Plus – Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Attachment: (application/octet-stream) sachu.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2002 Report Share Posted November 23, 2002 Namaste Sarajit, I am totally confused now. Let me ask you whether the given settings form a Panch Mahapurusha Yoga or not. I have a chart with Mars in 4th in its own sign Scorpio and Saturn in 10th in Taurus, from the lagna. Mars and Saturn form no conjunction with any other planets. Jupiter is in 5th from lagna. Although it is combust and in old age. Now in Navamsa, Mars is exalted in 3rd from lagna and Saturn is in the 9th in Cancer. Do you think that Mars and Saturn are Panch Mahapurusha Yoga conferring planets? If the answer is yes, then what effect would this yoga have on the native given the fact that native would probably not see Mars and Saturn mahadashas in his lifetime? Please note that since you mention classics do not take into consideration the positions from Sun and Moon, I have not considered position of Mars and Saturn from Sun and Moon. Regards. Rageshwari. vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit_poddar@h...> wrote: > Aum Namah Sivaya > Namsate All of you, > > As Mu rightly pointed out, the occurances of pure Pancha Mahapurusha yoga is infact rare. However, I do not agree with Mu's statement that we need to consider the Pancha Mahapurusha yoga from Sun, Moon and AK also. The classics strictly mention here that the yoga is formed in the kendra. > > As the name suggest, mahapurusha are those who reach the highest domain of the human potential. To reach such high domain of human potential is not possible for most of us and remain dormant, until the proper time come in the cycle of life and death, where we realise the same. The yoga will confer the qualities associated with the tattvas of the planets. These all requires the blessings of the Narayana, which is shown by the placement of these planets in the Kendra to the Lagna. Because, with the wish of Narayana only these yoga manifest, the presence in the Kendra is required. > > If such strong planet is there in the kendra, the nature of the person shall be highly influenced by the tattva of that planet, however for the results to manifest, the planet need to be placed in the Kendra. Now, like other yogas, the strength of Sun and Moon are equally important to initiate and sustain the yoga. In case of Pancha Mahapurusha yoga, the placement of Jupiter is also highly important. This is because the blessings for the Mahapurusha yoga comes through Jupiter and Jupiter's akasha tattva can only ensure that all other planets and rasis support the yoga to flourish. > > The other important point to note here and in other yogas too, how the dispositor is placed both in the rasi and the navamsa. If badly placed in the navamsa, the yoga can be simply nullified, however in the rasi chart, if badly placed, some of the effect is lessened. > > Do remember that a pure Mahapurusha yoga, should not have any conjunction otherwise the effect is diluted and given by the conjoining planet instead. > > Last of all one need to check, which kendra (Dharma 1st, artha 10th, kama 7th, moksha 4th) this yoga is happening, and can show the results related to that. The placement of the Mahapurusha yoga conferring planet from the AL also shall show, what it is conferring in this life. > > These all show, why in the horoscopes of Avatars, the planets are in great strength (Brhat Jataka). The great strength of the Planets in the kendra does take us near to that of our divine potentials. > > Constructive thoughts highly appreciated. I hope sometime in future Gurudev Sanjayji writes on this topic. > > > Rgds > Sarajit > > > - > shamiyana > Saturday, November 23, 2002 7:41 AM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: PMPY & MGR > > Dear all, > > What if the PMY planet is in upachaya from Sun/moon and not in a > trine (or angle) ? Is it considered PMY still? The reason I am asking > this question is because a planet in upachaya is more powerful then > the one in trine correct? > > Please enlighten me. > > Thanks. > > Rageshwari. > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > > Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om > > > > -- > ------------ > > > > Dear Sarasalai, > > MG Ramachandiran, has Hamsa MahaPurusha Yoga, emanating from Lagna, > so why should we check Sun? The Moon in the 7th with Jupiter, is a > yoga for longlasting fame, especially when the Navamsa and Arudha > Lagna supports it. > > > > If you wanto contradict Mine or Mu's statements, go find the slokas > describing the Pancha(5) MahaPurusha(great personality) Yogas > (combinations). > > > > Best wishes > > Visti > > --- > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic- > astrologybphs.zip > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda- > ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html > > - > > sarasalai_siva > > vedic astrology > > Friday, November 22, 2002 7:00 PM > > [vedic astrology] PMPY & MGR > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha! > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > What Mu says about PMPY is correct. Look the chart of > > M.G.Ramachandiran. His D.O.B. January, 11th, 1916. Time 11:32 PM. > > Long: 80E41.. Lat: 7N18. > > > > M.G.Ramachandiran ( M.G.R ) was a very famous Tamil film actor > and > > turned politician. He was the founder of the present rulling > party of > > Tamil nadu Government. In a single wave he/his party captured the > > second largest populace's Tamil nadu government. His fame was > > unprecedented. > > > > His asc is Virgo ( actor ). In the 7th Jupiter and moon.The sun > is in > > the 4th , sagit: Mer, venu, rahu in the 5th: Sat in the 10th: > > kethu in the 11th Cn: mars in the 12th in leo. > > > > Lets see his hamsa Yoga Jupiter, from the sun, it is in the 4th, > > Pisces. Moon and Jupiter together in the pisces. His AL > taurus > > ( again actor ) From the AL Jupiter is in the 11th. ( not in > dustana) > > > > In D-9, Exalted Jupiter aspects the moon. > > > > sarasalai_siva > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted November 23, 2002 Report Share Posted November 23, 2002 Shamiyana Mars in 4th & in scorpio forms one of the PMPY namely ruchaka yoga. Sa in Ta does not contribute to PMPY. For leo ascendants, mars is a YK Also note that it is happening in 4th house which will promote owning of lands, houses. Even if the native does not see mars mahadasas, the bhukti & antara will definitely bestow the results. Sa by owning 6th & 7th does not become a benific planetand may create problems in career front. Lakshman --- shamiyana <shamiyana wrote: > Namaste Sarajit, > > I am totally confused now. Let me ask you whether > the given settings > form a Panch Mahapurusha Yoga or not. > > I have a chart with Mars in 4th in its own sign > Scorpio and Saturn in > 10th in Taurus, from the lagna. Mars and Saturn form > no conjunction > with any other planets. Jupiter is in 5th from > lagna. Although it is > combust and in old age. Now in Navamsa, Mars is > exalted in 3rd from > lagna and Saturn is in the 9th in Cancer. Do you > think that Mars and > Saturn are Panch Mahapurusha Yoga conferring > planets? If the answer > is yes, then what effect would this yoga have on the > native given the > fact that native would probably not see Mars and > Saturn mahadashas in > his lifetime? > > Please note that since you mention classics do not > take into > consideration the positions from Sun and Moon, I > have not considered > position of Mars and Saturn from Sun and Moon. > > Regards. > > Rageshwari. > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" > <sarajit_poddar@h...> > wrote: > > Aum Namah Sivaya > > Namsate All of you, > > > > As Mu rightly pointed out, the occurances of pure > Pancha > Mahapurusha yoga is infact rare. However, I do not > agree with Mu's > statement that we need to consider the Pancha > Mahapurusha yoga from > Sun, Moon and AK also. The classics strictly mention > here that the > yoga is formed in the kendra. > > > > As the name suggest, mahapurusha are those who > reach the highest > domain of the human potential. To reach such high > domain of human > potential is not possible for most of us and remain > dormant, until > the proper time come in the cycle of life and death, > where we realise > the same. The yoga will confer the qualities > associated with the > tattvas of the planets. These all requires the > blessings of the > Narayana, which is shown by the placement of these > planets in the > Kendra to the Lagna. Because, with the wish of > Narayana only these > yoga manifest, the presence in the Kendra is > required. > > > > If such strong planet is there in the kendra, the > nature of the > person shall be highly influenced by the tattva of > that planet, > however for the results to manifest, the planet need > to be placed in > the Kendra. Now, like other yogas, the strength of > Sun and Moon are > equally important to initiate and sustain the yoga. > In case of Pancha > Mahapurusha yoga, the placement of Jupiter is also > highly important. > This is because the blessings for the Mahapurusha > yoga comes through > Jupiter and Jupiter's akasha tattva can only ensure > that all other > planets and rasis support the yoga to flourish. > > > > The other important point to note here and in > other yogas too, how > the dispositor is placed both in the rasi and the > navamsa. If badly > placed in the navamsa, the yoga can be simply > nullified, however in > the rasi chart, if badly placed, some of the effect > is lessened. > > > > Do remember that a pure Mahapurusha yoga, should > not have any > conjunction otherwise the effect is diluted and > given by the > conjoining planet instead. > > > > Last of all one need to check, which kendra > (Dharma 1st, artha > 10th, kama 7th, moksha 4th) this yoga is happening, > and can show the > results related to that. The placement of the > Mahapurusha yoga > conferring planet from the AL also shall show, what > it is conferring > in this life. > > > > These all show, why in the horoscopes of Avatars, > the planets are > in great strength (Brhat Jataka). The great strength > of the Planets > in the kendra does take us near to that of our > divine potentials. > > > > Constructive thoughts highly appreciated. I hope > sometime in future > Gurudev Sanjayji writes on this topic. > > > > > > Rgds > > Sarajit > > > > > > - > > shamiyana > > Saturday, November 23, 2002 7:41 AM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: PMPY & MGR > > > > Dear all, > > > > What if the PMY planet is in upachaya from > Sun/moon and not in a > > trine (or angle) ? Is it considered PMY still? The > reason I am > asking > > this question is because a planet in upachaya is > more powerful > then > > the one in trine correct? > > > > Please enlighten me. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Rageshwari. > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <vishnu@l...> wrote: > > > Om Jum Sah. Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah. Sah Jum Om > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------ > > > > > > Dear Sarasalai, > > > MG Ramachandiran, has Hamsa MahaPurusha Yoga, > emanating from > Lagna, > > so why should we check Sun? The Moon in the 7th > with Jupiter, is a > > yoga for longlasting fame, especially when the > Navamsa and Arudha > > Lagna supports it. > > > > > > If you wanto contradict Mine or Mu's statements, > go find the > slokas > > describing the Pancha(5) MahaPurusha(great > personality) Yogas > > (combinations). > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Visti > > > --- > > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra: > vedic- > > astrologybphs.zip > > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda- > > ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html > > > - > > > sarasalai_siva > > > vedic astrology > > > Friday, November 22, 2002 7:00 PM > > > [vedic astrology] PMPY & MGR > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha! > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > What Mu says about PMPY is correct. Look > the chart of > > > M.G.Ramachandiran. His D.O.B. January, 11th, > 1916. === message truncated === Mail Plus – Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. 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Guest guest Posted November 24, 2002 Report Share Posted November 24, 2002 Hare Rama Krishna, Namaste Sarajitji, Thanks for the reply. Yes, it is a good chart, and belongs to my older son. And I am in the process of getting him to recite the mantra. Right now he is in the Rahu dasa, surely during Jupiter he will get to be more spiritual and will start the japam. I am hoping so. Thanks so much, Rema --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajit_poddar wrote: > Hare Rama Krsna > Dear Rema > > > There is not only Ruchaka yoga but also Hamsa Yoga, > being Mars and Jupiter in Lagna and 7th > respectively. In the first look we might conclude > that Sun is stronger as there is an exchange of Sun > and Sat/ Rahu. However in the Navamsa we see that > the Sun is debilitated. Moon is stronger as in > exalted Navamsa. This all show that he will get good > results of the yoga during the dasa of Mars and Jup. > For fructification of these yogas, one should > worship MahaVishnu and to strengthen all the three > Lagna, Sun and Moon, the recitation of the Mantra > Hare Rama Krsna is helpful. > > There are some other pretty beautiful yogas in the > chart. > > Rgds > Sarajit > > > - > Rema Menon > Saturday, November 23, 2002 9:41 PM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Pancha Mahapurusha > Yoga > > Hare Rama Krishna, > Namaste Sarajit ji, > > I have a chart with a clear mahapurusha yoga, > Ruchaka > in kendra, aspected by exalted Jupiter, Moon in 9th, > I > am doubtful about the strength of Sun though. > > The chart is attached, Please check. > > Thanks, > Rema > > > > ===== > Rema Menon > > > > Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > http://mailplus. > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > > Your use of is subject to > Get more from the > Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > ===== Rema Menon Mail Plus – Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2002 Report Share Posted November 28, 2002 Deat Sarajit jee, One of my relative has 2 pancha maha purusha yogas. Malavya and hamsa yoga. He is very spiritual, and also an industrialist. He has his own factory. Now it is in some troubles.Is it posible for the fructification of yogas through the the recitation of the Mantra Hare Rama Krishna? DOB: February20th, 1972 Time of birth: 3AM Longitude:80E35 Latitude:16N15 Thank you very much, Kumar vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit_poddar@h...> wrote: > Hare Rama Krsna > Dear Rema > > > There is not only Ruchaka yoga but also Hamsa Yoga, being Mars and Jupiter in Lagna and 7th respectively. In the first look we might conclude that Sun is stronger as there is an exchange of Sun and Sat/ Rahu. However in the Navamsa we see that the Sun is debilitated. Moon is stronger as in exalted Navamsa. This all show that he will get good results of the yoga during the dasa of Mars and Jup. For fructification of these yogas, one should worship MahaVishnu and to strengthen all the three Lagna, Sun and Moon, the recitation of the Mantra Hare Rama Krsna is helpful. > > There are some other pretty beautiful yogas in the chart. > > Rgds > Sarajit > > > - > Rema Menon > Saturday, November 23, 2002 9:41 PM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Pancha Mahapurusha Yoga > > Hare Rama Krishna, > Namaste Sarajit ji, > > I have a chart with a clear mahapurusha yoga, Ruchaka > in kendra, aspected by exalted Jupiter, Moon in 9th, I > am doubtful about the strength of Sun though. > > The chart is attached, Please check. > > Thanks, > Rema > > > > ===== > Rema Menon > > > > Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus. > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-@e... > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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