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EXCHANGE OF HOUSES BETWEEN JUPITER AND MARS

The exchange between Jupiter and Mars will strenghten the karaga

qualities of the planets and their houses. The ratianale behind this

is goes to each other houses and will look after another.

Furthermore, since Mars and Jupiter are natural friends and can be

considered functional benefics as the the lords of trine (Mars being

9th lord and Jupiter being 5th lord), it is a `plus' point for the

native. Both 5th and 9th houses are dharma houses. The native is

probably full of life. He is filled with vigour and vitality. He

proceed in every affair and behaviour with a strong purpose.

 

Nevertheless, he has to be careful of Jupiter's effect since it is

also 8th lord.

 

MARS IS ASPECTING THE LAGNA LORD

Mars aspecting Lagna Lord will accentuate the native's aggressiveness

and give him the power to overcome his enemy. Personally speaking,

even though Sun is the Lagna Lord, it may bring the downfall of the

native and reduce his lifespan. (Please see Sun in the 8th House)

 

MARS ASPECTING KETU

Mars as Moksha lord (lord of 4th house) aspecting Ketu, a karaga for

Moksha and the 12 house, another Moksha house, strengthened his

inclination towards liberation.

 

SEXUAL INDULGENCE

>From another perspective, the 12th house can also represent bedroom

pleasure. The native may experience plenty of sex. This native

sexual propensity may be accentuated by his amorous life as Mars is

in 5th and also his natural tendency towards sexual indulgence as his

Lagna lord fall in 8th house which represents the genital organs. In

addition of having a beautiful wife or gorgeous partners which is

signified by Venus in 7th house, the temptation for sexual

involvement is difficult to resist.

 

SHIFT AWAY FROM SEXUAL INVOLVEMENT

However, I believe that he may shift away from his sexual habit in

Ketu Dasa Saturn Bukhti. During this period, he will spend more time

and energy towards achieving `liberation'. Saturn is

the `taskmaster'. He will curtail our pleasures and force us to

learn some lessons which may have resulted from our karmic debts.

Therefore, his influence compels us to seek some answer in life and

endeavour in a pursuit of a higher calling.

 

KETU DASA SATURN BUKHTI

Why did I say it happen during Ketu Dasa Saturn Bukhti. My master

taught me to look at the effect of Bukhti from the (1) the Dasa Lord,

(2) the Chandra Lord, and (3) the Ascendant. Do you practice reading

in this manner?

 

Using this method, Saturn is the 10th from Dasa Lord, 11th from the

Chandra Lord, and 9th from the Ascendant. The 10th, 11th and 9th are

good houses for Saturn to be in. As a result, the transition may not

engender much hardship to the native but I believe that he will

definitely change his focus. Venus in the 7th house may not give him

much pleasure later on because Prasara has mentioned that a natural

benefics owning the a Kendra house becomes a functional malefic.

Furthermore, according to Prasara again, Venus for Leo also owns

an `evil' house (3rd house).

 

VENUS AS MALEFIC TO LEO ASCENDANT

If we look at Leo Ascendant in general, there are often amorous in

their relationship with regal charm and charisma to attract the

opposite sex. However, there are their own person and hate to be

control by any other since there are Simha, the lion and lord of the

jungle. They dislike taking orders or suggestions from another

people. This explain the inimical relationship of Leo Ascendant and

Venus, karaga for spouse.

 

SPENDING ON `MARTIAN' ACTIVITIES

Another reading for Mars aspecting in the 12th house is that the

native will spend large sum of his money to pursue liberation. This

is because 12th house is the house of expenditure and whichever

planets are influencing the house will show how the money is being

channelled base upon the karaga and lordship quality.

 

 

MARS IS ASPECTING THE MOON AND SATURN

What I know that Mars aspect the Sun, the Moon, and Ketu. I don't

think Mars aspect Saturn. Therefore, it will not give a direct

effect on Saturn nor Mars in which both are in Aries. It will only

affect the portfolio of the 9th house. Consequently, it will

indirectly affect the house quality and the `ambience' will either

afflict or support the planets within.

 

Moon is the karaga of a person' mental-emotional plane. Since Mars

is aspecting Moon, I believe the native's mental make-up is often on

the assertive edge and brazen in his approach.

 

Also, as Moon is the karaga for mother and Mars is Bumikaran (karaga

for landed property) as well as being the lord of 4th and 9th, the

native's mother is bestowed with much wealth.

 

QUESTION FIVE: INCLINATION TOWARDS MATERIALISM

Not here is an interesting case. True, the native may seek moksha.

However, in his chart, there is a high degree of materialism involve

due to the incoming wealth from Jupiter in 4th house, Mars in 5th

house, Venus is in 7th house and Moon is in 7th house. The effect of

Moon may not be as potent as the other planets because it is the lord

of 12th and has moved backward. Still being a natural benefic, it

will give the native some favourable results.

 

LIBERATION FROM OPPRESSION

My opinion is that Moksha may mean liberation but may not necessary

specify it as spiritual liberation. Base upon the information you

gave me, I think Moksha to your friend means to be free from

oppression. How do I come to such conclusion?

 

GOVERNMENT AS ENEMY

Sun is in 8th house. Since Sun is the Karaga for Government and

being in the 8th house, your friend will see the Government as an

enemy. He carries in himself negative sentiments against the present

rules and established regulations. It may not be obvious to him

because 8th house represents covert or hidden enemies. Only the 6th

house signifies overt enemies. He may not realise his antagonism

towards the Government. I think that is the reason for him to

support the Tamil Tigers.

 

BEING AN INFLUENTIONAL FIGURE

I think he might become an influential figure or a political person

fighting for change against the Government and to liberate his people

according to his ideals. This is supported by his `fortune' to

pervasively influence public because Saturn is the karaga for masses

and 9th house is the house of fortune.

 

USING INTELLECTUAL ABILITIES

He would most probably use his intellectual abilities rather than his

personal charisma (signify by Venus aspect on the Ascendant) to

influence the masses. This is due to Mercury being together with

Saturn in the 9th house. Therefore, I believe he has the abilities

to `confused' people to his beliefs and ideals.

 

PROBLEM WITH FOLLOWERS

Unfortunately, he may have problems with his followers as Saturn is

debilitated in Aries and also Saturn is the lord for the house of

servants. His followers may not be so cooperative with him.

Furthermore, having Rahu aggravates his situation. Rahu is the

planet of sudden occurrence. His followers may desert or even betray

him at the spur of the moment.

 

OVERCOMING ENEMIES

Fortunately, having Saturn aspecting its own house at 6th and Sun in

the 8th, he may gain some salvation in overcoming his enemies. Now,

you may wonder why Sun in the 8th can defeat his enemy? Sun is a

powerful planet and it can burn its adversaries to dust (provided he

is debilitated in Libra or afflicted by Rahu, Ketu, and Saturn).

What happen if Sun, the Lagna lord is not in the 8th house? Then the

native does not even have enemies to contend with?

 

SUN IN 8TH HOUSE: SHORTER LIFEPSAN?

Nevertheless, having Sun in the 8th house may shorten his life span.

Remember Sun is karaga for vigour and is obstructed by 8th house's

influence. Then again, it can be argued that since the Lagna lord is

in the 8th, the native should enjoy long life but with only one

downfall – his life will be plagued by chronic problems. These

problems may not always be due to direct human influence because for

this we should look at the 6th house. The native life can be

disturbed by situational problems.

Maybe you can give your opinion on this.

 

MARS ASPECTING THE LAGNA LORD

Fortunately, Mars is aspecting the Lagna Lord which is also the Sun.

Since Mars is a functional benefic being the owner of 4th and 9th

house, it strengthens the native assertiveness and aggressiveness to

deal with difficult situations. I believe the native is not a person

who will easily give up. Is this true about your friend?

 

SHOULD NOT WORK FOR PEOPLE

The native should not work for people as he will have conflict with

his superiors. This is shown by the Lagna Lord in the 8th house.

Sun is the karaga for leader and since your friend want to lead, he

cannot accept directives from people and will be at loggerhead with

his superiors. He should find a situation which gives him the

opportunity to lead or to govern himself (like be an entrepreneur)

without listening to other people's directives.

 

WEAR GLASSES

Does the native wear glasses? Or perhaps suffer from poor vision?

The reason I asked because Ketu is 12th house which may affect his

eyes.

 

GURU-MANGAL YOGA

I'm not familiar with this yoga. Perhaps other can enlighten me.

 

Thank you for your chart. I find that I've learn a lot from applying

my knowledge.

 

 

vedic astrology, Hari Krishnan <hariks>

wrote:

> Hi John,

> I agree with most of the thoughts presented by you.

> Still I have some questions with u.

> 1. Since the native is Leo Ascendant, and MARS being

> yoga karaka for Leo Ascendant.

> I like to know few things more.

> You see,

> 1. Exchange of Houses between Jupiter and

> MARS(yogakaraka)

> 2. Mars is aspecting the Lagna Lord i.e. SUN

> 3. Mars is aspecting Ketu(at 12th house ie. House

> of Losses) also

> 4. Mars is aspecting the Moon and saturn(resides in

> Aries(Mars is the Lord) is also aspecting Moon

> 5. Jupiter is also aspecting the Ketu, as jupiter

> exchanged the house with Mars

> So the collective aspect of all these planets,

> shows me that he more inclined towards

> Materialism than moksha. what do you think.

>

> 2. Now he is in Mercury Dasa, and Ketu Dasa is going

> start by 2012 I believe.

> This shows me second thought, he may opt for

> Moksha.

>

> 3. Both Trine(5, Mars)/Kendra(4, Jupiter) are

> aspecting Lagna Lord i.e. Sun

> What it signifies here?

>

> 4. Eventhoug Rahu is in an Upachaya house 6th, but

> also Jupiter is in Kendra,

> this gives him a another Yoga. what do you think?

>

> 5. Since Mars and Jupiter are exchanged the house, can

> it considered as

> as GURU-Mangal Yoga.

>

> I will invite some more others along with John to

> put their thoughts on this horoscope.

>

> regards

> ~Hari~

> --- asoka112002 <asoka112002> wrote:

> > vedic astrology, "hariks" <hariks>

> > wrote:

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > Birth Time: 03-14PM

> > > Birth 03-04-1971

> > > Birth Place: Vellore, Tamil Nadu

> > >

> > > Asc - Leo

> > > Jupiter - 4 from Asc (Note: Both Jup and Mars are

> > in Parivarthana)

> > > Mars - 5 from Asc (Note: Both Jup and Mars are in

> > Parivarthana)

> > > Rahu - 6 from Asc

> > > Venus - 7 from Asc

> > > Sun - 8 from Asc (Lagna Lord in 8th)

> > > Mercury & Saturn - 9th from Asc

> > > Moon - 11 from Asc (Full moon)

> > > Ketu - 12 from Asc

> > >

> > > Can somebody put their Vedic Knowledge on above

> > said horoscope.

> > >

> > > Thanks in Advance

> > > ~Hari~

> >

> > Dear everyone,

> >

> > My name is John from Malaysia and is currently a

> > student in Vedic

> > astrology. I'm looking for materials to practice my

> > interpretation.

> >

> > Pardon my presentation as it may be haphazard.

> >

> > Sun is in 8th. The native may have problems with

> > superiors and the

> > government may not be helpful either as it may

> > impose restrictions to

> > the native's activities. This may not occur if the

> > native is working

> > for himself and very little dealings with the

> > government.

> >

> > The native will experience long life as its

> > Ascendant lord is in the

> > 8th (house of longevity).

> >

> > As Rahu is in an Upachaya house 6th, the native will

> > face disturbance

> > from many enemies. He will have the power to defeat

> > his enemy but

> > after much struggle. The native power over his

> > enemies also comes

> > from Saturn being in 9th (house of fortune) and

> > aspects its own house.

> >

> > The native may have some occasional disturbance of

> > diseases but the

> > extent of the illness is not serious since Saturn is

> > aspecting its

> > own house which acts as salvation.

> >

> > According to Prashara, Venus for this Ascendant is a

> > functional

> > malefic being the 3rd lord. In addition, when a

> > benefic planet own a

> > Kendra house is will become a functional malefic.

> > In this case,

> > Venus owns the 10th house. Career wise, the native

> > has to work hard

> > and somehow the native has to devote his life to

> > service. The 10th

> > lord has gone to 10th from him. Being 6th from the

> > Ascendant, the

> > native is committed to his trade and will naturally

> > work hard in his

> > career. Even if his life is not of hardship, he

> > still wants to work.

> >

> > The inclination towards moksha may also be

> > strengthened as Saturn

> > being 8th lord, a moksha, has gone into a 4th house,

> > a moksha house.

> > In addition, the Ascendant lord also falls into a

> > moksha house. The

> > tendency towards moksha is very strong for this

> > native. Perhaps,

> > Mars being the moksha lord aspecting the 12th house,

> > also accentuate

> > the inclination towards moksha. Furthermore, Mars

> > is also aspecting

> > the Ascendant lord in the 8th of the natal chart,

> >

> > Moon has gone backward from its house which may not

> > bring much

> > favourable results and therefore, the native may not

> > enjoy much gain

> > and fulfilment. His wealth is probably expended on

> > his friends or

> > elder siblings (signifies by 11th house). I feel

> > the former to be

> > true.

> >

> > The native is either handsome or beautiful due to

> > Venus aspect.

> > Charming the person may be, the native may be barren

> > or infertile as

> > Sun is in the 8th house (house of sexual organs). If

> > the native is to

> > have a partner, he or she will also be handsome or

> > beautiful.

> > However, the relationship may not last due to the

> > strong moksha

> > tendencies. The native may later renounce the

> > affair.

> >

> > Mars,a trine lord, has gone to a trine. The native

> > can engage in

> > speculation when the right Dasa and Bukhti comes.

> >

> > There is Sambandha relationship between Mars and

> > Jupiter as they

> > exchange houses. In addition, Mars being a Kendra

> > and Jupiter being

> > a trine it create a Yoga Kara. Therefore, the

> > native also received

> > much fixed property and enjoy domestic happiness.

> >

> > In the family, there is no passionate display of

> > emotion by the

> > native due to the virtuous Jupiter. The native

> > often communicate

> > with other with intellectual thinking since Mercury

> > the 2nd lord (2nd

> > refers to speech) is in 9th in conjunction with

> > Saturn. It is Saturn

> > that put the refrain to the native intellectual

> > process and prevents

> > the native from being too impulsive in his thinking.

> > The native

> > always think before he speaks as both Saturn (karaga

> > for refrain and

> > restrain) and Mercury (karaga for intellectual

> > process and rational

> > thinking) is aspecting the third house (house of

> > expression). If the

> > native only has Mercury in 9th house in the Sign of

> > Aries, the native

> > may be a little impulsive in his speech.

> >

> > Perhaps, the native find its easy to win for fixed

> > property or

> > vehicles. Unfortunately, the Ascendant lord Sun is

> > in the 8th. This

> > may mean that the native either will not receive

> > substantial benefits

> > due to its weakened structure. Furthermore, the

> > native may later not

> > enjoy having such fortune and assets as Ketu is in

> > 12th house leading

> > the native to moksha.

> >

> > Jupiter being in a Kendra becomes powerful. Being

> > the 8th lord also,

> > it may carry with him some malefic content. As

> > Jupiter is a natural

> > benefic, any negative influence will be to a small

> > extent. The

> > effect of Jupiter will be seen during the dasa

> > bukhti period.

> >

> > Question:

> > 1. Just like to know, is this person a priest?

> > 2. What is Parivarthana?

> > 3. If the native is inclined to moksha, will he

> > still be in pursuit

> > of materialism?

> > 4. Does the native philosophy and practice goes

> > against the

> > government?

> > 5. Does the native have younger siblings? Are

> > younger siblings

> > wayward?

> >

> > Please tell me if I'm wrong so I can learn from all

> > of you.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> > John Choong

> >

> >

>

>

>

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