Guest guest Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 Hi all, Say if Lagnesh is in 12th house then we can safely consider it that Lagnesh will loose the power to bless the person atleast materialistically.But at the same time such planet becomes 2nd from AL which is suppose to bless the person again materialistically. In such a case what one can expect in such planet dasa. Can anybody explain me this contradiction. Regards Parag --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajit_poddar wrote: > Hare Rama Krsna > Dear Sunil, > > Never be afraid of putting forth any questions which > is bothering you. If > you don't do it, it remains in the back of mind and > you forget in due time, > sometimes without getting an answer. So this hinders > in the process of > learning. Also never think any question to be stupid > or silly. If something > is bothering you, there bound to be some substance > in it. We pose so called > stupid questions at first and then when are learnt, > we think how stupid that > question was. Believe me, nobody is learnt from the > beginning. It is a > ongoing process. So no worry in putting any question > to the forum. > > Now the questions you asked. Sun shows authority and > in the 3rd from AL, > shall make the person authoratative. Now we all know > that for spirituality, > humbleness and complete submission is required. On > one hand, the former > makes you take initiatives and make you do things, > on the other hand the > benefics will make you realise that you are bound by > the will of the > almighty and shall submit yourself to his wish. Sun > with mercury shall give > mixed effects and as Merc is combust, Sun shall be > stronger in showing > effects. If Sun is debilitated in the Rasi or > Navamsa then the effect shall > be opposite and shall make the person humble. BTW, > Sun in the 3rd from AL > doesn't give unscrupulous means of income, however, > shall shape his atitude > towards it. where is ur Sun placed in Navamsa. Is it > debilitated! > > Rahu in the 7th or 12th from AL, shall give > spirituality. This is because in > the first case Ketu comes to the AL and the person > does many spiritual > activities however, the latter shall make the person > renounce materialism. > > Regards > Sarajit > > > > > > >Sunil John <suniljohn_2002 > >vedic astrology > >vedic astrology > >Re: [vedic astrology] Mr Sarajit Poddar - > Re: AL in Dasamasa > >Thu, 19 Dec 2002 06:39:42 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Dear Gurus, > >As usual i made a mistake , its a typo of a sort. > Actually it is 11th from > >AL if Rahu is present in the 7th house. > >And instead of sending this query directly to Mr > Sarajit Poddar, I sent it > >on the board(blushing) , hope my query was properly > placed. > >Sunil John > > Sunil John <suniljohn_2002 wrote: > >Dear Mr. Sarajit Poddar, > >Dear Learned Guru, > >This is a private mail in response to one of your > replies on > >vedic astrology . > >I am just a learner and a bit confused with AL in > Dasamasa replies, > >If from AL(in Rasi chart) if Rahu is present in the > 7th house, and 3rd > >house from AL, exalted sun with Mercury(combust) > for Gemini lagna, what > >would be the indications . Will this person have > unscruplous means of > >income, Sun and Mercury, would it be treated as > malefics here in absolute > >regard and would it form obstruction to the > Rahu/7th house significations. > >If my query is stupid pls forgive me, as i am a > learner with maybe confused > >basics. SOme Gurus might not like personal mails, > but i am too shy to put > >my queries on the board as yet. > >Best Regards, > >Sunil John > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit_poddar > wrote: Jaya > >Jagannatha,Namaste Gauranga Prabhu and Parag, My > understanding is that > >malefics in the 3rd and 6th from AL is very good > for material prospects. > >The stronger they are the better they are for > material gains. 3rd is the > >house of courage and valour, malefics placed there > shall use their means of > >valour to enhance the AL. So the malefics placed in > strength shall cause > >good material prospects. The opposite is true for > benefics, which are bad > >for material and good for spiritual pursuits. As we > are analysing in > >Dasamsa, I shall presume that we all mean that the > results shall be given > >in the workplace or field of karma in broader > sense. 3rd is mysterious > >house and shows the place and circumstances of > death. Here we are applying > >the bhavat bhavam principle of 8th from 8th. > However, I think this is > >applicable to rasi chart only and not in the job > field. Malefics causing > >argala from the 3rd without any virodhargala shows > that this will cause the > >desires to grow and grow without any opposition. > This is why malefics in > >the 3rd gives the drive to fulfill those desires. > regards > >Sarajit - > Gauranga DasThursday, > >December 19, 2002 5:12 PMTo: > vedic astrology: Re: > >[vedic astrology] Re: AL in Dasamasa JAYA > JAGANNATHA! > > > >Dear Parag, > > > >Namaste. > > > >AL in D-10 indicates how others perceive you in the > area of career. However > >I do not think that the dictum of Jaimini on the > 3rd from AL in Rasi chart > >will be applicable without change to the D-10. If > we think oina broadre > >sense, planets in 3rd from AL would indicate > obstacles, difficulties, in > >this case may indicate difficulties in career > success arising from > >government (Sun), conflicts (Mars) and servants > (Saturn). The picture is > >complicated by taking into consideration that > planets in the 3rd obstruct > >the argala given by planets in the 11th from AL, > however if these are > >malefics, as you have indicated, they will cause a > Viparita argala, so the > >circumstances which initially seem to be > difficulties, turn out to be > >helpful in the ned, alhtough this may involve the > suffering of someone > >else. > > > >Yours, > > > >Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > gauranga > > Jyotish Remedies: > >WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > >- > >"parag dharmadhikari" <dparagin > ><vedic astrology> > >Wednesday, December 18, 2002 8:21 AM > >Re: [vedic astrology] Re: AL in Dasamasa > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > In rashi chart 3rd from AL is Death indicater.So > then > > > what would 3rd from AL in dasamasa indicate. > > > Does it indicate death of career. > > > If there are sun,mars and saturn 3rd from AL in > D-10 > > > then what does it indicate. > > > > > > Kindly can one help. > > > > > > Regards > > > Parag > > > > > > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr > wrote: > > > > Dear Saikumar, > > > > > === message truncated === Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 Dear Parag, My understanding is that lagnesh will be lord of 3rd house for AL. So you will get the effect of 3rd lord in second. btw, lagnesh in 12th doesnt automatically mean material loss (though that is the most likely case). It might also mean success in foreign lands. -Siva. vedic astrology, parag dharmadhikari <dparagin> wrote: > Hi all, > > Say if Lagnesh is in 12th house then we can safely > consider it that Lagnesh will loose the power to bless > the person atleast materialistically.But at the same > time such planet becomes 2nd from AL which is suppose > to bless the person again materialistically. > > In such a case what one can expect in such planet > dasa. > Can anybody explain me this contradiction. > > Regards > Parag > > --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajit_poddar@h...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Dear Sunil, > > > > Never be afraid of putting forth any questions which > > is bothering you. If > > you don't do it, it remains in the back of mind and > > you forget in due time, > > sometimes without getting an answer. So this hinders > > in the process of > > learning. Also never think any question to be stupid > > or silly. If something > > is bothering you, there bound to be some substance > > in it. We pose so called > > stupid questions at first and then when are learnt, > > we think how stupid that > > question was. Believe me, nobody is learnt from the > > beginning. It is a > > ongoing process. So no worry in putting any question > > to the forum. > > > > Now the questions you asked. Sun shows authority and > > in the 3rd from AL, > > shall make the person authoratative. Now we all know > > that for spirituality, > > humbleness and complete submission is required. On > > one hand, the former > > makes you take initiatives and make you do things, > > on the other hand the > > benefics will make you realise that you are bound by > > the will of the > > almighty and shall submit yourself to his wish. Sun > > with mercury shall give > > mixed effects and as Merc is combust, Sun shall be > > stronger in showing > > effects. If Sun is debilitated in the Rasi or > > Navamsa then the effect shall > > be opposite and shall make the person humble. BTW, > > Sun in the 3rd from AL > > doesn't give unscrupulous means of income, however, > > shall shape his atitude > > towards it. where is ur Sun placed in Navamsa. Is it > > debilitated! > > > > Rahu in the 7th or 12th from AL, shall give > > spirituality. This is because in > > the first case Ketu comes to the AL and the person > > does many spiritual > > activities however, the latter shall make the person > > renounce materialism. > > > > Regards > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sunil John <suniljohn_2002> > > >vedic astrology > > >vedic astrology > > >Re: [vedic astrology] Mr Sarajit Poddar - > > Re: AL in Dasamasa > > >Thu, 19 Dec 2002 06:39:42 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > >Dear Gurus, > > >As usual i made a mistake , its a typo of a sort. > > Actually it is 11th from > > >AL if Rahu is present in the 7th house. > > >And instead of sending this query directly to Mr > > Sarajit Poddar, I sent it > > >on the board(blushing) , hope my query was properly > > placed. > > >Sunil John > > > Sunil John <suniljohn_2002> wrote: > > >Dear Mr. Sarajit Poddar, > > >Dear Learned Guru, > > >This is a private mail in response to one of your > > replies on > > >vedic astrology . > > >I am just a learner and a bit confused with AL in > > Dasamasa replies, > > >If from AL(in Rasi chart) if Rahu is present in the > > 7th house, and 3rd > > >house from AL, exalted sun with Mercury(combust) > > for Gemini lagna, what > > >would be the indications . Will this person have > > unscruplous means of > > >income, Sun and Mercury, would it be treated as > > malefics here in absolute > > >regard and would it form obstruction to the > > Rahu/7th house significations. > > >If my query is stupid pls forgive me, as i am a > > learner with maybe confused > > >basics. SOme Gurus might not like personal mails, > > but i am too shy to put > > >my queries on the board as yet. > > >Best Regards, > > >Sunil John > > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit_poddar@h...> > > wrote: Jaya > > >Jagannatha,Namaste Gauranga Prabhu and Parag, My > > understanding is that > > >malefics in the 3rd and 6th from AL is very good > > for material prospects. > > >The stronger they are the better they are for > > material gains. 3rd is the > > >house of courage and valour, malefics placed there > > shall use their means of > > >valour to enhance the AL. So the malefics placed in > > strength shall cause > > >good material prospects. The opposite is true for > > benefics, which are bad > > >for material and good for spiritual pursuits. As we > > are analysing in > > >Dasamsa, I shall presume that we all mean that the > > results shall be given > > >in the workplace or field of karma in broader > > sense. 3rd is mysterious > > >house and shows the place and circumstances of > > death. Here we are applying > > >the bhavat bhavam principle of 8th from 8th. > > However, I think this is > > >applicable to rasi chart only and not in the job > > field. Malefics causing > > >argala from the 3rd without any virodhargala shows > > that this will cause the > > >desires to grow and grow without any opposition. > > This is why malefics in > > >the 3rd gives the drive to fulfill those desires. > > regards > > >Sarajit - > > Gauranga DasThursday, > > >December 19, 2002 5:12 PMTo: > > vedic astrology: Re: > > >[vedic astrology] Re: AL in Dasamasa JAYA > > JAGANNATHA! > > > > > >Dear Parag, > > > > > >Namaste. > > > > > >AL in D-10 indicates how others perceive you in the > > area of career. However > > >I do not think that the dictum of Jaimini on the > > 3rd from AL in Rasi chart > > >will be applicable without change to the D-10. If > > we think oina broadre > > >sense, planets in 3rd from AL would indicate > > obstacles, difficulties, in > > >this case may indicate difficulties in career > > success arising from > > >government (Sun), conflicts (Mars) and servants > > (Saturn). The picture is > > >complicated by taking into consideration that > > planets in the 3rd obstruct > > >the argala given by planets in the 11th from AL, > > however if these are > > >malefics, as you have indicated, they will cause a > > Viparita argala, so the > > >circumstances which initially seem to be > > difficulties, turn out to be > > >helpful in the ned, alhtough this may involve the > > suffering of someone > > >else. > > > > > >Yours, > > > > > >Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > > gauranga@b... > > > Jyotish Remedies: > > >WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > > >- > > >"parag dharmadhikari" <dparagin> > > ><vedic astrology> > > >Wednesday, December 18, 2002 8:21 AM > > >Re: [vedic astrology] Re: AL in Dasamasa > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > In rashi chart 3rd from AL is Death indicater.So > > then > > > > what would 3rd from AL in dasamasa indicate. > > > > Does it indicate death of career. > > > > If there are sun,mars and saturn 3rd from AL in > > D-10 > > > > then what does it indicate. > > > > > > > > Kindly can one help. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Parag > > > > > > > > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. 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