Guest guest Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear members, Namaste. Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill effects of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as follows: Afflicted Treated Su Ve Mo Sa Ma Ra Me Ke Ju Su Ve Mo Sa Ma Ra Me Ke Ju I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 Dear Guaranga Das, Thanks for the information. However I have a related question: How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as mantra remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ? Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that most people tend to reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a language that they do not understand. Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome. Kind regards Jay Weiss - Gauranga Das vedic astrology Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear members, Namaste. Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill effects of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as follows: Afflicted Treated Su Ve Mo Sa Ma Ra Me Ke Ju Su Ve Mo Sa Ma Ra Me Ke Ju I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Gauranga, Thanx for a lovely meeting and conference in India. Just got back and am looking through the mails. Be abit weary with giving this list, because the use needs to be VERY carefully done. Example: I have Kaala Amrita Yoga in my chart, and using the list will give Jupiter as the remedy for Ketu. Recent experience was that i started getting heart problems when my Guru-worship increased, and i needed remedies to counter that. In this case Jupiter was dominating over Ketu and Ketu is practically dominating over my life, due to the Kaala Amrita Yoga caused by it. So be very careful. Another example is the Rahu-Merc combination where the Sarpa(Rahu) is removed by Garuda(Merc) who will catch the snakes. If your a snake, don't worship Garuda! Sri Krishna is also a very good remedy against Sarpa. This is also the basis of Sri Buddhas Incarnation... So what is the logic behind this? Try the Sat-Mars combination... We worship Hanuman(Mars) to get rid of Shani. The Vaara Chakra you've given, should be coupled with the Kaala Chakra to get the best results. In the Kaala Chakra, the planets opposite each other, will be able to cause the fall of the graha. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - Gauranga Das vedic astrology Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear members, Namaste. Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill effects of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as follows: Afflicted Treated Su Ve Mo Sa Ma Ra Me Ke Ju Su Ve Mo Sa Ma Ra Me Ke Ju I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 Dear Sir, Could you please explain the following: If your a snake, don't worship Garuda! With regards, Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Jagmeet, Snakes are lorded by Rahu, and Garuda will kill all snakes, hence kill Rahu. The line was just to make one understand the use of these remedies. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - jagmeet dheendsa vedic astrology Thursday, December 26, 2002 3:47 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets Dear Sir, Could you please explain the following: If your a snake, don't worship Garuda! With regards, JagmeetArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 Visti, I have a nephew with a Kaala Amrita Yoga. I am sending his chart with this. Do you have any comments on it? It is an interesting chart in that there is a raja yoga in the 4th with 1L and 5L. Also 4L and 5L are in parivartana. And then the 4th is aspected by 9L Jupiter and 10L saturn. However, in all this the 1L is neecha in the 4th though with some neechabhanga as it is aspected by the planet which is exalted there and also the ruler of the house where it would be exalted. My feeling is that this could be an unusually spiritual person, but he is only 19 yet, and a very young 19. A nice person, though. Regards, Nimmi - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:05 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets Hare Rama Krishna Dear Gauranga, Thanx for a lovely meeting and conference in India. Just got back and am looking through the mails. Be abit weary with giving this list, because the use needs to be VERY carefully done. Example: I have Kaala Amrita Yoga in my chart, and using the list will give Jupiter as the remedy for Ketu. Recent experience was that i started getting heart problems when my Guru-worship increased, and i needed remedies to counter that. In this case Jupiter was dominating over Ketu and Ketu is practically dominating over my life, due to the Kaala Amrita Yoga caused by it. So be very careful. Another example is the Rahu-Merc combination where the Sarpa(Rahu) is removed by Garuda(Merc) who will catch the snakes. If your a snake, don't worship Garuda! Sri Krishna is also a very good remedy against Sarpa. This is also the basis of Sri Buddhas Incarnation... So what is the logic behind this? Try the Sat-Mars combination... We worship Hanuman(Mars) to get rid of Shani. The Vaara Chakra you've given, should be coupled with the Kaala Chakra to get the best results. In the Kaala Chakra, the planets opposite each other, will be able to cause the fall of the graha. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - Gauranga Das vedic astrology Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear members, Namaste. Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill effects of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as follows: Afflicted Treated Su Ve Mo Sa Ma Ra Me Ke Ju Su Ve Mo Sa Ma Ra Me Ke Ju I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Johaan Weerasinghe.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 I am just a beginner level jyotish student, but wanted to state my opinions. These are based on my observations. Gurus please correct me if I am wrong. Mantras are vibrations based on certain sounds - you can create them in any language that has well defined phonetics. In fact, my native language is Tamil and most astrologers from my state(TN, India) suggest tamil mantras to natives seeking remedies, since most common folks cannot understand sanskrit mantras. There are tamil versions of mantras pertaining to each planet. My spiritual gurudev Yoganandaji also suggests the same. Infact, he gives subtle hints that it is better to pray and recite mantras in a language one can understand rather than blindly reciting sounds in an unfamiliar tongue. Yoganandaji composed english devotional poems that create a good spiritual vibrations when recited properly. The only problem with english is that it is not a phonetic language like Sanskrit or Tamil and it is difficult to expect people to pronounce english mantras in the same way as it is intended. Reg worship of hindu Gods for remedies, imho, it will not work if a non-hindu who is totally unaware of (let alone have faith in) Muruga or Hanuman is asked to worship those deities to propitiate Mars. I have watched the astro counselling sessions in Indian regional language astrlogical magazines for long. I could see a very good psychological counselling pattern. For example if one person is losing hope in life, and needs a protector, the astrologers suggest they worship Hanuman. If some person is fearful/meek and needs courage and aggressiveness - they (if the astrologer is from Tamil nadu) suggest worship of Karthikeya/Muruga. Astrologers from north suggest worship of Hanuman. In both cases, I noticed that Mars was the planet causing the trouble. What I am trying to say will be evident to people that know the puranic story of Hanuman (A loyal servent of Ram and known for hope, faith, valour, strength and courage) and Karthikeya (the son of Lord Shiva and commander of devas - known for aggression, courage and valour). When a person who has belief and faith in these Gods and knows their characteristics worship these Gods and thinks about them, it creates some psychological waves/thinking process that helps them overcome their current situation. That is why these remedies are totally ineffective if the person doesnt have real faith in that God or is not fully aware of the puranas behind those Gods. So it is imperative that remedial measures need to be suggested intelligently taking into account the language, mythology, faith system that is known to the native and in which the native has faith in. For example, a 10 syllable 4 word mantra with a specific meaning can be created by any person with grace of God and full understanding of what (s)he is doing. As Yoganandaji has demonstrated poems and mantras can be created in any language by men of God realization and they give the same effect. In some cases, it might be possible to ask the native to do a creative remedy that will probably achieve the same purpose as a traditional vedic remedy. For example, if vedic remedy suggests that a person worship Garuda, but the native is an American who doesnt have any idea of what Garuda is, the following remedy might be suggested: The native may be asked to meditate on the image of Eagle and recite a simple english mantra (which has the same no. of syllables, similar phonetics, no. of words, and meaning of the original sanskrit mantra). Finding such a mantra may not be an easy task for people without some spiritual progress through yoga or meditation. Still some words like Aum have to be used as such as they are single syllable words which have no equivalent in other languages. -Siva. vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > Dear Guaranga Das, > > Thanks for the information. However I have a related question: > > How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as mantra remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ? > Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that most people tend to reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a language that they do not understand. > > Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome. > > Kind regards > Jay Weiss > > - > Gauranga Das > vedic astrology > Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM > [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets > > > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear members, > > Namaste. > > Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill effects of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as follows: > > Afflicted Treated > > Su Ve > Mo Sa > Ma Ra > Me Ke > Ju Su > Ve Mo > Sa Ma > Ra Me > Ke Ju > > I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. > > More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time. > > Yours, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > gauranga@b... > Jyotish Remedies: > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2002 Report Share Posted December 27, 2002 I would like to add that while giving karmic explanation for the effects faced by the native (if he/she is unaware of eastern concept of Karma), to use the scriptures they are familiar with. For examples, Bible captures the whole essense of Karma with this simple statement: ::From The Bible, Galatians vi. 'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.':: Readers might want to refer to The Holy Science by Swami Yukteshwar Giri (the yogi that gave Yukteshwar ayanamsa) which gives many such paralles between Biblical thoughts and hindu scriptures. The natives will be more receptive to what they are hearing if they hear it in a context known to them. Probably thats what Maharishi Parasara said when he suggested people use jyotish (with its remedies) as per the context, country and age. The vedas also declare "Ekam sat vipraha bahudha vadanti" (Truth is one, wise call it in many names). A mantra with similar phonetics and meaning can be said in any language and any God can be used for a remedy as long as the native has faith in that God / angel and there is an appropriate mythology/purana behind it, that creates an subconscious effect when that God is worshipped. Whatever I said is based on my limited understanding. I am waiting for gurus like PVRji or Sanjayji to clarify things for better. -Siva. vedic astrology, "schinnas <schinnas>" <schinnas> wrote: > I am just a beginner level jyotish student, but wanted to state my > opinions. These are based on my observations. Gurus please correct > me if I am wrong. > > Mantras are vibrations based on certain sounds - you can create them > in any language that has well defined phonetics. In fact, my native > language is Tamil and most astrologers from my state(TN, India) > suggest tamil mantras to natives seeking remedies, since most common > folks cannot understand sanskrit mantras. There are tamil versions > of mantras pertaining to each planet. > > My spiritual gurudev Yoganandaji also suggests the same. Infact, he > gives subtle hints that it is better to pray and recite mantras in a > language one can understand rather than blindly reciting sounds in > an unfamiliar tongue. Yoganandaji composed english devotional poems > that create a good spiritual vibrations when recited properly. > > The only problem with english is that it is not a phonetic language > like Sanskrit or Tamil and it is difficult to expect people to > pronounce english mantras in the same way as it is intended. > > Reg worship of hindu Gods for remedies, imho, it will not work if a > non-hindu who is totally unaware of (let alone have faith in) Muruga > or Hanuman is asked to worship those deities to propitiate Mars. I > have watched the astro counselling sessions in Indian regional > language astrlogical magazines for long. I could see a very good > psychological counselling pattern. For example if one person is > losing hope in life, and needs a protector, the astrologers suggest > they worship Hanuman. If some person is fearful/meek and needs > courage and aggressiveness - they (if the astrologer is from Tamil > nadu) suggest worship of Karthikeya/Muruga. Astrologers from north > suggest worship of Hanuman. In both cases, I noticed that Mars was > the planet causing the trouble. > > What I am trying to say will be evident to people that know the > puranic story of Hanuman (A loyal servent of Ram and known for hope, > faith, valour, strength and courage) and Karthikeya (the son of Lord > Shiva and commander of devas - known for aggression, courage and > valour). When a person who has belief and faith in these Gods and > knows their characteristics worship these Gods and thinks about > them, it creates some psychological waves/thinking process that > helps them overcome their current situation. That is why these > remedies are totally ineffective if the person doesnt have real > faith in that God or is not fully aware of the puranas behind those > Gods. > > So it is imperative that remedial measures need to be suggested > intelligently taking into account the language, mythology, faith > system that is known to the native and in which the native has faith > in. For example, a 10 syllable 4 word mantra with a specific meaning > can be created by any person with grace of God and full > understanding of what (s)he is doing. As Yoganandaji has > demonstrated poems and mantras can be created in any language by men > of God realization and they give the same effect. > > In some cases, it might be possible to ask the native to do a > creative remedy that will probably achieve the same purpose as a > traditional vedic remedy. > > For example, if vedic remedy suggests that a person worship Garuda, > but the native is an American who doesnt have any idea of what > Garuda is, the following remedy might be suggested: The native may > be asked to meditate on the image of Eagle and recite a simple > english mantra (which has the same no. of syllables, similar > phonetics, no. of words, and meaning of the original sanskrit > mantra). Finding such a mantra may not be an easy task for people > without some spiritual progress through yoga or meditation. Still > some words like Aum have to be used as such as they are single > syllable words which have no equivalent in other languages. > > -Siva. > > vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...> > wrote: > > Dear Guaranga Das, > > > > Thanks for the information. However I have a related question: > > > > How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as mantra > remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign > cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ? > > Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that most > people tend to reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a > language that they do not understand. > > > > Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome. > > > > Kind regards > > Jay Weiss > > > > - > > Gauranga Das > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM > > [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets > > > > > > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > Dear members, > > > > Namaste. > > > > Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If > any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should > apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill effects > of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the > order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a > circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you > should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as > follows: > > > > Afflicted Treated > > > > Su Ve > > Mo Sa > > Ma Ra > > Me Ke > > Ju Su > > Ve Mo > > Sa Ma > > Ra Me > > Ke Ju > > > > I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. > > > > More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time. > > > > Yours, > > > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > gauranga@b... > > Jyotish Remedies: > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2002 Report Share Posted December 27, 2002 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Jay and members, Namaste. A few thoughts on applying remedies (which I would like to develop later on). 1. The question of propitiating Deities is of course closely connected to the native having faith in that Deity. This should be be examined by the astrologer. Also I agree with the principle that the native's own religion (christianity etc.) will also have Deeities representing the powers of the different planets. 2. If the native does not believe in Deities or mantras, we should not prescribe him things like that. You may suggest wearing a gemstone, using certain colours, numbers, giving donation characteristic of that planet etc. These things will also act as remedies. 3. Vedic Manrtras should be handed down through the parampara. So first the astrologer should see that the mantra he is distribunting is received by him from an authentic Guru Parampara. The szecond thing is that a Sattvic lifestyle is expected of those who are given mantras to chant. Not that I'm putting all kind of nonsense into my mouth and then chant the Gayatri mantra. This is higly disrespectful towards the Mantra Devata. This may sound strong but that's the truth. If we just use the Mantras as one would use a tissue paper, then don't expect any substantial results. But rest assured, proper remedies may be found for everyone regardless of his cultural background etc. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - Jay Weiss vedic astrology Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:37 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for planets Dear Guaranga Das, Thanks for the information. However I have a related question: How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as mantra remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ? Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that most people tend to reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a language that they do not understand. Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome. Kind regards Jay Weiss - Gauranga Das vedic astrology Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear members, Namaste. Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill effects of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as follows: Afflicted Treated Su Ve Mo Sa Ma Ra Me Ke Ju Su Ve Mo Sa Ma Ra Me Ke Ju I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2002 Report Share Posted December 27, 2002 Dear friends, In addition to what Shri Siva Ji has said,in one of the WCC tapes,Shri Sanjai Ji says that singing a mantra (even if some one is as tone deaf as I am)one gets better results then by chanting a mantra wrongly. With regards, Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2002 Report Share Posted December 27, 2002 Dear Guaranga Das, Thank you for your kind respond. I am truly glad to find that your way of thinking in this matter is very similar to mine and is definitely applicable in the region where I live (Sweden/Denmark). Kind regards Jay Weiss - Gauranga Das vedic astrology Friday, December 27, 2002 2:54 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for planets JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Jay and members, Namaste. A few thoughts on applying remedies (which I would like to develop later on). 1. The question of propitiating Deities is of course closely connected to the native having faith in that Deity. This should be be examined by the astrologer. Also I agree with the principle that the native's own religion (christianity etc.) will also have Deeities representing the powers of the different planets. 2. If the native does not believe in Deities or mantras, we should not prescribe him things like that. You may suggest wearing a gemstone, using certain colours, numbers, giving donation characteristic of that planet etc. These things will also act as remedies. 3. Vedic Manrtras should be handed down through the parampara. So first the astrologer should see that the mantra he is distribunting is received by him from an authentic Guru Parampara. The szecond thing is that a Sattvic lifestyle is expected of those who are given mantras to chant. Not that I'm putting all kind of nonsense into my mouth and then chant the Gayatri mantra. This is higly disrespectful towards the Mantra Devata. This may sound strong but that's the truth. If we just use the Mantras as one would use a tissue paper, then don't expect any substantial results. But rest assured, proper remedies may be found for everyone regardless of his cultural background etc. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - Jay Weiss vedic astrology Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:37 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for planets Dear Guaranga Das, Thanks for the information. However I have a related question: How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as mantra remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ? Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that most people tend to reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a language that they do not understand. Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome. Kind regards Jay Weiss - Gauranga Das vedic astrology Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear members, Namaste. Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill effects of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as follows: Afflicted Treated Su Ve Mo Sa Ma Ra Me Ke Ju Su Ve Mo Sa Ma Ra Me Ke Ju I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2002 Report Share Posted December 28, 2002 Vyam Vyasa-devaya Namah. Thank you, Guruji, for the correction/explanation. I have personally experienced the power of mantra. Whenever I am in a confused state (spiritually) and grope in the dark to understand what many enlightened rishis and yogis have said, reciting Gayatri mantra gave me its effects - I have tried it many times and found it working all the time. Infact, the more I receite Gayatri mantra, the more I am inclined to dwell into spirituality. It is too powerful a mantra, I must add. My theory was based on the idea that if a mantra can be written (by a person/yogi with divine blessings) in another language and can produce the same vibrations, it might give the same effect too. This is also based on my understanding/extrapolation of what Yoganandaji said. My extrapolation might very well be wrong. The example you pointed to clearly disproves my other theory that a person need to know the meaning or have belief in and see God in the form of the Lord referred to in the mantra (Eg a person may have to see God in the form of Lord Shiva/Thriyambageshwara for Mrityunjaya). Thank you again for the correction / clarification. -Siva. vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...> wrote: > > > ~om sri gurave namah~ > Dear Siva: > All theories fail in front of the great mantras in the Rig Veda. For example, a lady who does not understand any of the eastern languages, who was a christian and had no knowledge of hinduism, who never bothered about spirituality, was made to hear constant chanting of the mrityunjaya mantra when she was in bed. The words etc were totally meaningless for her. She recovered even after all doctors had declared her terminally ill with cancer, lived for 2 years before finally saying goodbye.. > So, what theory works? > Many hindu's go to the church at Goa and light candles for Mother Mary. Any idea what is happening out here, what is working? Does God have a religion? > Best regards, > Sanjay Rath > ---------------------- > Sri Jagannath Center, 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, Tel: 91-11-2713201, Web: http://.org http://srath.com > > schinnas <schinnas> [schinnas] > Friday, December 27, 2002 1:47 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for planets > > > I would like to add that while giving karmic explanation for the > effects faced by the native (if he/she is unaware of eastern concept > of Karma), to use the scriptures they are familiar with. For > examples, Bible captures the whole essense of Karma with this simple > statement: > ::From The Bible, Galatians vi. 'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall > he also reap.':: > > Readers might want to refer to The Holy Science by Swami Yukteshwar > Giri (the yogi that gave Yukteshwar ayanamsa) which gives many such > paralles between Biblical thoughts and hindu scriptures. The natives > will be more receptive to what they are hearing if they hear it in a > context known to them. Probably thats what Maharishi Parasara said > when he suggested people use jyotish (with its remedies) as per the > context, country and age. > > The vedas also declare "Ekam sat vipraha bahudha vadanti" (Truth is > one, wise call it in many names). A mantra with similar phonetics > and meaning can be said in any language and any God can be used for > a remedy as long as the native has faith in that God / angel and > there is an appropriate mythology/purana behind it, that creates an > subconscious effect when that God is worshipped. > > Whatever I said is based on my limited understanding. I am waiting > for gurus like PVRji or Sanjayji to clarify things for better. > > -Siva. > > vedic astrology, "schinnas <schinnas>" > <schinnas> wrote: > > I am just a beginner level jyotish student, but wanted to state > my > > opinions. These are based on my observations. Gurus please correct > > me if I am wrong. > > > > Mantras are vibrations based on certain sounds - you can create > them > > in any language that has well defined phonetics. In fact, my > native > > language is Tamil and most astrologers from my state(TN, India) > > suggest tamil mantras to natives seeking remedies, since most > common > > folks cannot understand sanskrit mantras. There are tamil versions > > of mantras pertaining to each planet. > > > > My spiritual gurudev Yoganandaji also suggests the same. Infact, > he > > gives subtle hints that it is better to pray and recite mantras in > a > > language one can understand rather than blindly reciting sounds in > > an unfamiliar tongue. Yoganandaji composed english devotional > poems > > that create a good spiritual vibrations when recited properly. > > > > The only problem with english is that it is not a phonetic > language > > like Sanskrit or Tamil and it is difficult to expect people to > > pronounce english mantras in the same way as it is intended. > > > > Reg worship of hindu Gods for remedies, imho, it will not work if > a > > non-hindu who is totally unaware of (let alone have faith in) > Muruga > > or Hanuman is asked to worship those deities to propitiate Mars. I > > have watched the astro counselling sessions in Indian regional > > language astrlogical magazines for long. I could see a very good > > psychological counselling pattern. For example if one person is > > losing hope in life, and needs a protector, the astrologers > suggest > > they worship Hanuman. If some person is fearful/meek and needs > > courage and aggressiveness - they (if the astrologer is from Tamil > > nadu) suggest worship of Karthikeya/Muruga. Astrologers from north > > suggest worship of Hanuman. In both cases, I noticed that Mars was > > the planet causing the trouble. > > > > What I am trying to say will be evident to people that know the > > puranic story of Hanuman (A loyal servent of Ram and known for > hope, > > faith, valour, strength and courage) and Karthikeya (the son of > Lord > > Shiva and commander of devas - known for aggression, courage and > > valour). When a person who has belief and faith in these Gods and > > knows their characteristics worship these Gods and thinks about > > them, it creates some psychological waves/thinking process that > > helps them overcome their current situation. That is why these > > remedies are totally ineffective if the person doesnt have real > > faith in that God or is not fully aware of the puranas behind > those > > Gods. > > > > So it is imperative that remedial measures need to be suggested > > intelligently taking into account the language, mythology, faith > > system that is known to the native and in which the native has > faith > > in. For example, a 10 syllable 4 word mantra with a specific > meaning > > can be created by any person with grace of God and full > > understanding of what (s)he is doing. As Yoganandaji has > > demonstrated poems and mantras can be created in any language by > men > > of God realization and they give the same effect. > > > > In some cases, it might be possible to ask the native to do a > > creative remedy that will probably achieve the same purpose as a > > traditional vedic remedy. > > > > For example, if vedic remedy suggests that a person worship > Garuda, > > but the native is an American who doesnt have any idea of what > > Garuda is, the following remedy might be suggested: The native may > > be asked to meditate on the image of Eagle and recite a simple > > english mantra (which has the same no. of syllables, similar > > phonetics, no. of words, and meaning of the original sanskrit > > mantra). Finding such a mantra may not be an easy task for people > > without some spiritual progress through yoga or meditation. Still > > some words like Aum have to be used as such as they are single > > syllable words which have no equivalent in other languages. > > > > -Siva. > > > > vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...> > > wrote: > > > Dear Guaranga Das, > > > > > > Thanks for the information. However I have a related question: > > > > > > How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as > mantra > > remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign > > cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ? > > > Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that most > > people tend to reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a > > language that they do not understand. > > > > > > Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > Jay Weiss > > > > > > - > > > Gauranga Das > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM > > > [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets > > > > > > > > > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If > > any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should > > apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill effects > > of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the > > order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a > > circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you > > should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as > > follows: > > > > > > Afflicted Treated > > > > > > Su Ve > > > Mo Sa > > > Ma Ra > > > Me Ke > > > Ju Su > > > Ve Mo > > > Sa Ma > > > Ra Me > > > Ke Ju > > > > > > I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. > > > > > > More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time. > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > > gauranga@b... > > > Jyotish Remedies: > > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 28, 2002 Report Share Posted December 28, 2002 respected guruji, it is very well said. tvrao - Sanjay Rath vedic astrology Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:36 PM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for planets ~om sri gurave namah~ Dear Siva: All theories fail in front of the great mantras in the Rig Veda. For example, a lady who does not understand any of the eastern languages, who was a christian and had no knowledge of hinduism, who never bothered about spirituality, was made to hear constant chanting of the mrityunjaya mantra when she was in bed. The words etc were totally meaningless for her. She recovered even after all doctors had declared her terminally ill with cancer, lived for 2 years before finally saying goodbye.. So, what theory works? Many hindu's go to the church at Goa and light candles for Mother Mary. Any idea what is happening out here, what is working? Does God have a religion? Best regards, Sanjay Rath ---------------------- Sri Jagannath Center, 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, Tel: 91-11-2713201, Web: http://.org http://srath.com schinnas <schinnas > [schinnas ]Friday, December 27, 2002 1:47 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for planetsI would like to add that while giving karmic explanation for the effects faced by the native (if he/she is unaware of eastern concept of Karma), to use the scriptures they are familiar with. For examples, Bible captures the whole essense of Karma with this simple statement:::From The Bible, Galatians vi. 'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'::Readers might want to refer to The Holy Science by Swami Yukteshwar Giri (the yogi that gave Yukteshwar ayanamsa) which gives many such paralles between Biblical thoughts and hindu scriptures. The natives will be more receptive to what they are hearing if they hear it in a context known to them. Probably thats what Maharishi Parasara said when he suggested people use jyotish (with its remedies) as per the context, country and age.The vedas also declare "Ekam sat vipraha bahudha vadanti" (Truth is one, wise call it in many names). A mantra with similar phonetics and meaning can be said in any language and any God can be used for a remedy as long as the native has faith in that God / angel and there is an appropriate mythology/purana behind it, that creates an subconscious effect when that God is worshipped.Whatever I said is based on my limited understanding. I am waiting for gurus like PVRji or Sanjayji to clarify things for better.-Siva.vedic astrology, "schinnas <schinnas>" <schinnas> wrote:> I am just a beginner level jyotish student, but wanted to state my > opinions. These are based on my observations. Gurus please correct > me if I am wrong.> > Mantras are vibrations based on certain sounds - you can create them > in any language that has well defined phonetics. In fact, my native > language is Tamil and most astrologers from my state(TN, India) > suggest tamil mantras to natives seeking remedies, since most common > folks cannot understand sanskrit mantras. There are tamil versions > of mantras pertaining to each planet.> > My spiritual gurudev Yoganandaji also suggests the same. Infact, he > gives subtle hints that it is better to pray and recite mantras in a > language one can understand rather than blindly reciting sounds in > an unfamiliar tongue. Yoganandaji composed english devotional poems > that create a good spiritual vibrations when recited properly.> > The only problem with english is that it is not a phonetic language > like Sanskrit or Tamil and it is difficult to expect people to > pronounce english mantras in the same way as it is intended. > > Reg worship of hindu Gods for remedies, imho, it will not work if a > non-hindu who is totally unaware of (let alone have faith in) Muruga > or Hanuman is asked to worship those deities to propitiate Mars. I > have watched the astro counselling sessions in Indian regional > language astrlogical magazines for long. I could see a very good > psychological counselling pattern. For example if one person is > losing hope in life, and needs a protector, the astrologers suggest > they worship Hanuman. If some person is fearful/meek and needs > courage and aggressiveness - they (if the astrologer is from Tamil > nadu) suggest worship of Karthikeya/Muruga. Astrologers from north > suggest worship of Hanuman. In both cases, I noticed that Mars was > the planet causing the trouble.> > What I am trying to say will be evident to people that know the > puranic story of Hanuman (A loyal servent of Ram and known for hope, > faith, valour, strength and courage) and Karthikeya (the son of Lord > Shiva and commander of devas - known for aggression, courage and > valour). When a person who has belief and faith in these Gods and > knows their characteristics worship these Gods and thinks about > them, it creates some psychological waves/thinking process that > helps them overcome their current situation. That is why these > remedies are totally ineffective if the person doesnt have real > faith in that God or is not fully aware of the puranas behind those > Gods.> > So it is imperative that remedial measures need to be suggested > intelligently taking into account the language, mythology, faith > system that is known to the native and in which the native has faith > in. For example, a 10 syllable 4 word mantra with a specific meaning > can be created by any person with grace of God and full > understanding of what (s)he is doing. As Yoganandaji has > demonstrated poems and mantras can be created in any language by men > of God realization and they give the same effect. > > In some cases, it might be possible to ask the native to do a > creative remedy that will probably achieve the same purpose as a > traditional vedic remedy.> > For example, if vedic remedy suggests that a person worship Garuda, > but the native is an American who doesnt have any idea of what > Garuda is, the following remedy might be suggested: The native may > be asked to meditate on the image of Eagle and recite a simple > english mantra (which has the same no. of syllables, similar > phonetics, no. of words, and meaning of the original sanskrit > mantra). Finding such a mantra may not be an easy task for people > without some spiritual progress through yoga or meditation. Still > some words like Aum have to be used as such as they are single > syllable words which have no equivalent in other languages.> > -Siva.> > vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...> > wrote:> > Dear Guaranga Das,> > > > Thanks for the information. However I have a related question:> > > > How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as mantra > remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign > cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ?> > Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that most > people tend to reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a > language that they do not understand. > > > > Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome.> > > > Kind regards> > Jay Weiss> > > > - > > Gauranga Das > > vedic astrology > > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM> > [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets> > > > > > JAYA JAGANNATHA!> > > > Dear members,> > > > Namaste.> > > > Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If > any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should > apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill effects > of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the > order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a > circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you > should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as > follows:> > > > Afflicted Treated> > > > Su Ve> > Mo Sa> > Ma Ra> > Me Ke> > Ju Su> > Ve Mo> > Sa Ma> > Ra Me> > Ke Ju> > > > I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. > > > > More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time.> > > > Yours,> > > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer> > gauranga@b...> > Jyotish Remedies:> > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET> > Phone:+36-309-140-839> > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Namaste Sri Sanjayji, I am very much thankful to you for such comments.As You said really worked in one of my colleague's case also. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Sanjay Rath <srath (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote: ~om sri gurave namah~ Dear Siva: All theories fail in front of the great mantras in the Rig Veda. For example, a lady who does not understand any of the eastern languages, who was a christian and had no knowledge of hinduism, who never bothered about spirituality, was made to hear constant chanting of the mrityunjaya mantra when she was in bed. The words etc were totally meaningless for her. She recovered even after all doctors had declared her terminally ill with cancer, lived for 2 years before finally saying goodbye.. So, what theory works? Many hindu's go to the church at Goa and light candles for Mother Mary. Any idea what is happening out here, what is working? Does God have a religion? Best regards, Sanjay Rath ---------------------- Sri Jagannath Center, 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, Tel: 91-11-2713201, Web: http://.org http://srath.com schinnas <schinnas > [schinnas ]Friday, December 27, 2002 1:47 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for planetsI would like to add that while giving karmic explanation for the effects faced by the native (if he/she is unaware of eastern concept of Karma), to use the scriptures they are familiar with. For examples, Bible captures the whole essense of Karma with this simple statement:::From The Bible, Galatians vi. 'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'::Readers might want to refer to The Holy Science by Swami Yukteshwar Giri (the yogi that gave Yukteshwar ayanamsa) which gives many such paralles between Biblical thoughts and hindu scriptures. The natives will be more receptive to what they are hearing if they hear it in a context known to them. Probably thats what Maharishi Parasara said when he suggested people use jyotish (with its remedies) as per the context, country and age.The vedas also declare "Ekam sat vipraha bahudha vadanti" (Truth is one, wise call it in many names). A mantra with similar phonetics and meaning can be said in any language and any God can be used for a remedy as long as the native has faith in that God / angel and there is an appropriate mythology/purana behind it, that creates an subconscious effect when that God is worshipped.Whatever I said is based on my limited understanding. I am waiting for gurus like PVRji or Sanjayji to clarify things for better.-Siva.vedic astrology, "schinnas <schinnas>" <schinnas> wrote:> I am just a beginner level jyotish student, but wanted to state my > opinions. These are based on my observations. Gurus please correct > me if I am wrong.> > Mantras are vibrations based on certain sounds - you can create them > in any language that has well defined phonetics. In fact, my native > language is Tamil and most astrologers from my state(TN, India) > suggest tamil mantras to natives seeking remedies, since most common > folks cannot understand sanskrit mantras. There are tamil versions > of mantras pertaining to each planet.> > My spiritual gurudev Yoganandaji also suggests the same. Infact, he > gives subtle hints that it is better to pray and recite mantras in a > language one can understand rather than blindly reciting sounds in > an unfamiliar tongue. Yoganandaji composed english devotional poems > that create a good spiritual vibrations when recited properly.> > The only problem with english is that it is not a phonetic language > like Sanskrit or Tamil and it is difficult to expect people to > pronounce english mantras in the same way as it is intended. > > Reg worship of hindu Gods for remedies, imho, it will not work if a > non-hindu who is totally unaware of (let alone have faith in) Muruga > or Hanuman is asked to worship those deities to propitiate Mars. I > have watched the astro counselling sessions in Indian regional > language astrlogical magazines for long. I could see a very good > psychological counselling pattern. For example if one person is > losing hope in life, and needs a protector, the astrologers suggest > they worship Hanuman. If some person is fearful/meek and needs > courage and aggressiveness - they (if the astrologer is from Tamil > nadu) suggest worship of Karthikeya/Muruga. Astrologers from north > suggest worship of Hanuman. In both cases, I noticed that Mars was > the planet causing the trouble.> > What I am trying to say will be evident to people that know the > puranic story of Hanuman (A loyal servent of Ram and known for hope, > faith, valour, strength and courage) and Karthikeya (the son of Lord > Shiva and commander of devas - known for aggression, courage and > valour). When a person who has belief and faith in these Gods and > knows their characteristics worship these Gods and thinks about > them, it creates some psychological waves/thinking process that > helps them overcome their current situation. That is why these > remedies are totally ineffective if the person doesnt have real > faith in that God or is not fully aware of the puranas behind those > Gods.> > So it is imperative that remedial measures need to be suggested > intelligently taking into account the language, mythology, faith > system that is known to the native and in which the native has faith > in. For example, a 10 syllable 4 word mantra with a specific meaning > can be created by any person with grace of God and full > understanding of what (s)he is doing. As Yoganandaji has > demonstrated poems and mantras can be created in any language by men > of God realization and they give the same effect. > > In some cases, it might be possible to ask the native to do a > creative remedy that will probably achieve the same purpose as a > traditional vedic remedy.> > For example, if vedic remedy suggests that a person worship Garuda, > but the native is an American who doesnt have any idea of what > Garuda is, the following remedy might be suggested: The native may > be asked to meditate on the image of Eagle and recite a simple > english mantra (which has the same no. of syllables, similar > phonetics, no. of words, and meaning of the original sanskrit > mantra). Finding such a mantra may not be an easy task for people > without some spiritual progress through yoga or meditation. Still > some words like Aum have to be used as such as they are single > syllable words which have no equivalent in other languages.> > -Siva.> > vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...> > wrote:> > Dear Guaranga Das,> > > > Thanks for the information. However I have a related question:> > > > How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as mantra > remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign > cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ?> > Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that most > people tend to reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a > language that they do not understand. > > > > Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome.> > > > Kind regards> > Jay Weiss> > > > - > > Gauranga Das > > vedic astrology > > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM> > [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets> > > > > > JAYA JAGANNATHA!> > > > Dear members,> > > > Namaste.> > > > Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If > any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should > apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill effects > of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the > order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a > circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you > should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as > follows:> > > > Afflicted Treated> > > > Su Ve> > Mo Sa> > Ma Ra> > Me Ke> > Ju Su> > Ve Mo> > Sa Ma> > Ra Me> > Ke Ju> > > > I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. > > > > More later. 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