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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear members,

 

Namaste.

 

Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If any planet is

causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should apply remedies for another

planet which will fight the ill effects of this one. The scheme is as follows:

Write the planets in the order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu.

Write them in a circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet

you should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as follows:

 

Afflicted Treated

 

Su Ve

Mo Sa

Ma Ra

Me Ke

Ju Su

Ve Mo

Sa Ma

Ra Me

Ke Ju

 

I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me.

 

More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839

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Dear Guaranga Das,

 

Thanks for the information. However I have a related question:

 

How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as mantra remedies) to

people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign cultural methods", which

is the case in most western societies ?

Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that most people tend to

reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a language that they do not

understand.

 

Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome.

 

Kind regards

Jay Weiss

 

-

Gauranga Das

vedic astrology

Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM

[vedic astrology] Upayas for planets

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear members,

 

Namaste.

 

Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If any planet is

causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should apply remedies for another

planet which will fight the ill effects of this one. The scheme is as follows:

Write the planets in the order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu.

Write them in a circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet

you should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as follows:

 

Afflicted Treated

 

Su Ve

Mo Sa

Ma Ra

Me Ke

Ju Su

Ve Mo

Sa Ma

Ra Me

Ke Ju

 

I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me.

 

More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839Archives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Gauranga,

Thanx for a lovely meeting and conference in India. Just got back and am looking through the mails.

 

 

Be abit weary with giving this list, because the use needs to be VERY carefully done.

 

Example: I have Kaala Amrita Yoga in my chart, and using the list will give

Jupiter as the remedy for Ketu. Recent experience was that i started getting

heart problems when my Guru-worship increased, and i needed remedies to counter

that. In this case Jupiter was dominating over Ketu and Ketu is practically

dominating over my life, due to the Kaala Amrita Yoga caused by it.

 

So be very careful. Another example is the Rahu-Merc combination where the

Sarpa(Rahu) is removed by Garuda(Merc) who will catch the snakes.

If your a snake, don't worship Garuda!

Sri Krishna is also a very good remedy against Sarpa.

This is also the basis of Sri Buddhas Incarnation...

 

So what is the logic behind this? Try the Sat-Mars combination... We worship

Hanuman(Mars) to get rid of Shani.

 

The Vaara Chakra you've given, should be coupled with the Kaala Chakra to get

the best results. In the Kaala Chakra, the planets opposite each other, will be

able to cause the fall of the graha.

 

Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat

Parasara Hora Shastra:

vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html

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Gauranga Das

vedic astrology

Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM

[vedic astrology] Upayas for planets

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear members,

 

Namaste.

 

Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If any planet is

causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should apply remedies for another

planet which will fight the ill effects of this one. The scheme is as follows:

Write the planets in the order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu.

Write them in a circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet

you should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as follows:

 

Afflicted Treated

 

Su Ve

Mo Sa

Ma Ra

Me Ke

Ju Su

Ve Mo

Sa Ma

Ra Me

Ke Ju

 

I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me.

 

More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839Archives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Jagmeet,

Snakes are lorded by Rahu, and Garuda will kill all snakes, hence kill Rahu.

 

The line was just to make one understand the use of these remedies.

 

Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat

Parasara Hora Shastra:

vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html

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jagmeet dheendsa

vedic astrology

Thursday, December 26, 2002 3:47 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets

Dear Sir,

Could you please explain the following:

 

If your a snake, don't worship Garuda!

 

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Visti,

 

I have a nephew with a Kaala Amrita Yoga. I am sending his chart with this. Do

you have any comments on it?

 

It is an interesting chart in that there is a raja yoga in the 4th with 1L and

5L. Also 4L and 5L are in parivartana. And then the 4th is aspected by 9L

Jupiter and 10L saturn. However, in all this the 1L is neecha in the 4th though

with some neechabhanga as it is aspected by the planet which is exalted there

and also the ruler of the house where it would be exalted.

 

My feeling is that this could be an unusually spiritual person, but he is only

19 yet, and a very young 19. A nice person, though.

 

Regards,

 

Nimmi

 

-

Visti Larsen

vedic astrology

Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Gauranga,

Thanx for a lovely meeting and conference in India. Just got back and am looking through the mails.

 

 

Be abit weary with giving this list, because the use needs to be VERY carefully done.

 

Example: I have Kaala Amrita Yoga in my chart, and using the list will give

Jupiter as the remedy for Ketu. Recent experience was that i started getting

heart problems when my Guru-worship increased, and i needed remedies to counter

that. In this case Jupiter was dominating over Ketu and Ketu is practically

dominating over my life, due to the Kaala Amrita Yoga caused by it.

 

So be very careful. Another example is the Rahu-Merc combination where the

Sarpa(Rahu) is removed by Garuda(Merc) who will catch the snakes.

If your a snake, don't worship Garuda!

Sri Krishna is also a very good remedy against Sarpa.

This is also the basis of Sri Buddhas Incarnation...

 

So what is the logic behind this? Try the Sat-Mars combination... We worship

Hanuman(Mars) to get rid of Shani.

 

The Vaara Chakra you've given, should be coupled with the Kaala Chakra to get

the best results. In the Kaala Chakra, the planets opposite each other, will be

able to cause the fall of the graha.

 

Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat

Parasara Hora Shastra:

vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html

-

Gauranga Das

vedic astrology

Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM

[vedic astrology] Upayas for planets

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear members,

 

Namaste.

 

Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If any planet is

causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should apply remedies for another

planet which will fight the ill effects of this one. The scheme is as follows:

Write the planets in the order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu.

Write them in a circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet

you should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as follows:

 

Afflicted Treated

 

Su Ve

Mo Sa

Ma Ra

Me Ke

Ju Su

Ve Mo

Sa Ma

Ra Me

Ke Ju

 

I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me.

 

More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

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I am just a beginner level jyotish student, but wanted to state my

opinions. These are based on my observations. Gurus please correct

me if I am wrong.

 

Mantras are vibrations based on certain sounds - you can create them

in any language that has well defined phonetics. In fact, my native

language is Tamil and most astrologers from my state(TN, India)

suggest tamil mantras to natives seeking remedies, since most common

folks cannot understand sanskrit mantras. There are tamil versions

of mantras pertaining to each planet.

 

My spiritual gurudev Yoganandaji also suggests the same. Infact, he

gives subtle hints that it is better to pray and recite mantras in a

language one can understand rather than blindly reciting sounds in

an unfamiliar tongue. Yoganandaji composed english devotional poems

that create a good spiritual vibrations when recited properly.

 

The only problem with english is that it is not a phonetic language

like Sanskrit or Tamil and it is difficult to expect people to

pronounce english mantras in the same way as it is intended.

 

Reg worship of hindu Gods for remedies, imho, it will not work if a

non-hindu who is totally unaware of (let alone have faith in) Muruga

or Hanuman is asked to worship those deities to propitiate Mars. I

have watched the astro counselling sessions in Indian regional

language astrlogical magazines for long. I could see a very good

psychological counselling pattern. For example if one person is

losing hope in life, and needs a protector, the astrologers suggest

they worship Hanuman. If some person is fearful/meek and needs

courage and aggressiveness - they (if the astrologer is from Tamil

nadu) suggest worship of Karthikeya/Muruga. Astrologers from north

suggest worship of Hanuman. In both cases, I noticed that Mars was

the planet causing the trouble.

 

What I am trying to say will be evident to people that know the

puranic story of Hanuman (A loyal servent of Ram and known for hope,

faith, valour, strength and courage) and Karthikeya (the son of Lord

Shiva and commander of devas - known for aggression, courage and

valour). When a person who has belief and faith in these Gods and

knows their characteristics worship these Gods and thinks about

them, it creates some psychological waves/thinking process that

helps them overcome their current situation. That is why these

remedies are totally ineffective if the person doesnt have real

faith in that God or is not fully aware of the puranas behind those

Gods.

 

So it is imperative that remedial measures need to be suggested

intelligently taking into account the language, mythology, faith

system that is known to the native and in which the native has faith

in. For example, a 10 syllable 4 word mantra with a specific meaning

can be created by any person with grace of God and full

understanding of what (s)he is doing. As Yoganandaji has

demonstrated poems and mantras can be created in any language by men

of God realization and they give the same effect.

 

In some cases, it might be possible to ask the native to do a

creative remedy that will probably achieve the same purpose as a

traditional vedic remedy.

 

For example, if vedic remedy suggests that a person worship Garuda,

but the native is an American who doesnt have any idea of what

Garuda is, the following remedy might be suggested: The native may

be asked to meditate on the image of Eagle and recite a simple

english mantra (which has the same no. of syllables, similar

phonetics, no. of words, and meaning of the original sanskrit

mantra). Finding such a mantra may not be an easy task for people

without some spiritual progress through yoga or meditation. Still

some words like Aum have to be used as such as they are single

syllable words which have no equivalent in other languages.

 

-Siva.

 

vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...>

wrote:

> Dear Guaranga Das,

>

> Thanks for the information. However I have a related question:

>

> How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as mantra

remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign

cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ?

> Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that most

people tend to reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a

language that they do not understand.

>

> Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome.

>

> Kind regards

> Jay Weiss

>

> -

> Gauranga Das

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM

> [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets

>

>

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear members,

>

> Namaste.

>

> Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If

any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should

apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill effects

of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the

order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a

circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you

should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as

follows:

>

> Afflicted Treated

>

> Su Ve

> Mo Sa

> Ma Ra

> Me Ke

> Ju Su

> Ve Mo

> Sa Ma

> Ra Me

> Ke Ju

>

> I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me.

>

> More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga@b...

> Jyotish Remedies:

> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> Phone:+36-309-140-839

>

>

>

>

> Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

 

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Terms of

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I would like to add that while giving karmic explanation for the

effects faced by the native (if he/she is unaware of eastern concept

of Karma), to use the scriptures they are familiar with. For

examples, Bible captures the whole essense of Karma with this simple

statement:

::From The Bible, Galatians vi. 'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall

he also reap.'::

 

Readers might want to refer to The Holy Science by Swami Yukteshwar

Giri (the yogi that gave Yukteshwar ayanamsa) which gives many such

paralles between Biblical thoughts and hindu scriptures. The natives

will be more receptive to what they are hearing if they hear it in a

context known to them. Probably thats what Maharishi Parasara said

when he suggested people use jyotish (with its remedies) as per the

context, country and age.

 

The vedas also declare "Ekam sat vipraha bahudha vadanti" (Truth is

one, wise call it in many names). A mantra with similar phonetics

and meaning can be said in any language and any God can be used for

a remedy as long as the native has faith in that God / angel and

there is an appropriate mythology/purana behind it, that creates an

subconscious effect when that God is worshipped.

 

Whatever I said is based on my limited understanding. I am waiting

for gurus like PVRji or Sanjayji to clarify things for better.

 

-Siva.

 

vedic astrology, "schinnas <schinnas>"

<schinnas> wrote:

> I am just a beginner level jyotish student, but wanted to state

my

> opinions. These are based on my observations. Gurus please correct

> me if I am wrong.

>

> Mantras are vibrations based on certain sounds - you can create

them

> in any language that has well defined phonetics. In fact, my

native

> language is Tamil and most astrologers from my state(TN, India)

> suggest tamil mantras to natives seeking remedies, since most

common

> folks cannot understand sanskrit mantras. There are tamil versions

> of mantras pertaining to each planet.

>

> My spiritual gurudev Yoganandaji also suggests the same. Infact,

he

> gives subtle hints that it is better to pray and recite mantras in

a

> language one can understand rather than blindly reciting sounds in

> an unfamiliar tongue. Yoganandaji composed english devotional

poems

> that create a good spiritual vibrations when recited properly.

>

> The only problem with english is that it is not a phonetic

language

> like Sanskrit or Tamil and it is difficult to expect people to

> pronounce english mantras in the same way as it is intended.

>

> Reg worship of hindu Gods for remedies, imho, it will not work if

a

> non-hindu who is totally unaware of (let alone have faith in)

Muruga

> or Hanuman is asked to worship those deities to propitiate Mars. I

> have watched the astro counselling sessions in Indian regional

> language astrlogical magazines for long. I could see a very good

> psychological counselling pattern. For example if one person is

> losing hope in life, and needs a protector, the astrologers

suggest

> they worship Hanuman. If some person is fearful/meek and needs

> courage and aggressiveness - they (if the astrologer is from Tamil

> nadu) suggest worship of Karthikeya/Muruga. Astrologers from north

> suggest worship of Hanuman. In both cases, I noticed that Mars was

> the planet causing the trouble.

>

> What I am trying to say will be evident to people that know the

> puranic story of Hanuman (A loyal servent of Ram and known for

hope,

> faith, valour, strength and courage) and Karthikeya (the son of

Lord

> Shiva and commander of devas - known for aggression, courage and

> valour). When a person who has belief and faith in these Gods and

> knows their characteristics worship these Gods and thinks about

> them, it creates some psychological waves/thinking process that

> helps them overcome their current situation. That is why these

> remedies are totally ineffective if the person doesnt have real

> faith in that God or is not fully aware of the puranas behind

those

> Gods.

>

> So it is imperative that remedial measures need to be suggested

> intelligently taking into account the language, mythology, faith

> system that is known to the native and in which the native has

faith

> in. For example, a 10 syllable 4 word mantra with a specific

meaning

> can be created by any person with grace of God and full

> understanding of what (s)he is doing. As Yoganandaji has

> demonstrated poems and mantras can be created in any language by

men

> of God realization and they give the same effect.

>

> In some cases, it might be possible to ask the native to do a

> creative remedy that will probably achieve the same purpose as a

> traditional vedic remedy.

>

> For example, if vedic remedy suggests that a person worship

Garuda,

> but the native is an American who doesnt have any idea of what

> Garuda is, the following remedy might be suggested: The native may

> be asked to meditate on the image of Eagle and recite a simple

> english mantra (which has the same no. of syllables, similar

> phonetics, no. of words, and meaning of the original sanskrit

> mantra). Finding such a mantra may not be an easy task for people

> without some spiritual progress through yoga or meditation. Still

> some words like Aum have to be used as such as they are single

> syllable words which have no equivalent in other languages.

>

> -Siva.

>

> vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...>

> wrote:

> > Dear Guaranga Das,

> >

> > Thanks for the information. However I have a related question:

> >

> > How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as

mantra

> remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign

> cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ?

> > Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that most

> people tend to reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a

> language that they do not understand.

> >

> > Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome.

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Jay Weiss

> >

> > -

> > Gauranga Das

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets

> >

> >

> > JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> >

> > Dear members,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If

> any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should

> apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill effects

> of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the

> order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a

> circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you

> should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as

> follows:

> >

> > Afflicted Treated

> >

> > Su Ve

> > Mo Sa

> > Ma Ra

> > Me Ke

> > Ju Su

> > Ve Mo

> > Sa Ma

> > Ra Me

> > Ke Ju

> >

> > I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me.

> >

> > More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time.

> >

> > Yours,

> >

> > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> > gauranga@b...

> > Jyotish Remedies:

> > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> > Phone:+36-309-140-839

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> >

> >

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Jay and members,

 

Namaste.

 

A few thoughts on applying remedies (which I would like to develop later on).

 

1. The question of propitiating Deities is of course closely connected to the

native having faith in that Deity. This should be be examined by the

astrologer. Also I agree with the principle that the native's own religion

(christianity etc.) will also have Deeities representing the powers of the

different planets.

 

2. If the native does not believe in Deities or mantras, we should not prescribe

him things like that. You may suggest wearing a gemstone, using certain colours,

numbers, giving donation characteristic of that planet etc. These things will

also act as remedies.

 

3. Vedic Manrtras should be handed down through the parampara. So first the

astrologer should see that the mantra he is distribunting is received by him

from an authentic Guru Parampara. The szecond thing is that a Sattvic lifestyle

is expected of those who are given mantras to chant. Not that I'm putting all

kind of nonsense into my mouth and then chant the Gayatri mantra. This is higly

disrespectful towards the Mantra Devata. This may sound strong but that's the

truth. If we just use the Mantras as one would use a tissue paper, then don't

expect any substantial results.

 

But rest assured, proper remedies may be found for everyone regardless of his

cultural background etc.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839

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Jay Weiss

vedic astrology

Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:37 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for planets

Dear Guaranga Das,

 

Thanks for the information. However I have a related question:

 

How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as mantra remedies) to

people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign cultural methods", which

is the case in most western societies ?

Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that most people tend to

reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a language that they do not

understand.

 

Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome.

 

Kind regards

Jay Weiss

 

-

Gauranga Das

vedic astrology

Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM

[vedic astrology] Upayas for planets

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear members,

 

Namaste.

 

Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If any planet is

causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should apply remedies for another

planet which will fight the ill effects of this one. The scheme is as follows:

Write the planets in the order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu.

Write them in a circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet

you should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as follows:

 

Afflicted Treated

 

Su Ve

Mo Sa

Ma Ra

Me Ke

Ju Su

Ve Mo

Sa Ma

Ra Me

Ke Ju

 

I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me.

 

More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

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Dear friends,

In addition to what Shri Siva Ji has said,in one of the WCC tapes,Shri

Sanjai Ji says that singing a mantra (even if some one is as tone deaf as

I am)one gets better results then by chanting a mantra wrongly.

With regards,

Jagmeet

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Dear Guaranga Das,

 

Thank you for your kind respond.

 

I am truly glad to find that your way of thinking in this matter is very

similar to mine and is definitely applicable in the region where I live

(Sweden/Denmark).

 

Kind regards

Jay Weiss

 

 

-

Gauranga Das

vedic astrology

Friday, December 27, 2002 2:54 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for planets

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Jay and members,

 

Namaste.

 

A few thoughts on applying remedies (which I would like to develop later on).

 

1. The question of propitiating Deities is of course closely connected to the

native having faith in that Deity. This should be be examined by the

astrologer. Also I agree with the principle that the native's own religion

(christianity etc.) will also have Deeities representing the powers of the

different planets.

 

2. If the native does not believe in Deities or mantras, we should not prescribe

him things like that. You may suggest wearing a gemstone, using certain colours,

numbers, giving donation characteristic of that planet etc. These things will

also act as remedies.

 

3. Vedic Manrtras should be handed down through the parampara. So first the

astrologer should see that the mantra he is distribunting is received by him

from an authentic Guru Parampara. The szecond thing is that a Sattvic lifestyle

is expected of those who are given mantras to chant. Not that I'm putting all

kind of nonsense into my mouth and then chant the Gayatri mantra. This is higly

disrespectful towards the Mantra Devata. This may sound strong but that's the

truth. If we just use the Mantras as one would use a tissue paper, then don't

expect any substantial results.

 

But rest assured, proper remedies may be found for everyone regardless of his

cultural background etc.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839

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Jay Weiss

vedic astrology

Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:37 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for planets

Dear Guaranga Das,

 

Thanks for the information. However I have a related question:

 

How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as mantra remedies) to

people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign cultural methods", which

is the case in most western societies ?

Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that most people tend to

reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a language that they do not

understand.

 

Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome.

 

Kind regards

Jay Weiss

 

-

Gauranga Das

vedic astrology

Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM

[vedic astrology] Upayas for planets

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear members,

 

Namaste.

 

Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If any planet is

causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should apply remedies for another

planet which will fight the ill effects of this one. The scheme is as follows:

Write the planets in the order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu.

Write them in a circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet

you should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are as follows:

 

Afflicted Treated

 

Su Ve

Mo Sa

Ma Ra

Me Ke

Ju Su

Ve Mo

Sa Ma

Ra Me

Ke Ju

 

I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me.

 

More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days time.

 

Yours,

 

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Vyam Vyasa-devaya Namah.

 

Thank you, Guruji, for the correction/explanation. I have

personally experienced the power of mantra. Whenever I am in a

confused state (spiritually) and grope in the dark to understand

what many enlightened rishis and yogis have said, reciting Gayatri

mantra gave me its effects - I have tried it many times and found it

working all the time. Infact, the more I receite Gayatri mantra, the

more I am inclined to dwell into spirituality. It is too powerful a

mantra, I must add.

 

My theory was based on the idea that if a mantra can be written (by

a person/yogi with divine blessings) in another language and can

produce the same vibrations, it might give the same effect too. This

is also based on my understanding/extrapolation of what Yoganandaji

said. My extrapolation might very well be wrong.

 

The example you pointed to clearly disproves my other theory that a

person need to know the meaning or have belief in and see God in the

form of the Lord referred to in the mantra (Eg a person may have to

see God in the form of Lord Shiva/Thriyambageshwara for Mrityunjaya).

 

Thank you again for the correction / clarification.

 

-Siva.

 

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

wrote:

>

>

> ~om sri gurave namah~

> Dear Siva:

> All theories fail in front of the great mantras in the Rig Veda.

For example, a lady who does not understand any of the eastern

languages, who was a christian and had no knowledge of hinduism, who

never bothered about spirituality, was made to hear constant

chanting of the mrityunjaya mantra when she was in bed. The words

etc were totally meaningless for her. She recovered even after all

doctors had declared her terminally ill with cancer, lived for 2

years before finally saying goodbye..

> So, what theory works?

> Many hindu's go to the church at Goa and light candles for Mother

Mary. Any idea what is happening out here, what is working? Does God

have a religion?

> Best regards,

> Sanjay Rath

> ----------------------

> Sri Jagannath Center, 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1,

New Delhi 110091, Tel: 91-11-2713201, Web: http://.org

http://srath.com

>

> schinnas <schinnas> [schinnas]

> Friday, December 27, 2002 1:47 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for planets

>

>

> I would like to add that while giving karmic explanation for the

> effects faced by the native (if he/she is unaware of eastern

concept

> of Karma), to use the scriptures they are familiar with. For

> examples, Bible captures the whole essense of Karma with this

simple

> statement:

> ::From The Bible, Galatians vi. 'Whatsoever a man soweth, that

shall

> he also reap.'::

>

> Readers might want to refer to The Holy Science by Swami

Yukteshwar

> Giri (the yogi that gave Yukteshwar ayanamsa) which gives many

such

> paralles between Biblical thoughts and hindu scriptures. The

natives

> will be more receptive to what they are hearing if they hear it in

a

> context known to them. Probably thats what Maharishi Parasara said

> when he suggested people use jyotish (with its remedies) as per

the

> context, country and age.

>

> The vedas also declare "Ekam sat vipraha bahudha vadanti" (Truth

is

> one, wise call it in many names). A mantra with similar phonetics

> and meaning can be said in any language and any God can be used

for

> a remedy as long as the native has faith in that God / angel and

> there is an appropriate mythology/purana behind it, that creates

an

> subconscious effect when that God is worshipped.

>

> Whatever I said is based on my limited understanding. I am waiting

> for gurus like PVRji or Sanjayji to clarify things for better.

>

> -Siva.

>

> vedic astrology, "schinnas <schinnas>"

> <schinnas> wrote:

> > I am just a beginner level jyotish student, but wanted to state

> my

> > opinions. These are based on my observations. Gurus please

correct

> > me if I am wrong.

> >

> > Mantras are vibrations based on certain sounds - you can create

> them

> > in any language that has well defined phonetics. In fact, my

> native

> > language is Tamil and most astrologers from my state(TN, India)

> > suggest tamil mantras to natives seeking remedies, since most

> common

> > folks cannot understand sanskrit mantras. There are tamil

versions

> > of mantras pertaining to each planet.

> >

> > My spiritual gurudev Yoganandaji also suggests the same. Infact,

> he

> > gives subtle hints that it is better to pray and recite mantras

in

> a

> > language one can understand rather than blindly reciting sounds

in

> > an unfamiliar tongue. Yoganandaji composed english devotional

> poems

> > that create a good spiritual vibrations when recited properly.

> >

> > The only problem with english is that it is not a phonetic

> language

> > like Sanskrit or Tamil and it is difficult to expect people to

> > pronounce english mantras in the same way as it is intended.

> >

> > Reg worship of hindu Gods for remedies, imho, it will not work

if

> a

> > non-hindu who is totally unaware of (let alone have faith in)

> Muruga

> > or Hanuman is asked to worship those deities to propitiate Mars.

I

> > have watched the astro counselling sessions in Indian regional

> > language astrlogical magazines for long. I could see a very good

> > psychological counselling pattern. For example if one person is

> > losing hope in life, and needs a protector, the astrologers

> suggest

> > they worship Hanuman. If some person is fearful/meek and needs

> > courage and aggressiveness - they (if the astrologer is from

Tamil

> > nadu) suggest worship of Karthikeya/Muruga. Astrologers from

north

> > suggest worship of Hanuman. In both cases, I noticed that Mars

was

> > the planet causing the trouble.

> >

> > What I am trying to say will be evident to people that know the

> > puranic story of Hanuman (A loyal servent of Ram and known for

> hope,

> > faith, valour, strength and courage) and Karthikeya (the son of

> Lord

> > Shiva and commander of devas - known for aggression, courage and

> > valour). When a person who has belief and faith in these Gods

and

> > knows their characteristics worship these Gods and thinks about

> > them, it creates some psychological waves/thinking process that

> > helps them overcome their current situation. That is why these

> > remedies are totally ineffective if the person doesnt have real

> > faith in that God or is not fully aware of the puranas behind

> those

> > Gods.

> >

> > So it is imperative that remedial measures need to be suggested

> > intelligently taking into account the language, mythology, faith

> > system that is known to the native and in which the native has

> faith

> > in. For example, a 10 syllable 4 word mantra with a specific

> meaning

> > can be created by any person with grace of God and full

> > understanding of what (s)he is doing. As Yoganandaji has

> > demonstrated poems and mantras can be created in any language by

> men

> > of God realization and they give the same effect.

> >

> > In some cases, it might be possible to ask the native to do a

> > creative remedy that will probably achieve the same purpose as a

> > traditional vedic remedy.

> >

> > For example, if vedic remedy suggests that a person worship

> Garuda,

> > but the native is an American who doesnt have any idea of what

> > Garuda is, the following remedy might be suggested: The native

may

> > be asked to meditate on the image of Eagle and recite a simple

> > english mantra (which has the same no. of syllables, similar

> > phonetics, no. of words, and meaning of the original sanskrit

> > mantra). Finding such a mantra may not be an easy task for

people

> > without some spiritual progress through yoga or meditation.

Still

> > some words like Aum have to be used as such as they are single

> > syllable words which have no equivalent in other languages.

> >

> > -Siva.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Guaranga Das,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the information. However I have a related question:

> > >

> > > How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as

> mantra

> > remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept'

such "foreign

> > cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ?

> > > Further (based on many comments that I got), it seems that

most

> > people tend to reject any kind of text (including mantras) in a

> > language that they do not understand.

> > >

> > > Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are welcome.

> > >

> > > Kind regards

> > > Jay Weiss

> > >

> > > -

> > > Gauranga Das

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] Upayas for planets

> > >

> > >

> > > JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> > >

> > > Dear members,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > > Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference:

If

> > any planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should

> > apply remedies for another planet which will fight the ill

effects

> > of this one. The scheme is as follows: Write the planets in the

> > order of the weekdays, followed by Rahu and Ketu. Write them in

a

> > circle in clockwise direction. For an affliction of a planet you

> > should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you thus get are

as

> > follows:

> > >

> > > Afflicted Treated

> > >

> > > Su Ve

> > > Mo Sa

> > > Ma Ra

> > > Me Ke

> > > Ju Su

> > > Ve Mo

> > > Sa Ma

> > > Ra Me

> > > Ke Ju

> > >

> > > I hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me.

> > >

> > > More later. I'm sending out the papers also in a few days

time.

> > >

> > > Yours,

> > >

> > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> > > gauranga@b...

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respected guruji,

 

it is very well said.

 

tvrao

 

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Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:36 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for planets

 

 

~om sri gurave namah~

Dear Siva:

All theories fail in front of the great mantras in the Rig Veda. For example, a

lady who does not understand any of the eastern languages, who was a christian

and had no knowledge of hinduism, who never bothered about spirituality, was

made to hear constant chanting of the mrityunjaya mantra when she was in bed.

The words etc were totally meaningless for her. She recovered even after all

doctors had declared her terminally ill with cancer, lived for 2 years before

finally saying goodbye..

So, what theory works?

Many hindu's go to the church at Goa and light candles for Mother Mary. Any idea

what is happening out here, what is working? Does God have a religion?

Best regards,

Sanjay Rath

----------------------

Sri Jagannath Center, 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi

110091, Tel: 91-11-2713201, Web: http://.org http://srath.com

schinnas <schinnas >

[schinnas ]Friday, December 27, 2002 1:47 PMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for

planetsI would like to add that while giving karmic explanation for the effects

faced by the native (if he/she is unaware of eastern concept of Karma), to use

the scriptures they are familiar with. For examples, Bible captures the whole

essense of Karma with this simple statement:::From The Bible, Galatians vi.

'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'::Readers might want to

refer to The Holy Science by Swami Yukteshwar Giri (the yogi that gave

Yukteshwar ayanamsa) which gives many such paralles between Biblical thoughts

and hindu scriptures. The natives will be more receptive to what they are

hearing if they hear it in a context known to them. Probably thats what

Maharishi Parasara said when he suggested people use jyotish (with its

remedies) as per the context, country and age.The vedas also declare "Ekam sat

vipraha bahudha vadanti" (Truth is one, wise call it in many names). A mantra

with similar phonetics and meaning can be said in any language and any God can

be used for a remedy as long as the native has faith in that God / angel and

there is an appropriate mythology/purana behind it, that creates an

subconscious effect when that God is worshipped.Whatever I said is based on my

limited understanding. I am waiting for gurus like PVRji or Sanjayji to clarify

things for better.-Siva.vedic astrology, "schinnas

<schinnas>" <schinnas> wrote:> I am just a beginner level jyotish

student, but wanted to state my > opinions. These are based on my observations.

Gurus please correct > me if I am wrong.> > Mantras are vibrations based on

certain sounds - you can create them > in any language that has well defined

phonetics. In fact, my native > language is Tamil and most astrologers from my

state(TN, India) > suggest tamil mantras to natives seeking remedies, since

most common > folks cannot understand sanskrit mantras. There are tamil

versions > of mantras pertaining to each planet.> > My spiritual gurudev

Yoganandaji also suggests the same. Infact, he > gives subtle hints that it is

better to pray and recite mantras in a > language one can understand rather

than blindly reciting sounds in > an unfamiliar tongue. Yoganandaji composed

english devotional poems > that create a good spiritual vibrations when recited

properly.> > The only problem with english is that it is not a phonetic language

> like Sanskrit or Tamil and it is difficult to expect people to > pronounce

english mantras in the same way as it is intended. > > Reg worship of hindu

Gods for remedies, imho, it will not work if a > non-hindu who is totally

unaware of (let alone have faith in) Muruga > or Hanuman is asked to worship

those deities to propitiate Mars. I > have watched the astro counselling

sessions in Indian regional > language astrlogical magazines for long. I could

see a very good > psychological counselling pattern. For example if one person

is > losing hope in life, and needs a protector, the astrologers suggest > they

worship Hanuman. If some person is fearful/meek and needs > courage and

aggressiveness - they (if the astrologer is from Tamil > nadu) suggest worship

of Karthikeya/Muruga. Astrologers from north > suggest worship of Hanuman. In

both cases, I noticed that Mars was > the planet causing the trouble.> > What I

am trying to say will be evident to people that know the > puranic story of

Hanuman (A loyal servent of Ram and known for hope, > faith, valour, strength

and courage) and Karthikeya (the son of Lord > Shiva and commander of devas -

known for aggression, courage and > valour). When a person who has belief and

faith in these Gods and > knows their characteristics worship these Gods and

thinks about > them, it creates some psychological waves/thinking process that

> helps them overcome their current situation. That is why these > remedies are

totally ineffective if the person doesnt have real > faith in that God or is not

fully aware of the puranas behind those > Gods.> > So it is imperative that

remedial measures need to be suggested > intelligently taking into account the

language, mythology, faith > system that is known to the native and in which

the native has faith > in. For example, a 10 syllable 4 word mantra with a

specific meaning > can be created by any person with grace of God and full >

understanding of what (s)he is doing. As Yoganandaji has > demonstrated poems

and mantras can be created in any language by men > of God realization and they

give the same effect. > > In some cases, it might be possible to ask the native

to do a > creative remedy that will probably achieve the same purpose as a >

traditional vedic remedy.> > For example, if vedic remedy suggests that a

person worship Garuda, > but the native is an American who doesnt have any idea

of what > Garuda is, the following remedy might be suggested: The native may >

be asked to meditate on the image of Eagle and recite a simple > english mantra

(which has the same no. of syllables, similar > phonetics, no. of words, and

meaning of the original sanskrit > mantra). Finding such a mantra may not be an

easy task for people > without some spiritual progress through yoga or

meditation. Still > some words like Aum have to be used as such as they are

single > syllable words which have no equivalent in other languages.> > -Siva.>

> vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...> > wrote:> >

Dear Guaranga Das,> > > > Thanks for the information. However I have a related

question:> > > > How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as

mantra > remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign >

cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ?> > Further

(based on many comments that I got), it seems that most > people tend to reject

any kind of text (including mantras) in a > language that they do not

understand. > > > > Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are

welcome.> > > > Kind regards> > Jay Weiss> > > > -

> > Gauranga Das > > vedic astrology > > Sent:

Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM> > [vedic astrology] Upayas for

planets> > > > > > JAYA JAGANNATHA!> > > > Dear members,> > > > Namaste.>

> > > Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If > any

planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should > apply remedies

for another planet which will fight the ill effects > of this one. The scheme

is as follows: Write the planets in the > order of the weekdays, followed by

Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a > circle in clockwise direction. For an

affliction of a planet you > should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you

thus get are as > follows:> > > > Afflicted Treated> > > > Su

Ve> > Mo Sa> > Ma Ra> > Me Ke> > Ju Su> >

Ve Mo> > Sa Ma> > Ra Me> > Ke Ju> > > > I

hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. > > > > More later. I'm

sending out the papers also in a few days time.> > > > Yours,> > > >

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer> > gauranga@b...> > Jyotish

Remedies:> > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET> > Phone:+36-309-140-839> > > > > >

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Namaste Sri Sanjayji,

I am very much thankful to you for such comments.As You said really worked in

one of my colleague's case also.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

Sanjay Rath <srath (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

~om sri gurave namah~

Dear Siva:

All theories fail in front of the great mantras in the Rig Veda. For example, a

lady who does not understand any of the eastern languages, who was a christian

and had no knowledge of hinduism, who never bothered about spirituality, was

made to hear constant chanting of the mrityunjaya mantra when she was in bed.

The words etc were totally meaningless for her. She recovered even after all

doctors had declared her terminally ill with cancer, lived for 2 years before

finally saying goodbye..

So, what theory works?

Many hindu's go to the church at Goa and light candles for Mother Mary. Any idea

what is happening out here, what is working? Does God have a religion?

Best regards,

Sanjay Rath

----------------------

Sri Jagannath Center, 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi

110091, Tel: 91-11-2713201, Web: http://.org http://srath.com

schinnas <schinnas >

[schinnas ]Friday, December 27, 2002 1:47 PMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for

planetsI would like to add that while giving karmic explanation for the effects

faced by the native (if he/she is unaware of eastern concept of Karma), to use

the scriptures they are familiar with. For examples, Bible captures the whole

essense of Karma with this simple statement:::From The Bible, Galatians vi.

'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'::Readers might want to

refer to The Holy Science by Swami Yukteshwar Giri (the yogi that gave

Yukteshwar ayanamsa) which gives many such paralles between Biblical thoughts

and hindu scriptures. The natives will be more receptive to what they are

hearing if they hear it in a context known to them. Probably thats what

Maharishi Parasara said when he suggested people use jyotish (with its

remedies) as per the context, country and age.The vedas also declare "Ekam sat

vipraha bahudha vadanti" (Truth is one, wise call it in many names). A mantra

with similar phonetics and meaning can be said in any language and any God can

be used for a remedy as long as the native has faith in that God / angel and

there is an appropriate mythology/purana behind it, that creates an

subconscious effect when that God is worshipped.Whatever I said is based on my

limited understanding. I am waiting for gurus like PVRji or Sanjayji to clarify

things for better.-Siva.vedic astrology, "schinnas

<schinnas>" <schinnas> wrote:> I am just a beginner level jyotish

student, but wanted to state my > opinions. These are based on my observations.

Gurus please correct > me if I am wrong.> > Mantras are vibrations based on

certain sounds - you can create them > in any language that has well defined

phonetics. In fact, my native > language is Tamil and most astrologers from my

state(TN, India) > suggest tamil mantras to natives seeking remedies, since

most common > folks cannot understand sanskrit mantras. There are tamil

versions > of mantras pertaining to each planet.> > My spiritual gurudev

Yoganandaji also suggests the same. Infact, he > gives subtle hints that it is

better to pray and recite mantras in a > language one can understand rather

than blindly reciting sounds in > an unfamiliar tongue. Yoganandaji composed

english devotional poems > that create a good spiritual vibrations when recited

properly.> > The only problem with english is that it is not a phonetic language

> like Sanskrit or Tamil and it is difficult to expect people to > pronounce

english mantras in the same way as it is intended. > > Reg worship of hindu

Gods for remedies, imho, it will not work if a > non-hindu who is totally

unaware of (let alone have faith in) Muruga > or Hanuman is asked to worship

those deities to propitiate Mars. I > have watched the astro counselling

sessions in Indian regional > language astrlogical magazines for long. I could

see a very good > psychological counselling pattern. For example if one person

is > losing hope in life, and needs a protector, the astrologers suggest > they

worship Hanuman. If some person is fearful/meek and needs > courage and

aggressiveness - they (if the astrologer is from Tamil > nadu) suggest worship

of Karthikeya/Muruga. Astrologers from north > suggest worship of Hanuman. In

both cases, I noticed that Mars was > the planet causing the trouble.> > What I

am trying to say will be evident to people that know the > puranic story of

Hanuman (A loyal servent of Ram and known for hope, > faith, valour, strength

and courage) and Karthikeya (the son of Lord > Shiva and commander of devas -

known for aggression, courage and > valour). When a person who has belief and

faith in these Gods and > knows their characteristics worship these Gods and

thinks about > them, it creates some psychological waves/thinking process that

> helps them overcome their current situation. That is why these > remedies are

totally ineffective if the person doesnt have real > faith in that God or is not

fully aware of the puranas behind those > Gods.> > So it is imperative that

remedial measures need to be suggested > intelligently taking into account the

language, mythology, faith > system that is known to the native and in which

the native has faith > in. For example, a 10 syllable 4 word mantra with a

specific meaning > can be created by any person with grace of God and full >

understanding of what (s)he is doing. As Yoganandaji has > demonstrated poems

and mantras can be created in any language by men > of God realization and they

give the same effect. > > In some cases, it might be possible to ask the native

to do a > creative remedy that will probably achieve the same purpose as a >

traditional vedic remedy.> > For example, if vedic remedy suggests that a

person worship Garuda, > but the native is an American who doesnt have any idea

of what > Garuda is, the following remedy might be suggested: The native may >

be asked to meditate on the image of Eagle and recite a simple > english mantra

(which has the same no. of syllables, similar > phonetics, no. of words, and

meaning of the original sanskrit > mantra). Finding such a mantra may not be an

easy task for people > without some spiritual progress through yoga or

meditation. Still > some words like Aum have to be used as such as they are

single > syllable words which have no equivalent in other languages.> > -Siva.>

> vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...> > wrote:> >

Dear Guaranga Das,> > > > Thanks for the information. However I have a related

question:> > > > How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as

mantra > remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign >

cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ?> > Further

(based on many comments that I got), it seems that most > people tend to reject

any kind of text (including mantras) in a > language that they do not

understand. > > > > Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are

welcome.> > > > Kind regards> > Jay Weiss> > > > -

> > Gauranga Das > > vedic astrology > > Sent:

Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM> > [vedic astrology] Upayas for

planets> > > > > > JAYA JAGANNATHA!> > > > Dear members,> > > > Namaste.>

> > > Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If > any

planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should > apply remedies

for another planet which will fight the ill effects > of this one. The scheme

is as follows: Write the planets in the > order of the weekdays, followed by

Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a > circle in clockwise direction. For an

affliction of a planet you > should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you

thus get are as > follows:> > > > Afflicted Treated> > > > Su

Ve> > Mo Sa> > Ma Ra> > Me Ke> > Ju Su> >

Ve Mo> > Sa Ma> > Ra Me> > Ke Ju> > > > I

hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. > > > > More later. I'm

sending out the papers also in a few days time.> > > > Yours,> > > >

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer> > gauranga@b...> > Jyotish

Remedies:> > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET> > Phone:+36-309-140-839> > > > > >

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