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Sri Rama Jayam

There is only one religion, the religion of Love; There is only one language,

the language of the Heart; There is only one caste, the caste of Humanity;

There is only one law, the law of Karma; There is only one God, He is

Omnipresent,Omniscient ,Omnipotent & all Pervesive

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Sirnagesh

Sanjay Rath <srath (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

~om sri gurave namah~

Dear Siva:

All theories fail in front of the great mantras in the Rig Veda. For example, a

lady who does not understand any of the eastern languages, who was a christian

and had no knowledge of hinduism, who never bothered about spirituality, was

made to hear constant chanting of the mrityunjaya mantra when she was in bed.

The words etc were totally meaningless for her. She recovered even after all

doctors had declared her terminally ill with cancer, lived for 2 years before

finally saying goodbye..

So, what theory works?

Many hindu's go to the church at Goa and light candles for Mother Mary. Any idea

what is happening out here, what is working? Does God have a religion?

Best regards,

Sanjay Rath

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schinnas <schinnas >

[schinnas ]Friday, December 27, 2002 1:47 PMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Upayas for

planetsI would like to add that while giving karmic explanation for the effects

faced by the native (if he/she is unaware of eastern concept of Karma), to use

the scriptures they are familiar with. For examples, Bible captures the whole

essense of Karma with this simple statement:::From The Bible, Galatians vi.

'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'::Readers might want to

refer to The Holy Science by Swami Yukteshwar Giri (the yogi that gave

Yukteshwar ayanamsa) which gives many such paralles between Biblical thoughts

and hindu scriptures. The natives will be more receptive to what they are

hearing if they hear it in a context known to them. Probably thats what

Maharishi Parasara said when he suggested people use jyotish (with its

remedies) as per the context, country and age.The vedas also declare "Ekam sat

vipraha bahudha vadanti" (Truth is one, wise call it in many names). A mantra

with similar phonetics and meaning can be said in any language and any God can

be used for a remedy as long as the native has faith in that God / angel and

there is an appropriate mythology/purana behind it, that creates an

subconscious effect when that God is worshipped.Whatever I said is based on my

limited understanding. I am waiting for gurus like PVRji or Sanjayji to clarify

things for better.-Siva.vedic astrology, "schinnas

<schinnas>" <schinnas> wrote:> I am just a beginner level jyotish

student, but wanted to state my > opinions. These are based on my observations.

Gurus please correct > me if I am wrong.> > Mantras are vibrations based on

certain sounds - you can create them > in any language that has well defined

phonetics. In fact, my native > language is Tamil and most astrologers from my

state(TN, India) > suggest tamil mantras to natives seeking remedies, since

most common > folks cannot understand sanskrit mantras. There are tamil

versions > of mantras pertaining to each planet.> > My spiritual gurudev

Yoganandaji also suggests the same. Infact, he > gives subtle hints that it is

better to pray and recite mantras in a > language one can understand rather

than blindly reciting sounds in > an unfamiliar tongue. Yoganandaji composed

english devotional poems > that create a good spiritual vibrations when recited

properly.> > The only problem with english is that it is not a phonetic language

> like Sanskrit or Tamil and it is difficult to expect people to > pronounce

english mantras in the same way as it is intended. > > Reg worship of hindu

Gods for remedies, imho, it will not work if a > non-hindu who is totally

unaware of (let alone have faith in) Muruga > or Hanuman is asked to worship

those deities to propitiate Mars. I > have watched the astro counselling

sessions in Indian regional > language astrlogical magazines for long. I could

see a very good > psychological counselling pattern. For example if one person

is > losing hope in life, and needs a protector, the astrologers suggest > they

worship Hanuman. If some person is fearful/meek and needs > courage and

aggressiveness - they (if the astrologer is from Tamil > nadu) suggest worship

of Karthikeya/Muruga. Astrologers from north > suggest worship of Hanuman. In

both cases, I noticed that Mars was > the planet causing the trouble.> > What I

am trying to say will be evident to people that know the > puranic story of

Hanuman (A loyal servent of Ram and known for hope, > faith, valour, strength

and courage) and Karthikeya (the son of Lord > Shiva and commander of devas -

known for aggression, courage and > valour). When a person who has belief and

faith in these Gods and > knows their characteristics worship these Gods and

thinks about > them, it creates some psychological waves/thinking process that

> helps them overcome their current situation. That is why these > remedies are

totally ineffective if the person doesnt have real > faith in that God or is not

fully aware of the puranas behind those > Gods.> > So it is imperative that

remedial measures need to be suggested > intelligently taking into account the

language, mythology, faith > system that is known to the native and in which

the native has faith > in. For example, a 10 syllable 4 word mantra with a

specific meaning > can be created by any person with grace of God and full >

understanding of what (s)he is doing. As Yoganandaji has > demonstrated poems

and mantras can be created in any language by men > of God realization and they

give the same effect. > > In some cases, it might be possible to ask the native

to do a > creative remedy that will probably achieve the same purpose as a >

traditional vedic remedy.> > For example, if vedic remedy suggests that a

person worship Garuda, > but the native is an American who doesnt have any idea

of what > Garuda is, the following remedy might be suggested: The native may >

be asked to meditate on the image of Eagle and recite a simple > english mantra

(which has the same no. of syllables, similar > phonetics, no. of words, and

meaning of the original sanskrit > mantra). Finding such a mantra may not be an

easy task for people > without some spiritual progress through yoga or

meditation. Still > some words like Aum have to be used as such as they are

single > syllable words which have no equivalent in other languages.> > -Siva.>

> vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...> > wrote:> >

Dear Guaranga Das,> > > > Thanks for the information. However I have a related

question:> > > > How does one introduce such (and all similar) concepts (as

mantra > remedies) to people in cultures that do not 'accept' such "foreign >

cultural methods", which is the case in most western societies ?> > Further

(based on many comments that I got), it seems that most > people tend to reject

any kind of text (including mantras) in a > language that they do not

understand. > > > > Any comments and/or experiences in this matter are

welcome.> > > > Kind regards> > Jay Weiss> > > > -

> > Gauranga Das > > vedic astrology > > Sent:

Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:58 PM> > [vedic astrology] Upayas for

planets> > > > > > JAYA JAGANNATHA!> > > > Dear members,> > > > Namaste.>

> > > Just a small hint from the notes I made on the conference: If > any

planet is causing aflfiction in your chart, then you should > apply remedies

for another planet which will fight the ill effects > of this one. The scheme

is as follows: Write the planets in the > order of the weekdays, followed by

Rahu and Ketu. Write them in a > circle in clockwise direction. For an

affliction of a planet you > should always treat the 6th from it. The pairs you

thus get are as > follows:> > > > Afflicted Treated> > > > Su

Ve> > Mo Sa> > Ma Ra> > Me Ke> > Ju Su> >

Ve Mo> > Sa Ma> > Ra Me> > Ke Ju> > > > I

hope this helps. It makes a lot of sense to me. > > > > More later. I'm

sending out the papers also in a few days time.> > > > Yours,> > > >

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer> > gauranga@b...> > Jyotish

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