ADMIN: Non-astrological Matters (THIS NONSENSE HAS GOT TO STOP)

January 10, 2003

Namaste all,

Yesterday I also saw this mail from Gauranga and honestly I did not understand

what he was getting at. The only thing I understood was that he was disgruntled

about something.

Gauranga is an SJC guru appointed by Pt. Sanjay Rath and made some excellent

contributions to this list (vedic astrology). However, if he continues like

this, I will have to expel him from the list. Gauranga, I gave you ample

chances to leave this unneeded discussion _at the public level_ and return to

astrology. My calls for sanity went unheeded. If you send another post to this

list on Sanjay's habits or Sanjay's finances or anything private and unrelated

to Jyotish, you will be expelled from the list. I've been fair and gave you

enough chances.

Anybody else who forwards such discussions to this list from other lists or from

private exchanges will also be expelled.

Only the SJC insiders (like Sarbani) or Pt. Sanjay Rath (the maligned one) will

be allowed to speak on this non-astrological matter from now on. PLEASE RETURN

TO ASTROLOGY. I am not placing the list under moderation like earlier, but will

watch the proceedings closely and expel right away anybody sending posts here

that contain comments on Sanjay's private life.

BTW, Zoran, this list has more than 1100 people now (not just "nearly 1000").

It's obscene that those who post non-astrological gossip here don't realize how

many people they may be offending with such acts.

It is sad that Gauranga is trying to create a negative image of Sanjay in front

of so many people. We teach about karma and curses to SJC students. What use is

it of if an SJC guru himself doesn't understand the concept of karma and curses

and brings curses upon himself for the next life? Sanjay doesn't have to

explicitly curse him. As Sri Ramdas Rao said, Gauranga is assured of a Guru

Saapa in his next life's chart if Sanjay feels even a little bit sad (Saurn) or

let down (Rahu) or angry (Mars) on reading Gauranga's tirade. But, on the other

hand, Sanjay is too saattwik.

GO BACK TO ASTROLOGY. No more gossip here.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,P.V.R. Narasimha Rao

List founder & administrator

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Zoran Radosavljevic

vedic astrology

Cc: Sanjay Rath ; Vyasa

Friday, January 10, 2003 10:21 AM

[Vedavyasa] Re: [vedic astrology] THIS NONSENSE HAS GOT TO STOP (Re:

vedic astrology] Clarification on Sanjay issue (please forward to other lists))

Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Sarabani, and Jyotish Friends, As a Teacher of SJC in

here I am getting irritated with such postings.. Gauranga, both you and

Dinnanath have known Sanjay for several years. You seem to realize that he is

not as "satvic" as you thought. Now, after several years of your so called

dellusion, you are expecting that we should accept your words. In any case, you

are Jyotish teacher, have a look at Sanjay Chart and get the answers.. Please,

please, stop creating this negative image in front of nearly 1000 people in

here Om Shanti, Zoran Sarabani Sarkar wrote:

Om Chandikayai Namah(Non-SJC members please ignore this non-jyotish mail)Dear

Gauranga,This has simply GOT to stop. (Narasimha, my apologies for replying to

him). You were not even there...PLEASE DO NOT MISREPRESENT, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE.

Swee will never misrepresent I know that, so it must be you. Swee has been

donating the money that she has been making with the sales of her stones at the

Hyderabad conference to SJC. SJC has just opened an account in New Delhi. Sanjay

does not handle that account at all...I do. Hence Swee was handing over all SJC

donations to me. (You want bank details? Account number?). Why don't you come

down to Delhi and handle all this huge administration work yourself? It will

leave me free to pursue my jyotish studies which I have been neglecting of

late. Swee at the same time gave Rs. 5000/ as dakshina for Sanjay. I told her

to hand it over to Sanjay herself. I have never seen Sanjay accept dakshina

from anyone, and if he does, he usually asks them to donate it to SJC. BUT, in

Swee's case he did take the dakshina. I had laughed and joked that it took care

of his plane ticket to Bhubaneswar. His ticket was ALREADY bought. He was

cribbing that it made a hole in his pocket. My comment implied that God took

care of the hole in his pocket!! I don't even believe that I am writing all

this on the list. Kali yuga...Sanjay handed me the money at the moment to keep

it in my handbag....as usually in India, men don't carry hand bags or purses! I

even carried Sarajit's, Visti's, Shiv's and Sanjay's money at Tirupati as they

wanted to move around freely and go for their mundan etc. and since their

luggage were not locked. In India, its a common thing, that the woman's handbag

becomes a common property, and the woman a natural guardian. Please note, that

money to SJC and dakshina to Sanjay is a separate matter. I am not bothered

with what dakshina anyone gives or does not give to Sanjay. That's not my

problem. I am only bothered with SJC money. The two are separate. In the case

of your shishyas, for the the immediate purpose, because of logistic reasons,

Sanjay had suggested that his dakshinas be routed through the SJC account. I

have explained all this to you...twice. Still you choose to create a

controversy. If you have a problem, simply wait till he returns from Orissa,

and hand his stuff directly to him at his address or to his bank account.

What's the big deal about this? Gurus please note that I am copying this mail

to the Vyasa list. This kind of irresponsible behaviour must stop.Sarbani

Gauranga Das [gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net]

Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:30 PM vedic astrology

Cc: Vedic Astrology (Symposium hosted by Shyamasundara Das) Subject:

[vedic astrology] Clarification on Sanjay issue (please forward to other lists)

Dear members, Namaste. I'm sorry to disturb you agian with this issue which got

into the lists out of my will as I have stated earlier. However the staements

made need some clarification and some of it has already come, the rest is yet

to come. Sanjay mentioned the following in his answer to me: Another thing - I

have been observing how you are directing your shisya to send money to me as

Dakshina, and not to SJC/Sarbani. Be sure that I will not accept this from

everyone. In one case of Swee Chan I took the dakshina and not because you told

her or something like that, but because the prasna and nimitta were right for me

to accept. Many people of SJC were there when this event happened on the 2nd

night of the Hyderabad conference and they can testify that the donation

offered by Swee Chan was taken by Sarabani in the name of SJC India, and not

Sanjay personally. Sanjay took only the price of an air ticket from Hyderabad

to Puri from her. The rest of the financial etc. questions are still unclear so

I wond not form a definite standpoint on them AS I HAVE NOT DONE SO IN MY

PREVIOUS EMAILS AS WELL. I'm looking at statements from both sides and trying

to resolve the quandary of controversies. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

Phone:+36-309-140-839

January 10, 2003

Dear Narasimha Rao ji,

Thank you for your controlled statements.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: