Lords of Thithi and Hora Conflict

January 11, 2003

Namaste,

Thithi i.e. lunar day is one of the five limb of Panch'ang. I have read that

1st, 6th, and 11th thithis are related with Venus; 2nd, 7th, 12th with Mercury;

3rd, 8th, 13th with Mars; 4th, 9th,14th with Saturn; and 5th, 10th,15th are

lorded by Jupiter.

But Narasimharao said (in a message Oct'2002) that "Pratipat to Ashtami are

ruled by Sun to Rahu in weekday lord order (with Rahu added at the end). Navami

to Chaturdasi are ruled by Sun to Venus in weekday lord order. Pournima is ruled

by Saturn and Amavasya by Rahu".

Q1) What is the correct lordship regarding Thithi?

Hora is also consider important (specially in parshan and shad bala

computation). The problem I have with sequence of Hora lord. There are 24 horas

in total in which 12 are from sunrise to sunset and remainings 12 are from sun

set to sun rise. Every day the first hora is of the day lord, e.g. on Sunday

first hora is lorded by Sun. till here all agrees.

Some give the order according to the motion/speed of grahas:

Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury and Moon.

While others mentioned the hora sequence like day lord order:

Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn.

Q2) What is the true hora lordship either speed-wise or day-wise? and is there

any concept of Rahu hora? if yes than how can it is computed?

Regards

M.Imran

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January 11, 2003

Dear Muhammad,

The tithi lords are as followd:

Pratipad and Navami - Sun

Dwitiya and Dashami - Moon

Tritiya and Ekadashi - Mars

Chaturthi and Dwadashi - Mercury

Panchami and Trayodashi - Jupiter

Shashthi and Chaturdashi - Venus

Saptami and Amavasya - Saturn

Ashtami and Purnima - Rahu

The hora lords are according to the speed of the planets. The day lord rules

the first hora of the day. So on Thursday, the first hora will be ruled by

Jupiter, on Friday, by Venus and so on.

Best regards,

Sarbani

Quoting Muhammad Imran <astroimran:

>

> Respected Gurus and Members

>

> Namaste,

>

> Thithi i.e. lunar day is one of the five limb of Panch'ang. I have read that

> 1st, 6th, and 11th thithis are related with Venus; 2nd, 7th, 12th with

> Mercury; 3rd, 8th, 13th with Mars; 4th, 9th,14th with Saturn; and 5th,

> 10th,15th are lorded by Jupiter.

>

> But Narasimharao said (in a message Oct'2002) that "Pratipat to Ashtami are

> ruled by Sun to Rahu in weekday lord order (with Rahu added at the end).

> Navami to Chaturdasi are ruled by Sun to Venus in weekday lord order.

> Pournima is ruled by Saturn and Amavasya by Rahu".

>

> Q1) What is the correct lordship regarding Thithi?

>

> Hora is also consider important (specially in parshan and shad bala

> computation). The problem I have with sequence of Hora lord. There are 24

> horas in total in which 12 are from sunrise to sunset and remainings 12 are

> from sun set to sun rise. Every day the first hora is of the day lord, e.g.

> on Sunday first hora is lorded by Sun. till here all agrees.

>

> Some give the order according to the motion/speed of grahas:

>

> Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury and Moon.

>

> While others mentioned the hora sequence like day lord order:

>

> Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn.

>

> Q2) What is the true hora lordship either speed-wise or day-wise? and is

> there any concept of Rahu hora? if yes than how can it is computed?

>

> Regards

>

> M.Imran

>

> News - Today's headlines

January 11, 2003

logic >>> adithyaya ,somya,magalaya,budhayacha,guru ,sukra,sanieshwarabyaschya ,rahave

ketave namaha !!!!

When performing abhisekham to planets at any place ,this systems is followed

Sun is the center first .......facing east 1'st -Pratipad -Sun -Navami >>>Sri

Rama was born on Navami thithi >>>Sun 2,nd -Dwitiya-moon-Dashami 3rd-Tritiya

-mars-and Ekadashi 4th-Chaturthi-mercury -Dwadashi 5th-Panchami-guru -Trayodashi

6th-Shashthi-venus-Chaturdashi

7th-Saptami -saturn -Amavasya 8th-rahave -rahu -Rahu-Purnima They form the

Krishna paksha & Sukla Paksha Thithi is one of the panchanga .......

Ketu is not counted .......now reverse.

Pratipad and Navami - SunDwitiya and Dashami - MoonTritiya and Ekadashi -

MarsChaturthi and Dwadashi - MercuryPanchami and Trayodashi - JupiterShashthi

and Chaturdashi - VenusSaptami and Amavasya - SaturnAshtami and Purnima -

RahuHora starts in the morning sunsrise time Best Regards

Srinagesh

sarbani (AT) (DOT) org wrote:

Dear Muhammad,The tithi lords are as followd:Pratipad and Navami - SunDwitiya

and Dashami - MoonTritiya and Ekadashi - MarsChaturthi and Dwadashi -

MercuryPanchami and Trayodashi - JupiterShashthi and Chaturdashi - VenusSaptami

and Amavasya - SaturnAshtami and Purnima - RahuThe hora lords are according to

the speed of the planets. The day lord rules the first hora of the day. So on

Thursday, the first hora will be ruled by Jupiter, on Friday, by Venus and so

on.Best regards,SarbaniQuoting Muhammad Imran <astroimran >:> >

Respected Gurus and Members> > Namaste,> > Thithi i.e. lunar day is one of the

five limb of Panch'ang. I have read that> 1st, 6th, and 11th thithis are

related with Venus; 2nd, 7th, 12th with> Mercury; 3rd, 8th, 13th with Mars;

4th, 9th,14th with Saturn; and 5th,> 10th,15th are lorded by Jupiter. > > But

Narasimharao said (in a message Oct'2002) that "Pratipat to Ashtami are> ruled

by Sun to Rahu in weekday lord order (with Rahu added at the end).> Navami to

Chaturdasi are ruled by Sun to Venus in weekday lord order.> Pournima is ruled

by Saturn and Amavasya by Rahu".> > > Q1) What is the correct lordship

regarding Thithi?> > Hora is also consider important (specially in parshan and

shad bala> computation). The problem I have with sequence of Hora lord. There

are 24> horas in total in which 12 are from sunrise to sunset and remainings 12

are> from sun set to sun rise. Every day the first hora is of the day lord,

e.g.> on Sunday first hora is lorded by Sun. till here all agrees.> > Some give

the order according to the motion/speed of grahas:> > Saturn, Jupiter, Mars,

Sun, Venus, Mercury and Moon.> > While others mentioned the hora sequence like

day lord order:> > Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn.> > Q2)

What is the true hora lordship either speed-wise or day-wise? and is> there any

concept of Rahu hora? if yes than how can it is computed?> > Regards> > M.Imran>

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January 11, 2003

Pranam,

Thanks. But it might be possible that at different places the order of thithi

lordship may change. The sequence, Nanda (1,6,11=Venus),

Bhadra(2,7,12=Mercury), Jaya(3,8,13=Mars), Rikta(4,9,14), and

Poorna(5,10,15=Jupiter) thithi is also seen in many books, softwares, and

specially in the middle of Sarvotabhadra chakkra. Or your mentioned lordship

order is universal for all purposes.

What is Rahu Hora?

Regards

Imran

venkateshwara srinagesh <sri999 > wrote:

Dear Muhammad , logic >>> adithyaya ,somya,magalaya,budhayacha,guru

,sukra,sanieshwarabyaschya ,rahave ketave namaha !!!! When performing

abhisekham to planets at any place ,this systems is followed Sun is the center

first .......facing east 1'st -Pratipad -Sun -Navami >>>Sri Rama was born on

Navami thithi >>>Sun 2,nd -Dwitiya-moon-Dashami 3rd-Tritiya -mars-and

Ekadashi 4th-Chaturthi-mercury -Dwadashi 5th-Panchami-guru -Trayodashi

6th-Shashthi-venus-Chaturdashi 7th-Saptami -saturn -Amavasya 8th-rahave -rahu

-Rahu-Purnima They form the Krishna paksha & Sukla Paksha Thithi is one of the

panchanga ....... Ketu is not counted .......now reverse. Pratipad and Navami -

SunDwitiya and Dashami - MoonTritiya and Ekadashi - MarsChaturthi and Dwadashi -

MercuryPanchami and Trayodashi - JupiterShashthi and Chaturdashi - VenusSaptami

and Amavasya - SaturnAshtami and Purnima - RahuHora starts in the morning

sunsrise time Best Regards Srinagesh sarbani (AT) (DOT) org wrote: Dear

Muhammad,The tithi lords are as followd:Pratipad and Navami - SunDwitiya and

Dashami - MoonTritiya and Ekadashi - MarsChaturthi and Dwadashi -