To All Gurujis (for Vivek)

January 16, 2003

Vivek,

For a Cancer lagna, Mars in the 6th house is not good

for career. The effects may be mitigated depending on

the location of the arudha lagna. You need to look at

the navamsha and the dasamsha to see if there's an

improvement in his career status. As such, you can

find out what steps the person needs to do to succeed.

Regards,

John R.

--- "vivek_pratibha <vivek_pratibha"

<vivek_pratibha wrote:

> OM

>

> Gurujis,

>

> I am a novice to astrology. I have come across the

> horoscope of a

> person having CANCER LAGNA and with Mars and Saturn

> in 6th house.

>

> What will the the effect of their conjunction in 6th

> house and

> Sagitarious rashi? Can this person hope for things

> to change for

> better - 6th being Upachaya house, and Saturn in

> Sagitarious is not

> bad? Saturn dasha started 2 years ago, and since

> then he has been

> having career problems.

>

> Thanks

>

> With regards

>

> Vivek

>

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January 17, 2003

Vivek,

The arudha lagna is determined by counting the number

of houses the lagna lord is away from the ascendant.

Then, count the same number of houses from the

location of the lagna lord. In this chart, the lagan

lord (Moon) is located in the 7th house. Therefore,

the arudha lagna is the same as the lagna.

The arudha lagna in this case does not change the

situation disclosed by the lagna.

Also, you need to analyze the chart from the positions

of the Moon and the Sun. The 10th house lords from

the Moon and the Sun appear to be located in a better

place. However, the conjunction of Saturn makes the

situation difficult.

The conjunction of Saturn and Mars is malefic and can

cause physical harm to the body. The native might

have an injury in his thigh or lower abdomen, perhaps

due to an operation.

Saturn is also debilated in the navamsa. So, the dasa

of Saturn can be challenging for the native. During

this month, he is experiencing the full effects of

Saturn. There will be some relief when the Sun

transits away from Saggitarius.

In short, he needs to request a pandit to perform

yagyas for him during the dasa of Saturn. As such,

the native can gain the support of nature in all of

his endeavors.

Regards,

John R.

--- "vivek_pratibha <vivek_pratibha"

<vivek_pratibha wrote:

> John,

>

> Thank you very much for your kind reply. I have been

> reading your

> mails in this forum with a lot of interest, and find

> them very

> informative. I will really appreciate any details

> you can provide

> regarding this case.

>

> You had remarked:

>

> > The effects may be mitigated depending on

> > the location of the arudha lagna.

>

> I am not familiar with Arudha Lagna? Can you kindly

> throw some more

> light on this?

>

> > You need to look at

> > the navamsha and the dasamsha to see if there's an

> > improvement in his career status. As such, you

> can

> > find out what steps the person needs to do to

> succeed.

>

> In Navamsha, Mars is in 11th house in Leo Rashi

> (GOOD). In Navamsha

> Saturn is debilited (BAD) in 7th house (In Kendra so

> GOOD).

>

> In Dasmansha Mars is in 12th (BAD) in Taurus Rashi,

> in exchange with

> Venus in 6th (BAD). Saturn is in Virgo in 4th house.

>

> The details of the horoscope are:-

>

> Birth February, 17, 1958

> Time: 16:42

> Place: Mount Abu, Rajasthan, India (24.5 N; 72.38 E)

>

> Janam Kundli (D-1):

> 1) Cancer Lagna

> 2) Jupiter and Rahu in 4th house.

> 3) Saturn and Yog Karak Mars in 6th house.

> 4) Venus, LL Moon, and Mercury in 7th house

> 5) Sun in 8th house

> 6) Ketu in 10th house.

>

> Navamsha (D-9):

>

> 1) Lagna Libra

> 2) Sun in 2 House in Scorpio.

> 3) Jupiter in 3 house, in Sagitarus

> 4) Rahu in 4 house, in Capricorn

> 5) Venus exhalted in 6 house, in Pisces

> 6) Satrun debilited in 7 house in Aries

> 7) Moon and Ketu in 10 house in Cancer

> 8) Mars and Mercury in 11 house in Leo (Mars in 11

> house, in exchange

> with Sun in 2 house)

>

> Dashmansa (D-10):

> 1) Lagna Gemini.

> 2) Ketu in 3rd house in Leo

> 3) Saturn in 4th house in Virgo

> 4) Venus in 6th house in Scorpio

> 5) Jupiter in 7th house in Sagitarus

> 6) Rahu in 9th house in Aquarius

> 7) Sun in 10th house in Pisces.

> 8) Moon and Mercury in 11th house in Aries

> 9) Mars in 12th house in Taurus (Mars in 12, in

> exchange with Venus

> in 6).

>

> John, can you suggest what steps this person should

> take to succeed?

>

> Thanks and with high regards.

>

> Vivek

>

> vedic astrology, John

> Rasonabe <jr_esq>

> wrote:

> > Vivek,

> >

> > For a Cancer lagna, Mars in the 6th house is not

> good

> > for career. The effects may be mitigated

> depending on

> > the location of the arudha lagna. You need to

> look at

> > the navamsha and the dasamsha to see if there's an

> > improvement in his career status. As such, you

> can

> > find out what steps the person needs to do to

> succeed.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > John R.

> >

> > --- "vivek_pratibha <vivek_pratibha>"

> > <vivek_pratibha> wrote:

> > > OM

> > >

> > > Gurujis,

> > >

> > > I am a novice to astrology. I have come across

> the

> > > horoscope of a

> > > person having CANCER LAGNA and with Mars and

> Saturn

> > > in 6th house.

> > >

> > > What will the the effect of their conjunction in

> 6th

> > > house and

> > > Sagitarious rashi? Can this person hope for

> things

> > > to change for

> > > better - 6th being Upachaya house, and Saturn in

> > > Sagitarious is not

> > > bad? Saturn dasha started 2 years ago, and since

> > > then he has been

> > > having career problems.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > With regards

> > >

> > > Vivek

> > >

> >

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January 17, 2003

Dear John,

Am I wrong in thinking that AL cannot be in 1st (sunrise) or 7th (sunset) so

we have to count 10 more signs if the AL falls in either of these houses?

Love,

Gili

you can't transcend what you haven't experienced

>John Rasonabe <jr_esq

>

>The arudha lagna is determined by counting the number

>of houses the lagna lord is away from the ascendant.

>Then, count the same number of houses from the

>location of the lagna lord. In this chart, the lagan

>lord (Moon) is located in the 7th house. Therefore,

>the arudha lagna is the same as the lagna ............."

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January 17, 2003

Gili,

I have not read this rule you're stating from any of

the texts I've studied. Perhaps, you and the rest of

the list can state the classical text or source that

describes this rule.

Regards,

John R.

--- Gili Alvey <gilimary wrote:

>

> Dear John,

> Am I wrong in thinking that AL cannot be in 1st

> (sunrise) or 7th (sunset) so

> we have to count 10 more signs if the AL falls in

> either of these houses?

> Love,

> Gili

>

> you can't transcend what you haven't experienced

>

> >John Rasonabe <jr_esq

> >

> >The arudha lagna is determined by counting the

> number

> >of houses the lagna lord is away from the

> ascendant.

> >Then, count the same number of houses from the

> >location of the lagna lord. In this chart, the

> lagan

> >lord (Moon) is located in the 7th house.

> Therefore,

> >the arudha lagna is the same as the lagna

> ............."

>

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January 17, 2003

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear John,

All the classical texts on Arudha Lagna state this. Gili is very right, unless

your calculating a different type of Lagna ;-).

Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat

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Friday, January 17, 2003 10:16 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: To All Gurujis (for Vivek)

Gili,I have not read this rule you're stating from any ofthe texts I've studied.

Perhaps, you and the rest ofthe list can state the classical text or source

thatdescribes this rule.Regards,John R.--- Gili Alvey <gilimary (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

wrote:> > > Dear John,> Am I wrong in thinking that AL cannot be in 1st>

(sunrise) or 7th (sunset) so > we have to count 10 more signs if the AL falls

in> either of these houses?> Love,> Gili> > you can't transcend what you

haven't experienced> > > > > > >John Rasonabe <jr_esq >> >> >The

arudha lagna is determined by counting the> number> >of houses the lagna lord is

away from the> ascendant.> >Then, count the same number of houses from the>

>location of the lagna lord. In this chart, the> lagan> >lord (Moon) is

located in the 7th house. > Therefore,> >the arudha lagna is the same as the

lagna> ............."> >

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January 17, 2003

Visti,

I'll check my texts tonight for my own edification.

If I'm wrong, I stand corrected. Jyotish is a vast

science which perhaps cannot be mastered in a

lifetime.

Regards,

John R.

PS

I'm tempted on repeating Charles Barkley's words

stating, "I may be wrong, but I doubt it". For my own

good, I'd better shut up.

--- Visti Larsen <vishnu wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

--

>

> Dear John,

> All the classical texts on Arudha Lagna state this.

> Gili is very right, unless your calculating a

> different type of Lagna ;-).

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

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> Friday, January 17, 2003 10:16 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: To All Gurujis

> (for Vivek)

>

> Gili,

>

> I have not read this rule you're stating from any

> of

> the texts I've studied. Perhaps, you and the rest

> of

> the list can state the classical text or source

> that

> describes this rule.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

> --- Gili Alvey <gilimary wrote:

> >

> > Dear John,

> > Am I wrong in thinking that AL cannot be in 1st

> > (sunrise) or 7th (sunset) so

> > we have to count 10 more signs if the AL falls

> in

> > either of these houses?

> > Love,

> > Gili

> >

> > you can't transcend what you haven't experienced

> >

> > >John Rasonabe <jr_esq

> > >

> > >The arudha lagna is determined by counting the

> > number

> > >of houses the lagna lord is away from the

> > ascendant.

> > >Then, count the same number of houses from the

> > >location of the lagna lord. In this chart, the

> > lagan

> > >lord (Moon) is located in the 7th house.

> > Therefore,

> > >the arudha lagna is the same as the lagna

> > ............."

> >

>

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January 17, 2003

Dear John,

Sometimes rules can seem strange until we understand what is behind the rule.

In the case of the arudhas we must remember that the ascendant or 1st house

represents truth. The 7th house from any house is the natural reflection of the

house in question. It's simple, if we put a mirror in front of any object we get

a reflection of that object. The arudha however is not a reflection, rather it's

intention is to show the Maya, or illusion, of whatever we happen to be looking

at, therefore it can not be in either the 1st or 7th house.

Hopefully once you see the 1st house as being truth you'll understand how the

illusion can not be directly opposite truth.

Take care............Phyllis

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Friday, January 17, 2003 1:16 PM