Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 font-family:Verdana">Jaya Jagannatha font-family:Verdana"> font-family:Verdana">Dear Phyllis from the following books: font-family:Verdana"> font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold">BPHS by R. Santhanam: 3.65 font-family:Verdana">Effects of sub planets: font-family:Verdana">If one of these afflicts the Sun, the native’s dynasty will decline while the Moon and the ascendant respectively associated with these will destroy the longevity associated with one of these will destroy the longevity and wisdom. So declared Lord Brahma, the lotus born. font-family:Verdana">Note: If the Sun is afflicted by one of these Upagrahas, the native’s dynasty will not spread, so to say there will be loss of all sons or lack of sons. If the ascendant is afflicted, short life will come to pass. The Moon in the grip of an Upagraha will cause mental afflictions. Though the text denotes “conjunction” of an Upagraha with the Sun, we better treat it as an “affliction” . font-family:Verdana"> font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold">BPHS by Girish Chand Sharma: 3.61-64 font-family:Verdana">Non luminous Upagraha: font-family:Verdana">(Sub planet) All these planets are known as planets devoid of splendour, they are malefics and cause affliction. font-family:Verdana">3.65: If these 5 non-luminous Upagrahas, Dhooma and others combine with the Sun and the Moon, or are situated in the ascendant, they destroy respectively the native’s dynasty, longevity and wisdom. It is this way that Lord Brahma, the lotus born has stated their position. font-family:Verdana"> font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold">Sarwartha Chintamani font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold">By B. Suryanarain Rao : 11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> Stanza 1.55 and 56 ; brief calculations. Does not endeavour in interpret. font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold">By J.N. Bhasin: 11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> 1.133-134 Only calculations are attempted. font-family:Verdana"> font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold">The Texbook of Scientific Hindu Astrology: font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold">Prof. P.S. Sastri: Cp. 28. font-family:Verdana"> font-family:Verdana">He states: Gulika and Mandi are like Shani. Yama-Kantaka, like Guru gives good results. Ardra Prahara is like Budha; Kala like Rahu. Any Bhava gets destroyed if Dhuma and others are in it. We will briefly note the results they give when posited in the lagna: font-family:Verdana"> font-family:Verdana">Dhuma – heat, fear from fire, mental worry font-family:Verdana">Vyatipata: fear from animals and death font-family:Verdana">Parivesha – accident from stone, wounds, falling font-family:Verdana">Upaketu: fall, failure in activity. font-family:Verdana">These results appear during the dasha of the planet owning the house occupied by them. font-family:Verdana"> font-family:Verdana">Dhumaketu gives different results in various houses from lagna thus: short life ugly face courage sorrow loss of children worries from foes loss of energy death through or from wicked persons opposes Dharma and righteous ways wanderer profitable wicked ways font-family:Verdana"> font-family:Verdana">Dhuma in the 7th denies marriage font-family:Verdana">Kala in the 7th yes"> brings about the death of wife yes"> (or denies marriage) font-family:Verdana">Parivesha there makes her ill-behaved font-family:Verdana">Upaketu in the 7th makes her barren font-family:Verdana">Birth with Gulika in the ascendant give a defective limb font-family:Verdana">Yamakantaka in lagna, one a cripple. font-family:Verdana"> font-family:Verdana">Sorry, I don’t have time to sear through the rest of the books. I will wait for Sarajit’s reply. font-family:Verdana"> font-family:Verdana">Best regards, font-family:Verdana"> 12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail Signature" 12.0pt;color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Swee color:blue;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">swee (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net 12.0pt;color:blue;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> 12.0pt;color:blue;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">http://www.brihaspati.net/ 12.0pt;color:blue;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> 12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> 10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> -----Original Message----- Phyl Chubb [phyllis (AT) phyllischubb (DOT) com] Friday, January 24, 2003 6:10 PM To: vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] upagrahas color:black">Dear Gauranga Das, color:black">When I said I am starting to watch the upagraha that is exactly what I meant. What I am noticing is that when they are well placed they do seem to give some support to the area they are in. Secondly when they are poorly placed they seem to be able to intensify any strain. color:black">Know for sure that this is just an observation and one that may be colored by my desire to find some use for them. I too am frustrated at the lack of information available on their influence but then isn't that what we are supposed to be figuring out for ourselves? Oh well, if you have found anything more specific, I would appreciate it if you shared that information with me. color:black">Take care......................Phyllis margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">----- Original Message ----- margin-left:39.75pt;background:#E4E4E4;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold"> Gauranga Das Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold">vedic astrology color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold">Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:26 AM margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold">Re: [vedic astrology] upagrahas margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">JAYA JAGANNATHA! margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">Dear Phyl, margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">Namaste. margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">The only mention I came across in classics is Maharishis Parashara giving the calculations for the upagrahas, plus a chapter on their effects in different houses. Besides that Phala Deepika gives a few things as well as Sarvartha Cintamani. Maybe Hora Ratnam also but I'm not sure of that as the book is very voluminuous. Anyway, may I enquire what are your findings in this regard? margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">Yours, margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">----- Original Message ----- margin-left:43.5pt;background:#E4E4E4;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold"> Phyl Chubb Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold">vedic astrology color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold">Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:01 PM margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold">Subject: [vedic astrology] upagrahas margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> color:black">Dear Sanjay and Swee, margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> color:black">Swee, thank you for asking this question as I too have been searching without much luck for more information about the upagrahas. I have noticed some interesting patterns but hesitate to think they are carved in stone. windowtext"> margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> color:black">Any further advice or reading will be gratefully received. margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> color:black">Blessings..................Phyllis margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> "Courier New";color:black"> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of Service. mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> "Courier New";color:black"> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of Service. mso-color-alt:windowtext"> windowtext"> "Courier New";color:black"> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of Service. mso-color-alt:windowtext"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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