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That was an awesome and inspiring email, in that it in fact set forth the

essential reminder of the nonduality among the various chakras -- and clarified

the primacy of the rashi chart.

This in no way diminishes the vargas, but should likely humble any of us who

have fixed views on these matters. (Sri K.S. Krishnamurti also did little with

the varga charts [publicly anyway], and yet his work takes on an even finer

level of subtlety and profundity when addressed through the lens of the

divisional charts. One jyotishi who will make this refreshingly clear is Sat

Siri Khalsa.)

Many thanks again.

Sincerely,

J.I. Abbot

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In a message dated 3/5/2003 8:52:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com writes:

Hi Sabri,

This is somewhat akin to the difference between how an old-time GP and a

modern-day MD examines his patients. Each arrives at a diagnosis using quite

different paths. One shines a torch into your entrails to conclude whether

or not anything inside is amiss, while the other doesn't concludes without

tests he thinks are accurate and mandatory.

I've seen quite a few astrologers too, who don't care for anything other

than D-1 and D-9 and yet make pretty accurate predictions. Otoh, there are

quite a few who don't ignore divisional charts; again predicting with

impressive accuracy. You marvel at the "intuition" of one and the

fastidiousness of the other.

Basically, the mood of D-1 is reflected in finer divisions in the various

D-charts, depending on what facet you investigate a particular D-chart for.

That said, I must tell you that it's rumored that even B V Raman, who for

most of us is an icon, opined that the place for divisional charts is on the

shelf. For most of us lesser mortals, the D-charts are indispensable. Take

your pick.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

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Dear List Members, very best wishes to all,

 

On a very superficial basis, the Sani retrograde and Mangal

opposition being past, what are your opinions on the course of things

in the Middle East/Iraq? (please excuse me if this topic has already

been discussed).

 

Also, I read some very good discussion on Divisional Charts. But what

has attracted my attention is that all the Jyotish Pundits without

exception that I have consulted have used the lagna and navamsha

charts only, what is the catch here?

 

Thank you so much for any replies,

 

Sabri.

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"Sabri" <korua

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Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:33 PM

[vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and divisional

charts,

 

 

[snip]

 

> Also, I read some very good discussion on Divisional Charts. But what

> has attracted my attention is that all the Jyotish Pundits without

> exception that I have consulted have used the lagna and navamsha

> charts only, what is the catch here?

 

 

Hi Sabri,

 

This is somewhat akin to the difference between how an old-time GP and a

modern-day MD examines his patients. Each arrives at a diagnosis using quite

different paths. One shines a torch into your entrails to conclude whether

or not anything inside is amiss, while the other doesn't concludes without

tests he thinks are accurate and mandatory.

 

I've seen quite a few astrologers too, who don't care for anything other

than D-1 and D-9 and yet make pretty accurate predictions. Otoh, there are

quite a few who don't ignore divisional charts; again predicting with

impressive accuracy. You marvel at the "intuition" of one and the

fastidiousness of the other.

 

Basically, the mood of D-1 is reflected in finer divisions in the various

D-charts, depending on what facet you investigate a particular D-chart for.

That said, I must tell you that it's rumored that even B V Raman, who for

most of us is an icon, opined that the place for divisional charts is on the

shelf. For most of us lesser mortals, the D-charts are indispensable. Take

your pick.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli

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Dear Ramapriya,

I was interested in your analogy. I have worked in the medical profession

since 1964 and during this time the number of diagnostic tools has increased

tremendously. At the same time the 'instinctive' diagnostic abilities of

medical practicioners have decreased by the same proportion.

Love,

Gili

 

 

 

you can't transcend what you haven't experienced

 

 

 

 

 

>"Ramapriya D" <hubli

>vedic astrology

><vedic astrology>

>Re: [vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and

>divisional charts,

>Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:18:20 +0530

>

>-

>"Sabri" <korua

><vedic astrology>

>Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:33 PM

>[vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and divisional

>charts,

>

>

>[snip]

>

> > Also, I read some very good discussion on Divisional Charts. But what

> > has attracted my attention is that all the Jyotish Pundits without

> > exception that I have consulted have used the lagna and navamsha

> > charts only, what is the catch here?

>

>

>Hi Sabri,

>

>This is somewhat akin to the difference between how an old-time GP and a

>modern-day MD examines his patients. Each arrives at a diagnosis using

>quite

>different paths. One shines a torch into your entrails to conclude whether

>or not anything inside is amiss, while the other doesn't concludes without

>tests he thinks are accurate and mandatory.

>

>I've seen quite a few astrologers too, who don't care for anything other

>than D-1 and D-9 and yet make pretty accurate predictions. Otoh, there are

>quite a few who don't ignore divisional charts; again predicting with

>impressive accuracy. You marvel at the "intuition" of one and the

>fastidiousness of the other.

>

>Basically, the mood of D-1 is reflected in finer divisions in the various

>D-charts, depending on what facet you investigate a particular D-chart for.

>That said, I must tell you that it's rumored that even B V Raman, who for

>most of us is an icon, opined that the place for divisional charts is on

>the

>shelf. For most of us lesser mortals, the D-charts are indispensable. Take

>your pick.

>

>Warm regards,

>

>Ramapriya

>hubli

>

>

 

 

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"Gili Alvey" <gilimary

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Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:17 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and

divisional charts,

 

 

> Dear Ramapriya,

> I was interested in your analogy. I have worked in the medical profession

> since 1964 and during this time the number of diagnostic tools has

increased

> tremendously. At the same time the 'instinctive' diagnostic abilities of

> medical practicioners have decreased by the same proportion.

> Love,

> Gili

 

Gili, the instinctive diagnostic abilities of GPs has decreased by almost

the same proportion as the general increase in longevity of humans. Do you

spot the relation between the two that I see? :o)

 

Ramapriya

hubli

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Dear Sabri,

I think now that Sat-Mars opposition has ended,things on war front which were in

a state of suspended animation would again start moving ahead.War might be

triggerd around 2nd week of april when Saturn Mars oppose each other in Gemini

and Saggitarius.

About your second query, Navamsha is attritubeted strength almost equal to

lagna. Other divisional charts have fraction of that strength. Divisional

charts aid in deciding the strength of the planets (Shatvarga bala). Thus a

fair degree of accuracy can be obtained on going through these charts and any

confusion due to excess of data avoided, specially if Maha-Antar dasha and

Gochar position of planets are factored in.This is why many learned astrologers

tend to consult these charts only.

Chandrashekhar.

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Sabri

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:33 PM

[vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and divisional charts,

Dear List Members, very best wishes to all,On a very superficial basis, the Sani

retrograde and Mangal opposition being past, what are your opinions on the

course of things in the Middle East/Iraq? (please excuse me if this topic has

already been discussed).Also, I read some very good discussion on Divisional

Charts. But what has attracted my attention is that all the Jyotish Pundits

without exception that I have consulted have used the lagna and navamsha charts

only, what is the catch here?Thank you so much for any replies,Sabri.Archives:

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Dear Gili,

I agree that more the diagnostic tools available, more the practioner of

predictive sciences tends to loose his analytical capacity. But this is the age

of quick results and one tends to depend more on diagnostic tools than trust

one's analytical capabilities.

Chandrashekhar.

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Gili Alvey

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:17 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and divisional charts,

Dear Ramapriya,I was interested in your analogy. I have worked in the medical

profession since 1964 and during this time the number of diagnostic tools has

increased tremendously. At the same time the 'instinctive' diagnostic

abilities of medical practicioners have decreased by the same

proportion.Love,Giliyou can't transcend what you haven't experienced>

"Ramapriya D" <hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com>>vedic astrology>To:

<vedic astrology>>Re: [vedic astrology] War situation

in the middle east and >divisional charts,>Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:18:20

+0530>>->"Sabri" <korua (AT) efes (DOT) net.tr>>To:

<vedic astrology>>Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:33

PM>[vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and

divisional>charts,>>>[snip]>> > Also, I read some very good discussion on

Divisional Charts. But what> > has attracted my attention is that all the

Jyotish Pundits without> > exception that I have consulted have used the lagna

and navamsha> > charts only, what is the catch here?>>>Hi Sabri,>>This is

somewhat akin to the difference between how an old-time GP and a>modern-day MD

examines his patients. Each arrives at a diagnosis using >quite>different

paths. One shines a torch into your entrails to conclude whether>or not

anything inside is amiss, while the other doesn't concludes without>tests he

thinks are accurate and mandatory.>>I've seen quite a few astrologers too, who

don't care for anything other>than D-1 and D-9 and yet make pretty accurate

predictions. Otoh, there are>quite a few who don't ignore divisional charts;

again predicting with>impressive accuracy. You marvel at the "intuition" of one

and the>fastidiousness of the other.>>Basically, the mood of D-1 is reflected in

finer divisions in the various>D-charts, depending on what facet you investigate

a particular D-chart for.>That said, I must tell you that it's rumored that even

B V Raman, who for>most of us is an icon, opined that the place for divisional

charts is on >the>shelf. For most of us lesser mortals, the D-charts are

indispensable. Take>your pick.>>Warm

regards,>>Ramapriya>hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com>>_______________MSN

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