Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 That was an awesome and inspiring email, in that it in fact set forth the essential reminder of the nonduality among the various chakras -- and clarified the primacy of the rashi chart. This in no way diminishes the vargas, but should likely humble any of us who have fixed views on these matters. (Sri K.S. Krishnamurti also did little with the varga charts [publicly anyway], and yet his work takes on an even finer level of subtlety and profundity when addressed through the lens of the divisional charts. One jyotishi who will make this refreshingly clear is Sat Siri Khalsa.) Many thanks again. Sincerely, J.I. Abbot (student) In a message dated 3/5/2003 8:52:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com writes: Hi Sabri, This is somewhat akin to the difference between how an old-time GP and a modern-day MD examines his patients. Each arrives at a diagnosis using quite different paths. One shines a torch into your entrails to conclude whether or not anything inside is amiss, while the other doesn't concludes without tests he thinks are accurate and mandatory. I've seen quite a few astrologers too, who don't care for anything other than D-1 and D-9 and yet make pretty accurate predictions. Otoh, there are quite a few who don't ignore divisional charts; again predicting with impressive accuracy. You marvel at the "intuition" of one and the fastidiousness of the other. Basically, the mood of D-1 is reflected in finer divisions in the various D-charts, depending on what facet you investigate a particular D-chart for. That said, I must tell you that it's rumored that even B V Raman, who for most of us is an icon, opined that the place for divisional charts is on the shelf. For most of us lesser mortals, the D-charts are indispensable. Take your pick. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Dear List Members, very best wishes to all, On a very superficial basis, the Sani retrograde and Mangal opposition being past, what are your opinions on the course of things in the Middle East/Iraq? (please excuse me if this topic has already been discussed). Also, I read some very good discussion on Divisional Charts. But what has attracted my attention is that all the Jyotish Pundits without exception that I have consulted have used the lagna and navamsha charts only, what is the catch here? Thank you so much for any replies, Sabri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 - "Sabri" <korua <vedic astrology> Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:33 PM [vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and divisional charts, [snip] > Also, I read some very good discussion on Divisional Charts. But what > has attracted my attention is that all the Jyotish Pundits without > exception that I have consulted have used the lagna and navamsha > charts only, what is the catch here? Hi Sabri, This is somewhat akin to the difference between how an old-time GP and a modern-day MD examines his patients. Each arrives at a diagnosis using quite different paths. One shines a torch into your entrails to conclude whether or not anything inside is amiss, while the other doesn't concludes without tests he thinks are accurate and mandatory. I've seen quite a few astrologers too, who don't care for anything other than D-1 and D-9 and yet make pretty accurate predictions. Otoh, there are quite a few who don't ignore divisional charts; again predicting with impressive accuracy. You marvel at the "intuition" of one and the fastidiousness of the other. Basically, the mood of D-1 is reflected in finer divisions in the various D-charts, depending on what facet you investigate a particular D-chart for. That said, I must tell you that it's rumored that even B V Raman, who for most of us is an icon, opined that the place for divisional charts is on the shelf. For most of us lesser mortals, the D-charts are indispensable. Take your pick. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Dear Ramapriya, I was interested in your analogy. I have worked in the medical profession since 1964 and during this time the number of diagnostic tools has increased tremendously. At the same time the 'instinctive' diagnostic abilities of medical practicioners have decreased by the same proportion. Love, Gili you can't transcend what you haven't experienced >"Ramapriya D" <hubli >vedic astrology ><vedic astrology> >Re: [vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and >divisional charts, >Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:18:20 +0530 > >- >"Sabri" <korua ><vedic astrology> >Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:33 PM >[vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and divisional >charts, > > >[snip] > > > Also, I read some very good discussion on Divisional Charts. But what > > has attracted my attention is that all the Jyotish Pundits without > > exception that I have consulted have used the lagna and navamsha > > charts only, what is the catch here? > > >Hi Sabri, > >This is somewhat akin to the difference between how an old-time GP and a >modern-day MD examines his patients. Each arrives at a diagnosis using >quite >different paths. One shines a torch into your entrails to conclude whether >or not anything inside is amiss, while the other doesn't concludes without >tests he thinks are accurate and mandatory. > >I've seen quite a few astrologers too, who don't care for anything other >than D-1 and D-9 and yet make pretty accurate predictions. Otoh, there are >quite a few who don't ignore divisional charts; again predicting with >impressive accuracy. You marvel at the "intuition" of one and the >fastidiousness of the other. > >Basically, the mood of D-1 is reflected in finer divisions in the various >D-charts, depending on what facet you investigate a particular D-chart for. >That said, I must tell you that it's rumored that even B V Raman, who for >most of us is an icon, opined that the place for divisional charts is on >the >shelf. For most of us lesser mortals, the D-charts are indispensable. Take >your pick. > >Warm regards, > >Ramapriya >hubli > > _______________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 - "Gili Alvey" <gilimary <vedic astrology> Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:17 PM Re: [vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and divisional charts, > Dear Ramapriya, > I was interested in your analogy. I have worked in the medical profession > since 1964 and during this time the number of diagnostic tools has increased > tremendously. At the same time the 'instinctive' diagnostic abilities of > medical practicioners have decreased by the same proportion. > Love, > Gili Gili, the instinctive diagnostic abilities of GPs has decreased by almost the same proportion as the general increase in longevity of humans. Do you spot the relation between the two that I see? ) Ramapriya hubli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Dear Sabri, I think now that Sat-Mars opposition has ended,things on war front which were in a state of suspended animation would again start moving ahead.War might be triggerd around 2nd week of april when Saturn Mars oppose each other in Gemini and Saggitarius. About your second query, Navamsha is attritubeted strength almost equal to lagna. Other divisional charts have fraction of that strength. Divisional charts aid in deciding the strength of the planets (Shatvarga bala). Thus a fair degree of accuracy can be obtained on going through these charts and any confusion due to excess of data avoided, specially if Maha-Antar dasha and Gochar position of planets are factored in.This is why many learned astrologers tend to consult these charts only. Chandrashekhar. - Sabri vedic astrology Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:33 PM [vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and divisional charts, Dear List Members, very best wishes to all,On a very superficial basis, the Sani retrograde and Mangal opposition being past, what are your opinions on the course of things in the Middle East/Iraq? (please excuse me if this topic has already been discussed).Also, I read some very good discussion on Divisional Charts. But what has attracted my attention is that all the Jyotish Pundits without exception that I have consulted have used the lagna and navamsha charts only, what is the catch here?Thank you so much for any replies,Sabri.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Dear Gili, I agree that more the diagnostic tools available, more the practioner of predictive sciences tends to loose his analytical capacity. But this is the age of quick results and one tends to depend more on diagnostic tools than trust one's analytical capabilities. Chandrashekhar. - Gili Alvey vedic astrology Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:17 PM Re: [vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and divisional charts, Dear Ramapriya,I was interested in your analogy. I have worked in the medical profession since 1964 and during this time the number of diagnostic tools has increased tremendously. At the same time the 'instinctive' diagnostic abilities of medical practicioners have decreased by the same proportion.Love,Giliyou can't transcend what you haven't experienced> "Ramapriya D" <hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com>>vedic astrology>To: <vedic astrology>>Re: [vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and >divisional charts,>Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:18:20 +0530>>->"Sabri" <korua (AT) efes (DOT) net.tr>>To: <vedic astrology>>Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:33 PM>[vedic astrology] War situation in the middle east and divisional>charts,>>>[snip]>> > Also, I read some very good discussion on Divisional Charts. But what> > has attracted my attention is that all the Jyotish Pundits without> > exception that I have consulted have used the lagna and navamsha> > charts only, what is the catch here?>>>Hi Sabri,>>This is somewhat akin to the difference between how an old-time GP and a>modern-day MD examines his patients. Each arrives at a diagnosis using >quite>different paths. One shines a torch into your entrails to conclude whether>or not anything inside is amiss, while the other doesn't concludes without>tests he thinks are accurate and mandatory.>>I've seen quite a few astrologers too, who don't care for anything other>than D-1 and D-9 and yet make pretty accurate predictions. Otoh, there are>quite a few who don't ignore divisional charts; again predicting with>impressive accuracy. You marvel at the "intuition" of one and the>fastidiousness of the other.>>Basically, the mood of D-1 is reflected in finer divisions in the various>D-charts, depending on what facet you investigate a particular D-chart for.>That said, I must tell you that it's rumored that even B V Raman, who for>most of us is an icon, opined that the place for divisional charts is on >the>shelf. For most of us lesser mortals, the D-charts are indispensable. Take>your pick.>>Warm regards,>>Ramapriya>hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com>>_______________MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virusArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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